Murder in a Small Town: Psychological Analysis of the Luke Mitchell Case.
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
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Nice to hear your opinion Kris. Biggest injustice against a child in Scotland ever 😢
Chris come thru to Dalkeith and ill show you around.
I'll message you on Twitter mate.
@scottforbes7970 just binge watched ur interviews with fivo and james english brilliant watch very insightful and has changed my whole opinion on luke mitchell absolute disgrace the way the case was handled from the get go defo reckon jodis family have a hand in it n hopefully all will come out her brother definately a candidate for that poor wee girls murder hope ur well
Just finishing reading your book Scott. Love your work
The rats that lied to convict the boy,will be innocent until they snuff it,then it will be a case of 'Oh we made mistakes and lied but the culprits are deid '.
AYE spot on pal but get them on trial all the dirty tricks the covered up THEY were told by the highers above AS was high profile NO MATTER what worlds whatching get someone that's ma opinion pal Boy was rail Roaded
You’re not getting any abuse from me. Well said and great points and insight. Like you I had seen this young boy vilified in the press. Yes he was a bit strange and so was his mum. That could be half the people I went to school with when I was his age. I don’t know if he done it or not but I have serious doubts and you can’t convict if that is the case. I believe it was someone older with a long criminal record or someone with a very disturbed mind. Maybe people close to this suspected someone and that’s why there was a lot of strange things happening afterwards. Possibly by distancing themselves from the crime an innocent boy could have been wrongly convicted. Even or perhaps more likely this was done subconsciously by these individuals. Take care and thanks for the video.
Great video mate. That weasel of a reporters brother was a cop at Dalkeith police station at the time and was telling everyone LM was guilty. He clearly coached his brother before the interview… as you say the lack of integrity/ethics regarding his treatment is appalling.
Watching him and seeing the look in his eyes sickened me. Absolute Cadbury's Feast.
@@TinPailTV aye defo man, dark justice material him like. Needs his laptop checked
James Mathews from SKY was from Newton Village 4 mile away from murder. his brother David Mathews was a community cop in Dalkeith
@@scottforbes7970 yes Scott it was from you I got this information actually 😂. Hope you’re well and hopefully see you on another podcast soon
@@scottforbes7970 The plot thickens...
Need to make time to watch this I’ve watched Scott Forbes stuff on this and it’s excellent. Looks like poor Luke was well and truly fitted up for this.
100%
Well done on this mate. Its very interesting to hear the views of someone who knows the system. You are spot on, no blood on him or in his house. Its not possible. Also the 45m timescale is not possible either. You are surely right it was a lust killing by an older offender.
A group of sex offenders whom knew Jodi
Alright Kris, that poor guy was fitted up for that crime, your a good speaker and you definitely talk sense, new subscriber, all the best, ps a good Gers man aswell 👍
Takes a special kinda cookie that would fit a 14yr old up.... absolute lowlife, how many other people did he destroy. Prob got of on the power. That boys lost the life most of us take for granted. Hope justice is served for him and jodi
Thank You so much for your independent observation.. its much appreciated.
Luke Mitchell reminds me a little of Colin Stagg, who was the main suspect in the Rachel Nickel murder, before Robert Napper was eventually caught through DNA. Stagg, like Mitchell, was a strange loner who listened to heavy metal bands and had a bedroom painted in black. So he was portrayed in the press as a "Satanic" type. Stagg, like Mitchell, found himself in every newspaper thanks to Police leaks, with one paper virtually telling the public he was the murderer. Stagg, like Mitchell, always maintained his innocence and like Mitchell passed a polygraph test, paid for by a Sunday newspaper. He walked the streets for years as the guy who got away with murder. Both cases are incredibly similar.
Just shows how strong the press message can be and how they are purely propaganda merchants for the gov . Back in the 90s it was so much harder to find any other view than the national media one , no internet or no where near what it’s like now .
