@Darain Baig I mean you say that, but the core message of persona 4 was literally "accept the real you*" *so long as the real you does not deviate from societal expectations in the slightest. I enjoy the persona games but hooooly shit their theming and messaging can be a disaster sometimes
This dialogue is a mod. It doesn’t actually happen. I’d figure more people should’ve noticed this is modded gameplay, seeing that Yusuke is in Kamoshida’s palace, here.
It’s a tragedy that we went from one of the best written gay romances in persona 2, which came out in 1999, to not even having Ryuji, Akechi or best boy Yusuke as options
@@ArtistHunter62 I mean, I could see several problems about Maruki being a datable character, the most obvious being that he was hired to help students that had been abused by Kamoshida, several of which had been sexually abused So yes...
@@player1angel567 nothing you say is wrong, but you can date your teacher, your doctor or an alcoholic journalist. So like it wouldn't be inconsistent to be able to date maruki
@@harlequinking5281the persona 2 innocent sin mc is a guy and he can romance his friend and it's taken seriously, the demons comment on your relationship lol and you get a different contact option
Okay so the fascinating thing about this is that since I got this game on the Switch, I've been recording the negotiations I do to help my sibling out with the P5R guidebook they're making (long story). And the thing is, according to the tutorial, shadows prefer different kinds of answers depending on their personality. There's four kinds of answers - serious, jokey, vague and kind. Gloomy shadows like vague, dislike serious or jokey, and are neutral to kind answers. Liked is the music notes, disliked is the anger symbols, and neutral is the sweat drops. So according to this, "I like men" is a KIND answer, which I find fascinating, because that could mean a ton of different things for Joker's personality. The real question though is if "I like older women" is serious or jokey, I guess...
I think the “I like men” comment is ‘kind’ as a way of letting the shadow down easy. Like, “I’m not interested in girl talk, but it’s not because of you, it’s me.”
In SMT games, you're supposed to tell the demons what you believe they want to hear. Many of the options are outright lies (at least from the main character's perspective). In SMT5 for example, you have the option of saying "I'm actually a girl" in one negotiation, even though it's established that the main character is male.
@@bluedragon2049 He makes a joke about "taking you out" in the confidant. He probably meant as in beating you, but he could have also meant a date though arguably you were already on one when he says that. 🤔
Seems to check out for the most part. Yusuke seems too preoccupied with art to care about dating anyone. I love Ryuji but let's be real, he's your bro and is probably the straightest of all the Phantom Thieves given the way he talks about girls. And Akechi... Okay he might actually like you but "died" before he could really figure that out.
@@Angie-ji7be tbh makes sense. Ryuji and Yusuke have respect for Joker, but don't really show any romantic interest in him. I'd say out of the guys, Mishima and Akechi would be pretty much the only ones who would likely show any romantic interest. Tho Mishima is more of a Phantom Thieves simp than anything. Akechi tho... Out of everyone, he would be the likely option, and frankly the only guy that Joker has shown to actually have interest in, given what happened in Royal.
Tatsuya and Jun might as well be the canon relationship, Lisa is very Rise annoying and Maya is literally 5 years older than him and someone they call 'big sis', plus she knew Tatsuya when he was like 7 and she was 12
In shidos palace obereon has this dialogue for negotiation and he basically says "you could use someone who relates to you that must be rough" or something along those lines
Totally! Even if I don’t end up picking that route, I’d still like to have the option. Plus having more romance options in general makes the game more replay-able.
I love that this is a thing. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did this, but I actually have a script in my head (that I may eventually put onto paper) of how Ranks 9 and 10 of Ryuji and Yusuke's confidants would play out if you had the option to romance them.
@@donglegs Persona 6 development Team has not even been formed yet according to the Japanese sources. It's very likely that next line of games from Persona franchise would be about spin-offs and etc. I dunno why you would be so confident on saying that P6 would take whole different approach when the development team for P6 has not been even formed properly yet.
@@Literally100 “More likely than not” isn’t something someone with a huge amount of confidence that something is going to happen would say. But it’s not who the team is; it’s the guy who is now gone, seeing what Royal was like without him, the new decade, the popularity of certain ships even in Japan, the decent chance of a female protagonist etc. But since when has Atlus said the team hasn’t been chosen? Recently? This would mean we’ll get the game in about 2030, which virtually everyone would be shocked to hear.
