The same guy who doesn't rate any of our signings says we should be challenging for the league this season with the same players.. make it make sense!!!
* 5:40 Not under this manager We have now you air head!! Lol, do you even understand English?? And he didn't even exactly say that, are you fabricating on here like a 12 year old on a boring wind-up? A new manager would make the *required changes. Grow up, honestly lol.
Great debate, can see things both sides.. LG sticks to his guns and that's fair enough and somethings you can't argue with . But also agree with LJ that there's nothing wrong with celebrating a win and that doesn't mean you're accepting mediocrity.. Its just celebrating that particular win. Let's face it we need something to celebrate
But that's basically whittling down to the level of a club like Everton or Norwich. ''Happy'' at the fleeting wins or 'what comes by'. There's no Good target, there's 0 aim and ambition towards a bigger picture; it's small-time and casual. I love Arsenal forever and I wake up a happier person each day win or lose because I support the club I do so deeply. But that doesn't mean I have to *trust any corporate vehicle or management at our club because they say 'nice stuff'. I'm most happy I have sense to realise this.
Most Arsenal fans weren't in favour of the Ramsdale move, news flash all football fans are wrong from time to time don't make anyone less of a supporter and maybe you should watch more of LG content cause he has said good things about Arsenal but there's not really much good to talk about Arsenal these days if we're being honest which sums up why he is the way he is
@@Handleoff1 Don’t be silly now. The point that Lee said he’d seen 5 titles, does not entitle him, me, you or anyone else the right when we see another one. Enjoy the ride and when it gets bumpy, pretend you’re riding the bumper cars. Up the gooners
@Round 1 😂 You're honestly attention-deprived. Everything's definitely not alright at home for you to be so shaken to the core by someone's views online - seek medical sessions you total $iberian weapon. And don't ever call yourself an Arsenal fan; a pathetic simpleton washout like you belongs to drying the tea lady's laundry and cleaning the showers at Spuds.
Respectfully when was the last time Arsenal even challenged for the title? If we challenged for a few years in the last What 15+ years and now the club is asking for patience cause of this transitional period then it would be forgivable but transitional periods have been an excuse for years now, surely having a problem with that isn't kicking the club🤔
Acac hala If you wanna call that a challenge you can but we finished 10 points behind them and I swear we only nicked 2nd on the last day of the season
Lee Gunner sees things in very black and white terms; the world has many shades of grey in between. He cannot see anything positive with the current team. I'm not an Arteta fan but we should should be aware that a broken clock is correct twice a day
Great show boys, good to see lee gunner on the link up. He was pretty chill though, the Spanish sun had him in a good mood! It's all about THE ARSENAL!
The fact you want to win the league is positive but unrealistic. To say 4th isn't good enough given our finishing posititon in the last 2 years is very much negative. We aren't just accepting top 4, we trying to reach an attainable target that (fingers crossed) will enable us to attract biggier & better players.
So if a coach joins a club and regresses it for 2 years straight, wastes over 200mil and loses even more falling out with players especially on re-sale, makes more mistakes in that time then most managers would in 20years.... not to mention losing to our previous manager who had a 15mil squad....... is all good because he is getting back to a stage where the club already was before he got there? That's progress? 🤔🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ delusional.... the bloke is rubbish.... Season still not over either... even with Man U and Tottenham in a mess we will still finish outside the top 4.... Wake up mate... we got a novice Natzi in charge on job experience... this is ARSENAL FC 3rd biggest club in the country... not McDonald's FC... we got better players on loan then we do at the club.... make it make sense... lol So it's not unrealistic at all... even if we still had Emery and he had been backed the way this tit has been we would be in the mix for 2nd and 3rd with Chelsea and Liverpool on our way to challenging for the league next season with more summer backing and actually attract top players... noone wants to play under this flop now... top 4 would of been pretty much guaranteed.
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u your judgement is clouded with hate. 1. We finished 8th the last two years. Id hardly call that regression - considering the massive change the club had to go through of getting dead wood out of the club. We were never going to win anything with that squad of ageing players especially our defence. 2. Resale of players isn't artetas fault. This has been an issue at the club prior to him taking charge. 3. He has made fewer mistakes than Emery and has a squad of players who are willing to fight each match for him. Emery was not going to get us to champions league or a title win. Look at emery's performance in la liga.... hardly impressive. The guy can't make the top six and you think he would be in the mix of 2nd and 3rd? 5. Failing to see how we have wasted 200m. Its the 200m investment that has put us in a race for top 4 - something we all didnt see coming. This time last year we were sitting outside the top 10
@@richsatti7086 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣 mate you are a lost cause... completely delusional.... keep making excuses and manipulating things to suit your emotional bias, taking in what you want to take in and ignoring what suits you... They'll continue the fuckery for another 18 years with fans like you around..... lol shocking...
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u U are easily the lost cause and full of hatred for a young manager trying to do what he thought is best for the club. Get on board or get lost....same for lee gunner!!
Fantastic hearing the two debate with different opinions but not get toxic with one another like other fans do. Would love to see a weekly segment with both Lee's on each others channel's.
I can’t hold my tongue. LG is deluded saying he’s not negative. He wants us to lose so Arteta gets the sack. What a supporter he is. His vendetta against Arteta is bigger than his love of Arsenal. Or more to the point he loves the attention that gives him and his channel. Fake fan.
Bro the guy wore a mahrez shirt when we played city.. he hasn’t put a single penny into his channel still got the same rat in the corner from 2 year ago fs he’s robbing a living 😂
While I understand LJ point of view of Arteta critics been harsh, I also thinks LJ been clouded by the Wenger/Fergie era of trusting long term projects. Arsenal is not progressing as much as fans hoped for.