@@COYBIG1967 Yes, both Stagg and Mitchell were condemned in the media. How is it possible to find a jury who wouldn’t be influenced by that?
Great video✊🏻
There are numerous facts/evidence in this case that I could comment on, but one that stands out to me is Jodi having her socks put back on after her murder.
Who does that?
I always thought it was something you’d associate with a family member.
Their last act with Jodi was one of their first memories of her- helping Jodi to dress as a bairn.
Maybe I’m wrong🤷🏼♂️
Also Jodi's folded bra with 2023 update that the bra had a full dna blood belonging to Steven Kelly. Witheld from the defence.
What a fantastic video Kris , the way you explain your thinking is brilliant. Honestly you’ve found your calling man .
Luke Mitchell is Innocent. I believe it was Jodi's brother Joseph who had severe mental health issues and had already battered Jodi and his gran he was also the last person seen following Jodi
1st time I've agreed with a blue nose 👃. Lol 😉
@@burants89 Mark Kane wasn't Lukes pal. He didn't cut his hair, he is the one who OD.
It was Jodis cousin John Ferris (moped boy who was at the scene with Gordon Dickie) who cut his hair
I think that also. I believe the bro did it and forced (his cuz)Ferris & Dickie into helping him along with a couple of others stumbling into the area or being brought into area to help.
Jodi was last seen alive around 5pm being followed by a 'Stocky Man' who was independently identified as Joseph Jones heading in the direction of Roan's Dyke Path 🤷♀️ Gordon Dickie and John Ferris aka The Moped Boys by their own admission were at the murder scene at 5.15pm 🤷♀️
Great analysis mate, and like how you never pin you’re flag on an innocent or guilty, but at the same time provide level headed common sense to all this 👏👏
Brilliant 👏🏻👏🏻I’ve never believed Luke did this.
Nice 1 mate 👌
#dontgiveupthefight #policecorruption
#justiceforlukemitchellandjodijones
I believe 💯 Luke is innocent. In my opinion, the Jones family know who’s responsible. I know who my money is on for this horrific crime
Cracking content on your channel Kris! All the best 👍
Jodie’s family had a lot to answer for, in my opinion.
One thing you said made me think , how bad is the job of the scenes of crime officers who takes the samples etc, that must be absolute hell
Really liked your ideas and opinions on this case and it was huge news here in Scotland, shame it shows our courts as an entity that would rather rush a case through than properly investigate every possible angle or avenue.
Good stuff man, cheers.
Quality vid Kris. Your academic qualification and knowledge really comes through which gives credibility to the argument 👍the boys innocent clearly
Yer thoughts and views on yer channel mate are fuckin bang on,keep them coming buddy,instead of people like myself reading and watching stuff about cases its good to hear from a guy whos done a few stretches,good you have turned yer life around,only bad thing is yer fitba team😂😂keep up the good work ma man 👍
He was tried and convicted by the media. Shame on them, and the corrupt officers on that case. Free Luke Mitchell
Remember you from back in the day mate keep up the good work
One simple question to ppl shouting about the parka for example , how can you be wanting to prove guilt on someone with a piece of evidence that isn’t there yet you won’t believe innocence on the fact that the girls blood wasn’t on him at all. That seems strange to me
Great point.
Love yer channel bro always look forward to you putting a vid up
Good content mate was waiting for your opinion on this 👍
Owa canny believe a missed is man never even seen the notification this was the main video a was waiting on man much love mukkar love your take on this bro a gen up think it would be 2 much violence for someone who hasn't killed before it's like the type of violence that can give that out someone who has dealt that kind of violence before but not from a 14 year old boy but anyway bro hope yir winning mate and keep ey good content coming ma man 💯🏴
Totally agree with your opinion.
This uniquely frenzied brutal ritual murder nothing like it has happened since ..that means the killer is off the streets
Or the REAL killer's rage is spent?