@@cornblaster7003 May I suggest Zagreus from Hades if you are not aware of him? (It sounds like you love bi male characters and Hades is an absolute haven for finding attractive characters.)
There is a I believe cut scene when I guess originally you could romance ryuji and get a valentines date with him Iv not watched it myself but if you use menu mod, you can watch the scene by manually inputing the id code into the event section of the mod. The id is 750 009
They allow you to say this making it canon with one single choice that Joker CAN be gay yet don’t let you and haven’t let you romance a man since persona 2
Also isn’t that the dungeon area of Kamoshida’s Palace…but Yusuke is present…does that mean my idea for a mod that allows any Phantom Thief in any palace is a thing?
Players: We wanna date male character. ATLUS: Nope. You should accept MC like he is without choosing what you prefer. Players: ..yeah, that makes sense though... ATLUS: We also added that phrase) Players: WHATTAFU-?!
I will be shocked if romancing male confidants does not become a thing in the mods. Yes, I am even including the old men in that statement. The only one I’m not including is the child at the arcade
I remember this option!! It makes me so mad cause it gave me hope for romancing yusuke or akechi!! I rlly hope ATLUS make another p5 spin-off but include yoshizawa and akechi!! AND LET US DATE HIM!! Like to me it felt wrong to romance any of the girls cause akechi and joker were just so gay!! Felt like I would have been cheating on him!! 😭
For real! Same happened to me. It felt so wrong to date even one of the girls cause I felt that Joker clearly had feeling for Akechi and they kept going on dates
@@nosoynadaoriginal I've played p5r twice now and am at the begging of strikers and I'm still unable to date a single one of the female characters, I always feel like I'm betraying him 😭😭!! The game works way better as a Goro dating sim, like the hole story is evolved round akechi and joker, their posits, rivals, chosen by god!! And Akechi's social link in no way helps this lol, they go on dayes to the aquarium, arcade AND a cafe!! What is ATLUS trying to hide?? They should just smooch!!
Persona 5, the game where you can have a relationship with many girls at the same time but not with your therapist. Age is not an argument because your teacher and the reporter are available.
unfortunately even though they are willing to reference homosexuality, due to atlas and large portions of japan at larges massive homophobia the most we can get for lgbtq representation is cute little lines like this and in yusukes confidant.
Imagine playing game that won’t let you be gay but let you say you love men. Bruh it’s crazy that I play harvest moon and marry as many men I want on switch. 😂
@@Jmcelwain17 if joker is supposed to be the player, aka the person we control, give a name, make decisions for, etc then hes what the person controlling him is
@@nezoprime4276 joker is not a self insert character. He has his own personality and behavior consistency regardless of what the player chooses/says. His motivations are all the same regardless as the endings are decided by your performance not your actual ingame choices. What YOU are referring too is a self insert character like general shepard. Joker is NOT Shepard lmfao.
Honestly any ship with Akechi is completely disfunctional. He's a psychopath who killed dozens, some of them relatives to the Phantom Thieves, and a romantic relationship is probably the last thing he has an interest in. Though he's pretty hot, as a bi guy.
Original as in the PS4 version? Then yes, I don't get why people making this such a big deal just because they want to romance the males. P5 on PS3 and PS4 I don't remember since Demon negotiation lines are very vast. I never have a line repeat in this game
The amount of people that actually get excited for this is rather sad, or ironic since these hold ups are nothing more than trying to figure out what Shadows want to hear and then lying.
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Hey, could you do the audios for not so hot Betsy? I really like them but I haven’t been able to find them online
I have not finished persona 5 royal cause I’m stuck at Okumura’s place 😢
Hope you found a way through the palace
Ann: Do you like short girls or tall girls?
Joker: M E N
Okay but tall or short men?
@@paigelux4819 both
Lol
@@paigelux4819 lmao
@@paigelux4819 Men
Joker really took the phrase "be gay, do crime" and ran with it
Robbie Daymond's iconic catchphrase
Nah he stole the phrase
@@novafoxydash9871 I see what you did there hehe
Literally
he stole the phrase
Joker really said "Girls!? I want to see men!"
