Thanks for posting this! SWGOH is such a speed heavy game that its always fascinating to see characters that maybe benefit from something else besides just +32 speed all the time.
I’d nominate Morgan Elsbeth as an honorable mention for CA arrow, with the caveat being that it should have at least 15-20 secondary speed. Her best mod setup has shifted a bit towards wanting a speed set with the obnoxious GM cron phased out. Ideally you really want her to be fastest on the team now. Fortunately she has a high enough base speed that, assuming you have half-decent mods, it’s not terribly difficult to get her to 330-ish speed even with a CA arrow. Having tested a bunch of different set ups with her, this is the one I feel is best (speed/tenacity set, prot primaries on circle/cross/triangle, CA arrow). Secondary stat priority - speed>prot>tenacity/health/defense
Personally I like fast wampa, because its fun to have her ramp up faster, and she can get daze on the enemy team before they do anything. I also have a fast qui-gon because 32 speed becomes 960 offense, which is almost always more than what an offense primary would give, and you can still get good offense secondaries. I'm not sure why Malgus wouldn't want health over crit avoidance if his main thing is stacking his health up very high and dealing damage based off of it like grievous. Other non-speed characters I can think of are JKLS (offense, especially if lead), JMLS (protection), Dark trooper (offense), Starkiller (health for the star destroyer or offense because he assists so much like sith trooper), Droideka (Offense, damage immunity for longer and deals more damage if slower, also speed is doubled if no damage immunity anyway), Cere junda (Protection is buffed by unique, wants to go second anyway), Gar and ISC (Tenacity or survivability, for more counterattacks), Savage (Defense or offense, gains loads of bonus TM anyway), and Kelleran (Protection, for damage, unelss under someone else's lead)
I'll throw in %-Defense on most "blob tanks" that don't do much aside from tanking some hits. Guys like Sith Empire Trooper for example that you'll have at hit relics anyways. Improving their Defense at higher relics through an arrow is rarely a bad choice.
Bando: Speed, if you really want to make your Bokatan squad fast, she is the damage dealer anyways GL Leia: Helath Arrow with lots of speed secondary. My Leia has 180k health AND 550 Speed
Not criting the Sith Empire team could end up being counterproductive because of Fear. And since the big jump from Malgus is based on max health, health arrow makes also quite some sense. Funny enough, I have a crit avoud arrow on Daka but I‘ll admit, I haven’t touched her mods for ages though.
Maybe I missed it but I went all health on Bane as well. AdRad is one of put protection on but maybe that’s controversial? I see so many opponents in GAC making him super fast.
Worth mentioning Rey too (unless I missed it), I feel like she wants offense or health over speed. Definitely a lot of characters that will take an offense arrow, I have them on gar + isc under maul and fulcrum with cere plus the ones you mentioned. How do you feel about health on Nihilus? I feel like there’s an argument that he just want to survive for the instakill, but maybe also low health to make triggering traya omi is more worth it
Follow up question: Is it correct that all/most of these characters still want as much speed as possible? It's just that they can sacrifice some of the arrow speed right? Its a super short list of characters that WANT to be slow right?
Would someone recommend i use a accuracy stat on a speed arrow for fitth brother? It is golden blue with 16 speed i still haven’t started calibration but asking if should i even use it
Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker loves offense as well as protection. Either or, but I’ve got proc arrow for him since he literally wants to be slower(especially without JMLS)..
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Thanks for posting this! SWGOH is such a speed heavy game that its always fascinating to see characters that maybe benefit from something else besides just +32 speed all the time.
I went thru all my characters that were on this list as it was playing in the background. Thanks super helpful!
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I’d nominate Morgan Elsbeth as an honorable mention for CA arrow, with the caveat being that it should have at least 15-20 secondary speed.
Her best mod setup has shifted a bit towards wanting a speed set with the obnoxious GM cron phased out. Ideally you really want her to be fastest on the team now.
Fortunately she has a high enough base speed that, assuming you have half-decent mods, it’s not terribly difficult to get her to 330-ish speed even with a CA arrow.
Having tested a bunch of different set ups with her, this is the one I feel is best (speed/tenacity set, prot primaries on circle/cross/triangle, CA arrow).
Secondary stat priority - speed>prot>tenacity/health/defense
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Awesome topic. always unsure on who is worth sacrificing about like 15 speed for more of another stat. this vid is perfect for that :D
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Personally I like fast wampa, because its fun to have her ramp up faster, and she can get daze on the enemy team before they do anything. I also have a fast qui-gon because 32 speed becomes 960 offense, which is almost always more than what an offense primary would give, and you can still get good offense secondaries. I'm not sure why Malgus wouldn't want health over crit avoidance if his main thing is stacking his health up very high and dealing damage based off of it like grievous.
