It's 325 A.D. and now it's official, after much debate, Athanasius won the day. While this was a major setback for those who embraced the original Jewish tenants as taught by the Messiah and His Apostles, this was a notable win for the Greek minded gentiles that influenced the church. Authors Anthony F. Buzzard and Charles F. Hunting state, “The Greek philosophically-minded Alexandrian theologians, led by Athanasius, won the day. Those more under the earlier influence of Jewish monotheism were defeated. Dissenters who refused to sign the agreement were immediately banished. The Church was now taken over and dictated to by theologians strongly influenced by the Greek mind… ‘When the Greek mind and the Roman mind, instead of the Hebrew mind, came to dominate the Church, there occurred a disaster from which the Church has never recovered, either in doctrine or practice’” (The Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 151-152).
I'd hardly call a forced debate under threat of death and banishment by a Roman emperor, simply to United dentine by force, "a win." They took over the church by force. Saying that a particular deceived person's perspective "won the day" gives it the appearance of a legitimate debate, won by reason and humility.
The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture. Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one." 1. God is the Father 2. God is also the son. 3. God is also the Holy Spirit 4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being 5. God is also the Divine Nature More than one definition of god is another god. All of these are claimed to be "one god." That simply means they are all part of one group called "god." More than one person as god is more than one god. It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism. It's idolatry. They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture. It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
Had the sell-outs not come to Nicea to begin with--and since only 25% of the existing assemblies sent representatives--it wouldn't have been a thing--neither would Sunday keeping or Easter. This is barely different than the rout of Israel at Ai.
This teaching is a breath of fresh air. I’ve come out of Christianity and the indoctrination that I sat under for at least 27 years. I no longer believe in the Trinity, I understand Torah more clearly as I stepped away from Christmas, Easter and Sunday worship.
I agree with this teaching. We all who believe in an unholy Trinity are called cults by the deceived but Hallelyah to The Most High for leading us out of this unholy teaching
The fact the trinitarian church and state united with rome or all the kingdoms of the world controlled by satan and then killed millions of non trinitarian Christians should be enough that the trinity is the doctrine of the nicolaitains which Jesus Christ hates because it was the non trinitarian Christian laity that they were trying to conquer
Wow the influence of the Roman and Greek pagan belief and traditions incorporated after the death of the original disciples and apostles that Paul wrote and warned about to the early Churches of God in Corinth and other places. Thank you to this Ministry.
Dear Brother, you have no idea how much I appreciate listening to you speak about this topic. Very much indeed!!! I was gloriously born into the kingdom of God in 1979 and have read the Bible for many years, because I love the perfect God/Father , the perfect Son , and the perfect and Holy Spirit of Truth. I never actually believed in the "trinity" and never felt the need to. I do not even believe in the " church" but the eclesia is an amazing reality to me. So thankful that THEY all called me out of this kingdom of darkness into the KINGDOM OF GOD, after all that is the destination for people who desire to live eternally in His presence. Amen and Hallelujah!!! ❤
Trinity.. no. Triunity ... yes. Genesis says “ come let US make man in OUR image.” Elohim is plural. Multiple manifestations of God. Jesus is God as it says in John 1. “ the Word was God.. through him all things were created.” Yahshua became man and dwelt among us. Clearly scripture says Yahshua was God in the flesh. He is called Emanuel meaning “ God with us”. If you deny this then you are NOT a Christian!! The Pharisees wanted to stone Yahshua because he claimed the same authority as God. He claimed he could forgive sins. Who can forgive sins other than God? Huh? Please YRM you must look at Hebrew word meanings and not just Greek. God In 3 manifestations NOT 3 persons.
Did Yahusha say all power in heaven and earth is given to him? He didn't say he always had it. To be given something, you could not have had it at first. Yahusha is the son of YAH so he is a God he is just not the supreme God. Look throughout the gospel. He constantly refers to his father as another.
I truly am trying to understand and question if what I have been taught lines up with scripture. As I was listening, I was reminded that the word tells us that His name will be called Immanuel (God is with us) which is found in Matthew 1: All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”). I believed I needed to share that for some reason. I also truly believe that not one of us can understand the word unless we humble ourselves and ask Him to help us understand and be present for the reading of His word. My prayer is that we will all come to an understanding in order to glorify God.
You have to view things in the spirit and not in flesh like the Catholic church teaches. The father, son and holly spirit are all in one meaning all act as one and so all are one. Jesus never claimed to be the father but of the father and like the father.
@@hopenotlost5848 I've been taught my entire life that that verse could be interpreted as evidence for the Trinity. It wasn't until I just read your comment that I saw a different understanding of it. "God is with us" does not give evidence that Yahusha (Jesus) is YAH (God). Instead, His birth and purpose proved YAH was still for them, still with them, and still had a plan. The meaning of the name speaks to hope more than anything else. It's not a reference to the Trinity.
I remember a Catholic UA-camr who was defending the church's decision at Nicea. He started off by saying that 800 bishops were invited and probably 300 showed up. The presence of 800 bishops tells me there s already a complex church hierarchy in place and they're debating the deity of Yeshua over 300 years after his death? Ding ding ding alarm bells should be going off in everyone's head.
TRINITARIAN Narrative got out of hand after the 2nd century, I'll prove it!!👇 "Clement" Greeted by "Paul" in, Philippians 4:3 Indeed, true companion, I ask you also, help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, alongside❌Clement as well as the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. Clement MENTIONED in Philp 4:3 had Apostolic procession & Ran the 1st church Rome from; 60-90AD till Martyred. Here's Clement: 1 Clement 59:4 "Let all the Gentiles know that 🫱Thou art the God alone, and 🫴Jesus Christ is Thy Son. Clement Mirrors Jesus watch: John 17:3 "Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the 🫱only true God, 🫴and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." Irenaeus~Against Heresies 3.6.4(180-200AD) Wherefore I do also call upon thee, Lord God of Abraham, and God of Isaac, and God of Jacob and Israel, who art the Father of our lord Jesus Christ, the God who, through the abundance of Thy mercy, hast had a favour towards us, that we should know Thee, Who hast made heaven and earth, who rulest over all, who art the 🫸"only and the true God"🫷 above whom there is none other God; Grant, by our🫴Lord Jesus Christ, the governing power of the Holy Spirit; give to every reader of this book to know Thee, that 🫱Thou art God alone, to be strengthened in Thee, And to "❌avoid every heretical, and godless, and impious doctrine".
The problem with this presentation is that everything you've presented has been solely based on appeal to mans beliefs. No where was scripture used to refute the claims of those who hold to the Triune God which is CLEARLY taught in scripture. Saying the word TRINITY doesn't show in the bible is like saying the word BIBLE doesn't appear in the scriptures. Trinity was a term coined as an attempt at best to describe the triune nature of God as believers were forced by the scriptures to reconcile the 3 distinct persons of the Godhead that are being illustrated throughout the bible. PROVERBS 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. There are many scriptures in the old and new testament that force us to reconcile the distinction of 3 persons depicted as 1 God. In MATTHEW 3:16 - 17 16 And when JESUS was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the SPIRIT of GOD descending like a dove and coming to rest on him. 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased" There is clearly 3 distinct descriptions of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit existing and interacting simultaneously. The Holy Spirit is referred to as HE not an it, or a force showing HIS distinct personhood. 1 CORINTHIANS 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same SPIRIT, WHO apportions to each one individually as HE WILLS. The Holy Spirit referred to as HE, distinguishing his personhood, furthermore in EPHESIANS 4:30 And do not GRIEVE the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. If he has no personhood why is HE grieving? Jesus states blasphemy against the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven MATTHEW 12:31 Jesus says he will send from the FATHER, the SPIRIT of TRUTH who proceeds from the Father, and HE will bear witness about Jesus JOHN 15:26 Jesus says if you don't believe that "I am he" you will die in your sins JOHN 8:24 I and the Father are one JOHN 10:30 ISAIAH 44:6 I am the first and the last, besides me there is no god. Then Jesus himself says this REVELATION 1:17 - 18 Fear not, I am the First & the last. Jesus stating he is YHWH and equal with the Father from his own mouth and is why he was crucified... John 5:18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself EQUAL with God. These are only a few of many passages throughout scripture that those who are opposed to the Triune God have to wrestle with and refute with scripture first before stating the trinity isn't biblical. Please people, read your bible and more importantly ask the Holy Spirit to lead and help you understand Gods truth while you read. You have to spend time to wrestle with who God is, if you truly want to begin to understand who he reveals himself to be. I pray all who read this have their eyes opened to the triune God of the bible, who is YHWH.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it... The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth... Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number... Elohim is not a trinity.. Yahshua (Jesus formerly the Word) was not created but did leave his glorious state to be created as a man... He spoke of himself while in human form as the 'Son of Man'... He spoke of his future self as the 'Comforter'... Elohim (Father and Son) are Holy Spirits who like a man and wife are as one... Elohim created their image as a male and female of flesh who procreate in their own image... Of course Elohim has no sexual nature or gender... God is two spirit beings who are as one...
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I HAVE STRUGGLED SINCE I WAS YOUNG BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN WHY I FELT SO OFF AT THE NUMEROUS CHURCHES I HAD WENT TOO AT THE TIME. NOW OLDER AND HAVING BEEN DOWN A NOT SO RIGHTEOUS, OBEDIENT ROAD IN MY LIFE. AS I HAVE SLOWLY BEGAN TO DISCOVER MYSELF AND PUT MY TIME ENERGY AND RESOURCES TOWARDS THE PURPOSE IM SUPPOSED TO HAVE, I WAS BLESSED IN STUMBLING UPON YOUR MINISTRY AND WORK. I HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED MY RSB PREMIUM FROM YOU GUYS AN THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING THE SMALLER VERSION TO CARRY AROUND. I STRUGGLE NOW HOWEVER WITH TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MY FAMILY MY FRIENDS AND JUST PEOPLE IN GENERAL ABOUT SOME OF OUR T "TRUE" HISTORY. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO EVEN GET PASSED THE FIRST TOPIC OR QUESTION BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS. IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO ON REGARDS TO SPREAD THIS TRUTH WITHOUT STRUGGLING WITH THE IGNORANCE THAT THEY HAVE IN BEING STUCK IN THERE WAYS? I ONLY WISH TO SHARE WHAT INFORMATION I HAVE BEEN BLESSED IN RESEARCHING AND LEARNING FROM YOUR MINISTRY. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SINCERELY DAVE.