Lee Gunner should consider that Arteta inherited a depleted squad, and he had to restore Arsenal's identity both on and off the field, don't forget that it took Klopp 3 and half years to win a trophy for Liverpool, people should be patient with Arteta because has been more competitive than in the 80s or whatever the case maybe, Lee Gunner doesn't like Arteta irregardless of what he does
Well this is Arteta's 3rd year and he's not going to win Champions League is he? that's what Klopp did so by comparing him with Klopp you're saying the standards are to qualify for UCL this season and win it next year, right?
100% arteta has his favourites I Don't think he makes decisions for the best of the club but rather for himself clear enough to see he got no man management
Watched on playback Well done gentlemen Your Vieira is doing well at my Palace I’m hopeful Pat will guide his 🦅s Up the league & deliver our first FA Cup 🙏
I think a lot of Gooners are rooting for Palace because of the Vieira connection. Would love to know what do the Palace fans think of him atm? Are the majority happy with him and what have been the main criticisms of him?
Lee Gunner needs to follow Bayern Munich, PSG or City. He will only accept 1st? The guys just being negative for the sake of views, I thought he had some good points but he also has mostly bad ones. He is moaning about the level of signings, then moaning we want to get into the top 4 in order to attract better players.
? Lol, imagine being so triggered, after attention and delusional to put this rookie in front of Our club. Tell me you're a fake fan without telling me you're a fake fan. 🤡
Lee's dead wrong when it comes to this squad being top 4 standard (last summer or at present). Spurs and United have better players... and that's not to excuse Arteta, who is partly responsible for that.
Ok, I'm listening. Well, the ''deAD wrongg'' bit was a bit dramatic but then you started to take on some sense at least. So, what is the plan then? And how long? Long enough for Chelski to win another CL on Us or Manure to recover to top4 properly in front of our noses? I hope not! What's your view on Us getting a player like Haaland? Up for it, or do you think he's bigger than Our club and ''we cannot do it''?
The closest we’ve got to a title in the past 18 years was a 2 horse race we weren’t even participating in . In the UCL we’ve been to the final once and for 7 seasons in a row we didn’t make it past the RO16 with the last tie being a 10-2 massacre . So we have no divine right to think we deserve champions league football
You grew up when Arsenal always fight for titles, has Arsenal ever been consistent winning title? In England, Arsenal are 3rd best team behind United and Liverpool. Then City and Chelsea came along. It is either you are naive with your high expectation or just frustrated that we are falling behind. The latter seems more appropriate hence the reason ppl like u don't and never want to rate Arteta. Arteta is not your issue but the ownership.
Lee Gunner: the fans are partially at fault... STOP BUYING THEIR MERCHANDISES FFS!! Also LG : I LOVE THE YELLOW SHIRT, ooohhh I like that rubber material on the badge.... aaaah yesss 🤣😅🤣
One is true fan with up/down emotion for better or worse! The other lee see the world black and white, egolistics, hatred, salty and abusive!! The manager can do no good to him!
How can a genuine Arsenal fan say he does not care if we get 4th. It would be massive to get 4th this season and would do wonder in our recruitment of quality players this summer. Speaks sense - give me strength. No I am not happy with 4th but the idea we can immediately transform the squad into a title winning team in under 2 seasons is madness. How long did it take Pepe and Klopp and in Pepe's case how much money did he spend? Like Judges I remember winning nothing for years and cried when we lost to Ipswich in the FA cup final - some of the 'fans' have only started to support The Arsenal when they were winning. And by the way blaming the Ozil situation on Arteta is simply wrong and unfair - it was a problem way before he was manager. What sums Gunner up is: Arteta's done nothing so is crap no matter what players he had to work with. Conte's done crap but you can't polish a turd. Gunner is not a genuine fan and is toxic to his core. Edit] Just for the record Gunner tells porky pies when he says here that he always thought this squad should get 4th. On his channel in a video on the 12 August he said he thought they would come 12th. Deceitful as well as toxic.
Why when Unai Emery was at the club, the aim was to get top 4 but with Arteta it’s to win the league title. And then he criticizes Arteta for having fall-outs with players that are the reason Emery lost his job. So with Arteta, Lee Gunner’s expectations are enhanced because he wants him to fail.
How is wanting Us (and him) to Win a League title 'wanting him to fail',, what?? Make it make sense. 🤣 And I don't know what you were on about with that other story. Emery got 5th so it was bye-bye. It's the same for all Our managers: get top4 quickly and then Win the League title relatively quickly like Liverpool the non-oil club did. Rivals may sit around on a beach tanning themselves waiting for Us to ''transition for 5 years'' in your World but in reality they don't, sorry to break that to you.
@@ALQOSHI Says the obsessed wall hugging slimeball slug that doesn't care if Haaland doesn't want to come to Our club. People like Lee will make more sense when he's tipsy than brainwashed bandits like you ever will with your 'team is happy and hugging together' short-sighted Barbie nonsense. Anti-Football merchants like you polluting our club need to jog off down the lane with your pathetic gutter standards. 🤡
Are you deluded he got us 8 th twice with the most spend, emery had more trophies in his CV got us in Europe finals knocked him out and made 5, with less money, so when did we assume our target is winning the league with arteta???
@@englishwithme9922 M8, it never ends with these fake delusional fans that can't see the true situation of Our club past Artetas rear end. It's like a mountain of hope to them lol.
I have come to the conclusion that playing good football it’s not necessarily going to win you titles, but being a winner is more important than important
Stop looking at the pixels..... The big picture is that nothing much has changed over 15 years. The club needs someone with balls to shake it up and start challenging for big trophies.
I can still recall paying just £3.50-£4.00 during the Don Howe manager era when the stadium was only half-full every week. That ticket price was fair for the type of football we were playing during the Eighties until George Graham took over and shook it all up. A pint of beer was roughly 50p in London at the same time to give a price comparison. No way are Arteta's Arsenal games worth the ticket prices today! It's daylight robbery!! PS. Great video. Lee spitting facts again.
