Same.. we’re required to repeat any days we missed (if it’s more than 2 days) in any rotation or our competencies won’t be signed off. Even if we were deathly ill 😢
@@nondescript4311 Can't go on without a cardiothoracics rotation? It's super niche, I can't imagine that more than 1% of medical students would actually benefit from it.
I know a team of two older (over 65) cardiothoracic surgeons who have so much fun that they make it look easy. "That aortic aneurysm surgery was so much fun, so textbook. We spent time debating whether or not to replace the mitral valve but decided that it would be best long-term for this patient. Such an enjoyable surgery!" As a nurse, I just stood there in awe, with my mouth open. Hours and hours on their feet. They enjoyed every minute of it. Who are these superhuman people? And fresh as a daisy afterward.
CTS-“What’s that page?” N-“Your pt in room X has had 400mL leakage from their chest tubes in the last 45 minutes since their arrival to the CVICU.” CTS-“ !#^€>>£$&@@@&&@@@&!!! “
I'm 15 years younger at least and I'm ready to retire 😂. They must be in good shape. The Interventional Cardiologists I know are all runners and compete in marathons. I guess that's how they can work for such long hours. Not as intricate work as CTS but still! My back is wrecked after 20 yrs of bedside nursing.
Spent ten days in ICU after an accident. Imagine understanding what those multiple Code Greys meant and being tethered to machines; including a Fentanyl epidural
I'm a cardiology nurse and I loved it. I have the personality that's fits in with these doctors once they realize that I'm not afraid of them and then when they discover that I'm pre-med and want to be in that field(truth) I fit in. I love cardiology.
@@sorban5352 CVICU is a very stressful place. very High acuity, complex patients, and very demanding CT surgeons. You need to have all kids of special training (echmo, CRRT, open heart, vents, the list goes on) and I remember I used to dread rounds because our surgeon would lose his mind over the tiniest detail. I don't miss it
I worked with a yelling dr for a long time, until one time I told him to stop and listen to what I was saying because I had a solution to his problem. Never yelled at me after that, but the rest of the staff were shocked I raised my voice to the god!
Ironically, I did a rotation in cardiothoracic surgery and he was the kindest surgeon I ever worked with. He was intense in his every day life though (I think he climbed Mt Everest or something??) 😂
Lucky you! Though a word on Everest: unless he's actually an experienced extreme mountaineer, who's climbed other 8-thousands, "climbing Mt Everest" means nothing nowadays. It's medium-sporty ppl mass-transported, pulled and carried by a dozen Sherpas to the top in a literal line with hundreds of others. All you need is $50-100k. Unless your CT surgeon could've actually climbed it himself with just a Sherpa as guide, Mt Everest isn't impressive anymore: it's just super-luxury event tourism. And an ecological desaster.
@@Alex-vq9vj yes, climbing everest is for rich, white, attention seekers who contribute to the pollution and eventual destruction of land and the exploitation of natives.
Bill is smart, palliative care doctors are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Seriously they will ask you how you are doing and will be genuinely invested.
Haha yea Canada's really showing us this. 🤦♀️ Gotta especially love them going to the media bragging about murdering 400 PLUS people and it being their most rewarding and fulfilling job yet. Yeea such wonderful people. 🤦♀️
The fact that med student could speak at all in presence of hospital "God" and leave showed that he really has a iron core. Well done doctor. I had this rotation and everyone was scared to death of the H.G. I went in and introduced myself shook his hand and and he was looking at me with daggers for eyes, I pulled his head down so I could whisper in his ear, "if you're mean to US I'll tell baba. Which is Chinese for dad. We all had a great rotation and learned a lot. It wasn't until our last day that someone asked me what I had said and why I was never scared of him. When I told them he was my oldest brother and what I said to protect us all they were shocked and asked H.G. if it was true, he said yes and that from now on if any of us ever saw him at the bar across the street they'd better buy him drinks. 😅🤣😂 I felt bad for the next group in his rotation because they had him with all that pent up frustration. 😅🤣😂
Man, I remember witnessing a heated argument between my boss (chief of neurosurgery) and the chief of thoracic surgery. I swear, I thought the hospital would explode that day.
I'm having flashbacks to the Grey's Anatomy episode wherein Cristina has a breakdown and winds up sitting in dermatology just marveling at how nice and calm everything is compared to cardiothoracics 😂
One of my first RN jobs was working the CT surgery floor in a teaching hospital. The attendings would ask the most impossible to answer questions to the residents and students, then yell at them when they didn't know the answer. We, as nurses, had already heard them ask the same questions over and over to different groups, so we knew the answers. After they would dress down the residents for not being able to come up with anything, the attendings would look over at a nurse and ask them for the answer, which we of course had already heard a dozen times. You can imagine the ass-chewing they would get after that. Felt sorry for them.
That sounds like the mentality that propagates though the military. You have young Marines treated like shit when they first get to the fleet, then when it's their turn to be in charge they just act the way they were treated.
I had a really good rotation in cardiothoracic surgery- I told them I was going into psychiatry- and I didn’t want to miss the opportunity to see them do amazing surgeries on hearts and lungs. *Everyone* responds well to authentic praise and validation- even grumpy CT surgeons. No one expected me to know anything and I kept sharing my reactions during the rotation when it seemed appropriate to share them. I wasn’t blowing smoke up any orafices- watching the work literally inspired awe. I got full marks and saw incredible stuff. Would never in a million years pick it as a specialty though…😅
Just goes to show being nice and respectful goes a long way. I’m sure a lot of these “horror stories” of CT start with big egos…on the part of the MED STUDENT and not the surgeon.
Meanwhile I say I’m going into psychiatry and they laugh at me like I’m a joke and a waste of their time to continue talking to. Great set of anecdotes we got here :(
I think there should be a difference between being firm and confident and just straight out abusing your position. Unfortunately some people were perhaps being bullied themselves growing up and are now the bullies just bc they can be.
@@bryandelcid4065 having been bullied almost every day for about seven years, I know that being a victim (of anything) does not excuse one of perpetrating the same behavior. There may be explanations, but there is absolutely no excuse to behave like that, especially as an adult with full decision-making skills. Furthermore, I now hold several positions of power (for instance, I'm the President of a major academic, interest, and outreach-based club at my college, which has afforded me many special privileges, connections and contacts, and responsibilities), each of which *could* be abused to put people down, but which I use to raise people up, empower them, and provide the best experience possible to as many people as possible. I know not everyone is like this, but former victims (especially ones with power) should use their memories of their victimization to fuel a desire to ensure that others don't have the same experiences. IMO, anyone who perpetrates malicious actions against someone because "well, [someone else] did it to me..." is immature, using a child's coping mechanism and being unkind. Also, some people are just mean-natured and don't necessarily have even an trauma-based explanation.
