Ashlee exactly bt they never do they rush to d next woman without getting out of there previous situation,u see that shit bout telling steffy he's missing her and them shit it's wrong
Lol Liam once again fantasizing about Steffy. And this time its not just pictures or videos, its actual memories of being with her. Lol 1st she was in his head, now Steffy is in his soul
If Liam loves Hope as much as he says, he wouldn't have cheated on her, first...then marry her so quickly. She could not have taken Liam away in the first place. All Liam had to say was, "no," and mean it!!! But, he gives in every time! Of course Liam loves her. Accept it HOEgan's!!!!
Right, exactly! They all love to blame Steffy. Liam didn't take part in any of it??! Right? All he had to say was, "no." Steffy didn't put a gun to his head! Geesh, get over it HOEgan's! Thank you!
She's just like Brooke. I remember times when Brooke had Ridge. She had a clear path. There was no one in her way and she still wasn't satisfied. Ridge left Ashley Abbott for her. She got him back and she still wasn't happy. She wasn't satisfied. She still had this insane obsession with keeping Nick close by. Then she wanted to tell Ashley she was interfering. Ashley was not interfering. Brooke was ruining her relationship all on her own.
Hope is dumb enough to think a marriage meant security. She forgot that she went after Liam when he was married to steffy and she kissed him and he kissed her back. With Liam, there's no such thing as security in a relationship.
Its easy for Liam to resist Steffy when hes just talking to her on the phone. But when hes with her in person and alone with her, thats a different story
@@gabrielbrewster107 Exactly!!!! At least Thomas had real feelings for Hope. The same can't be said about Rick. I am sure once he got what he wanted he would've tossed Steffy to the side like a hot potato.
Does Brooke love Hope? Why would she give her such terrible advice? Hope shouldn’t have to adjust her beliefs for a man. If Liam loves hope as much he claims no other woman should be turning his head
Karen Prince u are 1000% correct Liam is weak an insufficient an i hate d way he claim to understand Hope yet keeps pressing d issue for Hope to come live with Him dats why d world is d way it is
This advice had nothing to do with the love from Brooke to Hope.The advice is a oportunity to get power over Steffy.That's not wrong.Steffy did all with her body and sex and she knew Hope doesn't that and this give Steffy power over Hope to take Liam back.You blame Brooke for her advice What's about the most terrible advice from Bill to Liam.
I expected him at Hopes door because Bell loves belittling Steffy Forrester No man would turn down Steffy for a well men think Hope is all goodness and light but she is shady
Exactly .. hope is as shady as her mother, brother, and aunt Katie. And she claims to have a high moral compass and values. She had no idea what either of those things are
Lmao Bill is really the best worst dad. I completely understand why Liam's mom kept him away from Bill. Liam really would have been a Bill clone if Liam had raised him from day 1.
I admire Hope's values at wanting to wait. I hate that she is willing to lower her standards at being manipulative. I hate the message that especially Bill but others are buying that respecting your body and waiting means you fear sex, that's simply not true.
Hope did fear sex. What are you talking about? If she didn't fear sex then why was she in sex therapist's office the morning after she slept with Liam. I blame Brooke for this. You wanna know why I blame Brooke because Brooke has never been a good example when it comes to things like sex. Sex is Brooke's whole mantra. She built her entire life and brand around sex. Brooke and her unhealthy sexual obsession is what caused Hope to have these values. Given the way in which Hope came into existence everyone was patiently waiting to see how she would turn out. What would become of her and Hope knew this. She was born out of an affair with her sister's husband. Hope felt like she had to be perfect and have these values because her mother never any. Hope didn't want to be like her mother and labeled another Logan slut so she tried to become the opposite of what her mother was. She tried desperately not to be like Brooke but she did. She ended up just like. She has been with two brothers and she has gotten pregnant by both of them. Its the same thing with Bridget. Brooke is the reason why Bridget so so insecure as a female. Why she can never trust a man. Why none of her relationships have ever worked out. Bridget has always been in constant competition with her mother when it comes to men. The two greatest loves of her life were men that were also in love with her mother. On top of that Bridget always got these men by default. She has always been the second choice when it comes to men. It explains why she is alone now raising her son on her own. She thought she had found a good man in Owen but she was wrong. That time she was yet again the secnd choice.
Hope does eventually change her stance on this no sex until marriage with wyatt. She was so hung up on her growing up woth watching her mom go through men that she felt like she had to cling to this virginity till marriage stance. I think.wyatt freed her from that
Lol yea you did. I almost wish he had done what Bill said, tell Steffy if she wants to be a wife then be one. Then leave her right after and go to Hope. She would have signed those papers after that, well probably would have because she had no self respect, she may just have gone along with it. But going that route would have been disgusting
Hope loves Liam with all her heart for years before Steffy took him. Steffy loves Bill in the next minute she loves Liam that's not a real love and later she slept with her father in law.Hope never did this she had morals and principal's.Steffy goes allways after Liam's boyfriend first Oliver and yet Liam.That's allways for revenge and hate about the Logan's.Steffy did this to Hope was her grandmother Stephanie did to Brooke all over the years.