That's interesting, I'm not a gooner however I remember paying a fiver in the early 90's, junior ticket prices. If my memory serves me right you guys beat Sheffield Wednesday 7-1🤔
Gunner and Potts are just spoilt babies man, crying over the manager. At least Judges can be adult about the situation, praise, critique and see long term visions regarding the club. The other 2 "I want to win the league and I want to win it tomorrow!! And if we don't Sack the manager, sack board, sack the fans cry cry cry". It's so embarrassing
The amount of people Lee Gunner triggers is insane 😂 yet most go back to his channel for more. The problem is you can't deal with him sharing his view and getting viewed, so you get in a hissy fit have to share your 2cents worth against him and try get some fans in the comments to chuck you a like. Lol.
My 3 favourite Arsenal fans, Just proving you can have a difference in opinion but still remain respectful alot of our fans need to take note and watch this. I agree especially with Lee Gunner we are out of all cups and nowhere near the league by January how is this acceptable, Finish 4th 20 points behind the winners isn't acceptable as an Arsenal fan.
Love all you lads👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great show, watching from new🥝🥝🥝🥝zealand, 🍺🍺🍺🍺 o’clock of a summers evening, thanks for the best arsenal content on the tube 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Youth project 😁. Good project, but by the time youth player show any sign of very good/consistent performance, they will be swooped by Man city, chelsea and liverpool. The wage structure of Arsenal won’t help too.
I really respect Lee J and Dan for doing this, getting out fanbase together instead of shaming each other is the way to go, managers and players will come and go, what remains is the club and the fans, stay united against corporate Arsenal!
Lee Gunner. I really think he total unrealistic, and I really question his understanding of football. It takes time to rebuild a club sustainably. And someone had to do the cleaning. Does Lee Gunner really think Pep or Klopp would have kept Øzil, Auba or Guendouzi. Never. Sorry. I can't see he is a Gunner-fan. He is just a hater.
@@chigozieagwuncha2166 It takes longer than two years. Lee Gunner had made his mind, even before MA got the job, and he we be Arteta out, simply because of it is MA. Or to say it differently, simply because it isn't an experienced manager. How long got Klopp? How long got Ferguerson? It took two years only to get rid of the deadwood. I'm happy we have a manager who want to set a standard for the Arsenal-players. For the wages the players gets, we have to demand seriousness. It's important. When players own the dressingroom (which has been the case with Arsenal), there is no way the change could take just a cuople of months. It take time. It is diffucult for me to understand why this is is so hard to understand. It's obvious. Yes, MA has done a lot of things I'm disagreeing, but he has done a lot of good things, and he is clearly improving. I am Arteta in for now. I really can't see why I should think differently
Lee Judges is not so much of a flip flop, he's more inconsistent and emotional in his state of mind when it comes to Arteta. Question. Is Arteta good enough, id so no, If we finish below 6th again then that will show he aint it.
@@billyferaldy Billy we are not playing well. We beat Wolves but before than we have been beaten by City, Notts Forest, Liverpool, and drew with Burnley. That is not playing well.
@@ismarcus00500 we are playing well, the stats shows it, we are currently 4th best in almost every metrics (xG, clean sheets, etc). We have the second most clean sheets just behind the current leader City, some of the performances have been brilliant (Southampton, West Ham, Leeds, even City). Of course the team is still inconsistent, it might be down to the youth in the team and our strikers aren't clinical enough, at Brighton we were outplayed but we had a chance to score had ESR square the ball, Burnley Laca missed a sitter, Everton we shouldn't lost if Nketiah and Auba took his chance, we should win at Emirates against City if Xhaka didn't give away a stupid penalty, against United we shouldn't lost, of course its all hypothetical but its based on evidence that we are creating chances,we defending well, and we are more resolute. Hence why we need reinforcements in the summer to kick on.
@@billyferaldy Lets see where we end up at the end of the season because drawing with Burnley, being knocked out the cups and failure to beat the top teams is not playing well to me. Results matter, not form. We need wins and not settling for the mindset of playing well which is not enough.
I do agree with Lee Gunner, the target for ARSENAL need to be challenging for the no.1 spot, that should be the standard for a big club. The same thing was asked to Conte, see his response.
@@tayeebhussain5014 Look at your profile pic kid, you've never even been to an Arsenal game before lol. Your nothing but a plastic Arsenal fan, who believes there entitled to success
Lee is a waffler Jusdges that is 6 months ago you made a video saying arteta out now And now we must get behind the manager No make your decisions and let people make theirs Damn you have no credit to tell us how to support this club, when you are always changing your mind
@@Jo-jf8bb changing your mind is not the problem, The problem is that he said you must back the manager, when he knows that there are reasons why people won't back the manager, a manager he wanted out just 6 months ago
@GTA 6776didn't see that, but Lee says a lot of trash,sometimes he says sensible things , but he is the only one I have seen that has been consistent on arteta
@@anjolatope-babalola2338 and he said arteta and Arsenal will finish between 8-10 and have no chance in finishing top 4 and here we are about to get back into the champions league and u still won’t hear him say arsenal are doing well I wonder why 🙄
@@Jo-jf8bbI don't know about you, Because when they play well he says it He does not have to back arteta, it's his choice And yes lee says trash, the sun shines, Ps People look at the table and only see those above us, and not those behind us, we are closer to 8 than we are to 4, we are very close to 9th Can we get top 4, yesssss, but I would rather we be calm and take each game as it goes , make sure we win all our games.
Surely LGs mental health must dwindle every year that arsenal aren't winning the league and the champion league double when he thinks our squad can compete with citys but arteta is holding us back from that feat year on year
@@FatTodd key word "build", builds take time but they also need annual big time investment (like 500mill a summer) to keep up to speed with city's spend. PLUS city are already close to 10 years infront with development, player unity, tactics, and squad depth. Sometimes our fan base needs a reality check and this year getting 4th would be huge progress
@@davepettingzoo9891 nah if you gave that money to a potter, ten hag, conte, tuchel we would no doubt have a better team and higher chance of success but look arteta ain’t doing so bad as of now so ima just wait and see. Anything less than 4th or a very tight 5th spot and I want him gone as should you. When a contractor is taking the piss building something just fuck them off and get a better one in to finish the job
You’ve got to love Lee Judges - always passionate and genuine. The chav though is just spinning BS out of his a**. His whole social media strategy is based on slagging off the club and the coach, no matter what they do or don’t. His only objective is to troll his way to clicks and £.I bet he begged Lee J to give him a platform and air time to try and crawl out of irrelevance.