Today is the day I raise my objections! Maybe it’s because I work in South Africa, the country where Dr Christiaan Barnard performed the first heart transplant, but I love our cardio thoracic surgical teams. They really do work as teams because the outcomes are truly determined by the involvement and commitment of every member of the team. The relationships within those teams endure longer than most marriages. But not for the faint hearted - pardon the pun
This rotation in Med school was so intense it was later disbanded. Was so demeaning it was the only time in my entire career I took an opportunity to ditch. I’ve held that against myself the rest of my life. Now I’m an ophthalmologist lol
I wasn't smart enough to nope myself out of the room. Ended up being the best 2 weeks of my med school career. I saw, learned and did things that were beyond my wildest dreams as a med student.
If this field is as unpopular as it's made out to be, congrats! I hope you gain fulfillment in your career, but I also hope you respect yourself and make demands of your heartless employers that make life for others in your specialty somewhat more livable. Both your choice to stick to a difficult career and the choice to advocate to yourself will save lives in the long run. I wish you all the luck in the world navigating that path
I'm in blood bank and these guys are the only surgical team that seem to know what to order and how to order. All the others (transplant, gen surgery, etc) like to blow through our inventory for no reason at all and refuse to order type and screens b/c they "don't have the capability." Can't say much though because surgery gets whatever surgery wants 🤷🏿♀️
@@monden636 listen, if general surgery and transplant need blood they fuckin need blood lmao CV is different because they optimize for blood loss and regularly don't have surprise vasculature hiding in scar tissue or bullets chillin in an abdomen.
As a pharmacy student I’ll never forget my experience being around a cardiothoracic surgeon. It was during a code and she berated the entire staff took no ownership and the code lasted almost 2 hours. The pharmacist in charge of me at the time told me this isn’t how codes go normally afterwards. I saw her screaming at him constantly over those two hours. He wasn’t going to hand anyone an uncapped needle by accident and stick them. Especially in all of that chaos. Will never forget that cardiothoracic surgeon. She literally made everyone’s life hell during that code and there was no reason to. All of us students were just there afraid to make any moves while the staff did the code. It seemed best not to intervene at the time because we didn’t want to get screamed at. It was the first code I ever went to as a student. It’s ingrained in my memory.
My CT surgery rotation was definitely the most intense one. My surgeon had a military background as well so he was tough as nails. Obliterated my ego on a daily basis. But I did learn a lot and he let me assist with some surgeries. I did get a letter of recommendation from him as well which I believe helped me immensely for residency. Don't run away from these rotations, they'll change your life for the better.
Face the fear, challenge accepted! It's an amazing feat to do after which all are stronger. Learning not to treat others like this. We go further if approachable. I'm not in the medical field. Kindness gets more action with respect. All the time. It's unexpected. Let's be this.
I am a cardiothoracic vascular surgery resident. At first i was intimidated by everything here. Now. I'm a part of it. Thanks to the docs around me and the nursing staff I'm having a good time learning things I couldn't dream of in my wildest dreams.
Ophtho resident here, the only things I remember from my CT surgery rotation are (1) being yelled at for resting my hands on the towel covering the patient’s aorta, (2) being yelled at for moving my hand a little while it was being used as a retractor, and (3) being yelled at for laughing in the SICU work room. Good times
This is one of my favourite med student first day sketches, it just leaves so much unsaid - why exactly is CT surgery hell? What's the story behind the thousand-yard stare in the CT surgeon's eyes? I require a sequel!
It’s an experience you can be glad you never had. It can be an incredible learning experience, but the entire staff- nursing, surgeons, OR are some of the most ruthless and cruel people I’ve ever met.
*slow clap* Hooray for chosing work-life balance over intimidation, abuse and overwork. Well done, med student. I've worked in the ICU of a cardiac specialist hospital for years, and inasmuch as I love cardiology, most of the cardiac surgeons were unsavoury and egotistic. I wouldn't want to work on the cardiothoracic floor ever again.
Choosing work life balance over work is actually why so many med students leave in the middle of surgeries once the clock hits 5pm at many hospitals. Enjoy the future of your healthcare, people.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommeI'd rather my doctor's work-life balance have been respected and protected since the beginning of med school. Burnout doesn't facilitate good learning or good work.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommeI'd rather my doctor's work-life balance have been respected and protected since the beginning of med school. Burnout does not facilitate good learning or good work. Also, they're people. They deserve balanced lives.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme the sheer depravity involved in making someone like this is skipped over in your comment. Doctors who aren't expected to compete with crack addicts who died young would be more willing to run the extra mile. Instead, for the modern doctor, doing the extra mile gets you berated, up until the point where pure exhaustion causes a death. That also gets you berated. The best situation to allow compassion is a situation that doesn't threaten the physician's life.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Actually, it's got more to do with the fact that overworked, exhausted residents and physicians accidentally kill people, just like understaffed nurses.
If you really like being a magnet for the most difficult questions as a med student, wear a Litmann Cardiology stethoscope on a cardiology rotation. ;)
One of my friends had been selected randomly for a 2 month rotation in cardiothoracic surgery (dec and jan), she ended up begging to the woman who coordinated them to put her in a different rotation and now she's in general surgery She did that because the last med student that stepped up there told her that she used to cry everyday after the shift ended🗿 P. s: Fun fact I am currently on a 2 month rotation in palliative care, it's so good in here lol
The only rotation where I saw two attendings very nearly get into a physical fight, fully yelling at each other at the top of their lungs. It was in the ward, in front of patients and staff, while I was cowering in a small office together with a resident who looked like this was not the first time this had happened. While the shouting match reached peak intensity the resident muttered "Guess we'd better keep an OR slot open tonight."
As someone who did their phd as a not-medic surrounded by medics and transplant surgeons, I heard all the stuff about how cardiothoracic surgeons (specifically cardiothoracic transplant surgeons) were the absolute worst, something about the feeling of holding a heating human heart in your (gloved) hand driving a person mad with power etc, but all the (admittedly few) cardiothoracic surgeons I’ve met have been absolutely lovely and mild mannered. To be fair, one of them was a paediatric surgeon so that could explain it…
I am dying laughing at your comment because of of my cousins is going to medical school. She's known since high school she wants to hold beating a human heart in her hand. XD I'm glad she just wants to be potentially a cardiothoracic surgeon instead of, y'know, a serial killer. XD
It is a power trip and a god complex, yet some CTS Surgeons tried to get into other residencies in failed. Example one could not get into Ortho so went to CTS. Ortho it’s fun to see you tease and they take it well, but it’s actually an extremely difficult residency to get into. Yet Cts surgeons have a god complex.