Good shout … @@TinPailTV
Or he's back on his meds, and lying low
Not necessarily, for example Joseph who is a schizophrenic heavily medicated with all sorts would explain why nothing has happened since because he is a zombie 24/7
Joseph is Jodi’s brother who moths before hand was admitted into a mental health institution for viciously attacking Jodi
@@campbell3711 that’s a good theory
Right from the start, I always thought there was something not right about this case.
I really enjoy listening to your analysis of these crimes.
I know this might be hard to talk about, but I have never been able to get my head around the psyche of Arron Campbell and what he did to wee Alesha Mcphail on the isle of Bute.
Can you maybe explain this type of unheard of behaviour and crime in someone like Campbell, especially when he was only a teenager himself himself.
The reason we can't get our head around someone like Aron Campbell is because we look at him through OUR eyes rather than through HIS eyes.
Have you seen the podcast with James English and Luke's mum ? Its a great watch and she talks about the way the police went about the investigation and mistakes they made and targetting Luke from the off
The government, & the justice system will never want to be embarrassed, With the mistakes, n the cover ups tht were made through ths case . RIP, Jodie. I hpe the real truth does cme out . Pure miscarriage of justice . 👌
We can't help Jodi until Lukes case is reopened... but your right the corruption 2003 2024 is scum establishment setting kids up... ask Us ANYTHING
I know a guy who will remain nameless who was in polmont and shotts wae luke Mitchell,wit a read in papers and saw on news I had Mitchell a fuckin beasty bastard,but when the guy a know got out he told me everything about Luke's case,the fuck ups init was unbelievable and got me to change ma mind,it was absolutely terrible what happened to that poor girl and her family but personally imo the murderer is still out there,R.I.P.JODI🙏🙏
I was the same as you. Its fucken shame of the guy. He needs major support
Deffo TAL
I was in iona when Luke was in polmont 05/06.
He was in cramond amongst all the s.o and he was innocent. If he was on the route when we were moving the screws would form a human shield around him and ppl were terrorisng him. Bcoz of his long hair everyone knew who he was. That man has been to hell and bk. Glad ppl know the truth now.
Free Luke 💯
Love the channel mate ✊👌👍
The cons all protect luke now 2024
@@MyTube754 Aye, all those in the Scottish Prison system know LM did not commit that crime,
I like these videos , the break down of a crime.
Have you done a course or degree in criminology or something? Or just have an interest in true crime?
I have a BSc in Criminology and Psychology. I got it in prison.
Thanks
@@TinPailTVI will never stop thinking that’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever heard , got a degree while in prison , that’s so awesome
I seen him once in 05 in the polmont visiting room and I’ll admit way back then I thought he was guilty too but after seeing that murder in a small town documentary and then a couple of Scott Forbes podcasts I’m 💯that he’s innocent
At least now 2024 the cons have Lukes back. So respect to the cons HMP. and the staff..
Thank you for doing this. I thought luke was guilty but after watching the documentary and podcasts and I’ve also read Scott’s book and Sandra s I’ve no doubt he’s innocent. To think this could happen to any one is shocking. Free Luke Mitchell 👍
Been and walked the route myself, no way did he do it
If the moped guys weren’t to do with it how can they live with themselves if they are keeping something back . Honestly I knew bits about this case but even the stuff I’ve learned here shocks me . All tge extreme violence , the blood on several ppl and the terrible way in which the murder scene was kept or not kept really.
Im sickened tbh.
This case has tortured me for 5 years + I can't stop thinking about 2 x 14 year old kids. Jodi Murdered and Luke fitted up.. the whole case start to finish is a corrupt police investigation that only looked at one person... it stinks
I firmly believe that Gordon Dickie and John Ferris aka The Moped Boys know exactly what happened 🤷♀️
finally chris thank you. x
Let’s get it right the lad was set up, her brother is the guilty party
Good video kris will that Mitchell b on the protection landing aka protang lol ?