When Lee Judges said we can’t compete Financially how are Liverpool doing it then ? We don’t spend anywhere close to City but with our good recruitment and scouts we buy players under their value at clubs and turn them into superstars?? Mo Salah 33 mil? Mane 30 mil? Diaz for 50 mil will look like Peanuts and Jota 45 mi is about 70 -80 mil now
there is huge misconception around Emery's departure, Emery didn't leave because he got 4th or lost EL, it's because at the middle of the season he lost dressing room, losing not just in PL but all competitions(almost got knocked from EL group stage) and on top of that the Emirates was so toxic that was unbearable for the team to preform, I dont think Ive ever seen such a toxic crowed in Emery's last days, I wonder what lee wants from Arsenal fans, to turn toxic again? to boo the players the manager make it unbearable to work there? I don't think how successful clubs operate but surely that is just wrong way of being a fan
Lee Gunner’s top standards and lack of mediocre complacency is the last thread that can save the club. We need Lee Gunner’s voice heard around the world. 🙏🏾 #makearsenalgreatagain
The same guy who doesn't rate any of our signings says we should be challenging for the league this season with the same players.. make it make sense!!!
I think his point is the £150m should have been spent more wisely, to be in a position to challenge.
* 5:40 Not under this manager We have now you air head!! Lol, do you even understand English?? And he didn't even exactly say that, are you fabricating on here like a 12 year old on a boring wind-up?
A new manager would make the *required changes. Grow up, honestly lol.
He’ll never make sense he’s a donkey
Great debate, can see things both sides.. LG sticks to his guns and that's fair enough and somethings you can't argue with . But also agree with LJ that there's nothing wrong with celebrating a win and that doesn't mean you're accepting mediocrity.. Its just celebrating that particular win. Let's face it we need something to celebrate
Judges also said he dont think arteta is good enough to win the title why would you back that? Lol
But that's basically whittling down to the level of a club like Everton or Norwich. ''Happy'' at the fleeting wins or 'what comes by'.
There's no Good target, there's 0 aim and ambition towards a bigger picture; it's small-time and casual. I love Arsenal forever and I wake up a happier person each day win or lose because I support the club I do so deeply. But that doesn't mean I have to *trust any corporate vehicle or management at our club because they say 'nice stuff'. I'm most happy I have sense to realise this.
@@steven.1983 Judges doesn’t hire the managers so all he can do is support who’s there.
I think we can all come to the definite conclusion after watching this video that Lee > Lee
Which Lee?
@@igkhdigkhd8760 Judges >
Lee gunner in a debate is like Thierry with the long sleeves and gloves 🤣
Love this comment 😂. I’d go a step further and say it’s like Vieira with the Vapor Rub on his shirt
Lee gunner Hands down . Most real fan out there. More people need to be like him.
Hahaha you are so deluded
loved this debate, please give us more of this in the future. 3 top blokes
Missiongamer Proof?
Missiongamer When and what show?
Missiongamer Do you not have a link to some footage of this?
Missiongamer When? and weird that Kenny Ken is fine with Gunner and is a regular on his channel
@@missiongamer4494 Honestly, do get a life. You can't be _this_ bored, lol. 😂
LEE GUNNER.. want to see the team get beat because he don’t like Arteta.The boy can’t see no positive in the team.
Yet that Bellend slated Ramsdale when we got him. Never ever heard him say a good word about Arsenal. Calls himself a supporter
Most Arsenal fans weren't in favour of the Ramsdale move, news flash all football fans are wrong from time to time don't make anyone less of a supporter and maybe you should watch more of LG content cause he has said good things about Arsenal but there's not really much good to talk about Arsenal these days if we're being honest which sums up why he is the way he is
Supported arsenal since 1974. Between then and 1989, saw them win 3 cups. On Lee’s analysis, I should be supporting Chelsea
@@trevlac2000 No, on Lee's analysis, you'd still be supporting Terry Neill to stay as manager.
@@Handleoff1 Don’t be silly now. The point that Lee said he’d seen 5 titles, does not entitle him, me, you or anyone else the right when we see another one. Enjoy the ride and when it gets bumpy, pretend you’re riding the bumper cars. Up the gooners
@Round 1 😂 You're honestly attention-deprived. Everything's definitely not alright at home for you to be so shaken to the core by someone's views online - seek medical sessions you total $iberian weapon. And don't ever call yourself an Arsenal fan; a pathetic simpleton washout like you belongs to drying the tea lady's laundry and cleaning the showers at Spuds.
Lee Gunner makes no sense. I am an ArtetaOut and I still think he makes no sense and I mostly disagree with him
you don't make sense
@Abolfazl Shadow agree with you, I’m also Arteta out, According to Lee Gunner every problem in Arsenal is because of Arteta
Hopefully this becomes a weekly show.
Hopefully it doesnt
Not every week
@@nexis1293 Your tears are strong. 😂🍼
@@netweed09 What tears, everyone knows lee gunner is a bellend
Lee Gunner is just kicking the club during a rebuild period, no sensible fan would expect a title challenge during a transitional period
Respectfully when was the last time Arsenal even challenged for the title? If we challenged for a few years in the last What 15+ years and now the club is asking for patience cause of this transitional period then it would be forgivable but transitional periods have been an excuse for years now, surely having a problem with that isn't kicking the club🤔
@@Jacoc323 15/16 we challenged, lack of clinical striker cost us
Acac hala If you wanna call that a challenge you can but we finished 10 points behind them and I swear we only nicked 2nd on the last day of the season
If Lee gunner really thinks they could have chosen to be title challengers in any way after emery🤣🤣🤣🤣...you can see the bollocks he is speaking
Lee Gunner sees things in very black and white terms; the world has many shades of grey in between. He cannot see anything positive with the current team. I'm not an Arteta fan but we should should be aware that a broken clock is correct twice a day
So just accept shit then?