Palliative care is pure love, strength and healing for all involved. With the right team and the right network of loved ones, I've never been so dedicated or rewarded in my life!
Our cardiothoracic surgery professor is by far the most insane and fun professor I've ever had. I've never been so afraid and amused at the same time, the whole class recorded the lessons just because it was an unbelievable spectacle😂
I did CT surgery in med school. The *entire* service, for the university hospital and the VA hospital next door consisted of 1 surgeon, 1 fellow, 1 resident, 1 intern, and 3 med students. I learned a lot and got to do a lot, but it was the second most brutal rotation I did, second only to GynOnc.
I think I know what city you were in just based on the fact that the VA was next to the University Hospital. Were they separated by Merton Minter drive?
@@heyitsfiiiiii work with gynonc surgeons and it pretty much marries general, colorectal, Urology, and gyn all in one depending on how bad the cancer is.Ive even been in a case wherre we got nearly 80lbs of fluid off a pady from a cancerous cyst. Seen plenty of 3+ lb ovarian cysts. Ovarian cancer is super scary man😓. Those cases can get ugly and long real easily.
Second, and that cracked me up. Quick to the point and funny! What actually happens when a student is scared off by a rotation? And I had to go back and watch the med student's first day in Palliative Care.....
I remember the 1st and only cardiothoracic surgery I got to assist in as a med student. Watching the surgeons crack open the sternum and then "sew" it back together with thick wire came back to my mind because if this video although I thought I had buried it. Thanks for triggering the memory.
@@acjohn6995 Yes, defects! I was born with Noonan's Syndrome and a narrowed Pulmonic artery, so they thought. I would tuen blue with activity so age 7 they decided to put a stent in. But it was my pulmonic valve that was so narrowed thry coukdn't thread it through. 1st open heart then, they cut the valve. I went into heart failure in 2013 then my heart stopped in the ER in 2015 and they finally replaced my pulmonic valve with a bovine one 2 months later! My right ventricle that had enlarged shrank back to normal.size after the surgery and so far no issues other than the murmer!
@@krystlem8920 Great to hear. Heart surgery is amazing and I'm glad they have so many advances. Hopefully if you need another valve someday they can do TAVR.
I worked with some of the nicest cardiothoracic surgeons ever 🥰 one would bring donuts to the nurses on Sunday mornings, because he didn’t like that we all had to spend Sundays away from our families. They and the other cardiologists also joined the unit potluck each week. I’ll never forget the nearly retired electrophysiologist walking in like “may I join? I brought some homemade pasta salad. 🥺 👉🏽👈🏽” 😅😅 adorable.
I literally paused the video after the 'welcome to hell' and said no. I don't think I could have laughed harder after I resumed and heard the med student do the same.
LOL. Yep. My 2 weeks on cardiac surgery were pretty much like that. Stood there and watched several residents and fellows get chewed out serially for two weeks. Interesting cases, brutal experience...and I liked surgery! (they were always nice to the med students though, which made it all the more awkward)
I follow all of these and this is by far my favorite. As a PA in cardiothoracic surgery, the skit, validated my entire life! Thank God somebody is finally demonstrating what it is really like to work in medicine!
As a med student during a CABG, I was lucky enough to hold the heart in an ice bath for the slowest CV surgeon by reaching around his back. He farted in my face for several hours, constantly yelling at me to hold still as sweat streamed down my back. Memorable.
I had to see a thoracic surgeon for my chronic costochondritis and he was soo nice. I broke down in his office when he said he believed the surgery would do more harm/pain in the long run. i felt like he was my last hope after years of excruciating pain. He was one of the few sincerely nice doctors I'd met.
LOL as a med student did an elective in pediatric cardiothoracic surgery - I was applying to family medicine so figured it was a unique opportunity. Usual attending was out for 3 weeks so I was with the other surgeon…..ended up making it a game to try and get him to say one sentence to me each day 🤣 Thankfully I did NOT care if I impressed him.
The surgical subspecialties are all chill, and then general and CT live by the motto "If every day isn't the worst day of your life, you're doing it wrong".
Wow I had to google that. On Wikipedia there is no german page for it. We don't have that here in Germany. The Heart and Lungs are two different specialties here, though they share an office together.
When I was a rad tech student, I did a lot of training in cardiothoracic surgery as I got paired with a specialty surgery tech quite often. One of the surgeons was actually the nicest, most informative surgeon out of all the other types I ever dealt with. Introduced himself, asked me about my schooling, talked about what he was doing and was clear about the imaging he wanted. Worst surgeons I ever worked with were orthopods. Thought they were gods, were super misogynistic, and just outright mean. My hospital spent a bunch of money to buy some equipment to get one of them to be exclusive to the hospital and the other ortho surgeon was so jealous. It was incredibly fun to watch the rivalry, because it at least kept their attention off the rest of us. Example of how bad they were - the only times they wouldn't yell at the technologists and nurses was when they had residents to yell at instead. It was bs.
I presented on my nursing leadership journey to a lovely group of geriatric specialist nurses. I have a slide that has "this is where she saw the other side" referring to my experience with geriatricians....or as I say drs who can use their words. And I still went back to surgery. I am aware of my stupidity.
Did part of my surgery trimester (I'm from Germany) in a cardiosurgical ICU. Anaesthetist/Intensivist now and knew a thing or two about critical care then. It's an ICU run by surgeons. Nothing more needs to be said.
We were asked to choose electives and I was stuck between deciding between CVTS and Orthopeadics (both surgical branches but we have never been to CVTS as students so I thought I would explore )ended up choosing ortho over this coz been to the dept, and loved the profs and the learning environment.....and after this skit, I am low-key happy😂😂😂😂
This video could not have come at a better time for me. I really needed to hear a lot of the things you said, About embracing the parts of yourself you’re a little afraid of, How the media you consume can really affect your mood and your thoughts, About how creativity really happens when you get out of the way and allow it to flow nonjudgmentally. So much valuable insight packed into this video. Thank you for what you do ❤️
I can emphatically say a similar experience on general surgery rotation convinced me that wasn’t a good place (it happened right after the attending bragged about how many divorces her program had caused, including her own…)
I love that this showed up on my shorts feed xD i'm currently reading a story about this gentleman that's in residency and wants to work in Cardiothoracic surgery and I love seeing these sides to them ^-^
😮 from one horror to another. Picked the lesser of two evils. The respect I have for you and all those in the healthcare field is Immense. Thank you. ❤
Palliative care is a kinder gentler medicine. The did CPR and revived my 94 year old grandmother x2. Installed a pacemaker, and she lived in agony for the rest of her days with crushed vertebrae, broken ribs, and sutures that took forever to heal. No one had the patience to figure out that she needed pain meds before PT because of the trauma her body had been through. They sent her home and she was miserable the remainder of her life.
