Our New Favorite Controller For Android Phones And iPhone 15 Pro Max! EMUs & Gaming
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Discover the versatility of the Backbone USB Type C gaming controller, designed to seamlessly function with the iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, and a wide range of Android phones. Join me as I explore why this USB Type C phone controller has earned a top spot among my personal favorites for gaming and emulation!
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There's a Backbone USB-C (2nd gen) that fits some phones with cases. It comes with small and large magnetic adapters or you can also use it without the adapters.
Backbone is currently trying to hide this information. My local stores all received the Android version with a sticker hiding the fact and they are selling them as V2.
Amazing that this now works with every 2023 smartphone!
I’ve had the standard one for years and I love using it
Been waiting forever for you to cover this
If the Backbone made a controller with fittings for phone case, it would be a top notch device, it's just a nuisance to remove the case just to use it
BSP D6 or D7 is your thing then
I'm using a regular tpu case and there is no need to remove the case though
@@xilva999 you're lucky then. I need to remove the case with my Flip 5
@@migi9358 xiaomi 12 lite here, works perfectly fine with phone case on
fyi, the new 2nd Gen Backbone supports phone cases. :)
Thx ❤
I love what u get always 🎉
We need a overview of apps to use😋 you are the go to guy😋 the format you use for your channel is excellent you just lack out of the box material😋
I was already planning on buying this
Hopefully they do something in the next ios update to allow for more USB-C controllers to work with the iPhone 15; I have the gamesirx 2 and it doesnt work with my 15 pro, really lame but ya, it seems like there are very few existing usb-c controllers that are working with the iphone 15 right now
I'd love to see you review the Honor magic vs, I cant imagine how a backbone on that tablet of a beast phone would look
I was just thinking about whether this controller worked with my redmagic 8s pro, and here you are with a video on it.
Looks nice. It's definitely on my Radar.
Was wondering if you could look at the new Xiaomi 13T Pro? Really interested in seeing Dimensity 9200+ emulation perfomance.
This thing is overpriced. It sit in the stores collecting dust all the time. If the company is more realistic and set it at around 60 dollars it will fly off the shelves and takeoff by now already.
49.99 at target for the Android version. In-store, not online.
I used to have the Razor Kishi, and I didn’t pick it up until it was on a serious discount. My issue isn’t price but at least with the Kishi the compatibility was super low. It basically only worked with Gamepass.
Yea not for no 100 but it is worth it I hack games on there that I can even play the real call of duty it is worth it thi
I agree I have plenty of these type controllers and I don't buy until discount..I haven't a clue why these companies think they can charge way more than proper console controllers for a mobile controller with inferior build and tech In it . Thing would be a great impulse buy or stocking stuffed at 50$ but 100$ is a hard sell when it's no wireless, no vibration, etc etc . Overall yes I still love my backbone it's Def not comparable to a real console conteoller though
Got mine for 50
One issue I always had with emulation on my phone was storage space (no sd card). Would be cool if they made this controller with built in ssd.
I'd settle for the USB auxiliary charging port being able to carry data. Then I could run all my emulators and roms from a cheap USB stick. I don't think it'd get in the way.
Genshin Impact... New update? Goodbye a big chunk of phone storage 😅
what emulator is working on iPhone 15 pro max? can it run AetherSX2?
I wish it came with a plug extender so that you could use it with your phone in a bulky case like an Otterbox Defender.
It’s a shame most of the phones with the super powerful chipsets overheat, thermal throttle, and slow down after playing games for a bit, especially with emulation. There are very few phones with the active cooling.
Gamesir X3 pro.
We just need better chips and in 3-4 years, those phone at the same games will not throttle as they will not get close to 100% utilization like today. We basically can brute force it.
because there's not much demand for specially made phones, tbh I prefer the system that AYN, Ayaneo is doing now, giving proper cooling fans for the SoC.
Nothing is wrong with the switch oled ….