Stephanie is e hypocriet she says that hope is shildich just becos hope dosent want to sleep whith Liam befor the get maried but Stefanie is maried to Eric and Eric watend to sleep whith Stefanie but she dindint want to so she needs to leave hope elon.
Boy do they love to blameSteffy! Liam has a choice in everything that took place
That's right! Thanks! Bc it takes 2 to tango, baby! 💃💃💃💃 Cha, Cha, Cha! ♥️🔥👍
Damn Brooke and Bill are way to invested in this relationship
A mother pressuring her daughter to have sex,only Brooke would do that!
What the Logans fail to realize is that Liam does love Steffy, it's not just about sex.
Liam should just be single for a while. He isn't mature enough for a committed relationship/marriage.
Ashlee exactly bt they never do they rush to d next woman without getting out of there previous situation,u see that shit bout telling steffy he's missing her and them shit it's wrong
Oh Liam! When he's with Steffy, he is thinking of Hope.. When he's with Hope, he is thinking of Steffy!
G H u are correct he's sickening an it's nauseating bt i say thanks to Bill for all dat drama
No wonder. He loves something in both women. Steffy is pure life in contrast to the boring drama queen Hope.
Lol Liam once again fantasizing about Steffy. And this time its not just pictures or videos, its actual memories of being with her. Lol 1st she was in his head, now Steffy is in his soul
Brook is the cause of all Hopeless misery.
If Liam loves Hope as much as he says, he wouldn't have cheated on her, first...then marry her so quickly. She could not have taken Liam away in the first place. All Liam had to say was, "no," and mean it!!! But, he gives in every time! Of course Liam loves her. Accept it HOEgan's!!!!
Welcome to I have a headache, every night .......Bill Spencer 😂😂
That was funny!
I can’t understand how Liam wasted his time with this little girl 🙄🙄🙄 she’s needs to grow up, she so annoying
How Are You Giving Into Steffy You Made A Decision To Wait Steffy Had Nothing To Do With You Putting Yourself On A Pedestal
Right, exactly! They all love to blame Steffy. Liam didn't take part in any of it??! Right? All he had to say was, "no." Steffy didn't put a gun to his head! Geesh, get over it HOEgan's! Thank you!
@@traciepfalz6820 100% facts !!
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WTF dude
And didn’t hope try with Liam the first two days and that flopped? Did hope forget that ship sailed the day she set foot in Liam’s ? No more morals ?
Hope’s got the guy and still isn’t happy. Why would liam still want someone that desperate and insecure
She's just like Brooke. I remember times when Brooke had Ridge. She had a clear path. There was no one in her way and she still wasn't satisfied. Ridge left Ashley Abbott for her. She got him back and she still wasn't happy. She wasn't satisfied. She still had this insane obsession with keeping Nick close by. Then she wanted to tell Ashley she was interfering. Ashley was not interfering. Brooke was ruining her relationship all on her own.
Hope is dumb enough to think a marriage meant security. She forgot that she went after Liam when he was married to steffy and she kissed him and he kissed her back. With Liam, there's no such thing as security in a relationship.
Hope Sounds Like A Young Kid If You Have To Do All Of That To Keep A Man Then That's A Sign That His Heart Isn't All Yours
Its easy for Liam to resist Steffy when hes just talking to her on the phone. But when hes with her in person and alone with her, thats a different story
All this happens in one night? 6 months will sort them out. 🤣
Hope don’t you see you’re doing the same exact thing Steffy did with Thomas
Hope is worst.
Thomas did not set out to trick Hope.
Rick planned to trick Steffy from the begining and Hope thought it was a great idea.
@@gabrielbrewster107 Exactly!!!! At least Thomas had real feelings for Hope. The same can't be said about Rick. I am sure once he got what he wanted he would've tossed Steffy to the side like a hot potato.
All the logans justify it, though. When Steffy did it, they called her deceptive, but its OK for them to do it.
Lol wow. Brooke really is a horrible mother. Encouraging your daughter to go against her personal values just to take another woman's power away. 😂😂😂
i have a headache every night? LOL
Does Brooke love Hope? Why would she give her such terrible advice? Hope shouldn’t have to adjust her beliefs for a man. If Liam loves hope as much he claims no other woman should be turning his head
Karen Prince u are 1000% correct Liam is weak an insufficient an i hate d way he claim to understand Hope yet keeps pressing d issue for Hope to come live with Him dats why d world is d way it is
This advice had nothing to do with the love from Brooke to Hope.The advice is a oportunity to get power over Steffy.That's not wrong.Steffy did all with her body and sex and she knew Hope doesn't that and this give Steffy power over Hope to take Liam back.You blame Brooke for her advice What's about the most terrible advice from Bill to Liam.