My grandma had a quadruple bypass around a decade ago and of course I obsessively searched through all the material I could find… and sweet holy Moses do you cardio surgeons do some gnarly things to the human body!!
I did a social year in the intensive care Unit for people recovering from heart surgery in a specified hospital, there were lots of stressed out, unfriendly and one totally unqualified doctor (son of the head of surgery, only was there because of vitamin B) working there, but the head of the ICU department was super calm, collected, very respectful and professional towards patients, colleagues, nurses and med students alike, was old enough to retire soon, but was still so compassionate with everyone he worked with, despite doing it for so long- he could handle the stress better than any other doc there, a very rare trait!
Haha as a former med student can confirm. Well we didn’t even show up sometimes. 😅 No one kept track of which med student was going to which OR and the surgery residents we reported to were too overwhelmed to care and we were pretty much invisible to most attending surgeons. So we’d finish morning rounds, and maybe show up to a 30 minute lap appy case or something easy to show face then peace out for the rest of the day to study for exams.
The first surgery I ever stepped into was a triple CABG. I walked into the OR to an older female surgeon digging into the patient’s legs with her fingers looking for graft veins. Once she found them, she proceeded to take a saw and cut through the sternum. She looked like a pissed off gardener taking it out on a tree stump. And I couldn’t believe she was the same person delicately sewing veins onto coronary arteries for hours, where she looked like a grandmother fixing a sweater for her favorite grandkid. CT surgery is a trip. Much respect for those who make it.
Canonically I believe this was the start of the med student starting to stand up for himself. Origin story of the med student mafia.
He's an M4 now, done with the BS.
this was powerful
The med student is starting to evolve 💪🏼
Yep. Only OGs know :)
His villain origin story 😭
The Med student has nerves of steel to look a surgeon in the eye and nope out of there.
He just finished general surgery. He CANT . Literally can’t 😂
He has nerves of steel addressing a surgeon unasked!
I did the same thing with a vascular surgeon 😂
@@louolmo3009 And you lived to tell about it? 🤣
Fight or flight? My man chose both
I know a med student who was really happy to get COVID because it made him avoid his rotation in cardiothoracic surgery.
They don't allow us in case of any health condition. I would have to retake the rotation.
Same.. we’re required to repeat any days we missed (if it’s more than 2 days) in any rotation or our competencies won’t be signed off. Even if we were deathly ill 😢
To the others, the student just avoided it, not skipped entirely. They would've done it at a later time. One cannot go on ahead without it.
@@nondescript4311 Can't go on without a cardiothoracics rotation? It's super niche, I can't imagine that more than 1% of medical students would actually benefit from it.
@@mahoganywolf8843 It's most likely an elective rotation. I did mine in GI and enjoyed it.
I know a team of two older (over 65) cardiothoracic surgeons who have so much fun that they make it look easy. "That aortic aneurysm surgery was so much fun, so textbook. We spent time debating whether or not to replace the mitral valve but decided that it would be best long-term for this patient. Such an enjoyable surgery!" As a nurse, I just stood there in awe, with my mouth open. Hours and hours on their feet. They enjoyed every minute of it. Who are these superhuman people? And fresh as a daisy afterward.
Cocaine
Aliens. Had to be.
CTS-“What’s that page?”
N-“Your pt in room X has had 400mL leakage from their chest tubes in the last 45 minutes since their arrival to the CVICU.”
CTS-“ !#^€>>£$&@@@&&@@@&!!! “
I'm 15 years younger at least and I'm ready to retire 😂. They must be in good shape. The Interventional Cardiologists I know are all runners and compete in marathons. I guess that's how they can work for such long hours. Not as intricate work as CTS but still! My back is wrecked after 20 yrs of bedside nursing.
Claasic indications of early-stage dementia. RUN!
This is me running back to pediatrics after helping out at the ICU one night
I work in IT and had to spend a few hours overnight in the ICU for this reason or that... and that was.... something else.
Spent ten days in ICU after an accident. Imagine understanding what those multiple Code Greys meant and being tethered to machines; including a Fentanyl epidural
@@dianethulin1700 That's a long stint. Glad you pulled through.
@@talithasuya8908 Thank you! Took some time but healed now. Thanks to good health care
@@dianethulin1700What's a code grey ?
as a CVICU nurse who quit to go into research I can say this is 100% accurate and that med student is smart to leave lmao
Can you tell me why please ?
I'm a cardiology nurse and I loved it. I have the personality that's fits in with these doctors once they realize that I'm not afraid of them and then when they discover that I'm pre-med and want to be in that field(truth) I fit in. I love cardiology.
@@sorban5352 CVICU is a very stressful place. very High acuity, complex patients, and very demanding CT surgeons. You need to have all kids of special training (echmo, CRRT, open heart, vents, the list goes on) and I remember I used to dread rounds because our surgeon would lose his mind over the tiniest detail. I don't miss it
@@tisha4lives Do you work on like a tele floor or stepdown or the CVICU?
Never met a cardiac surgeon who didn't enjoy intimidating everyone around him/her
I worked with a yelling dr for a long time, until one time I told him to stop and listen to what I was saying because I had a solution to his problem. Never yelled at me after that, but the rest of the staff were shocked I raised my voice to the god!
No gods, no masters. Question yourself, and question them.
@@verager2493... which he/she obviously did 🙄
Ironically, I did a rotation in cardiothoracic surgery and he was the kindest surgeon I ever worked with. He was intense in his every day life though (I think he climbed Mt Everest or something??) 😂
Lucky you!
Though a word on Everest: unless he's actually an experienced extreme mountaineer, who's climbed other 8-thousands, "climbing Mt Everest" means nothing nowadays. It's medium-sporty ppl mass-transported, pulled and carried by a dozen Sherpas to the top in a literal line with hundreds of others. All you need is $50-100k. Unless your CT surgeon could've actually climbed it himself with just a Sherpa as guide, Mt Everest isn't impressive anymore: it's just super-luxury event tourism. And an ecological desaster.
@@Alex-vq9vj Whaaa??? It sounds like such an incredible feat!!!
@@Alex-vq9vj Isn’t there actually a bunch of garbage on it now from all the people going there?
@Pegged Yourdad
Yes. Lots of garbage and lots of corpses.