You don't need active cooling when you get an android tablet.😉
Bigger surface area=better heat dissipation.
I have the regular backbone controller for my sony xperia 1 iv android phone with a spigen case on my phone and a lanyard attached to my phone case and I have full access to all the cameras and the finger printer sensor on my phone. The only thing that is blocked is the headphone jack and usb c port. I can even take pictures from my phone with the backbone controller being attached to my phone since I have full access to the cameras and it's not being blocked. It's like the backbone controller was designed for my phone. I have the 3.5mm headphone jack splitter for my wired headphones that use the 3.5mm headphone jack and my external rode lavalier go mic that uses the 3.5mm headphone jack. I use my wired headphones and my rode lavalier go mic both at the same time from my phone at the same time from the headphone jack so that's why I use the 3.5mm headphone jack splitter. I mainly use my sennheiser hd 600 open back headphones and my backbone controller on the bus when I commute by bus. When I get bored, I have something to do and having emulators help when the internet connection drops when there are locations with spotty coverage.
I’ve recently sent one of these back, I have a 15 pro and the camera bump lifted that end of the phone up so it wasn’t sitting straight with the usb c end. I’m not sure If I ordered an older model of the back bone but it seemed like it was putting a little stress on the type c port imo
A bit too expensive at $100 USD compared to the various Ipega controllers you've recommended in videos when testing emulation ability of tablets and phones, or even just an 8Bitdo/XB1 controller and a phone holder attachment.
Will it work with cases ? Like can the usb c metal extend further to accommodate cases?
I LOVE mine but I think it blew out then charging port on my last phone and now I'm paranoid of the port on my new phone getting damaged. Makes me think those old bluetooth styles might be fine...
I really need a comparison of backbone vs razer kishi v2
I have the kishi v2. One thing it has going for it is built-in screen mapping support.
Really asking a question should I buy Odin 2 ?
Or buy a powerful tab like legion 700 and get a controller like this for emulation plus streaming.
Hi Prime,
what do you think? Will it fit an iPad 6 mini?
Looking for an controller to play Moonlighter on it.
Thx a lot
Controller looks great! I still think the Gamesir X2 Pro is the best tho. Anyway, I can't wait to see your gaming/emulation test for the Google Pixel 8 Pro!
The backbone software is amazing though and it works natively with games like call of duty Mobile out of the box
the gamesir is better for compatibility, but the buttons and controller itself absolutely destroys the x2 pro
@@iOxideAUS how do u figure the gamesir is better for compatibility? It doesn't even work with cod mobile without trying to get that use the terrible control mapping feature which doesn't work all the time
@@gcforreal "It doesn't work on my favorite game so it's trash"
k. but that's on CoD for not supporting more controllers
@@KesSharann you're absolutely right idk why cod is so selective about which controllers can be used . But I'm curious what game are you playing that is compatible and works with the gamesir but not the back bone
I could see buying one of thesez
Could you do a video on CPU and GPU hierararchy for PC and android? Also on ram needed and speeds. I know that's alot to ask for. Maybe best value😋 recommended best mobile or
bluetooth gamepad😋
@etaprime which do you prefer, Backbone or GameSir X2 Pro?
I have a ROG 6 Pro. its 173mm in hight. will it fit into the slot gen1 and 2? (assuming it doesn't matter its an android or apple since now its type c) heard Gen2 stretches wider
I don't mind it being off centre since the type c in Rog is at the side. My current kishi V2 fits leaving about a millimetre or less of space when fully stretched. But its not forced.
Waiting for your 15 pro max emulation tests. Specially aethersx2
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$100 seems a bit steep for most peoples budgets that game on there phones as opposed to a handheld. You can get a switch or a psvita nowadays for not much more than that. I think a pricepoint closer to $59 or even $69 would be more appropriate, but i guess that PS logo adds some functionality to it. 😂
Should see the Sony androids. Samsung is no where near overpriced as that lol granted I will give Sony credit at least they have a good camera and headphone jack for good audio quality playback but still
@@robmalcolm8042how is Samsung no where near as overpriced? They have phones that cost more, without question.
