I do not know how stuff like this even gets past the devs. They nerfed a move exactly like this a few months ago, and decided "let's add more range, and make the tracking and hitbox even bigger too!"
Im starting to believe they do this so new players sign up and feel good. Hopefully these decisions are just temporary and they nerf the hell out of him😭
Its funny because drag b43 actually had some counterplay so it at least made some remote sense to be so strong, except this time clive f1+2 doesnt have any counterplay
First, actually. It's the best neutral-skip button in the game. Clive's max distance with his b1+2 is about 4.15 range on a normal stance character (there are some characters with unique base stances, like Raven, that affect the hitbox & make it whiff at that range). If it's blocked from that range, it's -13 on block instead of -14, and puts him at 2.80 range, give or take. There's not a single 13f punish in the game that reaches from that far out, to my understanding. So Clive, if he so chooses, can use his powercrush to delete you from the neutral entirely & stay safe while doing it. It also has tracking & is a mid.
On another unrelated note, they need to implement other ways to gain bar. Right now for the most part you kinda forget about it. You literately have to go out of your way and do sub optimal damage combos, lose wall position or actively go for lots of parries. In most cases you likely have cleared 3 rounds before you reach level 5
@@mwkan772devs made Victor more interesting to play as he can’t rely only on u1+2 anymore. They need to do the same with Clive. He shouldn’t rely on f1+2 and b1+2
I think it needs more chip damage in case someone accidentally blocks it or power crushes it. Also give it the parry break thing so Jin and Leroy can’t parry it
For me, Clive is the most funny DLC in this year, he is fresh, easy, strong and cool. I promoted Tekken Emperor in day 2 and I think that he is top 10-13 character
Yall are overreacting make it minus 12 or make linear that makes it balanced in my opinion he ends his turn when we uses it so if you're getting hit by this on a constant basis maybe you're just ass and need to get better
Nemesis, you have to see Kingsman's new HUMILIATION of Winter Soldier!!!! It's legendary, it turns him into a puppet. You two have a common enemy and I'm sure you'll be glad to see it.
@@mwkan772 I think you said to comment with real id but that's what I did. I'm KaviWar, I've been following you since Tekken 7, I just changed my profile picture
Playing paul vs this char is impossible, u have no running engage, ur range sux, u try to sway in he clips u with f1+2, u dash in he either power crushes or chips u down with lows, i cant even imagine how miguel with his miniscule arms would fare vs this guy
deathfist and demoman can be punished by f1+2 on block. Which is Paul's two crucial mix ups. Now you just need to space properly and Paul doesn't have a lot he can do.
If he was fair, then he wouldn't be nerfed in the next update. Those moves are unfair. A Safe (-8 OB) long ranged tracking mid that heat engages/heat dashes is unfair.
I do not know how stuff like this even gets past the devs. They nerfed a move exactly like this a few months ago, and decided "let's add more range, and make the tracking and hitbox even bigger too!"
Im starting to believe they do this so new players sign up and feel good. Hopefully these decisions are just temporary and they nerf the hell out of him😭
Rank inflation has proven that this is true.@@MonkeeGeenyuss
Its funny because drag b43 actually had some counterplay so it at least made some remote sense to be so strong, except this time clive f1+2 doesnt have any counterplay
Truth is, people just want to play OP characters for easy wins. After nerfs, nobody is gonna stay loyal and players are gonna drop him
In the end they're a business that needs to make money. This makes them money. You don't want a guest DLC that is weak.
And his power crush being a close second.....😅
First, actually. It's the best neutral-skip button in the game.
Clive's max distance with his b1+2 is about 4.15 range on a normal stance character (there are some characters with unique base stances, like Raven, that affect the hitbox & make it whiff at that range). If it's blocked from that range, it's -13 on block instead of -14, and puts him at 2.80 range, give or take. There's not a single 13f punish in the game that reaches from that far out, to my understanding.
So Clive, if he so chooses, can use his powercrush to delete you from the neutral entirely & stay safe while doing it. It also has tracking & is a mid.
And people still justify him and call him balanced lol
They did enough to advertise for FF16, can we get some help over here?
When in doubt Titan
TITAN *powercrush noises*
Mb i just realized wrong move mb
Tekken Caliber 8 for ya.
Clive players be like: f1+2 or b1+2
or 1+2
Df1+2 or Db1+2
Or B3
On another unrelated note, they need to implement other ways to gain bar.
Right now for the most part you kinda forget about it. You literately have to go out of your way and do sub optimal damage combos, lose wall position or actively go for lots of parries.