@@Alex-vq9vj yes, climbing everest is for rich, white, attention seekers who contribute to the pollution and eventual destruction of land and the exploitation of natives.
Bill is smart, palliative care doctors are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. Seriously they will ask you how you are doing and will be genuinely invested.
That ain't Bill
(Bill is the resident, not med student)
@@sageinitit's Bill now. He needed to change his name to avoid the wrath of the surgeon
Haha yea Canada's really showing us this. 🤦♀️ Gotta especially love them going to the media bragging about murdering 400 PLUS people and it being their most rewarding and fulfilling job yet. Yeea such wonderful people. 🤦♀️
Except when pts. who are actually very salvageable are transferred to palliative care.
The fact that med student could speak at all in presence of hospital "God" and leave showed that he really has a iron core. Well done doctor. I had this rotation and everyone was scared to death of the H.G. I went in and introduced myself shook his hand and and he was looking at me with daggers for eyes, I pulled his head down so I could whisper in his ear, "if you're mean to US I'll tell baba. Which is Chinese for dad. We all had a great rotation and learned a lot. It wasn't until our last day that someone asked me what I had said and why I was never scared of him. When I told them he was my oldest brother and what I said to protect us all they were shocked and asked H.G. if it was true, he said yes and that from now on if any of us ever saw him at the bar across the street they'd better buy him drinks. 😅🤣😂 I felt bad for the next group in his rotation because they had him with all that pent up frustration. 😅🤣😂
Hahahahahaha thanks for sharing!
That's so funny lol!
😂😂😂😂😂 I love that so much
That was amazing!!🤣
Epic story to share
Man, I remember witnessing a heated argument between my boss (chief of neurosurgery) and the chief of thoracic surgery. I swear, I thought the hospital would explode that day.
Damn
Neurosurgeons merely think they are gods. The CT surgeons actually are.
bro, I've got to hear more about this
you.... have to tell this story, you CANNOT leave us with that hook!
+1! SPILL!
I'm having flashbacks to the Grey's Anatomy episode wherein Cristina has a breakdown and winds up sitting in dermatology just marveling at how nice and calm everything is compared to cardiothoracics 😂
Is that the one where they have like kiwi water and fancy hand moisturizer 😂
@@ValHeartNDHeartSuqquNoHeartPat yes it is 😝😂
"They don't want to cut people up! They just like lotion!"
it's raspberry water haha @@ValHeartNDHeartSuqquNoHeartPat
One of my first RN jobs was working the CT surgery floor in a teaching hospital. The attendings would ask the most impossible to answer questions to the residents and students, then yell at them when they didn't know the answer. We, as nurses, had already heard them ask the same questions over and over to different groups, so we knew the answers. After they would dress down the residents for not being able to come up with anything, the attendings would look over at a nurse and ask them for the answer, which we of course had already heard a dozen times. You can imagine the ass-chewing they would get after that. Felt sorry for them.
That doesn't seems like a good learning environment...
@@ajbp95 The goal of the Hellspawn is solely to create more of them. Nothing else.
@@ajbp95 and then they wonder why we have a shortage of medical professionals
There's just no need to be an ass. Especially in medicine. Cardiologists/CTS get zits on their ass cheeks just like everybody else.
That sounds like the mentality that propagates though the military. You have young Marines treated like shit when they first get to the fleet, then when it's their turn to be in charge they just act the way they were treated.
At least in palliative care he gets a cookie.
And a warm blanket...
And holds a stash of stickers!!!
And a gentle breeze from Hushabye Mountain!
😂that’s funny as heck!!!
I had a really good rotation in cardiothoracic surgery- I told them I was going into psychiatry- and I didn’t want to miss the opportunity to see them do amazing surgeries on hearts and lungs. *Everyone* responds well to authentic praise and validation- even grumpy CT surgeons. No one expected me to know anything and I kept sharing my reactions during the rotation when it seemed appropriate to share them. I wasn’t blowing smoke up any orafices- watching the work literally inspired awe. I got full marks and saw incredible stuff. Would never in a million years pick it as a specialty though…😅
Just goes to show being nice and respectful goes a long way. I’m sure a lot of these “horror stories” of CT start with big egos…on the part of the MED STUDENT and not the surgeon.
Meanwhile I say I’m going into psychiatry and they laugh at me like I’m a joke and a waste of their time to continue talking to. Great set of anecdotes we got here :(
The head of the cardiothoracic dept at my hospital is renowned for his temper. Everyone's terrified of him.
Unacceptable behaviour and career limiting in most professions….health “care” 🤷♀️ so much for physician heal thyself
I think there should be a difference between being firm and confident and just straight out abusing your position. Unfortunately some people were perhaps being bullied themselves growing up and are now the bullies just bc they can be.
Seems ironic...the rage with the regional anatomy
@@bryandelcid4065 having been bullied almost every day for about seven years, I know that being a victim (of anything) does not excuse one of perpetrating the same behavior. There may be explanations, but there is absolutely no excuse to behave like that, especially as an adult with full decision-making skills. Furthermore, I now hold several positions of power (for instance, I'm the President of a major academic, interest, and outreach-based club at my college, which has afforded me many special privileges, connections and contacts, and responsibilities), each of which *could* be abused to put people down, but which I use to raise people up, empower them, and provide the best experience possible to as many people as possible. I know not everyone is like this, but former victims (especially ones with power) should use their memories of their victimization to fuel a desire to ensure that others don't have the same experiences. IMO, anyone who perpetrates malicious actions against someone because "well, [someone else] did it to me..." is immature, using a child's coping mechanism and being unkind. Also, some people are just mean-natured and don't necessarily have even an trauma-based explanation.
@@bryandelcid4065You think? Everyone thinks so, and no not all billies were necessaryily bullied themselves
I feel seen. Left cardiothoracic anesthesiology after almost 20 years for palliative care.
Today is the day I raise my objections!
Maybe it’s because I work in South Africa, the country where Dr Christiaan Barnard performed the first heart transplant, but I love our cardio thoracic surgical teams. They really do work as teams because the outcomes are truly determined by the involvement and commitment of every member of the team.
The relationships within those teams endure longer than most marriages.
But not for the faint hearted - pardon the pun
This rotation in Med school was so intense it was later disbanded. Was so demeaning it was the only time in my entire career I took an opportunity to ditch. I’ve held that against myself the rest of my life. Now I’m an ophthalmologist lol
You should not hold it against yourself! You got through school!
cardiothoracic surgery needs therapy
I wasn't smart enough to nope myself out of the room. Ended up being the best 2 weeks of my med school career. I saw, learned and did things that were beyond my wildest dreams as a med student.