Imo, Apple, Samsung, Sony, etc are all overpriced, especially at that class level.
But show me the other mythical phone that has the Sony Xperia level hardware and features at a lower price (like the SD card slot, no notch, headphone jack, etc)?
@@bipbop3121 Samsungs ultra is 1200 usd Sony is like what 1800 lmao that’s huge difference. Samsung is overpriced too but that’s why I said no where near as Sony
@@bipbop3121 all of them tend to last though so xiaomi, oneplus, huawei etc are out of the question especially support wise.
It’s crazy how people think 100$ for something like this is a lot, not only can you turn any device into a mobile console but the remote play is good and smooth, the ps portal is ALOT worst yet cost more then the backbone which is insane.
Backbone USB-C 2nd Gen controller without adapter plates works with almost every cases, I use ESR mag safe case with camera lens protector with IPhone 15 pro Max and it works well.
could you please tell me what is the length n full stretch - in mm? i mean from the insides. not the outer dimensions.
I have a ROG 6 Pro. its 173mm in hight. will it fit into the slot gen1 and 2? (assuming it doesn't matter its an android or apple since now its type c) heard Gen2 stretches wider
I don't mind it being off centre since the type c in Rog is at the side. My current kishi V2 fits leaving about a millimetre or less of space when fully stretched. But its not forced.
I saw on reddit that it work for Rog 5s thats 172.8mm. is it possible to know the stretch measurement?
I will recommend Logitech G Cloud or Ayn Odin Pro and Ayn Odin 2. You will need the smartphone, because you using more smartphone than your games on your handhelds but your videos are very great.
there is an updated version of this controller now that fits the iphone 15 properly
Hi etaprime, does moga xp7 work on iphone 15 pro/ max? Thanks!
Anything that works with ipad mini 6? (That is usb-c wired not bluetooth/lighting, big enough to clip and works with ipad os)
How is the Red Magic 8 Pro actually, and how is it vs a Odin 2?
Love it only downfall is I have to take my phone out of the case.
Where can I get that charger?!? It’s sooooo cool!!!
Nice!
Finally, USB-C controller with headphone jack!
Est il possible d’utiliser la manette avec une coque de protection?
Now compare the bsp d6 or leadjoy with the backbone
Second Gen version sounds good.. suppose to work with cases.
The backbone doesn't fit the 15 pro max. i just bought from target last night. Due to the camera bump not fitting so it remains crooked in the controller im returning it within the hours hope they come out with the usb-c iphone version
Just wondering if the game sir x2 pro work with the 15s?
Are those switch-like analog sticks?
I would really like to buy this
Make a video on razer kishi v1 type c version not compatible with iPhone 15 series
Target has the Playstation and Xbox android versions on sale for $50. Supplies are very limited.
Is it compatible with the Poco F4 GT phone, please reply
What's up? Does this controller make you play in controller mode in CODM?
I want a really good 1 just to play genshin on android, what do you recommend?
I doubt ETA is going to see this comment because I'm ten days late posting it; but, if he's reading this I'd be really interested in seeing a quick USB-C iPhone stretchy controller compatibility roundup.
I'm especially interested in his GameSir X2 Pro because I own one too and its compatability on the Android side is spotty. Of all the USB-C Android phones I own, only one actually works with it. Happily it's the one I use for Play Store games and emulation. At least for Android; the X2 Pro requires the other device (phone or small tablet) to support USB Power Delivery 2.0 or higher in order to pair. A lot of affordable; but still quite powerful, prepaid phones skip out on that and their manufacturers generally tell no-one. I assume the new iPhone would support PD 2 or above like all recent flagship Androids do; but, Apple likes to think differently and maybe they've implemented charging in a slightly different way that breaks compatibility. I don't know; that's why I typed this wall of text.
