she did give him up at one point but ethan kept running behind her like her was her shadow he loves her and she loves him. he just stay with gwen out of obligation and because he kinda loves her but nt the way he love theresa.
Whitney how dare you tell theresa Gwen is Jane mother she could say I'm more of mother to my kids then what you are to miles Whitney abandoned him to be a nun he didn't care about him until he learned he wasn't from incest she was ashamed of him when she thought he wasn't normel
I wish they didn't bring Gwen back the way they did. It would have been better if they gave Gwen a new love interest at this point. They could have still had some Theresa/Gwen drama and Rebecca could have still tried to make Theresa miserable but they should have shown Gwen happily move on properly.
Gwen should have been Jane’s mother. They should have had her come back with Jonathan to co-parent with Ethan and found love with someone else. They really ruined a good chance to give Gwen her own life
@@MarilynBarragánNovelo one movie where she played two characters , the one character wanted to kill the family orineted one , forgot the name so sorry
When it comes to passions it is very simple Ethan has loved Gwen since boarding school their whole lufw was planned out for them, but I believe that he loves Theresa more. If you go back and watch the earlier episodes you can see that Teresa schemed to get Ethan but he fell for her because she was fun and he never had that before. She brought something out of him that he never knew he had.
i always felt sorry for Gwen when it came to her losing her children(even tho Jane is not her daughter). That is the only time. But then she came back and acted like a complete psycho, willing to sacrifice her own son to get Ethan.
@4spitfire True, She isn't an Oscar Actress or whatever, but she does a well job at playing Theresa. People love Theresa's character not only because of her beauty, but because of her spirit and will. No matter how many times she lost Ethan or Ethan chose Gwen, She still came after him. Yes, I believe she was foolish for sticking with him, but she's the type of person who doesn't give up in her hopes or dreams, and she's not evil like Gwen. That's why people love her.
A lot of this mess went back to when Rebecca found Ivy’s letter to Sam on the laptop and sent it to Daily Private Lives and framed Theresa for it so Ivy would lose the Crane name, money and social power and Rebecca could marry Julian and Ivy would legally be Ivy Winthrop again.
While people may feel sorry for Gwen, most of what happened to her was of her or Rebecca’s own doing. She was constantly insecure in her marriage and probably knew she was no match for Teresa. They should have had Teresa and Beth take Gwen out and had the truth about Ethan exposed sooner. They could have made Ivy, Julian, Eve, or Alister kill Rebecca off. That would have gotten rid of Liza and Andrea (who was never on contract to begin with).
Who was never on the contract because last time I checked Gwen and Teresa started at the same time and why would they killed off Rebecca ass hole she's a favorite of mine
Whitney telling Theresa"You don't want a broken marriage on your conscience, do you?" Did she forget how Theresa did everything she could to get him during the show
@4spitfire I feel sorry for Gwen. I honestly do, but Gwen should have let him go, and She shouldn't have been completely evil just to hold on Ethan. I would want to yank Theresa's hair out if She stole the man that I loved also, but I would have sense enough to let him go. No self respecting women would stay with a man she knows constanly cheats on her and loves another woman. Theresa hanged on to Ethan because she knew Ethan loved her also.
You can take the horse to the water but you can’t force him to drink it, no one force Ethan to be with Theresa.... Ethan could have convert to Muslim and marry both women since he can’t make up his damn mind
Jane really does look more like Gwen in this scene. Her hair even looks similar. Gwen like someone else said should have adopted with Ethan. If they haven’t kept taking Thersa’s children they might have had a small chance of being happy. As long as you know Gwen’s secret wasn’t exposed. Lol.
@go2magic hey thats yr opinion, its very logical indeed and totally counts...but for me they are definately on the same level....and that very logical and counts too...
I love that Gwen leaves him. I wish they brought her back happy with someone else. And she got to watch as Ethan got his head turned by someone else so Theresa was in Gwen’s shoes. That is the kind of guy Ethan is. He was raised by Cranes, and he treats women just like faceless Alister does. Ethan gaslit Gwen telling her he didn’t want to be with Theresa, then would tell Theresa he still loved her and wanted her giving her hope.
@Hartleyfan1 i have never seen her mom is nor do i care to watch ...what i do know is that liza did a great job with the crap that psn writers were throwing at her so that they could pliz T fans..... WTF?
This is true. I hate Gwen, always have... but Liza is probably the best actress in the whole cast. She just played the part of the rampant bitch so very well! :p
A lot of this situation went back to Ivy and her scheme to deceive Julian and Alistair by using her child with Sam as a revenge heir for Harrison, Alistair and Julian had done to her by using her as a business asset to connect the Winthrop and Crane families.