Don't be discouraged. After 20+ years of understanding the truth, I still have friends and family that will not accept my (our) beliefs: the Name, seventh day Sabbath, Feast days, clean food laws, etc. I finally realized that there is little I can do to convince them but pray and provide an example by my actions. Also, keep studying and learning so that when you are asked questions you can answer them truthfully and believably. Yahweh will call them some day and they will either answer Him or not.
I found an interesting Text in the Bible regarding a place called "Ba'al Shalishah" (בעל שׁלשׁה) which literally means "triple lord" or "lord of threes." I'm wondering if this was an ancient Cana'anite place named after their triune god?
You are twisting yourselves into knots for no reason what so ever. Think of it like this.... #1 my wife calls me husband #2 my child calls me dad #3 my dad calls me son But I'm still William. If you think in finite human terms, you will get finite human answers. John 1:1 John 1:14 There are not 3. There is One. Our heavenly Father IS also the Son and IS also the Spirit. There's a reason Yahshua said "I AM".
you are simply referring to semantics. I would agree with you that God, Lord, Creator are different ways of describing the same thing, but you are mistaking in using the same rationale for the trinity. Jesus prayed to the father, the Holy Spirit came down on Jesus, etc -these are separate entities. Semantics can't be used as an explanation here
You have to view things in the spirit and not in flesh like the Catholic church teaches. The father, son and holly spirit are all in one meaning all act as one and so all are one. Jesus never claimed to be the father but of the father and like the father.
@@joseespinal3363 Jesus said the Father was greater than him. You can't be greater than yourself. Only the Father and the Holy Spirit are the same (With the Holy Spirit not being a separate person, it's just another name for God's spirit or God's nature), the Son is the son - he is NOT the same.
@@afroddy the Spirit of Jesus Christ, is the Holy Spirit, remember when Mary got pregnant it was through the Holy Spirit, and then the Holy Spirit (God) John 1:14 became into flesh, and the Scriptures says that the inmage, all deity of God (Holy Spirit) dwells physically in Jesus Christ, when He was in earth. Colossians 2:9 ESV 9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, Colossians 1:15-16 English Standard Version The Preeminence of Christ 15 He is the image of the invisible God, When Christ said the Father is greater than I, means His Spirit is greater than His flesh
The Spirit of Yahweh was with Yahweh in the beginning, his spirit descended on Yahshua after his baptism. Why do you think none around Him knew he was the Messiah until that time. Yahweh’s Holy Spirit is Yahweh’s son, why do you think Yahshua can’t send the spirit until after he has ascended? John said he gave Yahshua the spirit without measure. He manifested his Holy Spirit inside Yahshua, Yahshua was sinless or else he wouldn’t have had a “clean” body to go into. The same way as how demons can only enter in through sin, they can’t enter into anything holy, Yahweh can’t enter into sin. How do you think Yahshua speaks the words of the Father. How else would the father be in him and him in his father. The Holy Spirit is measured in the verse I spoke of above and in other verses, he gives his spirit by measure into those that deserve it. Yahshua was sinless and got a bunch of it. He sent it back into the world after he ascended, why else did he say a little while I’ll be with you and then a little while gone and then a little while be with you. Why do you think the apostles were able to do miracles? They were given the spirit by what measure they had faith and believed, they believed completely by the end and confessed it cause they said Yahshua spoke plainly and told them he was from the father. They’re complete belief was measured back to them in spirit. He plainly told us how it works. Now Yahshua is the Messiah and the son and sits on the throne with him. He is what God looks like. Why else would he say if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father, the Word which is Gods Holy Spirit that was hovering over the face of the deep became flesh. The word has manifested in angels and many other things to speak to people in the old and New Testament, and even came into the prophets bodies in there sleep and caused them to see visions, that’s how he spoke to us, until finally there was one without sin and he could manifest completely in the flesh in a sinless human body to come speak to us plainly. Now was Yahshua with Gods spirit in him the whole time? I’m sure he was, but after the baptizing I think he really poured it on him big time. The Holy Spirit is his greatest accomplishment I think. He made all things through Him, he found a way to make something lovely so he wouldn’t be alone and could have a huge family and bless us all and receive the greatest thing in the universe which is love, not forced but freely we love Him without seeing him face to face, what a love that is. This is my take on the Bible my name is Jonah and I’m 35 I’m writing this on Easter Sunday night which is now Monday morning 4:10 @1:15 am.
Philippians 2 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
We have all read the scripture. Why did you post it? What does it mean to you? I have a suspicion that it means something very different to you that what it means to me. Just keep in mind verse 11 when you read it.
To be equal " with " isn't the same as equal " to ". A husband and wife may be equal but isn't the husband in most cases stronger? Did not eve come from Adam via his rib? And per the Phil scripture, where is the holy spirit mentioned? Seems to be missing. lol You need three to make it work. And it doesn't.
What is the real history of Christianity? From Constantine and sun god worship to the modern false church system, the deception regarding the Bible has been propagated from centuries of pagan influence and church lies. Uncover pagan christian traditions and pagan Christian origins. Who was Constantine? Was Constantine a real convert to Christianity? Was Christianity originally a Jewish faith? How did the son of god turn into the sun of god? What about the pagan holidays? What about Christmas and it's pagan origin, Easter or Halloween? What is the pagan origin of Christmas? It's time for the false church to be exposed! This short video exposes the deception of the church through centuries of church tradition. It's time for the false church to be exposed!
We all know the trinity is pagan in origin and makes 0 sense. But a deep analysis like this just proves those worldly trinitarians to be absolutely nuts to defend it. Their veils are thick and their ways are stuck. All worship the one and only Ancient of Days Yahweh and thank you Yahshua for your resolve to use your Father's holy spirit for His glory and righteousness. So glad I found this following of the one and only Elohim Yahweh. Shalom from Minnesota! May I learn and hopefully pay a visit someday. Thank you for your hard work!
How should I pray? And what should I believe in? 😔 I want to ask God for guidance but I afraid that I pray wrongly still my prayer to know God won't be answered.. Where should I start?
@@nathanheath1328 I totally agree with you. I will be so happy to see the two wittiness. I pray they are two people from the past so they can explain everything in the way Our Heavenly Father wants us to understand things.
@ Anne Hillary This may help until you understand and I use this prayer myself most of the time. Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Do what many people have done and found the truth eventually, that is asking "Oh God, if you're out there, please guide me to Your true path and don't leave me misguided until my last breath."
I’m a first time viewer and myself have serious doubts about the Trinity. However, 5 minutes in and he already made a false statement or baseless assumption. He references Nelson’s and New Unger’s bible dictionaries as defining the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as being coequals in authority. It never says that. Multiple times in the Bible Jesus refers to the Father as being greater than He. Additionally, in the garden He clearly did not want to go to the cross. He said let not His own will be done, but that of the Father’s. He continually preached all glory should go to the Father. I’m gonna keep watching but find his credibility is weakened.
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, Colossians 2:8-9 NASB So the fullness of the Deity (of God) dwells in bodily form. Would that mean the fullness of God dwells in the bodily form that is Christ?
The fulness doesn't mean as if it is the deity. Compare it with someone saying the son of a father is the spitting image of the father, they're very similar but they are not the same. Likewise, Yahshua and Yahweh are very similar, but Yahshua is in total subjection to the Father. If you still don't understand, then compare us believers with the Spirit of God. We have the Deity dwelling in us, but it's not actually us. Be blessed, shalom!
@@afroddy I think of it as Yahusha being the representative of Yahuah on Earth. Just as the Father said I will make you like a god to pharoah and your brother your phrophet and then everything the Father told Moses to say Moses said it. (But of course the Son is highest except to the Father, the highest of ALL!)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:1 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.John 1:14 Please give your interpretation of these verses.
John 1:1-3. The Word refers to the preexistent Messiah. John confirms, "In the beginning was the 'Messiah,' and the 'Messiah' was with 'Yahweh,' and the 'Messiah' was 'a Mighty One.'" The Greek [Diaglott] clarifies by saying a mighty one was the Word. [The Complete Bible, an American Translation], reads, "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with (Elohim) and the Word was divine." Elohim is generic for mighty ones. In the OT this word applied to Yahweh, false deities, angels, and to man. In the context of this passage, Elohim refers to both the Father and Son. For additional evidence of Yahshua's preexistence and role in creation, see Genesis 1:1, 26; Proverbs 8:22-30; 30:4; Matthew 22:44; John 3:13; 4:34; 6:38, 62; 8:23, 58; 17:5; Colossians 1:13-16; 1 Corinthians 10:4; Revelation 3:14.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry no it says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. It doesn't say the word was a mighty one. That's not even true. It always say the WORD WAS GOD. ALWAYS
I must admit that if I had not already become convinced that the trinity teaching was false, I would have a hard time believing you, not because you do not do a good job, but because it is just so complicated. So often the more complicated something is, the more likely it is to be false. Occum's razor of course. It actually broke my heart and caused a crisis in my faith which I am still trying to get over, when I realized just how much deception God has allowed. I actually think we need to find a sure fire way to break people's faith in the tradition, before we can show them the truth.
Michael Wall i can relate so much to your comment. When i first started questioning the validity of the trinity about a year ago, i was worried something was wrong with me. I mean, all my christian friends and family believe this and some of them are very intelligent and have been honest and decent christians their entire lives. Even some of the great speakers and philosophers of the faith such as c.s. lewis and ravi zacharias believe the trinity. What am i missing? Why does God allow such a massive deception if the trinity isn't true? I remember telling my father for the first time,who is an ardent Trinitarian, that i did not believe Jesus was literally God. We had a discussion for hours going through all the "proof" texts of the trinity and he eventually just said what every Trinitarian says when you present to them all the contradictions after contradictions to them.... Oh its just a mystery and we'll never be able to understand it. Just accept it cause this is how God has revealed himself....