Does anyone know can i access the Xbox remote play by a iphone 15 pro normally on a playstation backbone ?
Yo, a controller with a headphone jack, finally! If I can get the money, I might pick this up to replace my old Forza Horizon 5 controller, which is unfortunately succumbing to drift.
I some what prefer my razor kishi controller cause it has r3 and r4 buttons but now that I have a 15 pro max my controller isn’t compatible
I bought the GameSir Pro but sadly it doesn't support my iPhone 15 plus
The longevity is one big elephant in the room here. I have the Gamsir X2 Pro controller, it uses the moving USB C port to help slide the phone in easier, but that's where the usb C ribbon cable failed in just 2 days of gaming(I did a complete teardown of the controller to see why it failed and how the telescopic desisn works. I'm looking at the Backbone at the moment since it has a rigid USB C port with no moving parts, and that is more durable.
Maybe the Backbone would last longer, I prefer PSP, and PS2 games so the PS button is a big plus to me compared to the Xbox buttons, which many of the controllers are using right now.
I have had a gamesir X2 since nov 2020 and its still working perfectly
I have a x2 type c and Bluetooth along with Razer kishi v2 and both back bone controllers the backbone is just higher build overall
Razer Kishi V2 works just as good. Ridid as well. Had one for 6 months now, no complaints.
@@SirDuksalot kishi software is terrible compared to backbone and for some reason cod mobile doesn't recognize the kishi it's still a great controller though id put both over the x2(haven't tried x2 pro yet )
@@gcforreal you seems to know your stuff haha. I have a couple controllers & touchrollers but I have to agree that the software has it's issues. Pretty much a decent alternative to the well-made Backbone. I hear its a lot more comfortable as well - my big hands find it hard holding the kishi for hours.
I've been using the bsp d3 you've reviewed with a realme gt2 for all my on the go gaming and emulation needs. for 10$ it was a no brainer but this does look much nicer 😊
Check out the BSP D6 and D7
@@Ogk10 i just noticed they had some newer ones...but...the only reason I would buy one to replace my D3 is if they have analog triggers. Do you know if either the D6 or D7 for sure have analog triggers?
@@AaronHendu The trigger is not analog, clicky just like the D3.
The buttons are not mushy anymore and the grip is much better too.
D8 is out and it is a big upgrade from d6/d7, has analog trigger and hall effect joysticks plus support up to a 10 inch tablet.
Will this work on the iPhone 15 Pro Max if I’m using an Otterbox?
no, all of the cases will push away the usb C port and prevent it from connecting to the controller, and no one is making super long usb c port. You have to take off the case.
How does Pixel 8 Pro fit here with a case?
Can it fit with iPad mini 6?
How to use the controller with Genshin on Android? Or it is not possible?
Hi would it be possible to connect the controller to a iPhone 14 or iPad by use of an adapter?
You can connect it to the iPad through the charging port, but it’s locked behind the backbone+ subscription (1 year free). It worked on my USB-C iPad, but not my lightning iPhone.
Also, if you get an older unit, you’ll need an android device to update the firmware (an android VM on windows worked for me).
Is this better than gamevice flex?
Does this work with a Samsung fold? I would think it won't work unfolded. Always wanted to try out a backbone controller.
I have a fold 5 and looking for a controller as well.
Does it rumble/vibrate?
I bought gen 1, and ended up switching for an android handheld console, the screen for enulators and game streaming is just too small on a ultrawide phone and my eyes started to feel it, also I was eating up my battery so I found out a phone is not the best device for extended play sessions
I had recently bought both the Razer Kishi V2 and the Backbone One with USBC and ended up sending both back. I tried the Razer first and the firmware on it did not recognize the iPhone 15 Pro Max at all. You need an Android phone to update it and I don't have one. Plus the third camera bump rested on the back part causing it to be a little crooked and I didn't like that. Could wear out the connector of the phone over time.