Yes, Gwen had common sense and realized a long time ago that Ethan loves Theresa and she would just be making a fool of herself if she tried to cling on to him, but her mother kept goading her and pushing her to hang on to Ethan. Gwen would have left a long time ago if it hadn't been for Rebecca.
@@carmensavu5122 yes, you can take the horse to the water but you can’t force him to drink it.... Rebecca might be the influencer but Gwen didn’t have to accept it. Gwen wanted revenge too, all because Ethan chose Theresa.Gwen and her mother are evil and both gold diggers
@neveah45 Liza is way talented than lindsay hands down....sorry to her fans (truth hurts) but the only scenes she can do a wimpy cry scenes and thats no fun.....liza wipes the whole floor.....
Gwen could have adopted if she wanted a baby badly. She just wanted Theresa's kids. She liked seeing Theresa miserable.
No she didn’t want her kid
she did give him up at one point but ethan kept running behind her like her was her shadow he loves her and she loves him. he just stay with gwen out of obligation and because he kinda loves her but nt the way he love theresa.
Ethan want Theresa back when she started to date Jared.
Gwen is the real Psycho. Jane is not your child.
Agreed very delusional!
I never understood why Theresa and Gwen wanted Ethan, he's such an idiot. They should have both kicked him to the curb and moved on.
@dandelions24 exactly 💯
And then later she risks Juanita murdering Jane 😂
I think Gwen is in denial about Jane.She really believes she's the mother not Theresa.
Sana Ansari Gwen wasdelusional to think Jane was hers
@@calliemikesell7565 you wrong Gwen not your baby's Theresa, she is the mother
@sana Ansari Theresa loved him too late the marriage overs have Ethan
@sana Ansari, you wrong Theresa Good mothers jane daughter, not Gwen
Whitney how dare you tell theresa Gwen is Jane mother she could say I'm more of mother to my kids then what you are to miles Whitney abandoned him to be a nun he didn't care about him until he learned he wasn't from incest she was ashamed of him when she thought he wasn't normel
Theresa should have slap Whitney
I wish they didn't bring Gwen back the way they did. It would have been better if they gave Gwen a new love interest at this point. They could have still had some Theresa/Gwen drama and Rebecca could have still tried to make Theresa miserable but they should have shown Gwen happily move on properly.
Gwen should have been Jane’s mother. They should have had her come back with Jonathan to co-parent with Ethan and found love with someone else. They really ruined a good chance to give Gwen her own life
@@stephb03 you wrong
seeing Lindsay in a Lifetime movie, she was amazing ! Proving she's not just a soap opera actress
What movie was she in?
@@MarilynBarragánNovelo one movie where she played two characters , the one character wanted to kill the family orineted one , forgot the name so sorry
When it comes to passions it is very simple Ethan has loved Gwen since boarding school their whole lufw was planned out for them, but I believe that he loves Theresa more. If you go back and watch the earlier episodes you can see that Teresa schemed to get Ethan but he fell for her because she was fun and he never had that before. She brought something out of him that he never knew he had.
i always felt sorry for Gwen when it came to her losing her children(even tho Jane is not her daughter). That is the only time. But then she came back and acted like a complete psycho, willing to sacrifice her own son to get Ethan.
I feel no sympathy for gwen who would've had her own daughter had she kept her ass in the hospital in LA . Nobody told her to leave the hospital
I thought at this point in the story, Gwen was actually showing self respect by leaving Ethan and that toxic marriage behind.
I don't know why would Whitney said to Theresa
@4spitfire True, She isn't an Oscar Actress or whatever, but she does a well job at playing Theresa. People love Theresa's character not only because of her beauty, but because of her spirit and will. No matter how many times she lost Ethan or Ethan chose Gwen, She still came after him. Yes, I believe she was foolish for sticking with him, but she's the type of person who doesn't give up in her hopes or dreams, and she's not evil like Gwen. That's why people love her.
Theresa was really stunning in season 1 and 2 now her beauty has faded she is so washed up
for the love of god why didnt things stay this way!!
True that amen
Took the words right out of our mouths
Jane has blond hair, the cranes have blond hair but she could have darker hair when she is an adult. There's is Jane's mother.
That’s game of thrones logic??? It’s flawed. Yes Theresa can pass on a recessive blind gene to Jane or it was ethans genes!
How the hell.can Whitney say Jane is Gwen child
What friend told you let the father of your daughter leave town and probably won't see your daughter until she is grown woman.🤔🙄😱
A lot of this mess went back to when Rebecca found Ivy’s letter to Sam on the laptop and sent it to Daily Private Lives and framed Theresa for it so Ivy would lose the Crane name, money and social power and Rebecca could marry Julian and Ivy would legally be Ivy Winthrop again.