He isn't on protection.
@ is that cos he’s innocent he can walk on the mainline and no get done
@A43R3W Aye. I heard he had a tough time in Polmont when he first went in though. But I also heard he went ahead with anyone who went at him. Nobody believes he is guilty in prison (cons I mean).
Luke Mitchell is innocent he's still in jail coz he won't admit to something he didn't do!
Well said 👍
That’s the thing I was thinking they won’t let him out till he’s realise what he done and how bad it was etc but if he didn’t do it then that won’t happen so do we end up with man spending his whole life in jail on this . The fact the murder scene was so messed up with other ppls samples etc would often be more than enough to at least call for a retrial , there’s most definitely something extremely fishy about
He's got jailed for 18 years he's done them 18years now but coz he continues to maintain his innocence so will spend the rest of his life sadly behind bars. He was convicted bfor the trail even started what about jodies side of the family they are the ones tht hav constantly changed there story but bcoz luke was classed as an odd ball it had to be him in there's eyes for tht girl to put up the fight she did he did not hav one mark on him and the semem tht was found was not lukes.
No it was a 20 year tarrif without limit of time...
@@AlexWatson-ii7olwell all I can say is if the boy spends his life in jail and is truly innocent and refuses to play the game and pretend he’s guilty and he’s sorry then he is one brave young man
He had dirty hair dirty finger nails hadn't washed doesn't tht mean something if he had done it don't u think he would hav been well cleaned he was found guilty by media and nothing more
No he didn't his ankeld were dirty no blood or nothing really fo watch james English and Scott forbes
Definitely.. researchers believe Jodi was murdered by a group of people. And the dna sperm samples have the answers to prove the real killers. That information will blow the country wide open. And the establishment will not allow that to happen.. its cheaper to blame Luke... its outrageous. Luke needs our support.
Sorry too break ur bubble but they were dirty because he had walked up and down the pathway to find jodie along with her family and yes i hav watched james English and scott forbes and they just cant admit they fuked up
@@AlexWatson-ii7oldirty fingernails. Dirty hair. Obviously not showered /changed. No dna A crime so bad there would be blood on the perpetrator for sure Nothing on Luke He’s 💯 innocent
@@Derek-c2023what do you mean no? His nails trimmings for forensic testing and his hair wasn’t washed that’s a fact check the courts transcripts
Well done kris, Its a hard case 2 cover, & comment on , but u done it the rite way . 👍 keep up the gd wrk mate 👍 👌
The 14 year old kid was innocent bent system mt
Alright kris. I think most people realise Luke was set up m8. Crooked police again
The bits that stand out to me is the potential of being on valium, the stuff you hear people doing while on that, they literally don't know what they're doing and then you've got the brother who's got the motive of being involved in attacking her before and being sectioned and put on anti psychotics. People can react to these drugs in crazy ways, at the end of the day if all these things got looked into properly there's definitely gonna be some reasonable doubt, I agree he can't have been so organised to get rid of all that blood if the attack was so frenzied
Would be good to hear from someone from the jury on this case see what evidence they got given at the time to come up with a guilty, Because all the evidence now tells me not guilty, Never getting that time back now but could give him some kind of life back at least!
Nobody from any jury in any case is allowed due to law legalities to speak on any case they’ve been a part of so that’s a definite NO on that one as that’s the law.
Luke is innocent 100%. He was just a scapegoat
I personally think he's innocent he was villified in the press before trial. They was rumours of a used condom not far from Jodie's body and ppl asked why this wasnt analysed. On trolls Kris just keep doing what your doing and give them no attention
I believe Luke is innocent based on what was not found. Everything else in this case is just white noise. #RIPJODIEJONES #FREELUKEMITCHEL
Great video 👌
Most opinions on his case grew bigger in public after the documentaries where brought out ( imo ) which did give bias ,although exposed and brought more awareness about the court system operation .