If this field is as unpopular as it's made out to be, congrats! I hope you gain fulfillment in your career, but I also hope you respect yourself and make demands of your heartless employers that make life for others in your specialty somewhat more livable.
Both your choice to stick to a difficult career and the choice to advocate to yourself will save lives in the long run. I wish you all the luck in the world navigating that path
@@verager2493this is such a sweet response omg 🥺
I'm in blood bank and these guys are the only surgical team that seem to know what to order and how to order. All the others (transplant, gen surgery, etc) like to blow through our inventory for no reason at all and refuse to order type and screens b/c they "don't have the capability." Can't say much though because surgery gets whatever surgery wants 🤷🏿♀️
imagine how scrub tech students feel.
@@monden636 listen, if general surgery and transplant need blood they fuckin need blood lmao CV is different because they optimize for blood loss and regularly don't have surprise vasculature hiding in scar tissue or bullets chillin in an abdomen.
If this is how he talks to Med Students, I can’t wait for the “Cardiothoracic Surgeon goes to Therapy” episode 😂
As a pharmacy student I’ll never forget my experience being around a cardiothoracic surgeon. It was during a code and she berated the entire staff took no ownership and the code lasted almost 2 hours. The pharmacist in charge of me at the time told me this isn’t how codes go normally afterwards. I saw her screaming at him constantly over those two hours. He wasn’t going to hand anyone an uncapped needle by accident and stick them. Especially in all of that chaos. Will never forget that cardiothoracic surgeon. She literally made everyone’s life hell during that code and there was no reason to. All of us students were just there afraid to make any moves while the staff did the code. It seemed best not to intervene at the time because we didn’t want to get screamed at. It was the first code I ever went to as a student. It’s ingrained in my memory.
Patient was “on the table” for clarification. Btw
What was the code
@@skyhappy it was a code blue.
Moet CTS in our facility are men. One grouchy and and one hot and nice.😂✨😃🌱
@@marie.s9995One cums regularly, the other hasn't in 84 years
My CT surgery rotation was definitely the most intense one. My surgeon had a military background as well so he was tough as nails. Obliterated my ego on a daily basis. But I did learn a lot and he let me assist with some surgeries. I did get a letter of recommendation from him as well which I believe helped me immensely for residency. Don't run away from these rotations, they'll change your life for the better.
Face the fear, challenge accepted! It's an amazing feat to do after which all are stronger. Learning not to treat others like this. We go further if approachable. I'm not in the medical field. Kindness gets more action with respect. All the time. It's unexpected. Let's be this.
That is complete bullshit. You can learn the same and more when people are nice to you.
@antonievanbruchem4540 they never said you can't
I am a cardiothoracic vascular surgery resident. At first i was intimidated by everything here. Now. I'm a part of it. Thanks to the docs around me and the nursing staff I'm having a good time learning things I couldn't dream of in my wildest dreams.
Must be nice to be smart...
That’s truly wonderful.
I am glad! People try to make things way harder than they really are. Good luck!
Ophtho resident here, the only things I remember from my CT surgery rotation are (1) being yelled at for resting my hands on the towel covering the patient’s aorta, (2) being yelled at for moving my hand a little while it was being used as a retractor, and (3) being yelled at for laughing in the SICU work room. Good times
the first 2 are screw ups ngl, the 3rd is just silly. If there isn't patients around or they're asleep i'm being borderline unprofessional damnit.
Thanks for warning
As an anesthesia resident who gets to interact a lot with cardiac surgeons, I stand by this
today was my first day as a cardiothoracic surgery intern and this is EXACTLY what happened and how i felt. Run you fools!
as a med student, seeing my first chest cavity opening was....... an experience....
Welcome to forensics 😆
@@mamushiiakai7427
Aaaaah. Yes.
Indeed.......
"that" was an experience too....
Not to mention the smell 😵🤢
My first was a drowning victim......
The smell is the issue man
@@mamushiiakai7427
Me: So we watched autopsies today
My sister: Eh, nbd, I've seen those on TV
Me: It's not the same. Not the same AT ALL 😬
This is one of my favourite med student first day sketches, it just leaves so much unsaid - why exactly is CT surgery hell? What's the story behind the thousand-yard stare in the CT surgeon's eyes? I require a sequel!
It’s an experience you can be glad you never had. It can be an incredible learning experience, but the entire staff- nursing, surgeons, OR are some of the most ruthless and cruel people I’ve ever met.
*slow clap* Hooray for chosing work-life balance over intimidation, abuse and overwork. Well done, med student.
I've worked in the ICU of a cardiac specialist hospital for years, and inasmuch as I love cardiology, most of the cardiac surgeons were unsavoury and egotistic. I wouldn't want to work on the cardiothoracic floor ever again.
Choosing work life balance over work is actually why so many med students leave in the middle of surgeries once the clock hits 5pm at many hospitals. Enjoy the future of your healthcare, people.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommeI'd rather my doctor's work-life balance have been respected and protected since the beginning of med school. Burnout doesn't facilitate good learning or good work.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommeI'd rather my doctor's work-life balance have been respected and protected since the beginning of med school. Burnout does not facilitate good learning or good work. Also, they're people. They deserve balanced lives.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme the sheer depravity involved in making someone like this is skipped over in your comment.
Doctors who aren't expected to compete with crack addicts who died young would be more willing to run the extra mile.
Instead, for the modern doctor, doing the extra mile gets you berated, up until the point where pure exhaustion causes a death. That also gets you berated.
The best situation to allow compassion is a situation that doesn't threaten the physician's life.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Actually, it's got more to do with the fact that overworked, exhausted residents and physicians accidentally kill people, just like understaffed nurses.
If you really like being a magnet for the most difficult questions as a med student, wear a Litmann Cardiology stethoscope on a cardiology rotation. ;)
One of my friends had been selected randomly for a 2 month rotation in cardiothoracic surgery (dec and jan), she ended up begging to the woman who coordinated them to put her in a different rotation and now she's in general surgery
She did that because the last med student that stepped up there told her that she used to cry everyday after the shift ended🗿
P. s: Fun fact I am currently on a 2 month rotation in palliative care, it's so good in here lol
How useless are rotations in general when 99% of the time you aren't learning something new
@@skyhappywhatever man. General surgery is good
The only rotation where I saw two attendings very nearly get into a physical fight, fully yelling at each other at the top of their lungs. It was in the ward, in front of patients and staff, while I was cowering in a small office together with a resident who looked like this was not the first time this had happened. While the shouting match reached peak intensity the resident muttered "Guess we'd better keep an OR slot open tonight."