While people may feel sorry for Gwen, most of what happened to her was of her or Rebecca’s own doing. She was constantly insecure in her marriage and probably knew she was no match for Teresa. They should have had Teresa and Beth take Gwen out and had the truth about Ethan exposed sooner. They could have made Ivy, Julian, Eve, or Alister kill Rebecca off. That would have gotten rid of Liza and Andrea (who was never on contract to begin with).
Who was never on the contract because last time I checked Gwen and Teresa started at the same time and why would they killed off Rebecca ass hole she's a favorite of mine
I never felt sorry for Gwen even once
Ethan show her the 🚪
The best passions scene is when Ethan calls Gwen a Bitch! That pretty much sums up Gwen and Rebecca!
Yes, lol
This is the gwen i like
Whitney telling Theresa"You don't want a broken marriage on your conscience, do you?" Did she forget how Theresa did everything she could to get him during the show
@4spitfire I feel sorry for Gwen. I honestly do, but Gwen should have let him go, and She shouldn't have been completely evil just to hold on Ethan. I would want to yank Theresa's hair out if She stole the man that I loved also, but I would have sense enough to let him go. No self respecting women would stay with a man she knows constanly cheats on her and loves another woman. Theresa hanged on to Ethan because she knew Ethan loved her also.
Theresa is a spoiled and home wreker brat
You can take the horse to the water but you can’t force him to drink it, no one force Ethan to be with Theresa.... Ethan could have convert to Muslim and marry both women since he can’t make up his damn mind
@@northsouth6739 I think both of them need to leave Ethan alone because he a player
Jane really does look more like Gwen in this scene. Her hair even looks similar. Gwen like someone else said should have adopted with Ethan. If they haven’t kept taking Thersa’s children they might have had a small chance of being happy. As long as you know Gwen’s secret wasn’t exposed. Lol.
Jane isn't missing out by Gwen leaving she has her mother
Jane was Teresa's too
@go2magic hey thats yr opinion, its very logical indeed and totally counts...but for me they are definately on the same level....and that very logical and counts too...
Gwen only “left” Ethan here because the actress was pregnant 🤰 & leaving 4 maternity leave
that’s why she comes back with Jonathan a few months later
I loved Gwen she didnt take no mess
Now go be with your one true love , Theresa
Theresa, but she loves you Ethan please
Jane looks more like Gwen's daughter than Theresa's🤔🤔🤔
Because Ethan was born a natural blonde and girls usually look like their Father. I wish they made Little Ethan look more like Theresa.
I love that Gwen leaves him. I wish they brought her back happy with someone else. And she got to watch as Ethan got his head turned by someone else so Theresa was in Gwen’s shoes. That is the kind of guy Ethan is. He was raised by Cranes, and he treats women just like faceless Alister does. Ethan gaslit Gwen telling her he didn’t want to be with Theresa, then would tell Theresa he still loved her and wanted her giving her hope.
@Hartleyfan1 i have never seen her mom is nor do i care to watch ...what i do know is that liza did a great job with the crap that psn writers were throwing at her so that they could pliz T fans..... WTF?
This is true. I hate Gwen, always have... but Liza is probably the best actress in the whole cast.
She just played the part of the rampant bitch so very well! :p
Gwen deserves better than that
A lot of this situation went back to Ivy and her scheme to deceive Julian and Alistair by using her child with Sam as a revenge heir for Harrison, Alistair and Julian had done to her by using her as a business asset to connect the Winthrop and Crane families.
Yes, Gwen had common sense and realized a long time ago that Ethan loves Theresa and she would just be making a fool of herself if she tried to cling on to him, but her mother kept goading her and pushing her to hang on to Ethan. Gwen would have left a long time ago if it hadn't been for Rebecca.
@@carmensavu5122 yes, you can take the horse to the water but you can’t force him to drink it.... Rebecca might be the influencer but Gwen didn’t have to accept it. Gwen wanted revenge too, all because Ethan chose Theresa.Gwen and her mother are evil and both gold diggers
@adalia21 he wasnt born yet
@neveah45 Liza is way talented than lindsay hands down....sorry to her fans (truth hurts) but the only scenes she can do a wimpy cry scenes and thats no fun.....liza wipes the whole floor.....
4spitfire to each is their own. That's your opinion.
Liza overacts just like her mother. Susan lucci. Lindsey is not the best actress herself. Soap actors usually aren’t
I always think Susan Lucci was a boring actress, my opinion though
What going on
I still think Jane is Gwens
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