Biased but VERY accurate. Luke Mitchell didn't kill Jodi. I'm 99% sure of that after having a long, hard think about it.
That's why I have made sure everyone has access to the 2024 truth... 100% Luke a victim same as Jodi..
@@TinPailTV i agree it wasnt him ,thou too many with the same views automatically say it was this person ,that n the other person .
Just watched all this there ,enjoyed the insight on lust killings ( not in there way ) 🫣
Got me thinking did Manuel ( Peter ) come into this type ,maybe he cld be an idea to do a video on although a know theres been alot done .🤝
@@MyTube754 my views are my own but thanks in advance 👍
@@MickPurvis1986 I done a video on him months ago. One of his triple murders happened right outside my front door.
FITTED UP FOR SURE SAD........CHRIS.L💚
Definitely a set up, TAL
Been looking forward to hear your take on this Kris.
Really enjoyed listening to that mate- you came at it from a different angle than I’ve heard before. Basically I’m off the same opinion as you, a 14 yr old could not have committed this murder and covered it up, I don’t believe a 14 yr was capable of a murder like this full stop.
The police investigation was farcical and the trial by media absolutely disgusting
That poor boy never got a fair trial imo, the evidence against him was between non existent to extremely flimsy
For what it’s worth and I’m not afraid to say this but from the hours and hours of viewing videos and reading articles on this case I 100% think it was Jodie’s brother Joseph Jones that done this, if that offends anyone- I don’t really care!!!
Glad you got round to doing this video Kris and you’ll probably get stick from some nameless trolls on blank accounts but hey Ho eh.
The other really disturbing thing for me was police Scotland destroying evidence without going through the correct channels right after the channel 5 documentary, that points to corruption on a massive scale to add to the totally inept police investigation and the witch hunt by the media, I’m extremely proud to be Scottish but this is one of the few times I’ve felt ashamed to be Scottish that something like this could happen in my country.
@peterthe3rdbanks287 Thanks mate. I wanted to come at it from a different angle (psychology as opposed to legal pish). I just had to get my thoughts together before I made this video.
I feel that there's a lot of parts of this case that people focus on that are basically red herrings or useless leads. The Moped boys are the keys to this whole case, in my opinion.
There was so many to cover in this case but I didn't wanna go on and on. But I may do more videos on it as time passes. This is just me warming up 😜👌
@@TinPailTV aye the moped boys definitely know who done it - I’ve already said who I think done it and think they were put up to- forced to keep their mouths shut. I’m fae Edinburgh and I know these wee toons round where this happened and they’re very cleeky I was trying to think of a polite way to say a lot of inbreeding- but it is what it is 😂
I’m not sure any of them will ever tell the truth they’ve took it this far and are probably too scared to tell the truth now incase they get done for perjury. The trial transcripts and statements of the granny sister and her boyfriend are bizarre. Be good if you could do a second part maybe go more in-depth into the failure of the police to protect the crime scene and how they failed to follow up other suspects other than going all out on Luke- you’d think when his samples came back with no dna evidence they’d have started looking elsewhere 🤷🏽♂️
@@peterthe3rdbanks287 Aye I think more videos in this case are on the cards. I noted the contamination of the crime scene and the conflicting statements. That's it's own video. My pal said to me I should ask Scott Forbes to come on my channel but I think he's been on that many he must be sick of it by now 😅 Plus I would love to see that FBI report, although heard a rumour it's heavily redacted.
@@TinPailTV I think Scott has done a fantastic job working on this case over the years and like listening to him talk on the case
For me if you were to ask anyone it’s Dr Sandra Lean as she knows the case even better than Scott
Tbh if I was you I’d just keep doing you’re own analysis of it as both Sandra and Scott been heard many times
A fresh set of eyes looking at it would be interesting especially from someone who has academic knowledge of criminology and has experience of the legal system from the other side
I just thought Mitchell was guilty as years ago I was more naïve and just believed the papers but over the last few years watching stuff on it I was amazed at the total lack of evidence he was convicted on
Also the jurors could not have possibly been unbiased after 18 months of the whole media basically saying he was an evil murdering wee b--/// who was having sexual relations with his mum etc etc all hearsay at best in reality probably out and out lies.