Wish. I could romance my bros. 😭
@@Noodlepunk If they can bring back the Yosuke romance mod, them they can create a mod that we can romance the dudes
@@Noodlepunk I wanna romance gun yakuza man.
"she's cute...but my type is men." -Joker
@@Noodlepunk Akechi could relate 😏
Okay but imagine you have romanced Ann at this point and you come out saying you like men and she has no reaction.
Ann: *YOU WHAT*
Imagine if you could date guys
And you dated everyone in the entire game at once
The amount of confusion valentine's day would have would be unmatched
@@miigi-p4939 Iwai would probably be the weirdest one. Or the Tower kid. Or Sojiro.
@@HollowGolem I don't like the direction where this is going
@Chris Check Let’s just stick to men who are Joker’s age
Yet they don't let you romance Ryuji
truly the persona devs were absolute COWARDS for not allowing you to romance Ryuji
@@burnin8able why do they?
@Darain Baig I mean you say that, but the core message of persona 4 was literally "accept the real you*"
*so long as the real you does not deviate from societal expectations in the slightest.
I enjoy the persona games but hooooly shit their theming and messaging can be a disaster sometimes
This dialogue is a mod. It doesn’t actually happen. I’d figure more people should’ve noticed this is modded gameplay, seeing that Yusuke is in Kamoshida’s palace, here.
@@edman9953 that absolutely isn't modded. I've gotten the same dialogue before.
I saw this in base game too lol
The shadow just said "that's cool man"
BASED SHADOW
The shadow didn't want to get canceled for attacking Joker so he dipped as quickly as possible lol
Least based Mokoi moment
wish my parents were the same
@@fancimaski oof that sucks but don't worry man I accept you for who you are
i'd have expected Mokoi to be homophobic about that answer but he was actually really supportive tbh like ggs Mokoi you are so based
Your profile picture is also based.
Demons probably don’t care about things like gender. Especially the gods. They will notoriously have sex with literally anythibg
Yea, mokoi doesn't like him because of that and leaves. Based
@@ArividerchiMagmuasue because you give people you don't like a gift, sure man
@@Feasco you give them something to leave you alone, yes. Like homeless people. Thanks for agreeing bud
There is something so funny to me about the serious cut in of Joker’s face with that answer option.
N pfp based
It’s a tragedy that we went from one of the best written gay romances in persona 2, which came out in 1999, to not even having Ryuji, Akechi or best boy Yusuke as options
What about daddy maruki?
@@ArtistHunter62 I mean, I could see several problems about Maruki being a datable character, the most obvious being that he was hired to help students that had been abused by Kamoshida, several of which had been sexually abused
So yes...
@@player1angel567 doesn't mean he's not the best waifu
@@player1angel567 nothing you say is wrong, but you can date your teacher, your doctor or an alcoholic journalist. So like it wouldn't be inconsistent to be able to date maruki
I don't want to sound like a SJW but man it's lame that the only gay characters in the game are these super predatory stereotypical fruity gay guys.
When a shadow is more supportive than people in reality…
but shadow's dialogue was create by people in reality ^^
@@daisuke0chida that’s true!
He's no shadow, he lives in the sea of the human heart.
A shadow is the true self maybe this is the true self of an ally
@@randomperson5289shadows are the part people deny about themselves, the parts they wish weren't there. So it'd be someone suffering in the closet
I am always outta the wardrobe for Akechi.
Hoo boy
Hoo Boy
Hoo boy
Hoo Boy
Hoo boy
THEY LET YOU SAY THAT BUT I STILL CAN’T DATE RYUJI WHAT THE FUCK.
Joker said himself you must lie to demons to get them on your side. Meaning he is straight.
Or Akechi or Yusuke 😭😭😭
@@yettispaghetti6784 ew ew ewwww
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Yeah, I know some people aren't a fan of Akechi and Joker, and thinking about it more it is a pretty toxic ship.
@@Jmcelwain17 i mean,,,, i dont think that implies ALL of what he says are lies doe, bruggggh
if persona 6 doesnt let us romance men im kiIIing myself
Same
Persona 2 lets you romance men, but that would be great too, I would love a nee fleshed out game where its possible
@@corazonisBut is the mc a guy or girl?