The truth is actually very simple. God is ONE. God is a "He". ALL of God is The Father. God has a Son, Ya'shua/Jesus. Jesus is not God; he is The singular God's SON. The holy Spirit is God's presence and power which he and Christ send forth..... Jesus, Himself, was anointed with The holy Spirit, _BY God!_ Blessings
@@DrummerDude5645 You are not alone in your struggle for truth. You cannot reason with those deceived with Trinitarianism. They always lose in a Sola Scriptura debate by bailing out with that "mystery" trump card. The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture. Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one." 1. God is the Father 2. God is also the son. 3. God is also the Holy Spirit 4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being 5. God is also the Divine Nature More than one definition of god is another god. All of these are claimed to be "one god." That simply means they are all part of one group called "god." More than one person as god is more than one god. It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism. It's idolatry. They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture. It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
Shabbat Shalom! I have been learning Hebrew, Hallelujah to Almighty Yahweh! I know that G-o-d and Jesus is not the proper way of saying Yahweh, Elohim or Yahshua, but what other English langue can I use besides what I grew up using? I love using the Hebrew names of Yahweh, Yahshua Ha'Maschiach and Ruach Ha'Kodesh, but everyone in the U.S.A doesn't know who they are, other then the English language. Shalom
Jesus told the Jewish scribe "Yahweh is oneYahweh " quoted the SHEMA which is the greatest commandments Mark 12:28-30:And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Yahweh our God, is one Yahweh. And you shall love Yahweh God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ the TRINITY IS NAMES AFTER THE PAGAN ATTORNEY TERTULLIAN THAT SHOULD BE A RED FLAG HOW IT CAME FROM A PAGAN TEACHING, JESUS IS GODS SON, EVEN IF HE DID OR DID NOT PRE-EXIST HE IS A CREATED BEING; FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION DESCRIBING God & who he is not: Numbers 23:19: GOD IS NOT A MAN, that he should LIE,NEITHER THE SON OF MAN that he should repent: Hath he said, and will he not do it? Deuteronomy 6:4 “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul & all your strength. These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart, & you must inculcate them in your sons & speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up DESCRIBING JESUS: GODS SON Isaiah 11:1-4 and there shall come FORTH A SHOOT OUT OF THE STOCK OF JESSEE , and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit. 2 And the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the FEAR of Jehovah. 3 And [a]his [b]delight shall be in the fear of Jehovah; and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither decide after the hearing of his ears; 4 but with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the [c]earth; and he shall smite the [d]earth with the rod of his mouth; and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Isaiah 42: Behold, MY SERVANT, whom I uphold; my chosen, in whom my soul delighted: I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the [a]Gentiles. 2 He will not cry, nor lift up his voice, nor cause it to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed will he not break, and a dimly burning wick will he not quench: he will bring forth justice in truth. 4 He will not [b]fail nor be [c]discouraged, till he have set justice in the earth; and the isles shall wait for his law. 5 Thus saith God Jehovah, he that created the heavens, and stretched them forth; he that spread abroad the earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I, Jehovah, have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thy hand, and will [d]keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 to open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the dungeon, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison-house. 8 I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.
If you were honest you would have went straight to scripture. Why bare false witness?..... instead of clarifying the plethora of scripture where the trinity is taken from? Thoroughly disappointed as I was waiting for biblical context that maybe I wasn't aware of.
This was a historical sermon about the Trinity and it's faults. If you want a biblical run-down of our thoughts on the Trinity: ua-cam.com/video/Ltf7ZTKUoss/v-deo.html
Yahweh is the Everliving One. That's all we need to know and trust. Everything else is man constructed impositions on human thought to appease the nosey busybody questions of men who refuse to trust Yahweh and demand He give an account of himself to satisfy THEIR curiosity. "We know in part"? No way! Explain Yourself NOW! You know, nevermind. We'll explain Yahweh for Yahweh to our satisfaction and arrogant gratification.
I loved this video! I am a firm Muslim, but I was raised as a catholic/Christian (I am from Dominican Republic) & I always questioned the trinity until islam reassured my heart in many ways. Nonetheless I have always tried to explain this fact to christians but they always use verses from John to try & claim that the trinity IS biblical so this video helped me so much not only did it enlighten me on some nee scholars & references to look into, but it also helps me make stronger arguments against the trinity! Continue to do gods work & may God bless you all & guide us all & grant us paradise AMEEN!
I say with all love and the hope that you find truth. The Vatican created Islam. Do your research please. A Jesuit priest exposed this. The only answer is The Kingdom. The Kingdom of Elohim (A spiritual country with citizens) start your search for truth from here.
I do not believe in the muslim religion because they do not believe that jesus was the son of god which means they are anti christ and the only way to get to heaven is through christ like jesus said so If I were you I would get rid of that false religion and become a christian.
Yeah. I believe much of Yeshua like muslims, where muslims think I'm Muslim. But Christians think I'm Muslim too. But I'm Follower of Yeshua and he says what he says. All power and authority comes from the Father. Scripture states, "God is our defender and the Holy One of Israel is our King." One God and one King. God is omnipresent, thus His Spirit is everywhere. "Me and the Father are one" = being filled with God's Spirit. What is God in relation to a believer, if they are filled with His Spirit... one.
All I know is that if you have to use the words "They" or "Them" to describe one being then you probably aren't describing one being, but more than one being. Just saying 😕.
Amen The HEAVENLY FATHER has spoken unto us by HIS SON in these last days The Blessed LORD said that you only come to know the FATHER through HIM " JESUS CHRIST " 🙏 Ephesians ch 6 put on the whole armor of GOD
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I am struggling with Isaiah 44:6 where Yahweh said there is no God beside Him. We know Jesus is called God in John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8 and by Thomas. Can you explain to me the meaning of Isaiah? It's because of this verse I started to believe in the Trinity.
I think the issue people have comes from a misunderstanding of the word "Elohim" (God in English). The word “elohim” is Hebrew and equivalent to the Greek theos. Below are definitions from the Strong’s Concordance for both words: elohiym (el-o-heem’); plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative. theos (theh’-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very. In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: 1) (plural) a) rulers, judges b) divine ones c) angels d) gods 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning) a) God, a god, a goddess b) god-like one c) works or special possessions of God d) the one true God e) God Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind. In short, it refers to any exalted position. Regarding the Messiah, few would debate that He is to be exalted. For this reason, He is counted as an elohim. Also, Thomas in John 20:28 refers to Him as a theos. The notable difference between Elohim (including Theos) and God is how they are perceived within Christianity. Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position. So Yes, Messiah is "God" in that he holds a position of authority at the Fathers right hand. But being an "Elohim" does not make one equal with the Father. And I feel like THAT is what Yahweh is saying in Isaiah 44:6. He truly stands alone in that regard. Elohim does NOT exclusively point to Yahweh alone.
I believe, that Yeshua is Yah in the flesh! Yah took on humanity, through His son. As the Word says, Yeshua was 100% man and 100% God. That’s the way Yahweh showed me. The Word says, that the fullness of the Godhead, is in Yeshua bodily.
So humans killed our God and creator and attained salvation for it? Adam and all of his seed suffered mortality and death for just disobeying him. Now we get Salvation for killing him. That is the trinity. Does it make sense to you still?
The Fullness of Yahweh was also in the Arc of the Covenant...it was not Ya himself. Joshua (Yashua) came after Moses...his name is the same name as Yahwehs only begotten son, was Joshua of amcient times also Yahweh? If You believe the holy spirit is also an individual being, than essentially you believe no dofferent than the pagans. Zeus came down to impregnate multipld human women. I noticed USUALLY trinitarians also accept and take part in other pagan traditions/holidays..xmas, easter, halloween etc. Most of the so called Christian world takes part more so in traditions of men than they do in actual scriptural teachings. This is EXACTLY WHY yashua said broad is the road to DESTRUCTION and that MANY would claim doing works in his name and that he'd openly deny thrm. Isnt it amazing that compared to the masses, there's only a relative few that take Yashua for his word that His Father is GREATER THAN HE....PERIOD. The masses in contrast put words in Yashuas mouth and tell him that he is EQUAL to the Father
No where, ever, at all, does it say that Yeshua is fully man and fully God. At all. No one in the entire Bible thought Yeshua was God. Period. Stop believing lies and ask Yah to open up your understanding. Saying it was really “Yah” really takes away the sacrifice he gave by giving His only Son to die for our sins.
By saying Yeshua was 100% God means He is divine. But how can he die if he is divine? So people like you are saying that Yeshua didn’t really die since he is divine. That is a Gnostic belief and denies the atonement and death of Yeshua. What is so difficult to understand about the Gospel saying that the Word became flesh? Became flesh means Yeshua was not divine when he walked as a man!
You said the Holy Spirit is the power/force of God... Why are we instructed to have communion (koinōnia- fellowship) with the Holy Spirit? (2 Cor. 13:14). Also,,, if Jesus is not God, then does that mean Jesus loves me more then Elohim? For "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." If Jesus is not Elohim then the love of Jesus is greater then the love of Elohim for Elohim may have gave His Son, however He did not give Himself..?