Kris have you read anything about this case apart from sandra and Scott's take on it?
Luke he pulled knives out on 2 girls before he killed Jodi. He was known to carry a balaclava and always carried a blade according to his pals.
His teachers wanted him to see a child psychologist due to his behaviour but he refused.
The missing knife, the parka his teachers and friends testifed to him having before the murder. Luke himself said his mum was burning stuff in the garden that night.
Sorry for my last post I've deleted it but the way his supporters go on blaming the victims family and anyone else is the murder is not going to get luke out of prison.
It's crazy how people can watch a couple of podcasts and a completely one sided tv show believe everything they say!
Especially when their selling books about it. Sandras first book has proven lies in as does her latest one now that the court transcripts have been released, that she claimed to have lol.
Who writes rip jj on a the missing knife holder?
Scott and sandra can gaslight as much as they want but it's not going to help luke.
Be nice if his mates from back then and brother ect were involved in his campaign but that will never happen.
Sorry but I can't see him ever getting out of jail.
I read witness transcripts from the trial.
And I came at it from the psychology of the type of person who woulda or coulda done this. I've studied people like that aw my life. People are allowed to disagree.
I've studied this case inside out and one fact is crystal clear.. Luke is 100% innocent.. that's the easy part of the case..
The anomalies from all police, professionals and family, all the information opens a can of worms that will rock the whole justice system and police corruption is evident. Even Jury members are now saying they knew nothing about the 15 male Deposits of DNA SPERM FROM 5 ADULTS. WITHELD FROM THE DEFENCE AND JURY
I knew Luke personally and Jodi.
My grandad was the night watchmen for Luke’s mums caravan site.
He wasn’t the only boy that walked around with a handyman’s pocket Swiss blade it was a common theme amongst boys in those days, the girls who you said claimed he pulled a blade out on them isn’t true and they’ll attest to that he showed them his pocket knife, Luke mostly wore bandanas and from what I can recall he maybe had a face covering because he would on occasion ride a scrabbler bike.
Luke was a very strange boy as was his friends as was Jodi they were punks and had their own dress style music choice etc as for carving Jodi’s date of birth to date of death that makes him a killer?? He was a 14 year old boy in a working class minors community where he was already an out-caster because of how he looked, majority of people had him guilty because of corrupt local policemen spreading lies and how he was attacked by the media, That sort of behaviour wouldn’t be tolerated or allowed to happen nowadays and rightly so, nobody asked him if he was ok or if he needed any help from seeing his butchered girlfriends corps or how the media camped outside his house cameras following his every move smearing him in every local newspaper devil worshipper, Suspect every part of his life exposed for all to see, he was a 14year old child.
You say about how his supporters blame Jodi’s family. DNA was found on Jodi belonging to her sister’s partner Steven Kelly why?? The story about how the sister let Jodi borrow her top that wasn’t originally said by them but instead suggested to them by the police when they couldn’t give a reasonable explanation to why is your semen on a 14year old girls bra and top and then you have Joseph who is a paranoid schizophrenic who was admitted into a mental health facility because he would take aggressive outbursts and attack Jodi which he did only a few months previously why weren’t any of them treated as a suspect??
Now, the original statements made by Jodi’s gran, sister, sister’s boyfriend and Luke all said the same on how they come across the body Luke is immediately separated and treated as a suspect when the other 3 weren’t. the gran cradled Jodi’s body and told police that as well, she wasn’t asked to take off her clothes for evidence neither did the sister nor her boyfriend only Luke.
Statements then changed dramatically and surprisingly enough those changed statements all said the same by the time court comes about. Not just similar or the expectations on how people have different recollections when time had passed down the line, no not these 3 there statements were the same even when changed identically.