@@harlequinking5281the persona 2 innocent sin mc is a guy and he can romance his friend and it's taken seriously, the demons comment on your relationship lol and you get a different contact option
you’re not alone me too
My man said
"...Really? Well this was made for you"
*Hands over a skill called snap*
big relate. Yusuke is a top tier guy. I'd let him paint me white.
don't even know what you're saying yusuke is clearly a bottom
@@Pigmedog Plot twist, we're talking about actual paint.
I was just reading them than I saw that and Yelled out "NOPE IM GONNA SOUND GAY!"
@@leslieadams2580 it doesn't matter if it's for yusuke
that is a MINOR
A demon is more understanding that he is talking with a minor, yet Takemi and the teacher and reporter tho...
dont forget chihaya smh theyre all creeps
And the police officers who beat the shit out of him
At least it's not P3P FeMC with Ken (a 10 year old)
@@Fancy2209Real at least phem is also a minor
@@javxion6576 16 years old could be considered Young Adult to some. It definitely isn't fine
Okay so the fascinating thing about this is that since I got this game on the Switch, I've been recording the negotiations I do to help my sibling out with the P5R guidebook they're making (long story). And the thing is, according to the tutorial, shadows prefer different kinds of answers depending on their personality. There's four kinds of answers - serious, jokey, vague and kind. Gloomy shadows like vague, dislike serious or jokey, and are neutral to kind answers. Liked is the music notes, disliked is the anger symbols, and neutral is the sweat drops. So according to this, "I like men" is a KIND answer, which I find fascinating, because that could mean a ton of different things for Joker's personality. The real question though is if "I like older women" is serious or jokey, I guess...
I think the “I like men” comment is ‘kind’ as a way of letting the shadow down easy. Like, “I’m not interested in girl talk, but it’s not because of you, it’s me.”
I like older women just means Joker is Kenji from Persona 3
Considering who you CAN date in this game it could be pretty likely serious
P5R guidebook? Tell me more
@@Wizardcat0901 Wish I could; they haven't published it yet. I'll try to remember to tell you when they do.
This confirms joker is bi, he just cant pull dudes
Negotiating with personas you can tell lies
This is a mod
He's bi, but has no drip
Someone didn't read the tutorial. You lie to get them on your side buddy. This confirms joker is straight lmfao
@@Jmcelwain17 straight as a fuckin elbow noodle i bet
Ann: “ugh, I bet you’re seeing some other girls!” 😤
Joker: “girls?”😏
ATLUS painstakingly trying to make Joker gay without making him gay:😳
In SMT games, you're supposed to tell the demons what you believe they want to hear. Many of the options are outright lies (at least from the main character's perspective). In SMT5 for example, you have the option of saying "I'm actually a girl" in one negotiation, even though it's established that the main character is male.
As the other comment says; you tell the shadow what they wanna hear even if it’s not from a standpoint from the MC. Anything from the mask I guess
@@leos8813 I know, I have beaten 4 SMT games, another on the way
@@sleep5329 crazy he's gay though
ATLUS already made Joker gay.
😙🎶
Akira: *COUGHS* "Yusuke to be more precise."
I second this
I third this
Yusuke, in the background: wait wha-
Woooooh
Great taste. Yusuke is peak Husbando material
Ren: I like men.
*Akechi has entered the chat*
It's so obvious akechi likes joker
Too bad the game went let us choose him for a date or will it?
*Igor has entered the chat*
@@bluedragon2049 He makes a joke about "taking you out" in the confidant. He probably meant as in beating you, but he could have also meant a date though arguably you were already on one when he says that. 🤔
Ryuji has entered the chat
"Im alone right now"
I love that the Shadow is perfectly fine with it
That's a demon
@@ygr6484 😐
@@ShadeShake this is a SMT game, that's a demon not a shadow
@@ygr6484 It's called Shadow in the game.
considering he reacted to it the way that would result in fleeing with different social links, "fine" is probably the wrong word.
theres actually a lore reason why it doesn't let you romance men despite this, it's because men don't like you back
Seems to check out for the most part. Yusuke seems too preoccupied with art to care about dating anyone. I love Ryuji but let's be real, he's your bro and is probably the straightest of all the Phantom Thieves given the way he talks about girls. And Akechi... Okay he might actually like you but "died" before he could really figure that out.