In most cases you likely have cleared 3 rounds before you reach level 5
Playing Clive is fun but against him? not fun
people used to say victor is boring
shaheen is boring etc
but imo clive is the most boring as his gameplan revolves only around f1+2 B1+2 almost 90%
His gameplan is kinda borinf as well imo... doesnt help that his combo route is quiet limited..
Agree lol.
@@mwkan772devs made Victor more interesting to play as he can’t rely only on u1+2 anymore.
They need to do the same with Clive. He shouldn’t rely on f1+2 and b1+2
@@mwkan772I think people call Shaheen boring not because of gameplay itself, but rather design, voice acting and overall impact
I think it needs more chip damage in case someone accidentally blocks it or power crushes it. Also give it the parry break thing so Jin and Leroy can’t parry it
Just block bro, that's what my opponents does.
are u serious?!
You still lost that exchange though because even if you block it, youve taken chip damage.
The dragunov was jabbing the air from range 3 bro
It's very strong for sure. But Drag sneak 4 is still the most busted move in the game.
It's like Noctis ORA from launch all over again.
Muh Prominence
What about MUH PROMINENCE?
that's also good but these 2 are just over the top
so many of his moves look and are supposed to be punishable but are not
Truly one of the DLC characters of all time.
I think they should shorten the duration of his kamehameha. Idk what it is but it doesn’t feel like tekken at all.
Exactly why I kinda havent been playing for a bit just cause of this character alone
For me, Clive is the most funny DLC in this year, he is fresh, easy, strong and cool. I promoted Tekken Emperor in day 2 and I think that he is top 10-13 character
B R U H
0:12 doesn’t 3,3 into WoL 2 do more damage?
Does it? 🤔
@ I’ve heard something like 3,3 has less scaling because of less hits and then WoL 2 does more damage
Yes, 33 just outright does more damage
It would've done more damage if he hadn't done df1,4 before the tailflip
Man, I’ve been meaning to try getting back into T8 recently, wonder what the new dlc is like?
*sees f1+2 range
Yeah I think I’ll just play Tag 2
Titan is also dumb af. At 2:16 hit from a km away and it has good tracking too. Smh.
TMM: Muh Prominence
more like dumbest character in t8
1:03 Why you couldn't punish ? It's supposed to be -14
He was a bit late ig…
153ms
Dumbest CHARACTER, really.
Yall are overreacting make it minus 12 or make linear that makes it balanced in my opinion he ends his turn when we uses it so if you're getting hit by this on a constant basis maybe you're just ass and need to get better
Has good range, is safe, and freaking tracks. The amount of times I get clipped or i get someone clipped by the 2nd hit is a lot. It's so dumb lmao.
Prominence Man
that damage 🤣 1:22
I played against that zafina. tbh zero defense. hes all offense
Hahahahahahahaahaa❗
Mere sath bhi khelaqro
IMO this move needs to be at least -13. It's a heat launcher and crazy range. Clive wouldn't be obnoxious if this could be punished
Yes indeed.
Only the d riding ff fans defend this character 😒
Make it -13
Nemesis, you have to see Kingsman's new HUMILIATION of Winter Soldier!!!! It's legendary, it turns him into a puppet. You two have a common enemy and I'm sure you'll be glad to see it.
@@mwkan772 Sorry but I don't understand your language, I only know Spanish and English
@@mwkan772 I think you said to comment with real id but that's what I did. I'm KaviWar, I've been following you since Tekken 7, I just changed my profile picture
ah sorry..this reply was for someone else not you
I watched his video haha it was fun
@@mwkan772 I recommended it to you because I knew you would like it, I'm glad about that.♥️
Playing paul vs this char is impossible, u have no running engage, ur range sux, u try to sway in he clips u with f1+2, u dash in he either power crushes or chips u down with lows, i cant even imagine how miguel with his miniscule arms would fare vs this guy
deathfist and demoman can be punished by f1+2 on block. Which is Paul's two crucial mix ups. Now you just need to space properly and Paul doesn't have a lot he can do.
@@jandipopo_art2012I know, and it's hilarious hitting Trooper Rollers with b1+2 😂.
I mean, yeah this move is very good, but Clive's still a fair character. His pokes are mediocre at best and his lows are terrible.
If he was fair, then he wouldn't be nerfed in the next update. Those moves are unfair. A Safe (-8 OB) long ranged tracking mid that heat engages/heat dashes is unfair.
I hated the game after Clive fr
Nerf Clive, dlc power is too strong