Best HUB for diy Whirligig propeller how to make easy windmill with table saw
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- This is a re-make of crafting a whirligig propeller. It provides an in-depth explanation of using a table saw with a miter gauge extension to accurately cut hubs for a four-blade propeller. This technique is applicable for nearly any blade count up to eight or more, provided the hub's diameter is enlarged. Additionally, it is suitable for cutting slots into a square hub.
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Neat jig. I like your little tablesaw. I found an old table saw gearhead in the trash. I never really thought about making a little benchtop one. Ill have to weld up a little frame for it. That is a great way to make a hub!
I use this tablesaw more than my larger one, keep it under the workbench and pull it out when I need it. Thanks for the kind comments!
Diode laser cutters are cheap now. I can cut a hub with variable pitch blades in a few minutes... without buying expensive tools and risking serious injuries fiddling around.
I'm an old school modeler and I know the ropes; It has been a game changer for me- and tons of how-to's and resources on UA-cam make it simple to learn.
Overall these machines are "oh, so useful" for all of these builds and more. I still incorporate standard basic tool-ware, but lasers are the future if you want repeatable production. They're also useful for quick prototypes for testing, design and development of ideas.
I love using- mine and the price is unbeatable for what you get.
Sounds great.
Nice little jigs, simple but quite effective. I made one after your designs. Worked good. Thanks
You are most welcome. Glad you found it useful. 👍
Great idea !
Thanks!
I enjoy your work and the tips! Thanks! George, Charles City, VA.
Thank you for the kind comments!
Nice jige ,I use a protractor and cut my wheel at 25 degree by hand ,but I like your jigg and plan to make one .Thanks.
Good idea, good luck with your whirligigs, thanks for the comments. 👍
Great video. I enjoyed watching the explanation. Should make a nice whirligig !
Thanks for the kind comments
Awesome idea. I made 3 propellers.
Good job, thanks for the comment.
Adoro seu trabalho muito obrigado
obrigado
excelente explicacion
Thank you
Just an FYI. Try not to pull your work back through the blade after running a piece of wood forward through the table saw. That is how and when KICKBACK occurs. Same with a hand held circular saw.
good tip
a lot of us have to learn the hard way.
I watched a guy try and pull a piece of wood backwards on a table saw. He wanted a certain cut. He told me, never do this. Well, he also showed me why. The wood shot past him and into the wall. I'm sure he thought he could get away with it if he was very careful. It missed his gut. I made it years without a kickback until last year. It was on a not so nice tablesaw.
Excelente tu arte, felicitaciones.... Solo El idioma lo compleja... Pero un video vale más que mil palabras... Un abrazo desde Catapilco, Chile 🇨🇱
Gracias por sus amables comentarios. Me alegro de que hayas disfrutado del video. ¿Construyes whirligigs en Chile?
Lindo trabalho.parabéns
Muito obrigado pelo seu gentil comentário
This seems like a great way to make a hub. I'm a little unsure on how to make the jig. I'll go back and look at previous videos to see if more details are given.
Take a look at some of my other videos, there are more pictures and explanations The jig is simply a piece of wood clamped to the miter gage with a hole drilled in it for the bolt to hold the hub. Good Luck with your whirligigs. It's 14 inches long and 2 1/2 inches high. Just a cut down piece of 2 X 4 lumber.
Nice job.
Thank you! Cheers!
hello, I see all your videos, I love your work, it serves me as an inspiration. Soon I'm getting organized and I'm going to start practicing this hobby in my free time.I love all the content,and thank you very much for sharing it,a hug from your admirer and friend from Brazil,I'm from the south region,a place with a lot of wind. hug
Thank you for your kind comments !
Espectacular gracias por tanta. creatividad se puede octruiir de aspas más grandes gracias
wow, that first part sounded louder than when I do it in the shop...
Muito bom trabalho .
Muito Obrigado
Some how I will have to build a jig to use on my sliding compound saw. Thanks for sharing
By the way, what determines the length of each blade?
No hard and fast rule. Generally the longer the blade the slower the rotation. You will want to consider weight and ease of mounting also. Best of luck with your whirligigs!
@@gwheyduke , I found out that a dado blade on the table saw works best. Doing it on the compound saw required to many cuts and left steps in the groove. Good to know about the slower rotation. Thanks
Very good explanation, that’s the hardest part and most important part that everyone has trouble with thank you 🤙🤙
Glad it helped
Bom dia parabéns pelo vídeo 🇧🇷
Bom dia, obrigado pelos seus comentários amáveis
That's a good way to make the best whirligig hub in my opinion. 😊👍
Thanks🙂
شكرا على هدا العمل الرائع
شكرا لك على رسالتك الرقيقة. Thank you for your kind message.