Here is our Study on the Tinity: yrm.org/identifying-father-son-holy-spirit/ Also, we do believe Messiah was/is Elohim. The word “elohom” is Hebrew and equivalent to the Greek theos. Below are definitions from the Strong’s Concordance for both words: elohiym (el-o-heem’); plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative. theos (theh’-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very. In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: 1) (plural) a) rulers, judges b) divine ones c) angels d) gods 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning) a) God, a god, a goddess b) god-like one c) works or special possessions of God d) the one true God e) God Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind. In short, it refers to any exalted position. Regarding the Messiah, few would debate that He is to be exalted. For this reason, He is counted as an elohim. Also, Thomas in John 20:28 refers to Him as a theos. The notable difference between Elohim (including Theos) and God is how they are perceived within Christianity. Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry you didn’t really answer his question. He said, 1. Greater love has no one then to lay down their life for their friend 2. Jesus laid his life down for us 3. God the Father did not lay his life down for us if Jesus and God are separate beings 4. Therefore did Jesus love us more then the then the Father since he was the one to lay his life down? That’s the question that was asked I believe. I think the questioner asked it because it seems preposterous that God the Father’s love would be less.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry no, Thomas did not refer to Yeshua as “Elohim”, if he did then he totally missed everything Yeshua taught them. ““Stop holding onto me,” Yeshua said to her, “because I haven’t yet gone back to the Father. But go to my brothers, and tell them that I am going back to my Father and your Father, to ***MY God and YOUR God***.”” Yochanan (Jhn) 20:17 “And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.” Yochanan (Jhn) 17:3 ONE and only ONE Elohim. Yeshua is the origin of Gods creation (Rev 3:14). A created being cannot be God. God cannot be a man and God cannot be tested. Period.
@@plants_and_wellness1574 The issue comes from translating Elohim into God. Sure it CAN mean "God" ie Yahweh. However, Elohim is a much broader term and is used to describe Men, Kings, Angels, Judges etc... However, it also describe Yahweh himself. When Elohim was translated solely as "God" it absolutely muddied the waters on what "Elohim" actually means. So to say Yahshua was Elohim is NOT saying he is "God" in the common sense. We are NOT claiming Yahshua is "God" in the sense of the Father. Absolutely not. We believe Yahshua is Elohim and that does not mean we believe he is now equal to Yahweh in any way. According to the Englishman’s Concordance, this term Elohim occurs 2,597 in the Hebrew text. While it is singular in usage, it can be used in the plural form, as a collective noun. Strong’s defines this term as, “…plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative. ”The Complete Word Study Old Testament further states, “Elohim; this masc. noun is pl. in form but it has both sing. and pl. uses. In a pl. sense it refers to rulers or judges with divine connections (Ex. 21:6); pagan gods (Ex. 18:11; Ps. 88:8); and probably angels (Ps. 8:5; 97:7)…In the sing. sense it is used of a god or a goddess (1 Sam. 5:7; 2 Kgs. 18:34); a man in a position like a god (Ex. 7:1); God (Deut. 7:9; Ezra 1:3; Is. 45:18 and many other passages,” Lexical Aids, 430. The following provide additional evidence for the singular and plural usages of elohim, beginning with the singular. Singular: • “And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations” (Ex 3:15). • “When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law, heard of all that Elohim had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that Yahweh had brought Israel out of Egypt” (Ex. 18:1). • “Seven days shalt thou keep a solemn feast unto Yahweh thy Elohim in the place which Yahweh shall choose: because Yahweh thy Elohim shall bless thee in all thine increase, and in all the works of thine hands, therefore thou shalt surely rejoice” (Deut. 16:15). The above examples illustrate elohim in the singular; the remainder provides examples of this word in the plural. Plural: • “And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their mighty ones [elohim]: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their mighty ones” (Num. 25:2). • “Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their mighty ones [elohim], and do sacrifice unto their mighty ones [elohim], and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice” (Ex. 34:15). • “And they forsook Yahweh Elohim of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other mighty ones [elohim], of the mighty ones [elohim] of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked Yahweh to anger” (Judg. 2:12). Many assume that because elohim is usually used in the plural, that it must refer to a Trinity. This is an erroneous assumption by many who attempt to force the concept of a triad into the Hebrew elohim. Elohim does not specify a number, only a plurality. It can just as easily mean two heavenly beings.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry what do you say about Ezekiel 18 where God says that a person cannot die for another person? And God says over and over that he doesn’t want sacrifice, but repentance. God says that if his people repent, he will forgive their sins. And human sacrifice is an abomination. God says that no one can die for your sins and human sacrifice is an abomination, and also no one has to die for your sins because you can just repent and God will forgive you.
Trinity I saw and heard that it brings anger from Yahweh. I hope that there will be rethinking of this belief and eventually the belief in Jewish monotheism is the fullfilling belief and this will last and bring his consent and joy to humanity.
The hebrews understood who God (jehovah/yahweh) was so much so actually, that they never mistook him for a trinity...which bscause if its incomprehensible nature makes god impossible to truly know or understand.
Why do so called Christians make up such lies or believe them??????? 1 John 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. So many will be deceived by this message 😢
1John 5:7-8. This passage has been embraced by many as confirming the doctrine of the Trinity, which is best defined through the Athanasian Creed, although scripturally unfounded. The following within parenthesis is absent from all texts prior to the sixteenth century: "For there are three that bear record (in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth), the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one." These additions are universally acknowledged as erroneous by nearly all biblical scholars. Adam Clarke writes that this verse lacks manuscript support. "It is wanting in every manuscript of this letter written before the invention of printing, one excepted, The Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve" (Adam Clarke's Commentary). The Jerusalem Bible concurs that it "is not in any of the early Greek mss. or any of the early translations, or in the best mss of the Vulgate itself." The New International Version and Companion Bible maintain that the phrase did not exist in any Greek manuscripts before the 16th century. It is also missing in the Revised Standard Version. The Harper Collins Study Bible says, "Only a few very unreliable manuscripts contain the trinitarian addition to verse 7." Benjamin Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott of the Greek text says, "It is not cited by any of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by any of the early Latin fathers, even when the subjects upon which they treat would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."
Yahweh's Restoration Ministry utter nonsense! If you quote from those who are against the true lineage of the bible then you will only get the answers of those who do not want the truth! Actually apart from the church fathers quoting John 5:7 you will find it before the 16th century e.g 200 AD Tertullian wrote "which three are one" based on the verse in his Against Praxeas, chapter 25. 250 AD Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin) 350 AD Priscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.] 350 AD Idacius Clarus referred to it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 62, col. 359.] 350 AD Athanasius referred to it in his De Incarnatione 398 AD Aurelius Augustine used it to defend Trinitarianism in De Trinitate against the heresy of Sabellianism 415 AD Council of Carthage appealed to 1 John 5:7 when debating the Arian belief (Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ) 450-530 AD Several orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals. These writers are: A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven" B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.] C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.] 500 AD Cassiodorus cited it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 70, col. 1373.] 550 AD Old Latin ms r has it 550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.] 750 AD Wianburgensis referred to it 800 AD Jerome's Vulgate has it [It was not in Jerome's original Vulgate, but was brought in about 800 AD from good Old Latin manuscripts.] 1000s AD miniscule 635 has it 1150 AD minuscule ms 88 in the margin 1300s AD miniscule 629 has it 157-1400 AD Waldensian (that is, Vaudois) Bibles have the verse 1500 AD ms 61 has the verse Even Nestle's 26th edition Greek New Testament, based upon the corrupt Alexandrian text, admits that these and other important manuscripts have the verse: 221 v.l.; 2318 Vulgate [Claromontanus]; 629; 61; 88; 429 v.l.; 636 v.l.; 918; l; r.
@@resident9011 the word dwelt there, means tabernacled... an allusion reference to the old temple that God indwelled, the new temple is Jesus's Body. The incarnate deity.
Constantine had eusubeus write their new testament books and made up the trinity based on pagan myths from babylon, iranian, india and Egyptian, and logos name of ieous or known as jesus. That formed their roman new world religion. There is no trinity but only One True God Yahweh Amen
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
The Catholic Church brought what they call the "holy trinity doctrine" into Christianity ! The trinity doctrine is not biblical. There is one God, The Father. Christ is His only begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature). The spirit belongs to God and not a different person to him. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The Holy Spirit is not a 3rd God ! called God The Holy Spirit. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth ''THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON'' into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ God is God the Father ! Jesus is the only begotten SON OF God (Divine) ! and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that reveals all truth. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Jesus Christ himself said that His Father is greater than Him. Jesus Christ the Son of God died for our sins ! not God The Father. God The Father cannot die. Deuteronomy 32:39-40 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Psalm 102:27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end. Zechariah 6:13 “Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.” In this verse it's very clear, the plan of salvation shall be between them both ! 1) God The Father ! 2) Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son ! Two persons ! not 3. John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. These verses talk about our Father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth. Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity. The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery. When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit". We will see God face to face, and we will know him. The Father of Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Ephesians 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now pope Benedict XVI) makes this confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19 saying: "The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism. So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome. The Trinity baptism and text of Matthew 28:19 therefore did not originate from the original Church that started in Jerusalem around 33 A.D. It was rather, as the evidence proves, a later invention of Roman Catholicism completely fabricated. Very few know about these historical facts.” (www.askacatholic.com/_webpostings/answers/2012_01JAN/2012JanWhyWereAdjustmentsMade.cfm) The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263: “The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.” The Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist) ua-cam.com/play/PLMIW5zbeYAXJ99DQujQqBevz5CFT1KkFR.html The Alpha & Omega of Heresy (Playlist) ua-cam.com/play/PLMIW5zbeYAXKZxvcSlB-2Do34YYA4Tdl0.html Prove All Things ~ by Nader Mansour (Playlist) ua-cam.com/play/PLMIW5zbeYAXIrSDp6MQnrOpMEMF0SWoQz.html
John 8 christ says it clearly, I and the father testify and the testimony of two is true (summarized) So There is one God, the creator of all the Father, he begot a son and exalted him above every name, they are of the same spirit, as we are called also to be of. Pretty basic stuff, that the pagans twisted into wickness.
Adam, you contradict yourself. You say there is one God: the Father. Then you say Jesus is his son who is therefore Divine (God by nature.) Everything you say after that, which may be true, is therefore made of no effect. Your first definition of the word God is the identity also called the Father. Your second definition of the word God is anyone who is considered to be Divine, aka godlike. Now that includes Jesus. So now there are two gods. You are simply taking the deceptions of Trinitarianism and making it bitheism. And when we are given the spirit, that would also make us Divine because we will be glorified as well. And that would make us part of the god group as well, making us all gods.