So we have a horrendous murder with the boyfriend convicted of sed murder without a single shred of DNA evidence linking him to the crime, crime scene or to Jodi or Jodi to him even tho she was butchered.
Are there people jumping on the bandwagon after listening to a few podcasts and watching a documentary? Absolutely, still, that doesn’t change the facts and the facts are there was more physical evidence linking others to this murder than Luke and none of those were investigated, from reading court transcripts to realising the evidence against Luke was circumstantial at best no scientific proof whatsoever linking him to this crime.
As for his mother “ burning things”
She had a small fire burner for twigs
Couldn’t fit any clothing in it which was proven in court.
Moped boys : John Ferris according to him they didn’t see or hear anything and when the realisation crept in that they were possibly right next to his little cousin being murdered and he didn’t have a clue it messed him up for a long time and still does. Not sure what to make of that tbh speaking to him face to face he seemed to be genuine but you know people can lie so I honestly don’t know
There is, at the very least, reasonable doubt as to his guilt.
He's innocent.
totally agree with u
100%
Chris u need to watch the podcasts with Scott Forbes mate how can I send u the link?
I've watched them.
Rip jodie
Things don't add up atal ,I think he's innocent, total injustice. The person who I think did it is now dead .NO forensics on luke atall , that tells a story in itself
Spoke to a boy up that way. Part of the local opinion is it was the Uncle or someone in the family. Their family was supposedly a bit notorious and well known. That coupled with small town aspect, small town cops maybe they turned a blind eye. Who knows but
Daily Record hounded that boy - pre-trial. They had him guilty. System up here will do anything to avoid admitting MOJ.
100%
was allegedly her brother he already attacked the mum and gran weeks and months before Jodi was murdered and was a pyscho now gets jabbed to keep him docile now or the police collect him to be jabbed
A saw him get attacked in polemont visit room when a was in closed visits his wee mam jumped in for her
Aye I heard he was rolling about a lot up there. But Polmont is like that.
@@TinPailTV aye everytime people saw him on the root they would attack him but as a think back it's sad if he didn't do that boys life is ruined
What was the actual piece of evidence that they used to get the guilty verdict , I mean it was a trial as he pleaded not guilty so don’t the jury have to be sure of certain things for them to find him guilty , I can’t understand how no one kicked up about the fact there was no blood or even possible trace of blood on Luke or back at his house etc . Maybe I’m being dumb but to me the fact there was no blood would be grounds alone to drop the case against him. Kind of feels like the jury has been coerced into a guilty verdict . I mean the fact that we in Scotland have the extra verdict of not proven makes it even weirder for me because the have barely made the case for a not proven in my mind never mind guilty
Eyewitness testimony and discrepancies
100% correct m8. I know a jury member that person saying through hearsay. That the Jury knew nothing about 15 deposits OF SPERM that appears to have been witheld from the defence and JURY
@@MyTube754 You personally know one of the jury?
@@MyTube754your saying there was someone else’s sperm found at scene? Whole I’m sure you have been told that , the fact it came from hear say of jury member bit through someone else wild worry me a little, it’s certainly a massive claim . The thing is now it’s know about it I’m sure that be something the defence team could take and have the case re opened , so I woodnt put too much on that tbh
Yes 15 deposits only found out by s ott forbes and Sandra lean 2023. All witheld from the defence
1.8 k views in 24 hours , how does that go against you norm ? I think this video might pick up a lot of traction for you
Aye and not all of it might be the traction I'm looking for 😉🤣
@@TinPailTVwe’ve got your back mate 😂
aye exactly ma thoughts think that kid is innocent the evidence for me don't add up also how there's never been a retrial at lest is beyond me its just a waste a to young life's. and how the detectives own that case can accuse and take a kid on trial with that evidence is also behind me. nice one Chriskeep em coming👍
100 percent I would love to know what there’s been no retrial , there’s been cases that seemed much more tight against the person and they were granted retrials
A dont know how your subs arent flying up better than english and atwood anyday no bullshit say it as it is big man
How do you know anything about this apart from what you read in the paper “scream film” joke !