Once again, I applaud your work. You're doing a wonderful job helping others. I do have one more question, where do you get the little parts that you use, the bearings, the tubing, the bbs or any other mechanical parts being used? Is there a website that I can go to that you get your supplies from? Once again, thank you for your time and effort
Thanks for your kind comments. "Cherry Tree Toys" has those brass parts, you can order them online. Good luck with your whirligigs. 🙂 your whirligigs. 🙂
Would the miter guage be set for 35 degrees for a 2 blade prop also? I'm in the process of making a piper cub champ whirligig, but it has a 3 inch long hub. I would rather have a round hub
Yes, you can you the same angle for a two bladed propeller no problem. I think round prop hubs look better too. Best of luck with your Cub Whirligig.
Excellent hub jig, that was the part I was really stumped on but thanks for sharing.
Thanks ! glad you found it useful.
Love this video. Very helpful to me. A few questions please sir. (1) What is the diameter of your hub. (2) What wood(s) do you recommend for the body of the whirligig? (3) What woods for the hubs? (4) And finally, what woods for the blades. Thanks for making this all so clear to a relative novice!
Thanks for the comment. The diameter of the hub is about 2 1/2- inches. Poplar works well for the hubs and pine for the body and blades, a lighter wood is usually better. for the blades. Good luck with your whirligig.
Hello, can you please tell me the angel you are using to cut the hub? It looks like 50 degrees from what I can see on the video. Thanks!
Yes, of course! You are close. The miter gage is set to 35 degrees which makes the included angle 55 degrees. It's not critical. It's just what I find works best for my whirligigs. Best of luck with your hubs!
@@gwheyduke Hi, thanks for all your vids.
I saw the miter gage was set at around 55 degrees and that’s that I set mine at. Was I supposed to set it at 35 degrees? What did you mean by included angle? 🫤
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Where did you get the table saw blade that can cut a 3/16” wide slot for hub slots?
Thanks in advance
I use a 7 1/4" "wobble" type of dado blade. ( Usually about $20.00). I use it all the time. 3/16" is the smallest setting on the adjustment. You can find them on ebay or Amazon
I like your video. Is your hub a 3 inch knockout? I will have to check my inventory to see if I can find one.
Yes, I think this one is a 2.5 inch door hole saw but 3 would work fine. Thanks for the comments.
Thank you for the video, I do wish that I had found it before I started making whirligigs. I managed to come up with a similar jig. Do you use a bush or bearing in your hubs?
I am using the steel hydraulic brake line from a truck as a bush. It has an 8mm outer diameter and a 6mm inner diameter, it works really well.
Regards from South Africa.
Thank you for the kind comments. I use a brass bushing in most of my hubs. Anything that works is fine. Best of luck with your whirligigs.
Thanks for the video and your ideas. The way that you make the slots in the hub looks pretty easy. If the blades are 1/4" but the saw blade cuts an 1/8", how do you make the slots wider and still centered on the hub with the 1/4" thickness of the blades?
My blades are 3/16", You can use a dado blade set, they can be expensive, A wobble type dado blade is available from Oldham that adjusts down to 3/16". Find them on eBay or flea markets for about $20.00. I use this blade on my older saw that has a longer blade spindle. Newer saws from Lowes or Harbor freight don't have enough thread on the spindle to fit the Oldham dado blade.
One work around I have used is to create my own dado stack with two Harbor Freight thin cut construction blades (pretty cheap) and fix them on the saw spindle with two 4-inch discs of cereal box cardboard in-between the blades. I adjust the number of spacers to fit blade thickness. This will leave a small ridge down the middle of the slot but if you carefully bend on or two teeth one blade to overlap the other blade it will minimize the ridge. Just the way I do it, don't try this at home😳
I don’t have a table saw
Any suggestions on making the correct angle cuts without one!
Perhaps using a multi-tool cutter?
There are set ups to make accurate angles with a band saw, a router and a hand saw. It's best to set up some sort of a guide so that all the slots are the same angle. Other than that you can use a hand saw and draw some accurate lines to follow while cutting. Best of luck with your whirligigs ! Try this ua-cam.com/video/3B31ckYw6yg/v-deo.html
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I make props with wood dowels. I cut the dowel in half along it's length so you have a flat surface to glue to the blade but leave a half inch of it round. So then just drill holes in the hub and install your blades and Guage for pitch.