Yah the great one love john 5:22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Yah the great one love Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God ? John 1:1 says, “(a) In the beginning was the Word, (b) and the Word was with [the] God, (c) and the Word was God.” That this Divine Word is none other than Jesus Christ is shown by verse 14, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:1 (a) says the Word was in the beginning, but the beginning of what ? It has to be the beginning of something. Was it the beginning of this world ? Was it the beginning of the creation of the angels ? Whichever beginning you place it at, it has to be the beginning of something. Many Trinitarians use this to say that Christ has always been, and had no beginning. But that is not what the verse says. God had no beginning and has always existed ! Also the Word “with” has to mean something. The Word was “with” God. They cannot be the same being, or one could not be with the other. As John 1:2 NIV says, “He [Jesus] was with God in the beginning.” The proper rendering of John 1:1 into English from the original Koine Greek text continues to be a source of vigorous debate among Bible translators, and especially the phrase the Word was God (c). The first verse of John's Gospel says that God's Son Christ Jesus, being referred to as the Word here, was with God in the beginning, (a+b). John 1:1 (b) does not say that the Messiah is God but was with “the” God. It is important to note that the word “the” exists in the Greek text and was left out by translators as they probably thought it read wrong, but it is correct and has purpose. Here is the original Greek text for (1b). και and 2532 CONJ ο the 3588 T-NSM λογος Word 3056 N-NSM ην was 2258 V-IXI-3S προς with 4314 PREP τον the 3588 T-ASM θεον God 2316 N-ASM The phrase “the God” identifies the one true God the Father in this verse and so the word “the” is important. While Jesus is called God in this verse, there is a clear distinction between Him and “the” God whom He was with. The God whom Jesus was with is “the” God the Father. Jesus was not the same God He was with but rather Jesus was God in the sense of being divine just like His Father, as being the Son, He inherits the characteristics of His Father. The Father is God and so His Son is God by nature just as any human by inheritance possesses the very nature and form of humanity. One can better understand John 1:1 by using the same grammatical structure but with different subjects such as Adam and Eve for example. “In the beginning was the woman, and the woman was with [the] human, and the woman was human.” Adam is “the human” and the woman is Eve, but Eve is also human by nature but Eve is not “the human” in identity. They are two separate persons. Look at this again with this perspective in mind. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Deity, and the Word was Deity.” The Word, the Son was with the supreme Deity the Father, and the Word was Deity in nature. But the Son was not “the” Deity, the Son was not “the” Father, yet the Son has the Father's divine nature by inheritance. The Word has the same God quality, the same divine nature and the same God-ness as His Father. Thus Jesus was with God in the beginning, but He is not “the” God the Father but God by inheritance and nature being the Son. He is God because He is the Son of God. It is that simple. “Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. He was begotten, not created. HE IS OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FATHER, SO THAT IN HIS VERY NATURE HE IS GOD; and since this is so “it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.” Col. 1:19 ... While both are of the same nature, the Father is first in point of time. He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while Christ's personality had a beginning.” (E.J. Waggoner, ST, April 8, 1889) Adam & Eve vs. The Trinity ~ by Nader Mansour ua-cam.com/video/XO2rY7xsZ3w/v-deo.html
@@Adam-1984 I disagree Adam. The word is the word of God: the Father alone. John 1:1-5 is about the Father alone. He creates by his word, and in it's due time, it created Jesus, just as in your due time it created you. God knew you from the beginning of creation and his word made all things. When his word made Jesus, his word is still his, and does what he says. Jesus is a result of the word made flesh, not the word itself. The words of God you read in the scriptures are God's words, God character, manifest from God, but you can understand that they are not actually him. They represent him. Jesus represented God the same way God's words represent God. God speaks and things happen as he says, when they should. Here is how I understand John 1:1-5: (my interpretation): 1 In the beginning of creation just as in the beginning of the ministry of Jesus, was the Word of God the Father, and it was toward and regarded God, and what God the Father was, his Word was. 2 This same word of the Father it was in the beginning of all things. 3 All things were made by it; and without it was not any thing made that was made. 4 In it was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light of it shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. (Now we are back to the subject of the time of Jesus.) 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John." And then at that point it ties in with Jesus, after taking about John the Baptist. God is the light. His word made Jesus who represented this light to men. This light was in Jesus. Jesus was it's Tabernacle, just as all Children of God will be. It gave Jesus his words to say, and his work to do, and it resurrected him and glorified him after his obedient work was done. Part of the deception and struggle we all face because of it, is the Trinitarian bias of the translators. They deceptively chose to translate with a Trinitarian bias, deceivng many in the process. This was due to the one-world government council's back in the 300's. But if you look at a Geneva Bible for example, you can detect it, see through it, because it is evidence to show how they changed "it" to "him" to make us think the word of God was a person named Jesus, taking the focus off of God and placing it onto Jesus, replacing God with Jesus. The Greek word "autos" can be translated as "it" or "him" or "her" or "they" depending upon the context/subject being addressed. If it's the word of God, then it is "it." If you want to twist it towards a Trinitarian bias to mean Jesus, translate it as "him."
I live in Kelowna Canada. I have come to realize that the trinity is not biblical and may very well be the teaching of demons. I have been looking for a church or group or even a single person to worship God and study his word with. Can anyone out there help me or put me in contact with. Hebrews 10 : 25
No one knows how to pronounce our heavenly father's name. Some are convinced with Jehova and show their "proofs" for it, others say Jahwe and claim as well to have their proofs, other say Jahohua others x others x... matter of fact is, nobody really knows! Can we agree on that? Thanks!
Yes! His name is sadly lost in terms of pronunciation. We call him Jehovah in English and a lot of biblical names are build after God's name like Jehoshaphat and any names containing "jah" like Elijah and others. Even Hallelujah means praise God! We all try our best to remember his name. We can compare it to Michael in English and Miguel in Spanish. Both means the same name. Either way, he wants us to call him by his name. If any of his loving followers knew the correct way of saying it, then we would gladly say it to him out of love. 💕
Only two Divine beings are in heaven in the Godhead family for now until the Resurrections takes place. The Holy Spirit is not God the Spirit but Spirit of God.
I know the Bible teaches only the Father is the one true God (John 17:3) but what about the verses that call Jesus God? I am talking about verses like: John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" ^Here we see there are two gods? In the same gospel of John where only Father is true God, we see God, being in the beginning with God? Thats TWO? How is that possible? Could you explain this verse to me. This same language is used in Hebrews 1:8 where the Father calls the son God. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. I beg of you, please explain these two verses to me and how they dont threaten monotheism.
According to Trinitarians, it doesn't threaten monotheism because it's what 1 God. Jesus and the Father are the same being in their belief, although they are not the same person if that makes sense.
Where in the Bible does God say, "Thus says the LORD, 'I am Triune.'' In fact, the Bible does not teach the Trinity. The Trinity is man's definition of God, which was never given by God. Martin Luther preached that "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, John Lenker, editor, Vol. 3, 1988, p. 406). The Trinity is not revealed by God, is not understandable, and is man's attempt to define God! What? Historian H.G. Wells, wrote, "There is no evidence that the apostles...ever heard of the Trinity--at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). The Bible does teach that all things were given to the Son (Matthew 11:27-30). The Bible tells us that no man has seen the Father at any time (John 1:18). We, the children of Adam and Adam himself, have never seen the Father at any time. We have only beheld the Son of God, who because He was given all things is our only God, as the Father declares the Son to be our Creator (Hebrews 1:10). All the people who have claimed to see God, it was the Son they saw. Ask yourself, who is speaking here, the Father or the Son? “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides Me there is no God. And who can proclaim as I do? Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me, since I appointed the ancient people. And the things that are coming and shall come, let them show these to them. Do not fear, nor be afraid; have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one’” (Isaiah 44:6-8). Who is the Rock? The apostle Paul gives the answer: "Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ" (1 Corinthians 10:1-4). The Father has nothing to do with sin but has given all things to the Son, who alone is our God. Christ alone is the Shema of Israel (Deuteronomy 6:4). When all things are complete and death is no more, then the Son will turn everything back over to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:20-28). In the name of Christ, I declare to you that the Trinity is false! The Trinitarians have taken control of Christianity, it is time for a change back to the truth. A Christian is not to be defined by the Trinitarians. Christians do not have to be Trinitarian to be a Christian!
The term trinity is late, but it was coined in Ethiopia, by Terutullian. The Godhead was expressed however in the EXACT same manner as the Trinity by Ignatius. More than that, Israel means one who wrestles with God. Was that God, the one that no man has seen? Who did Joshua worship when he took of his shoes? "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God." "The Father, the Spirit, and the Son. These three are one." I need a quote from the Hellenistic teaching specifically, or a book written near that time with that teaching. A random quote doesn't do anything for me
The Edict of Thessalonica was the deciding edict written by Emperor Theodosius in 380 A.D. and enforced via the Roman sword. Look up his edict and read it yourself. It was blended into the Cappadocian fathers' (laughable) crafted theology at Constantinople in AD 381 yielding the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed. Shema
Do you ever wonder why we ever trusted the Romans? Especially when it dealt with our Heavenly Father? Why would we allow or follow ANYTHING they had to say? I would have been more apt to following the Jews! That’s why we have SO MANY religions today!
God makes sense? It takes a while to learn His way. He did not make sense to my poor mind. I had to learn His way, this Way of Grace and unfathomable love. So many verses tell us that Jesus thought it not robbery to be made equal with God. Also, Let's make man in our image and our likeness. No one can deny the plural there. Of course the Son died and the Father raised Him by the power of the Spirit Holy. Same power that is in us. Eph 1. We too were dead to God, who raised us up and made us alive. If the Spirit Holy is God's Spirit, then easily God is one with the Spirit. Now, Jesus claim was to be ONE with the Father. You know this very well. And usually those laughing in any debate at those who present another view, are giving themselves away as somewhat arrogant.... I am not saying you are not saved, but I KNOW, none other but God could pay for my sin. Who paid for yours?