From what I could tell at the time, the Backbone would have had the same issue with it sitting crooked from that camera bump so I never even opened it.
So now I am using a clip for both an Xbox and PS5 controller. This is a cheaper method and gives you some of the best controls possible. The only thing missing I guess would be the fancy UI and touch screen mapping.
At least with the Backbone you aren’t missing out on the ‘Fancy UI’ as the greedy bastards put that behind a $50 annual subscription. Literally ruining one of the main appeals of their product.
Same price as gamesir x3 but without active cooler fan? Doesn't sound appealing to me. 😢
Can anyone suggest me good 4k 120hz monitors plz.??
I wish you put the top in first like the instructions say 😂
So, what sucks with these controllers is that when using remote play from your PS system is there is no option or button to access the touch pad. Do you know how frustrating this is when trying to play The Witcher 3! This is why the dual shock and dual sense for me at least are still the best options for remote play. I will say that remote play sucks anyway, so I guess it does not matter.
Could you also discuss limitations of emulators for PC and android. Ive bought powerful chpsets that emulators couldn't take advange of... Completely under formed😋
Please note only the PS edition works with ps remote play on Android THE BLACK ONE DOESN'T SUPPORT official REMOTE PS PLAY ON ANDROID
Gotta love the thumbnail. The iPhone users might take that seriously and try putting their phone in backwards.
I have huge hands.. i need a version for the s8 ultra
I think it’s on sale right now
Can you use it with the iPad mini 6?
No it won’t.
U will need the tablet models made by Ipega. There are only a few that fit tablets.
@@StruggleBoxing ok thanks
Does it fit with a case?
Yup easily
I'll just wait for gamesir to come out with a new usb c controller
May you recommend something for a 10inch tablet
I recommend a good screen wipe.
A glass screen protector
So I guess there’s nothing I can do with my iPhone version of the backbone, now that I have the 15
We need them to make a controller that's compatible with tablets!
Iwish . The ipega works but it's not premium and doesn't have hall sensor tech
it can work on the ipad mini lol
Yes if you want to open it up and modify it. This controller isn't natively designed to be used with tablets unless you run it with a cable (Not really an option since we can already do that with better controllers like an Xbox controller). Also, not everyone has an ipad mini. I'm asking for a controller that can fit most 10in tablets. @@jakejat2
If you plug it into a PC it works as a wired controller too!
There is a rip off one in ali express atm for like $20. And it's awesome for the price.
Can warzone run on that?
@ETAPrime can you give me the HN2673 mini pc
Would this controller fit a S23 Ultra? I have the original Razer Kishi but stupidly didn't check for the fit. Anyone recommend a good controller for the S23 Ultra?
The Kishi V2 fits but my personal favourite is a 8bitdo SN30 pro plus with a phone mount.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 Ah cheers, I'm not a fan of phone mounts as I find the balance to be distracting, but I will look at the Kishi V2. Thanks!
@@michaellee316 you can have mine. I never touch it.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 I could be tempted for the right price... Just looked and £100 new :O
@@michaellee316 pay the postage it's yours.
It don’t have the PS digital pad which is a bummer.
There's still the subscription locked features issue with backbone, yes?
Arrive out covers up my headphone jack, I'm glad it provides one.
Any charging limitations?
Does it work with PS5 remote play?
It does. PS4 too
Nothing wrong with using the kishi controller
Don't forget to account for the cost of a new battery since it'll get getting used up much faster, meaning many more discharge and recharge cycles.
The best controllers for android and iOS is the GAMEVICE FLEX and I have no idea why you haven't done a video on it
Are the sticks hall effect or are them literally switch sticks that will drift and render the controller unusable?
Can you test GeForce now and tell them your internet speed please
I dont think I will ever part ways with my xbox licensed Nacon telescoping controller