So just accept mediocrity then yeah ?
Well said mate, complete fraud
look at these lee gunner fanboys coming at you🤣
@@martincolton32 how can you not see they're building something with youth?
It’s not negative to want to win a title. Right now, it’s unrealistic!!
Great show boys, good to see lee gunner on the link up. He was pretty chill though, the Spanish sun had him in a good mood! It's all about THE ARSENAL!
Good. And hopefully not about Arteta at all when he gets dismissed if he fails Us top4 this season!!
The fact you want to win the league is positive but unrealistic. To say 4th isn't good enough given our finishing posititon in the last 2 years is very much negative. We aren't just accepting top 4, we trying to reach an attainable target that (fingers crossed) will enable us to attract biggier & better players.
So if a coach joins a club and regresses it for 2 years straight, wastes over 200mil and loses even more falling out with players especially on re-sale, makes more mistakes in that time then most managers would in 20years.... not to mention losing to our previous manager who had a 15mil squad....... is all good because he is getting back to a stage where the club already was before he got there? That's progress? 🤔🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ delusional.... the bloke is rubbish....
Season still not over either... even with Man U and Tottenham in a mess we will still finish outside the top 4....
Wake up mate... we got a novice Natzi in charge on job experience... this is ARSENAL FC 3rd biggest club in the country... not McDonald's FC...
we got better players on loan then we do at the club.... make it make sense... lol
So it's not unrealistic at all... even if we still had Emery and he had been backed the way this tit has been we would be in the mix for 2nd and 3rd with Chelsea and Liverpool on our way to challenging for the league next season with more summer backing and actually attract top players... noone wants to play under this flop now...
top 4 would of been pretty much guaranteed.
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u your judgement is clouded with hate.
1. We finished 8th the last two years. Id hardly call that regression - considering the massive change the club had to go through of getting dead wood out of the club. We were never going to win anything with that squad of ageing players especially our defence.
2. Resale of players isn't artetas fault. This has been an issue at the club prior to him taking charge.
3. He has made fewer mistakes than Emery and has a squad of players who are willing to fight each match for him. Emery was not going to get us to champions league or a title win. Look at emery's performance in la liga.... hardly impressive. The guy can't make the top six and you think he would be in the mix of 2nd and 3rd?
5. Failing to see how we have wasted 200m. Its the 200m investment that has put us in a race for top 4 - something we all didnt see coming. This time last year we were sitting outside the top 10
@@richsatti7086 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤣🤣 mate you are a lost cause... completely delusional.... keep making excuses and manipulating things to suit your emotional bias, taking in what you want to take in and ignoring what suits you...
They'll continue the fuckery for another 18 years with fans like you around..... lol shocking...
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u U are easily the lost cause and full of hatred for a young manager trying to do what he thought is best for the club. Get on board or get lost....same for lee gunner!!
@@user-oi4bj4cv7u "ignoring what suits you" Isn't that what you guys do? Arteta haters? Stop folleing lee gunner and you'll ve healthier
Fantastic hearing the two debate with different opinions but not get toxic with one another like other fans do. Would love to see a weekly segment with both Lee's on each others channel's.
I can’t hold my tongue. LG is deluded saying he’s not negative. He wants us to lose so Arteta gets the sack. What a supporter he is. His vendetta against Arteta is bigger than his love of Arsenal. Or more to the point he loves the attention that gives him and his channel. Fake fan.
Bro the guy wore a mahrez shirt when we played city.. he hasn’t put a single penny into his channel still got the same rat in the corner from 2 year ago fs he’s robbing a living 😂
the more people realize this the better.
Well said but don’t you think he’s a Chelsea fan
While I understand LJ point of view of Arteta critics been harsh, I also thinks LJ been clouded by the Wenger/Fergie era of trusting long term projects. Arsenal is not progressing as much as fans hoped for.
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Either we like it or not Arsenal is improving massively in term of our 11 eleven but I can do more I know that
Great content lad’s!Make this happen again!1❤️👊🏾
Great show guys 👏 Need to make a show with the three of you together a regular
Lee Gunner should consider that Arteta inherited a depleted squad, and he had to restore Arsenal's identity both on and off the field, don't forget that it took Klopp 3 and half years to win a trophy for Liverpool, people should be patient with Arteta because has been more competitive than in the 80s or whatever the case maybe, Lee Gunner doesn't like Arteta irregardless of what he does
Well this is Arteta's 3rd year and he's not going to win Champions League is he? that's what Klopp did so by comparing him with Klopp you're saying the standards are to qualify for UCL this season and win it next year, right?
Emery had a worse squad but still competed. Y can't cone boy do the same 🤷♂️
I dont see arteta as being competitive
Do this every week please. Something different from the same faces we keep seeing
No please don't do it every week, most people can't stand lee gunner
@@nexis1293 Well looking at this comment section it seems like you're wrong lol
@@nexis1293 arteta sexuals dont like hik coz he speaks the truth
@@PEEMZEE Most likely lee gunners burners accounts, he's already been exposed on twitter's and youtube for using them
@@steven.1983 And the Arteta outers love him because most are rival fans lol
100% arteta has his favourites I Don't think he makes decisions for the best of the club but rather for himself clear enough to see he got no man management
Watched on playback
Well done gentlemen
Your Vieira is doing well at my Palace
I’m hopeful Pat will guide his 🦅s
Up the league & deliver our first FA Cup 🙏
I think a lot of Gooners are rooting for Palace because of the Vieira connection. Would love to know what do the Palace fans think of him atm? Are the majority happy with him and what have been the main criticisms of him?