Jesus Is Not God - Bible Verses Kermit Zarley Most Christians believe that Jesus was and is God. That is what the institutional church has taught. Christians professedly rely strongly on the Bible for this belief. Yet there is not a single verse in the Bible which states unequivocally, “Jesus is God,” or the like. Moreover, the New Testament (NT) gospels have no statement by Jesus in which he identifies himself as God. In fact, there are many Bible verses which indicate that Jesus cannot be God by declaring that only the Father is God or by distinguishing Jesus from God. Three irrefutable texts in the NT declare both of these points. Jesus Himself Teaches that Only the Father is God First, and foremost, is one of Jesus’ sayings recorded only in the Gospel of John. The setting is the Last Supper, right before he was arrested and crucified. He prayed for his disciples, saying, “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So, Jesus says of the Father that he is “the only true God” and then distinguishes himself from that one God. Both of these points clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot also be God. There are two other times the Johannine Jesus identified the Father as the only God. Earlier, he told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44). And again, at the Last Supper, Jesus distinguished himself from this one and only God by commanding his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (14.1). Paul Teaches that Only the Father is God The other two NT passages which irrefutably establish that only the Father is God and distinguish Jesus from God are in Paul’s letters. He writes to the church at Corinth, “There is no God but one…. yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him” (1 Corinthians 8.4, 6). Here, Paul clearly declares that for Christians there is one God, who is the Father, and there is no other God, so that Jesus is not God. Many traditionalist scholars cite this passage to support that Jesus preexisted, thus concluding that he was God. Yet in doing so, they often ignore its double declaration that there is only one God, who is the Father. Even if Jesus did preexist, this does not prove that he was God. Second Temple Judaism regarded that some righteous men preexisted, and Jews did not conclude that such preexistence indicated that they actually were God/gods. The third irrefutable NT text which establishes that there is God, who is the Father, and distinguishes Jesus from God is in Paul’s letter to the Ephesians. He writes, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph 4.4-6). Here, Paul implicitly identifies Jesus Christ as “one Lord” and distinguishes him from the “one God,” whom he unequivocally identifies as “the Father.” Paul is a unique author of NT literature in that he exclusively and consistently calls Jesus “Lord” and the Father “God.” Therefore, he never calls Jesus “God.” So, these three NT passages-John 17.3; 1 Corinthians 8.4, 6; and Ephesians 4.4-6-establish without any doubt that only the Father is God, so that Jesus cannot be God. Other Witnesses That Only the Father is God One of many other NT passages which confirm that Jesus is not God is his encounter with the rich young ruler. This man sincerely asked Jesus, “‘Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?’ And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone’” (Mark 10.17-18/Luke 18.18-19; cf. Matthew 19.16-17). Many Christians have been confused by this saying, thinking that Jesus implies that he himself is not good. Yet the NT often declares that Jesus was such a righteous man that he never sinned (Acts 3.14; 2 Corinthians 5.21; Hebrews 4.15; 7.26; 2 Peter 2.22). Then what did Jesus mean when he said, “no one is good but God alone”? In the OT, Judaism, and especially Hellenistic theism, only the one God was considered “good” in an absolute sense. This must be what Jesus meant in this encounter. Humans were called “good” only in a derived sense, with God being recognized as the Source of goodness. Many NT passages show that Jesus was not God. For instance, the NT often declares that God sent Jesus, God was with Jesus in his mission, and God raised him from the dead. Peter preached about “Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst” (Acts 2.22). Peter later proclaimed about “Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil; for God was with Him” (10.38). In the salutations of all ten of Paul’s NT letters he identifies God as the Father, distinguishes God from Jesus Christ, and he never mentions the Holy Spirit. He typically writes, “Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” This evidence further affirms that only the Father is God and that Jesus is not God. Moreover, the Bible contains several verses which state unambiguously that Jesus had a God, and most say his God was the Father. When Jesus hung upon the cross he quoted Psalm 22.1, crying out to the Father, “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME” (Matthew 27.46/Mark 15.34). The day Jesus was resurrected, he said to Mary Magdalene, “I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God” (John 20.17). And three times the Apostle Paul writes about “the God and Father of our/the Lord Jesus (Christ)” (Romans 15.6; 2 Corinthians 1.3; 11.31; cf. Ephesians 1.17). Finally, the heavenly Jesus is quoted five times saying “My God” (Revelation 3.2, 12; cf. 1.6). The Verse that Made Me Think The one verse that caused this author to first question whether Jesus is God is Jesus’ saying in his Olivet Discourse about the time of his return. He said, “But of that day and/or hour no one knows, not even the angels of/in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone” (Matthew 24.36/Mark 13.32). Since Jesus did not know the time of his return he could not have been God, for he reveals that God the Father did know it. Orthodox Christian theology has always insisted that God is omniscient, knowing everything, including everything about the future. Accordingly, Jesus could not have been God.
Sir may I call your attention, can you please listen to Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) the doctrine and views about the trinity is the same as your religion❤️ We appreciate your stand❤️
I hope when you say we believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that you stress the fact that the biblical unitarian definition of these terms are truly biblical and not how it is defined by "trinitarians." As stated in the introduction of the message sounded somewhat contradictory (although I ma sure it's been a bit misspoken...at least I hope so.) Other then that, great message!!!
The Bible (KJV) mentions God the father 171 times, God the Son zero (0) times. God the Holy Spirit zero (0) times. Holy Spirit is refered to as an Action Verb and not a noun. God or angels working through people is Holy Spirit which is action not a person, place or thing.
Yahshua could pay for the penalty of sin because He took the form of man and lived a sinless life. As a MAN, Adam sinned and because of that, all mankind was condemned. As a man, Yahshua was obedient unto death and because of that, mankind is saved. It really isn't complicated. Yahuah is God and Yahshua is His Son.
1 John 5:8 “These three are one.” How can they be one as John says if they are not one. Genesis 1:26 “And God said, let us make man in our image…” אֱלֹהִים ’elôhîym is translated God and is plural, hence the pronouns us and our. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” The Jews then took up stones to stone Jesus because he declared himself the “I am” who made himself known to Moses. John 10:30. I and my Father are one. John 10:38 that ye may know that and believe that the Father is in me and I in him. And they tried to kill Jesus again because he made himself to be God. That is why they crucified him. Matthew 1:22 Behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God (θεός theos ) with us. The Son is God with us. For brevity I have not given all the Scriptures surrounding but these are all in context and the references are there for anyone to look up. An explanation for your “twinity” is that the Comforter had not yet been sent. God introduces himself to man slowly as in the case of Moses. The Holy Spirit was not a question to be brought up before he was promised by Christ in John 14-16. The fact that there is debate amongst people only shows how people don’t understand who God is. (I don’t believe that we can fully understand who God is yet just from what he has revealed to us in the Scriptures. His ways are higher than our ways and his thoughts higher than our thoughts) We can understand what God has given to us to understand. (Pardon me if you will, I speak English. I do use the English words. I understand that you will probably anathematize me for this)
Unger’s Bible Dictionary, not fringe and a well recognized source by today’s Bible students, says that the Trinity “is essential to the understanding of the Scriptures.” Could it be that satan tries to imitate God and makes trinities in every false religion to add confusion. Even satan quotes Scripture (out of context) to destroy.
It’s interesting how people redefine the word one to make their point of view legit. God is simply one in number, not unity. The shema should be proof of the numerical one but instead people say it’s a complex unity. However mark 12 proves it’s a numerical 1 not unity.⬇️ 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:🤔 There is no debate. the trinity = co existent, is automatically disproved by one word in the Bible. LORD / YEHOVAH which defined is (self existent)
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry Your belief concerning the Holy Spirit is no different than the theology of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Look again in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit is referred to in the personal pronoun.
The word elohim is a plural noun for "gods" or "deities". Yes trinity is not in the bible but God head is. But in the end God is One God but three separate persons. If any one denies Jesus as God and part of the God head is an anti-Christ and is to be marked.
Singular: • “And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations” (Ex 3:15). • “When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law, heard of all that Elohim had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that Yahweh had brought Israel out of Egypt” (Ex. 18:1). • “Seven days shalt thou keep a solemn feast unto Yahweh thy Elohim in the place which Yahweh shall choose: because Yahweh thy Elohim shall bless thee in all thine increase, and in all the works of thine hands, therefore thou shalt surely rejoice” (Deut. 16:15). The above examples illustrate elohim in the singular; the remainder provides examples of this word in the plural. Plural: • “And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their mighty ones [elohim]: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their mighty ones” (Num. 25:2). • “Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their mighty ones [elohim], and do sacrifice unto their mighty ones [elohim], and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice” (Ex. 34:15). • “And they forsook Yahweh Elohim of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other mighty ones [elohim], of the mighty ones [elohim] of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked Yahweh to anger” (Judg. 2:12). Many assume that because elohim is usually used in the plural, that it must refer to a Trinity. This is an erroneous assumption by many who attempt to force the concept of a triad into the Hebrew elohim. Elohim does not specify a number, only a plurality. It can just as easily mean two heavenly beings. Elohim can indeed be plural. But the question must be asked. How does having more then one "Elohim" present = Trinity? Does the world Elohim mean they are co-equal? Does the word Elohim mean they are co-eternal? Does the word Elohim mean they are consubstantial? In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon: 1) (plural) a) rulers, judges b) divine ones c) angels d) gods 2) (plural intensive - singular meaning) a) God, a god, a goddess b) god-like one c) works or special possessions of God d) the one true God e) God Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind. Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position. This idea that Elohim MUST = "GOD" is simply false and over simplifies the definition of a word in order to fit a narrative. Elohim is far a broader term then most people realize.
Let look at " mainstream" religions. The all have pagn / nimrod trinity, they have geeek / roman hellfire, Greek imortal soul, greek roman heaven, most wear Roman religious garb and rituals, idolize the Roman Cross, use the roman calander, celebrate rmRoman holidays, use the Roman Sabath and continue to Roman iesus instead of Yeshua, But all continue to remove or discredit the devine name. Yehovaha.