Other non-speed characters I can think of are JKLS (offense, especially if lead), JMLS (protection), Dark trooper (offense), Starkiller (health for the star destroyer or offense because he assists so much like sith trooper), Droideka (Offense, damage immunity for longer and deals more damage if slower, also speed is doubled if no damage immunity anyway), Cere junda (Protection is buffed by unique, wants to go second anyway), Gar and ISC (Tenacity or survivability, for more counterattacks), Savage (Defense or offense, gains loads of bonus TM anyway), and Kelleran (Protection, for damage, unelss under someone else's lead)
Thank you so much!! The only character I thought DIDN'T want a speed arrow was Droideka. Guess I'm wrong!
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I'll throw in %-Defense on most "blob tanks" that don't do much aside from tanking some hits. Guys like Sith Empire Trooper for example that you'll have at hit relics anyways. Improving their Defense at higher relics through an arrow is rarely a bad choice.
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this video is super useful, thanks!!
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Your list of characters who wanted defense primary arrows got cut off. 😂😂😂
Nice vid.
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This is a great resource. Time to make some changes!
Bando: Speed, if you really want to make your Bokatan squad fast, she is the damage dealer anyways
GL Leia: Helath Arrow with lots of speed secondary. My Leia has 180k health AND 550 Speed
I do like health Leia
BT, gmy, and others but solid list man
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Not criting the Sith Empire team could end up being counterproductive because of Fear. And since the big jump from Malgus is based on max health, health arrow makes also quite some sense.
Funny enough, I have a crit avoud arrow on Daka but I‘ll admit, I haven’t touched her mods for ages though.
The only SE member that wants to be actively crit is Malak.
I guess dark trooper like Fennec cares only about offence?
And what zombie troopers and crit avoidance?
Dark is same as fennec yes.
I would not bother with CA on zombie bros, Enoch gives them 200%
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Maybe I missed it but I went all health on Bane as well.
AdRad is one of put protection on but maybe that’s controversial? I see so many opponents in GAC making him super fast.
Adrad is super weird. I actually run offense, protection is probably fine as long as you have an offense secondary
Worth mentioning Rey too (unless I missed it), I feel like she wants offense or health over speed. Definitely a lot of characters that will take an offense arrow, I have them on gar + isc under maul and fulcrum with cere plus the ones you mentioned. How do you feel about health on Nihilus? I feel like there’s an argument that he just want to survive for the instakill, but maybe also low health to make triggering traya omi is more worth it
Absolutely about Rey, Gar/ISC and ufus.
I'm not picky about DN. He stacks so much health from his unique.
Thank you! Been helping a buddy with mods and this is perfect for both of us!!!
Follow up question: Is it correct that all/most of these characters still want as much speed as possible? It's just that they can sacrifice some of the arrow speed right?
Its a super short list of characters that WANT to be slow right?
You're correct. Speed doesn't actively hurt most characters
What about Bo-Katan Mandalor with an Offense arrow?
Wampa arrow question - - would a defense arrow with defense primary be better than speed arrow too?
I'm not huge on defense primaries in general
@@CalvinAwesome Given a choice, however...would you say the defense primary is more valuable in this situation than speed?
I would yeah
Offense qui gon give more boost than full speed qui gon? Cause the omi is giving extra offense bases on their speed
I wonder the same
Hello grandmaster calvin
Would someone recommend i use a accuracy stat on a speed arrow for fitth brother? It is golden blue with 16 speed i still haven’t started calibration but asking if should i even use it
Curious if you would give Ezra Exile a health or protection arrow instead of speed?
I like speed for him, he falls into the category of "if it's a 25+ speed secondary"
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Doesn't BKM want offense arrow as well cuz true dmg
Yes
Shore Trooper?
Sure!
Dark Trooper?
Absolutely
@@CalvinAwesome What do you think about offense arrow on Han Solo?
I like him faster, it's probably fine if 20+ speed
@@CalvinAwesome great! Thanks for the response
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It's hard to say with GAS. Some want him as fast as possible so he gets up ASAP, but on the flip side is go full Protection.
His speed does not determine when he gets up. It's the turns everyone takes
Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker loves offense as well as protection. Either or, but I’ve got proc arrow for him since he literally wants to be slower(especially without JMLS)..
Forgot to add Fives loves Protection as well. I’ve got about 120k+ proc on my Fives at R8(it’ll be over 150k, I think, at R9) and he’s been LOVING it.