@@Angie-ji7be tbh makes sense. Ryuji and Yusuke have respect for Joker, but don't really show any romantic interest in him. I'd say out of the guys, Mishima and Akechi would be pretty much the only ones who would likely show any romantic interest. Tho Mishima is more of a Phantom Thieves simp than anything.
Akechi tho... Out of everyone, he would be the likely option, and frankly the only guy that Joker has shown to actually have interest in, given what happened in Royal.
Angelamon pfp ???
When you're a bi dude but can't pull men 😭
Tatsuya and Jun weren’t literally the canon romance in innocent sin for Atlus to then fall downstairs constantly for the next 20+ years
Tatsuya and Jun might as well be the canon relationship, Lisa is very Rise annoying and Maya is literally 5 years older than him and someone they call 'big sis', plus she knew Tatsuya when he was like 7 and she was 12
"You like tall girls, or short girls?
men."
In shidos palace obereon has this dialogue for negotiation and he basically says "you could use someone who relates to you that must be rough" or something along those lines
I love makoto, but I would loved to have joker and akechi dating
Same. It was so obvious to me that they are into each other
Totally! Even if I don’t end up picking that route, I’d still like to have the option. Plus having more romance options in general makes the game more replay-able.
I like men.
Gives you a Snap Skill Card.
I know we all wish we could romance Ryuji, Yusuke, and Akechi, but I think we’re forgetting Joker’s TRUE love interest…
*Igor*
obvs
World's most cursed ship
Arsen
@@Max_the_he Knowing joker he would probably try to hit on Johanna
He meets Igor for like 5 minutes on Christmas
I love that this is a thing. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did this, but I actually have a script in my head (that I may eventually put onto paper) of how Ranks 9 and 10 of Ryuji and Yusuke's confidants would play out if you had the option to romance them.
Well, go ahead, put it on paper 👺 we’re all waiting
@@Acubbatea All right, I'll get on that and post the link here when I'm done.
just leaving my comment here for the link 👀
I wish we at least had a FMC option in p5 royal
We waiting 👀 (And while you're at it, you should also write a romance option for Akechi 🥞)
Mokoi: Let's talk about girls
Joker: *I LIKE MEN*
Mokoi: I think i'm in trouble goodbye
Didn’t they have an option for older or younger in the original? Here it says “No preference instead”. Geez, glad they changed that.
This just bring us one step closer to a bisexual canonical romance for the persona 6 game, I am thinking positive this time.
I hope not gross
@@mihaimercenarul7467 With the new director it’s more likely than not, so suck it up
@@donglegs Whose the new director?
@@donglegs Persona 6 development Team has not even been formed yet according to the Japanese sources. It's very likely that next line of games from Persona franchise would be about spin-offs and etc. I dunno why you would be so confident on saying that P6 would take whole different approach when the development team for P6 has not been even formed properly yet.
@@Literally100 “More likely than not” isn’t something someone with a huge amount of confidence that something is going to happen would say. But it’s not who the team is; it’s the guy who is now gone, seeing what Royal was like without him, the new decade, the popularity of certain ships even in Japan, the decent chance of a female protagonist etc. But since when has Atlus said the team hasn’t been chosen? Recently? This would mean we’ll get the game in about 2030, which virtually everyone would be shocked to hear.
Would've been cool if the team had some responses to your answers :)
"My type is men" Drives off on a motorcycle.
I wish a bisexual Joker was canon. Bisexual and pansexual amab person (like myself) do not get enough representation
Bi Joker will always be canon to me
hell yeah, there's very few good bi male characters out there rn
@@cornblaster7003 May I suggest Zagreus from Hades if you are not aware of him?
(It sounds like you love bi male characters and Hades is an absolute haven for finding attractive characters.)
@@ShadowSans666 Yeah I've played that, zag is a great character, love him lol
@@cornblaster7003 I started playing around late August. I love him too along with Thanatos. Hope you've been having a blast playing like I have.
i imagine him saying it in the exact same cadence as schlatt
So we have the choice to say a shadow tha we like man but we can't date any of the male Social Links... Seems legit.
atlus being atlus
It's a joke
That's fine, I prefer my Joker gay-free anyway
@@Athio14 Bad take
@@Athio14 yes me too.