On the money for 50 minutes…and then ultracrepidarian. Egyptian mythology does not have a trinity. Neither does Hinduism. And The Two Babylons is one of the most unscholarly texts that has ever infected the messianic movement….that said, we will still be recommending this video w/caveat.
Eliheim is pleural?, pleural was a Hebrew method of amplifying the original word. We say holy, holy holy. To amplify the intensity of holy! IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE NUMBER. BUT CAN BE APLIED TO MULT GODS AND VERY MIGHTY GODS. LET US ::: MAKE make man in our image. 7) and HE CREATED THEM Male and female. Inventors CREATE, JAH. CREATED Workers MAKE. JESUS IS THE MASTER WORKER. LET US is a litiary way a superior can include subordant into the conversation. God said. Let us go down and confound their language. A teacher says to the class,, let us find our seats.
I do believe God sent his only begotten son to die for our sins, I do not believe in the trinity or that we are saved by grace alone. Jesus is the Son of God and faith without works is dead. Works meaning the ten commandments. And without obeying Gods commandments you are not saved jus because you say you believe in Jesus Christ who died for our sins, not to keep sinning.
So in Islam it is said that Muhammad delivered what they call the “Satanic verses” as he was “deceived by Satan”. Those verses were accidentally added to the Quran and then taken out soon after as they were revealed to be false. The verses called for the worship of two additional deities besides their god Allah. Obviously Islam is misguided, however this example shows us a different and interesting perspective as we once again see the principle of the unholy trinity showing up and its undeniable link to a satanic deception.
Actually, no serious hadith scholar accepts the narration of the satanic verses. The chain of narrators is highly suspect, and so is generally rejected as a complete fairy tail.
I had subscribed to this channel until I saw this title. I refuse to not believe in the Trinity. My mind is closed to anything else on this matter. I completely believe in the Trinity!! Bon voyage!!
Well. It’s your choice to believe lies and you will be held responsible on judgement day. Trinity is not biblical. At all. Period. It’s a lie and a false doctrine. Saying otherwise is calling Elohim and His Son a liar. They disagree with you. I hope you find the truth.
Alexander Hislop expanded on and published this BOOK in 1858 and it is indeed a very scholarly piece sir. Try to investigate to get your facts straight before coming on so offish like you actually know what your talking about.
I had been talking with a couple of different trinitarian and they explained their idea of the "NATURE of God" It seems that they view God as the name of a species of being. For example here on earth, we have many species, (natures) Humans, cats, dogs, horses etc Each species as many members. Ther view of the three "persons" of the trinity are the only members of the species, tghat is that only those three have the "God nature" (as we have human nature) Evidently they do not understand that the word god just means "A mighty one" and is used of many diiferent types of "mighty ones" in the Bible including a reference to mountains
The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture. Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one." 1. God is the Father 2. God is also the son. 3. God is also the Holy Spirit 4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being 5. God is also the Divine Nature More than one definition of god is another god. All of these are claimed to be "one god." That simply means they are all part of one group called "god." More than one person as god is more than one god. It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism. It's idolatry. They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture. It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
yup... Three PERSONS.... ONE GOD-->[1Jo 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1John 5:7-8. This passage has been embraced by many as confirming the doctrine of the Trinity, which is best defined through the Athanasian Creed, although scripturally unfounded. The following within parenthesis is absent from all texts prior to the sixteenth century: "For there are three that bear record (in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth), the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one." These additions are universally acknowledged as erroneous by nearly all biblical scholars. Adam Clarke writes that this verse lacks manuscript support. "It is wanting in every manuscript of this letter written before the invention of printing, one excepted, The Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve" (Adam Clarke's Commentary). The Jerusalem Bible concurs that it "is not in any of the early Greek mss. or any of the early translations, or in the best mss of the Vulgate itself." The New International Version and Companion Bible maintain that the phrase did not exist in any Greek manuscripts before the 16th century. It is also missing in the Revised Standard Version. The Harper Collins Study Bible says, "Only a few very unreliable manuscripts contain the trinitarian addition to verse 7." Benjamin Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott of the Greek text says, "It is not cited by any of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by any of the early Latin fathers, even when the subjects upon which they treat would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."
restoration ministry.... in this verse God REVEALS to us(men) that HIS WORD is PURE and UNCORRUPTED-->[Psa 12:6 KJV] 6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. and in the NEXT VERSE HE(GOD) REVEALS to us(men) that HIS WORD WILL REMAIN UNCORRUPTED FOREVER-->[Psa 12:7 KJV] 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. so when HE(GOD) revealed to us(men) that HE(God) consist of THREE EQUAL PERSONS-->[1Jo 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. what verse do you have to back your "notion"?
There is a problem with your logic. The verse you are so galliantly defending is not in the original text. so therefore, how could psalms 12:6 apply to it? There verse says: The words of Yahweh are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Now, ask yourself. "What if men added their OWN words to the scriptures?" Would those be covered by Psalms 12:6? If it were impossible to corrupt and alter Yah's word why would he declare a punishment for it? (Revelation 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32, Deuteronomy 4:2) We here at YRM do indeed believe that the word of Yahweh is as Psalms 12:6 says: "...pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times." We do not, however believe that the Bible itself is untainted by man. It has been proven to have been tampered with in many locations. Which is why it is OUR responsibility to "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (1 thes 5:21) It is the TRUE word of Yahweh that is Good. If there is proof of a lie being peddled as breathed scripture it is OUR job to refute it. If you discover what you THOUGHT was true turned out to be false, would you defend it? There are DOZENS of errors in the KJV. It is a fair translation compared to others, sure. But to claim that Psalms 12:6 is speaking of the KJV is asinine, historicly false, and intellectually dishonest. So, we do not have a "Notion" as you call it. We have facts history and Yahweh's ACTUAL word on our side. While you have just defended a verse that scholarship and even the Church as acknowledge is no more than a mere notion. “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century… Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 14). Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture ... But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels,” - (Assumption of Mary, Life magazine, Oct 30, 1950, p. 51) “The Alexandria catechetical school, which revered Clement of Alexandria and Origen, the greatest theologian of the Greek Church, as its heads, applied the allegorical method to the explanation of Scripture. Its thought was influenced by Plato: its strong point was [pagan] theological speculations. Athanasius and the three Cappadocians [the men whose Trinitarian views were adopted by the Catholic Church at the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople] had been included among its members.” - (Hubert Jedin, Ecumenical Councils of the Catholic Church: an Historical Outline, 1960, p. 28) There are literally DOZENS more. We have heard it all before. Why people line up to defend a plain and obvious falsity is testament to Satan's deceptive power.
John 1:1-3. The Word refers to the preexistent Messiah. John confirms, "In the beginning was the 'Messiah,' and the 'Messiah' was with 'Yahweh,' and the 'Messiah' was 'a Mighty One.'" The Greek Diaglott clarifies by saying a mighty one was the Word. The Complete Bible, an American Translation, reads, "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with (Elohim) and the Word was divine." Elohim is generic for mighty ones. In the OT this word applied to Yahweh, false deities, angels, and to man. In the context of this passage, Elohim refers to both the Father and Son. For additional evidence of Yahshua's preexistence and role in creation, see Genesis 1:1, 26; Proverbs 8:22-30; 30:4; Matthew 22:44; John 3:13; 4:34; 6:38, 62; 8:23, 58; 17:5; Colossians 1:13-16; 1 Corinthians 10:4; Revelation 3:14.
This is a new conversation to me. I was always taught the trinity was like an egg. The shell the whites and the yolk. (Father, son, holly spirit) they’re different but the same. I was never taught 3 different people with 3 different personalities.
It's 325 A.D. and now it's official, after much debate, Athanasius won the day. While this was a major setback for those who embraced the original Jewish tenants as taught by the Messiah and His Apostles, this was a notable win for the Greek minded gentiles that influenced the church. Authors Anthony F. Buzzard and Charles F. Hunting state, “The Greek philosophically-minded Alexandrian theologians, led by Athanasius, won the day. Those more under the earlier influence of Jewish monotheism were defeated. Dissenters who refused to sign the agreement were immediately banished. The Church was now taken over and dictated to by theologians strongly influenced by the Greek mind… ‘When the Greek mind and the Roman mind, instead of the Hebrew mind, came to dominate the Church, there occurred a disaster from which the Church has never recovered, either in doctrine or practice’” (The Doctrine of the Trinity, pp. 151-152).
I'd hardly call a forced debate under threat of death and banishment by a Roman emperor, simply to United dentine by force, "a win." They took over the church by force. Saying that a particular deceived person's perspective "won the day" gives it the appearance of a legitimate debate, won by reason and humility.
The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture.
Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one."
1. God is the Father
2. God is also the son.
3. God is also the Holy Spirit
4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being
5. God is also the Divine Nature
More than one definition of god is another god.
All of these are claimed to be "one god."
That simply means they are all part of one group called "god."
More than one person as god is more than one god.
It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism.
It's idolatry.
They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture.
It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
Had the sell-outs not come to Nicea to begin with--and since only 25% of the existing assemblies sent representatives--it wouldn't have been a thing--neither would Sunday keeping or Easter. This is barely different than the rout of Israel at Ai.
@@TheChadWork2001 it has been ten months. Do u still believe the trinity is not true?
@@TheChadWork2001 Are you trying tell God what he can and cannot do ? You must be brighter than the Apostles and all the Church Fathers
This teaching is a breath of fresh air. I’ve come out of Christianity and the indoctrination that I sat under for at least 27 years. I no longer believe in the Trinity, I understand Torah more clearly as I stepped away from Christmas, Easter and Sunday worship.
I agree with this teaching. We all who believe in an unholy Trinity are called cults by the deceived but Hallelyah to The Most High for leading us out of this unholy teaching
paulina Dsouza very true..... and sad for those individuals who’s eyes are closed....
@@Willie_Wahzoo Amen.