Vieira is the best
Good debate.proper.not all sugar coated nonsense. Can all have different views.
We'll give this lot some Lee way.....
Lee Gunner needs to follow Bayern Munich, PSG or City. He will only accept 1st? The guys just being negative for the sake of views, I thought he had some good points but he also has mostly bad ones. He is moaning about the level of signings, then moaning we want to get into the top 4 in order to attract better players.
Lee Gunner out!
Why?
Lee judges and dan all day m8👌
I absolutely love these two guys! Both make great points. All I know is I’m gonna support my team through better or worse.
You’re a donkey mate anyone that follows this Lee gunner clown is also a donkey he’s not even an arsenal fan
Spurs fans speak better about Arsenal than Lee does 🙄
Yeah we should accept 8th 😂
@@arsenalfan5172 who is in 8th?
You complain too much Mr.gunner.what has conte done to spurs?Arsenal problem is entirely boards and owner,can't blame arteta always
lee does give praise when its due
This link-up has to happen more often thank you guys 👌💯👏
LG why don’t you go and support some other team and get that chip off your shoulder about Arteta.
? Lol, imagine being so triggered, after attention and delusional to put this rookie in front of Our club.
Tell me you're a fake fan without telling me you're a fake fan. 🤡
Lee's dead wrong when it comes to this squad being top 4 standard (last summer or at present). Spurs and United have better players... and that's not to excuse Arteta, who is partly responsible for that.
Ok, I'm listening. Well, the ''deAD wrongg'' bit was a bit dramatic but then you started to take on some sense at least.
So, what is the plan then? And how long? Long enough for Chelski to win another CL on Us or Manure to recover to top4 properly in front of our noses? I hope not! What's your view on Us getting a player like Haaland? Up for it, or do you think he's bigger than Our club and ''we cannot do it''?
We're not Arsenal's fans, but we're just here to greet you guys and wish you an awesome Sunday.
Gunner is like me, we have the highest expectations because we grew up during a time when Arsenal always fought for titles.
The closest we’ve got to a title in the past 18 years was a 2 horse race we weren’t even participating in . In the UCL we’ve been to the final once and for 7 seasons in a row we didn’t make it past the RO16 with the last tie being a 10-2 massacre . So we have no divine right to think we deserve champions league football
You grew up when Arsenal always fight for titles, has Arsenal ever been consistent winning title?
In England, Arsenal are 3rd best team behind United and Liverpool. Then City and Chelsea came along. It is either you are naive with your high expectation or just frustrated that we are falling behind.
The latter seems more appropriate hence the reason ppl like u don't and never want to rate Arteta. Arteta is not your issue but the ownership.
Could listen to these 3 all day! Proper Arsenal boyz talking nothing but sense.
Can’t believe you’ve given this guy a platform.
Lee Gunner: the fans are partially at fault... STOP BUYING THEIR MERCHANDISES FFS!!
Also LG : I LOVE THE YELLOW SHIRT, ooohhh I like that rubber material on the badge.... aaaah yesss 🤣😅🤣
Totally agree with Lee judges! Spot on bro 👍👊
I love both Lees , very different but both honest 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
One is true fan with up/down emotion for better or worse! The other lee see the world black and white, egolistics, hatred, salty and abusive!! The manager can do no good to him!
Only person LG likes is himself
How can a genuine Arsenal fan say he does not care if we get 4th. It would be massive to get 4th this season and would do wonder in our recruitment of quality players this summer. Speaks sense - give me strength. No I am not happy with 4th but the idea we can immediately transform the squad into a title winning team in under 2 seasons is madness. How long did it take Pepe and Klopp and in Pepe's case how much money did he spend? Like Judges I remember winning nothing for years and cried when we lost to Ipswich in the FA cup final - some of the 'fans' have only started to support The Arsenal when they were winning. And by the way blaming the Ozil situation on Arteta is simply wrong and unfair - it was a problem way before he was manager.
What sums Gunner up is:
Arteta's done nothing so is crap no matter what players he had to work with.
Conte's done crap but you can't polish a turd.
Gunner is not a genuine fan and is toxic to his core.
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Just for the record Gunner tells porky pies when he says here that he always thought this squad should get 4th. On his channel in a video on the 12 August he said he thought they would come 12th.
Deceitful as well as toxic.
3 of my favourites. Can’t believe it took me this long to find and watch this video.
Why when Unai Emery was at the club, the aim was to get top 4 but with Arteta it’s to win the league title. And then he criticizes Arteta for having fall-outs with players that are the reason Emery lost his job. So with Arteta, Lee Gunner’s expectations are enhanced because he wants him to fail.
How is wanting Us (and him) to Win a League title 'wanting him to fail',, what?? Make it make sense. 🤣
And I don't know what you were on about with that other story. Emery got 5th so it was bye-bye. It's the same for all Our managers: get top4 quickly and then Win the League title relatively quickly like Liverpool the non-oil club did. Rivals may sit around on a beach tanning themselves waiting for Us to ''transition for 5 years'' in your World but in reality they don't, sorry to break that to you.
Lee gunner just goes against everything he just targets a certain donkey type of audience
@@ALQOSHI Says the obsessed wall hugging slimeball slug that doesn't care if Haaland doesn't want to come to Our club. People like Lee will make more sense when he's tipsy than brainwashed bandits like you ever will with your 'team is happy and hugging together' short-sighted Barbie nonsense.
Anti-Football merchants like you polluting our club need to jog off down the lane with your pathetic gutter standards. 🤡
Are you deluded he got us 8 th twice with the most spend, emery had more trophies in his CV got us in Europe finals knocked him out and made 5, with less money, so when did we assume our target is winning the league with arteta???
@@englishwithme9922 M8, it never ends with these fake delusional fans that can't see the true situation of Our club past Artetas rear end. It's like a mountain of hope to them lol.