We can say we like men, but we can't date Yusuke, or Goro, or even Mishima. I see how it is, Atlus! You want the gays to be sad and alone! /j
You forgot Ryuji
And maruki
And Igor.
@@nagiinreallife ?????
@@Myst1c_V1bz I will not elaborate.
Mokoi is an ally confirmed
I-Is that yusuke in kamoshida's palace!?!?
modded probably
Ye, probly a mod
"Move.... I'M GAY!!" - Goro Akechi
Akechi could relate 😏
There is a I believe cut scene when I guess originally you could romance ryuji and get a valentines date with him
Iv not watched it myself but if you use menu mod, you can watch the scene by manually inputing the id code into the event section of the mod. The id is 750 009
LET ME LOVE YOU RYUJI!!!!
Joker: "I like men!"
Mokoi: "Oh? Well you're still a minor, so.."
They allow you to say this making it canon with one single choice that Joker CAN be gay yet don’t let you and haven’t let you romance a man since persona 2
Also isn’t that the dungeon area of Kamoshida’s Palace…but Yusuke is present…does that mean my idea for a mod that allows any Phantom Thief in any palace is a thing?
yep. p5 modders did put akechi and kasumi in yaldabaoth's battle
@@todd3143 That’s a Win
@@lucastheaegisdriver8331 harry type c is one of the modders/mod featurer you should check out
@@todd3143 Oh I know that guy on UA-cam he’s a chad
@@todd3143 That’s better than having her playable in one dungeon only. Might as well mod the game to have her playable from the start.
"It was all an act to get an item guys i swear"
(looks at Akechi)
Run.
That guy be like: He *GAE* , I *LEAVE*
I wonder if this conversation is telepatic or something, cause that response would have gerenerated a reacting from the party.
Joker: I like men.
All the girls he dating including his teacher, a fortune teller, and a doctor: 👁️👄👁️💢
I mean hopefully they understand that bi is a thing lol, one can like both
Joker: liking men but unable to date them
Ryoji: “First time?”
Joker really did last surprise on them
The day after New Year's when human form Morgana wakes up curled around you had me feeling some kind of way. So I get it Joker
i did this every time i saw this shadow and laughed my ass off at its reaction every time
Players: We wanna date male character.
ATLUS: Nope. You should accept MC like he is without choosing what you prefer.
Players: ..yeah, that makes sense though...
ATLUS: We also added that phrase)
Players: WHATTAFU-?!
I will be shocked if romancing male confidants does not become a thing in the mods. Yes, I am even including the old men in that statement. The only one I’m not including is the child at the arcade
I've heard some people actually ship Ren and Yoshida!
@@kamatari1220 yuck, I loved the big brother dynamic they had going on!
I want Iwai to give me his special gun
I would die for the option to date Dr. Maruki, could be so bittersweet with the ending
I remember this option!! It makes me so mad cause it gave me hope for romancing yusuke or akechi!! I rlly hope ATLUS make another p5 spin-off but include yoshizawa and akechi!! AND LET US DATE HIM!! Like to me it felt wrong to romance any of the girls cause akechi and joker were just so gay!! Felt like I would have been cheating on him!! 😭
For real! Same happened to me. It felt so wrong to date even one of the girls cause I felt that Joker clearly had feeling for Akechi and they kept going on dates
@@nosoynadaoriginal I've played p5r twice now and am at the begging of strikers and I'm still unable to date a single one of the female characters, I always feel like I'm betraying him 😭😭!!
The game works way better as a Goro dating sim, like the hole story is evolved round akechi and joker, their posits, rivals, chosen by god!! And Akechi's social link in no way helps this lol, they go on dayes to the aquarium, arcade AND a cafe!! What is ATLUS trying to hide?? They should just smooch!!
@@abimorris1970 you are so real for this😂
FRRR! I don’t romance any girls in P4G bc then I would be cheating on my bb Yosuke
@@LegendThaInkling-qb4tp what's even worse about P4G is that Yosuke was supposed to be romancble 😭😭
Me and joker have so much in common! We both like men, starting to think I'm actually joker you guys!