As someone who did their phd as a not-medic surrounded by medics and transplant surgeons, I heard all the stuff about how cardiothoracic surgeons (specifically cardiothoracic transplant surgeons) were the absolute worst, something about the feeling of holding a heating human heart in your (gloved) hand driving a person mad with power etc, but all the (admittedly few) cardiothoracic surgeons I’ve met have been absolutely lovely and mild mannered. To be fair, one of them was a paediatric surgeon so that could explain it…
I am dying laughing at your comment because of of my cousins is going to medical school. She's known since high school she wants to hold beating a human heart in her hand. XD I'm glad she just wants to be potentially a cardiothoracic surgeon instead of, y'know, a serial killer. XD
It is a power trip and a god complex, yet some CTS Surgeons tried to get into other residencies in failed. Example one could not get into Ortho so went to CTS. Ortho it’s fun to see you tease and they take it well, but it’s actually an extremely difficult residency to get into. Yet Cts surgeons have a god complex.
Palliative care is pure love, strength and healing for all involved. With the right team and the right network of loved ones, I've never been so dedicated or rewarded in my life!
Our cardiothoracic surgery professor is by far the most insane and fun professor I've ever had. I've never been so afraid and amused at the same time, the whole class recorded the lessons just because it was an unbelievable spectacle😂
What is his name if i may ask?
I did CT surgery in med school. The *entire* service, for the university hospital and the VA hospital next door consisted of 1 surgeon, 1 fellow, 1 resident, 1 intern, and 3 med students. I learned a lot and got to do a lot, but it was the second most brutal rotation I did, second only to GynOnc.
I think I know what city you were in just based on the fact that the VA was next to the University Hospital. Were they separated by Merton Minter drive?
What happened with GynOnc? I am not a med student and I am curious about it
@@heyitsfiiiiime too!!
@@heyitsfiiiiii work with gynonc surgeons and it pretty much marries general, colorectal, Urology, and gyn all in one depending on how bad the cancer is.Ive even been in a case wherre we got nearly 80lbs of fluid off a pady from a cancerous cyst. Seen plenty of 3+ lb ovarian cysts. Ovarian cancer is super scary man😓. Those cases can get ugly and long real easily.
Second, and that cracked me up. Quick to the point and funny! What actually happens when a student is scared off by a rotation? And I had to go back and watch the med student's first day in Palliative Care.....
"The First Day in Palliative Care" scared me!
The definition of "i'm done."
I remember the 1st and only cardiothoracic surgery I got to assist in as a med student. Watching the surgeons crack open the sternum and then "sew" it back together with thick wire came back to my mind because if this video although I thought I had buried it. Thanks for triggering the memory.
I had that done...twice! Once at 7, second two months after I coded in the ER at age 30. Fun times! You can see the wires on Xray though, very cool!
@@krystlem8920 Did you have defects or require emergency bypass or what? Very glad you made it!
@@acjohn6995 Yes, defects! I was born with Noonan's Syndrome and a narrowed Pulmonic artery, so they thought. I would tuen blue with activity so age 7 they decided to put a stent in. But it was my pulmonic valve that was so narrowed thry coukdn't thread it through. 1st open heart then, they cut the valve. I went into heart failure in 2013 then my heart stopped in the ER in 2015 and they finally replaced my pulmonic valve with a bovine one 2 months later! My right ventricle that had enlarged shrank back to normal.size after the surgery and so far no issues other than the murmer!
@@krystlem8920 Great to hear. Heart surgery is amazing and I'm glad they have so many advances. Hopefully if you need another valve someday they can do TAVR.
It gives me great satisfaction that this remains the only video about CT surgery. Med student walked out and never looked back xD
the med student walked away, thats a first
As a former operating room nurse, I just love all the surgeon stuff. They are such monsters!
FIL is a retried anesthesiologist and has some interesting tales! Operating room staff are soldiers in the battlefield! ❤️🙏💞
Cardiothoracic surgeons were truly the most burnt out doctors I've met
How about neurosurgeons?
I worked with some of the nicest cardiothoracic surgeons ever 🥰 one would bring donuts to the nurses on Sunday mornings, because he didn’t like that we all had to spend Sundays away from our families. They and the other cardiologists also joined the unit potluck each week. I’ll never forget the nearly retired electrophysiologist walking in like “may I join? I brought some homemade pasta salad. 🥺 👉🏽👈🏽” 😅😅 adorable.
This one is my favourite out of all the first day skits. Glad it’s uploaded again.
You have no idea how much I enjoy these shorts! They bring back a lot of memories 😂
I literally paused the video after the 'welcome to hell' and said no. I don't think I could have laughed harder after I resumed and heard the med student do the same.
"I'm back from neurosurgery. Drop the act."
THIS IS SO ACCURATE MAN 😂😂
THE "Welcome to hell" then the decisive "No." 😂
LOL. Yep. My 2 weeks on cardiac surgery were pretty much like that. Stood there and watched several residents and fellows get chewed out serially for two weeks. Interesting cases, brutal experience...and I liked surgery! (they were always nice to the med students though, which made it all the more awkward)
As a general cardiology/Electrophysiology PA I can absolutely confirm the accuracy of the cardiothoracic surgeon's demeanor.
I follow all of these and this is by far my favorite. As a PA in cardiothoracic surgery, the skit, validated my entire life! Thank God somebody is finally demonstrating what it is really like to work in medicine!
Great job!
As a cardiovascular perfusionist I can totally relate.
As a med student during a CABG, I was lucky enough to hold the heart in an ice bath for the slowest CV surgeon by reaching around his back.
He farted in my face for several hours, constantly yelling at me to hold still as sweat streamed down my back. Memorable.
LMAO!
I had to see a thoracic surgeon for my chronic costochondritis and he was soo nice. I broke down in his office when he said he believed the surgery would do more harm/pain in the long run. i felt like he was my last hope after years of excruciating pain. He was one of the few sincerely nice doctors I'd met.
LOL as a med student did an elective in pediatric cardiothoracic surgery - I was applying to family medicine so figured it was a unique opportunity. Usual attending was out for 3 weeks so I was with the other surgeon…..ended up making it a game to try and get him to say one sentence to me each day 🤣 Thankfully I did NOT care if I impressed him.
The surgical subspecialties are all chill, and then general and CT live by the motto "If every day isn't the worst day of your life, you're doing it wrong".
This is the best description ever. I was in cardiac anesthesia and something like this welcomed me since day 1.
Choose your level of difficulty:
Cardiologist- beginner
Cardiothoracic surgeon- intermediate
Cardiac ICU intensivist- advanced
Paediatric cardiac ICU intensivist- i wanna go home.