I have come to the conclusion that playing good football it’s not necessarily going to win you titles, but being a winner is more important than important
Stop looking at the pixels..... The big picture is that nothing much has changed over 15 years. The club needs someone with balls to shake it up and start challenging for big trophies.
Well done guys, let’s do a stream like this on Lee Gunner’s channel. Big up the team
I can still recall paying just £3.50-£4.00 during the Don Howe manager era when the stadium was only half-full every week. That ticket price was fair for the type of football we were playing during the Eighties until George Graham took over and shook it all up. A pint of beer was roughly 50p in London at the same time to give a price comparison. No way are Arteta's Arsenal games worth the ticket prices today! It's daylight robbery!!
PS. Great video. Lee spitting facts again.
That's interesting, I'm not a gooner however I remember paying a fiver in the early 90's, junior ticket prices.
If my memory serves me right you guys beat Sheffield Wednesday 7-1🤔
I think Judges got the better of that tussle.
Alllllll day
Gunner and Potts are just spoilt babies man, crying over the manager. At least Judges can be adult about the situation, praise, critique and see long term visions regarding the club. The other 2 "I want to win the league and I want to win it tomorrow!! And if we don't Sack the manager, sack board, sack the fans cry cry cry". It's so embarrassing
Great show, very enjoyable
The two Lees. That's interesting 🙂
Two legends. Love to see it. Class video.
The amount of people Lee Gunner triggers is insane 😂 yet most go back to his channel for more. The problem is you can't deal with him sharing his view and getting viewed, so you get in a hissy fit have to share your 2cents worth against him and try get some fans in the comments to chuck you a like. Lol.
Funniest haters I've seen on UA-cam, they disappear for weeks and only turn up when Arsenal win
@@RafaelSantos-di5yw 100% Facts
Wow what a link up!
My 3 favourite Arsenal fans, Just proving you can have a difference in opinion but still remain respectful alot of our fans need to take note and watch this. I agree especially with Lee Gunner we are out of all cups and nowhere near the league by January how is this acceptable, Finish 4th 20 points behind the winners isn't acceptable as an Arsenal fan.
Love all you lads👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 great show, watching from new🥝🥝🥝🥝zealand, 🍺🍺🍺🍺 o’clock of a summers evening, thanks for the best arsenal content on the tube 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Youth project 😁. Good project, but by the time youth player show any sign of very good/consistent performance, they will be swooped by Man city, chelsea and liverpool. The wage structure of Arsenal won’t help too.
Lee Gunner , you wanted Ozil out!!
Yes because he was dead lol
I really respect Lee J and Dan for doing this, getting out fanbase together instead of shaming each other is the way to go, managers and players will come and go, what remains is the club and the fans, stay united against corporate Arsenal!
Don't talk shit, lee gunner is the biggest piece of crap when it come to shaming people
Potts and Gunner the 2 realists.
Lee Gunner. I really think he total unrealistic, and I really question his understanding of football. It takes time to rebuild a club sustainably.
And someone had to do the cleaning. Does Lee Gunner really think Pep or Klopp would have kept Øzil, Auba or Guendouzi. Never.
Sorry. I can't see he is a Gunner-fan. He is just a hater.
Lol. Can Arteta get another 5 years to continue this "rebuild?"
Is that why we won a trophy ?
@@chigozieagwuncha2166 It takes longer than two years. Lee Gunner had made his mind, even before MA got the job, and he we be Arteta out, simply because of it is MA. Or to say it differently, simply because it isn't an experienced manager.
How long got Klopp? How long got Ferguerson?
It took two years only to get rid of the deadwood. I'm happy we have a manager who want to set a standard for the Arsenal-players. For the wages the players gets, we have to demand seriousness. It's important.
When players own the dressingroom (which has been the case with Arsenal), there is no way the change could take just a cuople of months. It take time.
It is diffucult for me to understand why this is is so hard to understand. It's obvious.
Yes, MA has done a lot of things I'm disagreeing, but he has done a lot of good things, and he is clearly improving. I am Arteta in for now. I really can't see why I should think differently
Great video guys 👍
Brilliant podcast.
Lee Gunner said it all for me!! Spot on!!
Quality debate love to see a part 2 After the season is ended
...and Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins?! Seriously?! That's with whom we want to entrust out aspirations?! Fucking hell...
As an arsenal fan this was a great watch hopefully more of these to come
Spurs fan here in peace. This was a very interesting chat, have to say it is hard to disagree with a lot of the comments that Lee Gunner puts forward.
great debate guys, really good
This did not disappoint. Amazing show. Would love to see more Lee Gunner on the channel in the future.
Lee Judges is not so much of a flip flop, he's more inconsistent and emotional in his state of mind when it comes to Arteta.
Question. Is Arteta good enough, id so no, If we finish below 6th again then that will show he aint it.
Arteta needs to come top 4 or get sacked simple
Of course if is the key word. The season is not finish and we are currently on the race, and we are playing well.
@@billyferaldy Billy we are not playing well. We beat Wolves but before than we have been beaten by City, Notts Forest, Liverpool, and drew with Burnley. That is not playing well.
@@ismarcus00500 we are playing well, the stats shows it, we are currently 4th best in almost every metrics (xG, clean sheets, etc). We have the second most clean sheets just behind the current leader City, some of the performances have been brilliant (Southampton, West Ham, Leeds, even City). Of course the team is still inconsistent, it might be down to the youth in the team and our strikers aren't clinical enough, at Brighton we were outplayed but we had a chance to score had ESR square the ball, Burnley Laca missed a sitter, Everton we shouldn't lost if Nketiah and Auba took his chance, we should win at Emirates against City if Xhaka didn't give away a stupid penalty, against United we shouldn't lost, of course its all hypothetical but its based on evidence that we are creating chances,we defending well, and we are more resolute. Hence why we need reinforcements in the summer to kick on.