Looking cool Joker
Persona 5, the game where you can have a relationship with many girls at the same time but not with your therapist. Age is not an argument because your teacher and the reporter are available.
Can't be gay in this game, but you can date adult women, who would lose their job dating a minor.
Mokoi really was like "Oh. I, uh, I see. Take this item and forget I said anything..."
unfortunately even though they are willing to reference homosexuality, due to atlas and large portions of japan at larges massive homophobia the most we can get for lgbtq representation is cute little lines like this and in yusukes confidant.
So this is were the I like men meme came from
Ann: do you like tall girls, or short Girls?
Joker: ....men
By men he means Yusuke
I don't know why we can't date men too, it would be cool and unique, and the valentine scene would be hilarious
Mokoi just says "oh snap" and bounces
I said that and got a persona from it. My first words were "I just made my headcanon Joker gay"
Imagine playing game that won’t let you be gay but let you say you love men. Bruh it’s crazy that I play harvest moon and marry as many men I want on switch. 😂
Mokoi gave Joker the Snap skill card, its like Mokoi is saying "Snap out of it" inderectly
Mokoi really just said "Let's hope it's just a phase then"
Man i really want this game so bad
sAMe
its free on gamepass, but full price everywhere else
@@mrmemes5191 I know
I haven't played 5 yet and from what I can tell its like Persona 2 where you can talk to the demons/personas
I guess that means Joker doesn't play Duke Nukem 3D.
Mokoi really went "oh Snap" and left xD
Atlus let joker express his love for men!? That's something
You are supposed to tell lies to get them on your side. Joker is straight buddy.
@@Jmcelwain17 ever heard of headcanon
@@Jmcelwain17 if joker is supposed to be the player, aka the person we control, give a name, make decisions for, etc then hes what the person controlling him is
@@nezoprime4276 joker is not a self insert character. He has his own personality and behavior consistency regardless of what the player chooses/says. His motivations are all the same regardless as the endings are decided by your performance not your actual ingame choices.
What YOU are referring too is a self insert character like general shepard. Joker is NOT Shepard lmfao.
@@Skyeleafe ever heard of actual canon?
I totally expected Ryuji to go
"You're gay? For real?"
if only akira could romance ryuji... we can only dream
Mokoi said: "HERE FILTHY GAY! DONT GO CLOSE TO ME" LMAO
*Hooh! it seems like me and joker do have something in common!*
Hoo boy
Hoo boy
Hoo boy
Hoo boy
Hoo boy
And the monster gave him a "snap"!
Can you imagine if Joker romanced Aketchi?! On a series note though, i only have eyes for Makoto, i'd study with her any day of the week
@Lucas The Phantom Thief she just has a certain charm to her
Dude try to murder him... no. Ryuji would be nice to romance.
@Ayaan so that's why you can romance your teacher I see
Honestly any ship with Akechi is completely disfunctional. He's a psychopath who killed dozens, some of them relatives to the Phantom Thieves, and a romantic relationship is probably the last thing he has an interest in. Though he's pretty hot, as a bi guy.
@@Whisper71 i'm not attracted to men usually but i got to admit yeah he's fine :)
The Phantom Thief girls about to pull a Shiho
Why is the mokoi surprised? Joker is literally wearing heeled boots
HELP
Would be cool if they let you romance the guys, too.. Would totally try to date Yukuke, if hes into dating at all...
every day I mourn that I can’t romance yusuke
Yusuke out here sweatn'
AKECHI ROMANCE ROUTE WHEN
Bro was like okaaay and then left lol
Does this happen in the original version? Not like it would make any difference, it's just a curiosity.
Nope it doesn't
Original as in the PS4 version? Then yes, I don't get why people making this such a big deal just because they want to romance the males. P5 on PS3 and PS4 I don't remember since Demon negotiation lines are very vast. I never have a line repeat in this game
Shin Megami Tensei 5 have demons asking if Nahobino is a top or bottom.
The amount of people that actually get excited for this is rather sad, or ironic since these hold ups are nothing more than trying to figure out what Shadows want to hear and then lying.
I know everyone I stream it to is gonna look at me like I planned this… and I am
There is no reason why Joker shouldn’t be romanced with the other guys.
i made a tiktok video about this a few weeks ago lmao i was so shocked when i saw that option