Working critical anything on children is grueling. You must be a genuine far psychopath to deal with suffering, dying, and dead children daily.
The soft "No."
The wisest kind of no.
OMG! Your characters are soo funny, and soo spot on! Cardiothoracic Surgery vs. Palliative Care... both can be hell! 😊
You are so naturally funny! And original, I love your content, thank you 🙏
How did you get so funny? You know all of these specialty so well it's amazing!!
Wow I had to google that. On Wikipedia there is no german page for it. We don't have that here in Germany. The Heart and Lungs are two different specialties here, though they share an office together.
Generally heart and lung are their own two specialties but this is a very specific specialist!
When I was a rad tech student, I did a lot of training in cardiothoracic surgery as I got paired with a specialty surgery tech quite often. One of the surgeons was actually the nicest, most informative surgeon out of all the other types I ever dealt with. Introduced himself, asked me about my schooling, talked about what he was doing and was clear about the imaging he wanted.
Worst surgeons I ever worked with were orthopods. Thought they were gods, were super misogynistic, and just outright mean. My hospital spent a bunch of money to buy some equipment to get one of them to be exclusive to the hospital and the other ortho surgeon was so jealous. It was incredibly fun to watch the rivalry, because it at least kept their attention off the rest of us. Example of how bad they were - the only times they wouldn't yell at the technologists and nurses was when they had residents to yell at instead. It was bs.
I want to say thanks to all the people who stuck with cardiothoracic surgery. I appreciate how much they care for making the right decision.
I presented on my nursing leadership journey to a lovely group of geriatric specialist nurses. I have a slide that has "this is where she saw the other side" referring to my experience with geriatricians....or as I say drs who can use their words. And I still went back to surgery. I am aware of my stupidity.
Came back from responding to a text, and it cut from the first frame of the short to "no" and I saw in one frame the change in tone. It was beautiful.
After 5 years as a nurse in cardiothoratic surgery (2years ICU) I can only say: wise decision.
Did part of my surgery trimester (I'm from Germany) in a cardiosurgical ICU. Anaesthetist/Intensivist now and knew a thing or two about critical care then.
It's an ICU run by surgeons. Nothing more needs to be said.
We were asked to choose electives and I was stuck between deciding between CVTS and Orthopeadics (both surgical branches but we have never been to CVTS as students so I thought I would explore )ended up choosing ortho over this coz been to the dept, and loved the profs and the learning environment.....and after this skit, I am low-key happy😂😂😂😂
Med student here and I am loved by all my preceptors. Except CT surg. He kicked me out after knowing me for a couple hrs. Im glad for it
Don’t look man, just don’t look back
This video could not have come at a better time for me. I really needed to hear a lot of the things you said,
About embracing the parts of yourself you’re a little afraid of,
How the media you consume can really affect your mood and your thoughts,
About how creativity really happens when you get out of the way and allow it to flow nonjudgmentally.
So much valuable insight packed into this video. Thank you for what you do ❤️
I can emphatically say a similar experience on general surgery rotation convinced me that wasn’t a good place (it happened right after the attending bragged about how many divorces her program had caused, including her own…)
I love that this showed up on my shorts feed xD i'm currently reading a story about this gentleman that's in residency and wants to work in Cardiothoracic surgery and I love seeing these sides to them ^-^
After working in the heart center for 5 years, I completely understand the nope. I work in ER right now and is way better
Fortunately, the cardiothoracic surgeon during my clerkship is the chillest surgeon out of all 😂
Felt this deeply because a cardiothoracic surgeon obliterated my self esteem in viva last year.
As a child of this, I appreciate the insight.
😮 from one horror to another. Picked the lesser of two evils. The respect I have for you and all those in the healthcare field is Immense. Thank you. ❤
Palliative care is a kinder gentler medicine. The did CPR and revived my 94 year old grandmother x2. Installed a pacemaker, and she lived in agony for the rest of her days with crushed vertebrae, broken ribs, and sutures that took forever to heal. No one had the patience to figure out that she needed pain meds before PT because of the trauma her body had been through. They sent her home and she was miserable the remainder of her life.
As a Palliative NP who consults in a heart hospital, this made me snort my coffee!
How to tell when the cardiothoracic surgeon is binge watching The Vikings.
"Today's procedure is the Blood Eagle."
My grandma had a quadruple bypass around a decade ago and of course I obsessively searched through all the material I could find… and sweet holy Moses do you cardio surgeons do some gnarly things to the human body!!
My husband's thoracic surgeon was stopping by surgical ICU in the evenings, on Sundays, etc. Those guys work HARD.
There’s a lot of truth in that. I trained at a very famous hospital and those were the most miserable malignant doctors that I ever met.
Cardiothoracic surgery is a whole lot of drama in the UK... but it's a long story
Is it because of their long standing rivalry with the Cardinals?
I did a social year in the intensive care Unit for people recovering from heart surgery in a specified hospital, there were lots of stressed out, unfriendly and one totally unqualified doctor (son of the head of surgery, only was there because of vitamin B) working there, but the head of the ICU department was super calm, collected, very respectful and professional towards patients, colleagues, nurses and med students alike, was old enough to retire soon, but was still so compassionate with everyone he worked with, despite doing it for so long- he could handle the stress better than any other doc there, a very rare trait!
Might be the best skit I've seen so far 🤣
I'm starting my cardiothorathic surgery rotation this week! :')
How'd it go?
Imagine if the bedside manner of palliative care were the standard
Haha as a former med student can confirm. Well we didn’t even show up sometimes. 😅 No one kept track of which med student was going to which OR and the surgery residents we reported to were too overwhelmed to care and we were pretty much invisible to most attending surgeons. So we’d finish morning rounds, and maybe show up to a 30 minute lap appy case or something easy to show face then peace out for the rest of the day to study for exams.
My uncle will be having a bypass surgery in another 2 days, please pray everything will be going on smoothly and he has a success op 💖
I love that the med student actually decides, no this is ridiculous
The first surgery I ever stepped into was a triple CABG. I walked into the OR to an older female surgeon digging into the patient’s legs with her fingers looking for graft veins. Once she found them, she proceeded to take a saw and cut through the sternum. She looked like a pissed off gardener taking it out on a tree stump. And I couldn’t believe she was the same person delicately sewing veins onto coronary arteries for hours, where she looked like a grandmother fixing a sweater for her favorite grandkid. CT surgery is a trip. Much respect for those who make it.
watched this 10 times straight. still dying from laughter.
"I'm going back to Palliative Care" had me in stitches 🤣