Lol Brooke steffy still had power because Hope lost her mind
Liam just flip a coin and decide
Hope was a virgin before liam another obligation she holds over his head
I expected him at Hopes door because Bell loves belittling Steffy Forrester
No man would turn down Steffy for a well men think Hope is all goodness and light but she is shady
Exactly
.. hope is as shady as her mother, brother, and aunt Katie. And she claims to have a high moral compass and values. She had no idea what either of those things are
This is ridiculous. Two young women throwing their lives away on a loser. Ugh
I know right
Hopeless wants to be an insecure role model to young women.... Riiiiight.
Lmao Bill is really the best worst dad. I completely understand why Liam's mom kept him away from Bill. Liam really would have been a Bill clone if Liam had raised him from day 1.
Love that song. I wish I knew the name of it
Arms By Christina Perri
I admire Hope's values at wanting to wait. I hate that she is willing to lower her standards at being manipulative.
I hate the message that especially Bill but others are buying that respecting your body and waiting means you fear sex, that's simply not true.
Hope did fear sex. What are you talking about? If she didn't fear sex then why was she in sex therapist's office the morning after she slept with Liam. I blame Brooke for this. You wanna know why I blame Brooke because Brooke has never been a good example when it comes to things like sex. Sex is Brooke's whole mantra. She built her entire life and brand around sex. Brooke and her unhealthy sexual obsession is what caused Hope to have these values. Given the way in which Hope came into existence everyone was patiently waiting to see how she would turn out. What would become of her and Hope knew this. She was born out of an affair with her sister's husband. Hope felt like she had to be perfect and have these values because her mother never any. Hope didn't want to be like her mother and labeled another Logan slut so she tried to become the opposite of what her mother was. She tried desperately not to be like Brooke but she did. She ended up just like. She has been with two brothers and she has gotten pregnant by both of them. Its the same thing with Bridget. Brooke is the reason why Bridget so so insecure as a female. Why she can never trust a man. Why none of her relationships have ever worked out. Bridget has always been in constant competition with her mother when it comes to men. The two greatest loves of her life were men that were also in love with her mother. On top of that Bridget always got these men by default. She has always been the second choice when it comes to men. It explains why she is alone now raising her son on her own. She thought she had found a good man in Owen but she was wrong. That time she was yet again the secnd choice.
Hope has deeper issues and they’re all stemming from her mothers indiscretions.
@@cynthiamanning5231… absolutely right, all Hope’s issues with sex stem from her mother being the town bike.
Brooke your giving your daughter such bad advice
Hope does eventually change her stance on this no sex until marriage with wyatt.
She was so hung up on her growing up woth watching her mom go through men that she felt like she had to cling to this virginity till marriage stance.
I think.wyatt freed her from that
Wait wut? Hope slept with Wyatt? Lol
Hope, dear. You sell clothing. You don't save souls.
Bill was right years later Liam has been led by the nose
Hope deserves better Steffy is disgusting going after Liam
Like Hope has done plenty of times
Back off dollar bill🤯🤒🤯🤯🤒
Bill is spoilt🤣🤣🤣
Liam,Steffy and Hope should have been travel the world and meeting new people before getting marry
Liam goes after the call with Steffy to her place when he is commited to Hope and divorce to Steffy That's so ridiculous.
Sorry people my comment was wrong ,i'm wrote to soon.
Lol yea you did. I almost wish he had done what Bill said, tell Steffy if she wants to be a wife then be one. Then leave her right after and go to Hope. She would have signed those papers after that, well probably would have because she had no self respect, she may just have gone along with it. But going that route would have been disgusting
Hope has never loved Liam
She doesn’t know how to love, not sure anyone in this show does LOL
she has only she make not sex and this wa the problem liam is a man and he needs sex and steffy give him this
Lies and more lies
Hope loves Liam with all her heart for years before Steffy took him. Steffy loves Bill in the next minute she loves Liam that's not a real love and later she slept with her father in law.Hope never did this she had morals and principal's.Steffy goes allways after Liam's boyfriend first Oliver and yet Liam.That's allways for revenge and hate about the Logan's.Steffy did this to Hope was her grandmother Stephanie did to Brooke all over the years.
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Stephanie is e hypocriet she says that hope is shildich just becos hope dosent want to sleep whith Liam befor the get maried but Stefanie is maried to Eric and Eric watend to sleep whith Stefanie but she dindint want to so she needs to leave hope elon.
That's not the ONLY reason Steffy called her immature. Plz pay attention..... it's not that hard!
Oh Steffy Liam is.heavily manipulated and you deserved better