@@billyferaldy Lets see where we end up at the end of the season because drawing with Burnley, being knocked out the cups and failure to beat the top teams is not playing well to me. Results matter, not form. We need wins and not settling for the mindset of playing well which is not enough.
I think you should have yardman an lee Gunner on the same show
The After- and Before Lee show . There!! Make it work😉🙂
Really good video
I do agree with Lee Gunner, the target for ARSENAL need to be challenging for the no.1 spot, that should be the standard for a big club. The same thing was asked to Conte, see his response.
It's took Liverpool 30 years to win the league again don't forget that
Fantastic show both Lees were on point.
Your just as embarrassing as lee gunner
@@nexis1293 Trusty the process 🤣🤣🤣
@@tayeebhussain5014 Fake arsenal fan
@@nexis1293 Trusty the process keep believing in this fake process its probably just as fake as you lol
@@tayeebhussain5014 Look at your profile pic kid, you've never even been to an Arsenal game before lol. Your nothing but a plastic Arsenal fan, who believes there entitled to success
Lee gunner (always finds a easy way to get out of the heat)
Great show lads. 3 top geezers 👍
Lee is a waffler
Jusdges that is
6 months ago you made a video saying arteta out now
And now we must get behind the manager
No make your decisions and let people make theirs
Damn you have no credit to tell us how to support this club, when you are always changing your mind
He’s see that it’s working nothing wrong with changing your mind
@@Jo-jf8bb changing your mind is not the problem,
The problem is that he said you must back the manager, when he knows that there are reasons why people won't back the manager, a manager he wanted out just 6 months ago
@GTA 6776didn't see that, but Lee says a lot of trash,sometimes he says sensible things , but he is the only one I have seen that has been consistent on arteta
@@anjolatope-babalola2338 and he said arteta and Arsenal will finish between 8-10 and have no chance in finishing top 4 and here we are about to get back into the champions league and u still won’t hear him say arsenal are doing well I wonder why 🙄
@@Jo-jf8bbI don't know about you,
Because when they play well he says it
He does not have to back arteta, it's his choice
And yes lee says trash, the sun shines,
Ps
People look at the table and only see those above us, and not those behind us, we are closer to 8 than we are to 4, we are very close to 9th
Can we get top 4, yesssss, but I would rather we be calm and take each game as it goes , make sure we win all our games.
Lee gunners he's a waste of time he has nothing good to say about Arsenal and Arteta
LEE GUNNER SHOULD SUPPORT SPURS
You should Google 'Failure' and get educated
@@Carlin-qt4jk you should as for common sense and get some
@@radcliffebroomes9531 You should ask your teacher to give you some more spelling lessons
@@Carlin-qt4jk your mum could do the job! 🤡
Lee Gunner is so toxic I can't stand him
You dropped these. 🧠🍼
Lee Judges should be renamed Lee 'Agree' btw
Lee judges 1 - 0 Lee gunner
Lee judges and dan all day, lee gunner no chance
Surely LGs mental health must dwindle every year that arsenal aren't winning the league and the champion league double when he thinks our squad can compete with citys but arteta is holding us back from that feat year on year
No he thinks that if we had a proper manager given the funds arteta had we would have been able to build it
@@FatTodd key word "build", builds take time but they also need annual big time investment (like 500mill a summer) to keep up to speed with city's spend. PLUS city are already close to 10 years infront with development, player unity, tactics, and squad depth.
Sometimes our fan base needs a reality check and this year getting 4th would be huge progress
@@davepettingzoo9891 nah if you gave that money to a potter, ten hag, conte, tuchel we would no doubt have a better team and higher chance of success but look arteta ain’t doing so bad as of now so ima just wait and see. Anything less than 4th or a very tight 5th spot and I want him gone as should you. When a contractor is taking the piss building something just fuck them off and get a better one in to finish the job
This guy is never an arsenal fan
Couldn’t get past lee gunner talking for 2 minutes. He’s impossible to listen to.
You’ve got to love Lee Judges - always passionate and genuine.
The chav though is just spinning BS out of his a**. His whole social media strategy is based on slagging off the club and the coach, no matter what they do or don’t. His only objective is to troll his way to clicks and £.I bet he begged Lee J to give him a platform and air time to try and crawl out of irrelevance.
When Lee Judges said we can’t compete Financially how are Liverpool doing it then ? We don’t spend anywhere close to City but with our good recruitment and scouts we buy players under their value at clubs and turn them into superstars?? Mo Salah 33 mil? Mane 30 mil? Diaz for 50 mil will look like Peanuts and Jota 45 mi is about 70 -80 mil now
I have lee gunners mindset but judges patience lol
there is huge misconception around Emery's departure, Emery didn't leave because he got 4th or lost EL, it's because at the middle of the season he lost dressing room, losing not just in PL but all competitions(almost got knocked from EL group stage) and on top of that the Emirates was so toxic that was unbearable for the team to preform, I dont think Ive ever seen such a toxic crowed in Emery's last days, I wonder what lee wants from Arsenal fans, to turn toxic again? to boo the players the manager make it unbearable to work there? I don't think how successful clubs operate but surely that is just wrong way of being a fan
Great debate..curious to know if gunner taught we were shit at the end of last season, if so how is his target 1st this season😂
at this rate, lee gunner should just play the football himself!
How you could win the title over night?!!!!
If you spent £1500 on a season ticket or actually went to a game then your opinion maybe valid.
Ask Chelsea
@@RafaelSantos-di5yw Radcliffe has unsubscribed and was last seen shaking his head in disbelief...
@@Carlin-qt4jk haha
@@Carlin-qt4jk you sound stupid boss
Lee judges , you have destroyed your reputation by bringing this clown on
Lee Gunner’s top standards and lack of mediocre complacency is the last thread that can save the club. We need Lee Gunner’s voice heard around the world. 🙏🏾 #makearsenalgreatagain