Wow pretty incredibly cool design. What degree do you have your push jig set at?
The angle used on the miter gage was 35 degrees if i remember correctly. Anything from 45 to 30 will work OK
@@gwheyduke really cool. Thank you
Wonderful job explain what you're doing I do have a question what size is the hub in thickness and in diameter which one do you most often use 🤔
Usually I use a poplar hub measuring 3/4 thickness and the hub is 2 3/8- inches in diameter. This is determined by the diameter of the inexpensive door hole saw set used to cut them out. They are designed to cut a hole so their measurements are to the outside diameter of the tool. Of course, the inside "donut hole". is used for the hub.
@@gwheyduke do you use a special table saw blade I noticed that the cuts on the hub were thick look like more than 1/8 inch which leads me how thick are the paddles I appreciate your input, I do a lot of things with wood but this is new to me
@@larryhousden1379 The saw is nothing special, but I do use a stack type of dado saw blade to get the slots on the hubs the correct thickness. My blades are about 3/16" thick, so the slots are the same, maybe just a hair less, to get a good snug fit.
@gwheyduke Thank you very much, sir, for the input. I appreciate it. You're doing a wonderful job, and I hope you continue your videos. I always enjoy watching your videos. 👍
@@larryhousden1379 Thank you, so glad you find them useful.
I've shown this method in previous videos, but I wanted to focus in and spend a little more time explaining the entire process.
what is the wood thickness of your propellers ? When you are cutting the grooves into the hub, what is the width of the groove ? My table saw will only make a 1/8" groove
These propeller blades are approximately 3/16-inch thick. They will vary from .187 to .202 during the cutting process. For just one or two propellers I used to simply run the hub through twice. However I found an inexpensive "wobble" type dado blade for about $20 bucks and when set to it's thinnest setting it cuts 3/16-inch slots.
I guess I missed it. What angle were the blades at? Sorry.
I set the miter gage over to 35 degrees. The blade angle will work Ok from 30 to 50 degrees.
@@gwheyduke OK, thank you so much! I loved your video! You did such a good job. :)
I like your table saw jig. Not sure why you over complicated marking out the 90 degree marks on your rounds. You can mark them out on the face and just transfer those marks to the sides. Anyway nice work.
Was trying to demonstrate the way to create any number of blades by dividing 360. For example, an 8-blade hub could be marked out in the same way. Then the index mark on the miter gage extension used to position the hub for each of the dado cuts in the same manner as a 3, 4, 6 blade hub and so on.
Love your video could you email me a copy of the paper templet
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Kerf width of saw blade?
On this video I used a wobble type dado blade set to 3/16"
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Ano, můžete použít pásovou pilu. a to by mohlo být lepší pro kovové čepele. Děkuji za vaše připomínky.
@@gwheyduke Díky za odpověď . Ze kterého státu pocházíte ? Thanks for Your answer .
@@kareldrlik1963 Jste velmi vítáni. Pocházím ze Spojených států
Ps also it is very dangerous cutting through and then backing against the forward turning blade. Especially without the throat plate
Thanks for the comments.
What is the angle
I used 35 degrees on these blades
Good but you certainly dragged it out
Thanks for your comment, on this video I tried to add as much information as possible for the beginner
I noticed you were worried about having eye protection! But the throat place is missing during your cut! Not safe at all!! Another unsafe method using bolts. As you said you don’t want to make contact with the metal.
For all the woodworkers that own Saw Stop table saws if you use the bolt method bypass your brake! Otherwise you may activate the brake. I would also suggest to anyone using a cheap blade.
The main issue is still no throat plate. Let’s say something came loose and went into the spinning blade? It will become a projectile causing possible damage to yourself or others. Simple solution make a sacrificial throat plate out of plywood!
In the video you use a wrench to tighten down the nut. Have you tried a wing nut? Another thought have you tried using a bandsaw to make the angle cuts? Yes it takes longer to make a wide enough slot. But woodworking is not a race! We find things that are quicker, but not for the cost of safety.
I want to say if anyone can do whatever they want in their shop. I just wanted to point out some safety issues and possible future issues
Thanks for the info
is this guy short sighted?
no, just short
Love your videos very helpful could you email me the paper drawing on the board
The diagram is simply a circle divided by whatever number of blades you want to have. Then you use a protractor to mark that angle on a piece of paper. Easy to do yourself and quicker than waiting.