The truth doesn't mind being questioned....a lie does. 😜😜😜
@@Twils638 Get 'em, kid 😘😘😘
Her family are to blame inbred bast%@ds 🤬🤬🤬🤬
You can’t have listened very hard mate as Kris quite clearly says that all the info he has is from the press , internet his own reading etc , he makes the same point for every case he talks about and even when it’s someone he met in jail or was in jail with ge clearly states when he’s never spoken to the person about there case .
@@COYBIG1967 Mate don't even waste your breath arguing with this steamer. It's like people who watch my videos but comment on my wallpaper or something 😅 clearly their ears are painted on.
Kris ur right about they moped boys I believe one has since died. I think it was done through a sacrifice as they were into aw tht Satan stuff and in there minds they kill someone they ❤ but am no into tht stuff my way of thought is u don't kill anyone never mind a loved on. Absolutely gut renching
Both moped boys are still alive
@scottforbes7970 well according to police they could not trace them yet the fbi managed to speak to a friend tht happened a scratch down his face . Then he took a OD good for the police narrative this case defo needs to be reopened sadly never will it has got to be one of the biggest miscarriages of the Scottish legal system shame on all. Can
Sorry for the late reply been busy. But sorry to tell u scott ur wrong we watched the interview and every other documentary about it the FBI investigated it also and one of the friends of the moped boys said he had OD ps were did he get the scratchs from i wonder 🤔
Justice for Jodie free Luke
Jenny boy steal Evan said yrs ago he was innocent. Big miscarriage of justice
Your spelling 😅😅😅
Awrite Kris man xx 👋🏻
You said something that you don’t believe they fitted him up & screws wouldn’t do that.Remember the finger prints planted & the copper woman’s prints were in the house she was never in.
I didn't say I didn't believe the cops fitted Luke up. People have claimed that Luke was targeted to be fitted up from the get go. That is what I said I didn't believe. But I do believe he was fitted up.
@@TinPailTV Remember this case, fair trial we all want. I had a few unfair trials so we move on. I believe it was a unfair trial. The lad didn’t receive a fair trial. He might have done it but he should have walked,
@@jamesmorton4443 I don't believe a 14 year old boy is capable of those injuries. Anything is possible but I don't believe it.
Ats what like about you kris you come way your own input mate NOT a chance you could do at in a 2 hour window even if gets no retrial Has he got to Admt to be realest AS hes said hell die in there before saying he done it Also the weezle Reporter was told what to ask Thats my opinion kris your made for this get what you see N Hear NOT scripted 👌🏴
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Kris / jury selection in Scotland needs looked into....retired coppers are permissable on a jury. I also beleive jurors who convict in curcumstantial only cases are being 'noted' by crown office and re-used / hand picked when they 'need' them for cases where they really dont have enough evidence but they proceed anyway. Dk if you'd be inclined to look into it ...
I could write a book about their shenanigans ffs.
Another one of their recent 'tricks', thats very common now, is coppers 'identifying' ppl from footage where its obvious u COULD NOT POSSIBLY tell who it is - e.g.someone with a clava on....naive jurors somehow then believe that coppers can see something they cant - ive been on receiving end of that one. Corrupt AF. I could go on. ✌️
Hes up for a parole apeal soon u think
Aye that why chemical castration doesn't work, it's about power
Inercent
My Opinion is he may have done it, but the evidence was weak & if this could happen to him then it could happen to you. Just can’t convict anyone because they may have done it.
James, you obviously have not listend or studied the 2003 murder. Its 100% innocent and we have a massive problem. That's being really honest with everyone.. 🎉
Innocent