The fact the trinitarian church and state united with rome or all the kingdoms of the world controlled by satan and then killed millions of non trinitarian Christians should be enough that the trinity is the doctrine of the nicolaitains which Jesus Christ hates because it was the non trinitarian Christian laity that they were trying to conquer
Wow the influence of the Roman and Greek pagan belief and traditions incorporated after the death of the original disciples and apostles that Paul wrote and warned about to the early Churches of God in Corinth and other places. Thank you to this Ministry.
Was Paul a false teacher?
Dear Brother, you have no idea how much I appreciate listening to you speak about this topic.
Very much indeed!!!
I was gloriously born into the kingdom of God in 1979 and have read the Bible for many years, because I love the perfect God/Father , the perfect Son , and the perfect and Holy Spirit of Truth. I never actually believed in the "trinity" and never felt the need to. I do not even believe in the " church" but the eclesia is an amazing reality to me. So thankful that THEY all called me out of this kingdom of darkness into the KINGDOM OF GOD, after all that is the destination for people who desire to live eternally in His presence. Amen and Hallelujah!!! ❤
Trinity.. no. Triunity ... yes. Genesis says “ come let US make man in OUR image.” Elohim is plural. Multiple manifestations of God. Jesus is God as it says in John 1. “ the Word was God.. through him all things were created.” Yahshua became man and dwelt among us. Clearly scripture says Yahshua was God in the flesh. He is called Emanuel meaning “ God with us”. If you deny this then you are NOT a Christian!! The Pharisees wanted to stone Yahshua because he claimed the same authority as God. He claimed he could forgive sins. Who can forgive sins other than God? Huh? Please YRM you must look at Hebrew word meanings and not just Greek. God In 3 manifestations NOT 3 persons.
Did Yahusha say all power in heaven and earth is given to him? He didn't say he always had it. To be given something, you could not have had it at first. Yahusha is the son of YAH so he is a God he is just not the supreme God. Look throughout the gospel. He constantly refers to his father as another.
I truly am trying to understand and question if what I have been taught lines up with scripture. As I was listening, I was reminded that the word tells us that His name will be called Immanuel (God is with us) which is found in Matthew 1: All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”). I believed I needed to share that for some reason. I also truly believe that not one of us can understand the word unless we humble ourselves and ask Him to help us understand and be present for the reading of His word. My prayer is that we will all come to an understanding in order to glorify God.
You have to view things in the spirit and not in flesh like the Catholic church teaches. The father, son and holly spirit are all in one meaning all act as one and so all are one. Jesus never claimed to be the father but of the father and like the father.
@@hopenotlost5848 I've been taught my entire life that that verse could be interpreted as evidence for the Trinity. It wasn't until I just read your comment that I saw a different understanding of it.
"God is with us" does not give evidence that Yahusha (Jesus) is YAH (God). Instead, His birth and purpose proved YAH was still for them, still with them, and still had a plan. The meaning of the name speaks to hope more than anything else. It's not a reference to the Trinity.
@@joseespinal3363 Jesus said" if you see me you see the father"
I remember a Catholic UA-camr who was defending the church's decision at Nicea. He started off by saying that 800 bishops were invited and probably 300 showed up. The presence of 800 bishops tells me there s already a complex church hierarchy in place and they're debating the deity of Yeshua over 300 years after his death? Ding ding ding alarm bells should be going off in everyone's head.
oops 1800.. even worse
Fun fact, ecumenical councils were only called when well established dogmas were challenged.
TRINITARIAN Narrative got out of hand after the 2nd century, I'll prove it!!👇
"Clement" Greeted by "Paul" in,
Philippians 4:3 Indeed, true companion, I ask you also, help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, alongside❌Clement as well as the
rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life.
Clement MENTIONED in Philp 4:3
had Apostolic procession &
Ran the 1st church Rome from; 60-90AD till Martyred.
Here's Clement:
1 Clement 59:4
"Let all the Gentiles know that
🫱Thou art the God alone, and
🫴Jesus Christ is Thy Son.
Clement Mirrors Jesus watch:
John 17:3
"Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the 🫱only true God,
🫴and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent."
Irenaeus~Against Heresies 3.6.4(180-200AD)
Wherefore I do also call upon
thee, Lord God of Abraham, and
God of Isaac, and God of Jacob
and Israel, who art the
Father of our lord Jesus Christ,
the God who, through the abundance of Thy mercy, hast had a favour towards us, that we should know Thee, Who hast made
heaven and earth, who rulest
over all, who art the
🫸"only and the true God"🫷
above whom there is none other
God; Grant, by our🫴Lord Jesus Christ,
the governing power of the Holy Spirit;
give to every reader of this book to know Thee, that 🫱Thou art God alone,
to be strengthened in Thee,
And to "❌avoid every heretical,
and godless, and impious doctrine".
The problem with this presentation is that everything you've presented has been solely based on appeal to mans beliefs. No where was scripture used to refute the claims of those who hold to the Triune God which is CLEARLY taught in scripture. Saying the word TRINITY doesn't show in the bible is like saying the word BIBLE doesn't appear in the scriptures. Trinity was a term coined as an attempt at best to describe the triune nature of God as believers were forced by the scriptures to reconcile the 3 distinct persons of the Godhead that are being illustrated throughout the bible.
PROVERBS 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
There are many scriptures in the old and new testament that force us to reconcile the distinction of 3 persons depicted as 1 God.
In MATTHEW 3:16 - 17
16 And when JESUS was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the SPIRIT of GOD descending like a dove and coming to rest on him. 17 and behold, a voice from heaven said "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased"
There is clearly 3 distinct descriptions of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit existing and interacting simultaneously.
The Holy Spirit is referred to as HE not an it, or a force showing HIS distinct personhood.
1 CORINTHIANS 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same SPIRIT, WHO apportions to each one individually as HE WILLS.
The Holy Spirit referred to as HE, distinguishing his personhood, furthermore in
EPHESIANS 4:30 And do not GRIEVE the Holy Spirit of God by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
If he has no personhood why is HE grieving?
Jesus states blasphemy against the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven MATTHEW 12:31
Jesus says he will send from the FATHER, the SPIRIT of TRUTH who proceeds from the Father, and HE will bear witness about Jesus JOHN 15:26
Jesus says if you don't believe that "I am he" you will die in your sins JOHN 8:24
I and the Father are one JOHN 10:30
ISAIAH 44:6 I am the first and the last, besides me there is no god.
Then Jesus himself says this
REVELATION 1:17 - 18
Fear not, I am the First & the last.
Jesus stating he is YHWH and equal with the Father from his own mouth and is why he was crucified...
John 5:18
For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself EQUAL with God.
These are only a few of many passages throughout scripture that those who are opposed to the Triune God have to wrestle with and refute with scripture first before stating the trinity isn't biblical. Please people, read your bible and more importantly ask the Holy Spirit to lead and help you understand Gods truth while you read. You have to spend time to wrestle with who God is, if you truly want to begin to understand who he reveals himself to be.
I pray all who read this have their eyes opened to the triune God of the bible, who is YHWH.
This is a HISTORICAL summary. A Biblical summary is available here: ua-cam.com/video/Ltf7ZTKUoss/v-deo.html
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it...
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth...
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number...
Elohim is not a trinity.. Yahshua (Jesus formerly the Word) was not created but did leave his glorious state to be created as a man...
He spoke of himself while in human form as the 'Son of Man'... He spoke of his future self as the 'Comforter'...
Elohim (Father and Son) are Holy Spirits who like a man and wife are as one...
Elohim created their image as a male and female of flesh who procreate in their own image...
Of course Elohim has no sexual nature or gender...
God is two spirit beings who are as one...
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I HAVE STRUGGLED SINCE I WAS YOUNG BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN WHY I FELT SO OFF AT THE NUMEROUS CHURCHES I HAD WENT TOO AT THE TIME. NOW OLDER AND HAVING BEEN DOWN A NOT SO RIGHTEOUS, OBEDIENT ROAD IN MY LIFE. AS I HAVE SLOWLY BEGAN TO DISCOVER MYSELF AND PUT MY TIME ENERGY AND RESOURCES TOWARDS THE PURPOSE IM SUPPOSED TO HAVE, I WAS BLESSED IN STUMBLING UPON YOUR MINISTRY AND WORK. I HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED MY RSB PREMIUM FROM YOU GUYS AN THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING THE SMALLER VERSION TO CARRY AROUND. I STRUGGLE NOW HOWEVER WITH TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MY FAMILY MY FRIENDS AND JUST PEOPLE IN GENERAL ABOUT SOME OF OUR T
"TRUE" HISTORY. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO EVEN GET PASSED THE FIRST TOPIC OR QUESTION BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS. IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO ON REGARDS TO SPREAD THIS TRUTH WITHOUT STRUGGLING WITH THE IGNORANCE THAT THEY HAVE IN BEING STUCK IN THERE WAYS? I ONLY WISH TO SHARE WHAT INFORMATION I HAVE BEEN BLESSED IN RESEARCHING AND LEARNING FROM YOUR MINISTRY. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SINCERELY DAVE.
Don't be discouraged. After 20+ years of understanding the truth, I still have friends and family that will not accept my (our) beliefs: the Name, seventh day Sabbath, Feast days, clean food laws, etc. I finally realized that there is little I can do to convince them but pray and provide an example by my actions. Also, keep studying and learning so that when you are asked questions you can answer them truthfully and believably. Yahweh will call them some day and they will either answer Him or not.
@@deborahreed4087 Be blessed sister!
people will find out when they die
I found an interesting Text in the Bible regarding a place called "Ba'al Shalishah" (בעל שׁלשׁה) which literally means "triple lord" or "lord of threes."
I'm wondering if this was an ancient Cana'anite place named after their triune god?
Excelent video!!!!kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
You are twisting yourselves into knots for no reason what so ever. Think of it like this....
#1 my wife calls me husband
#2 my child calls me dad
#3 my dad calls me son
But I'm still William.
If you think in finite human terms, you will get finite human answers.
John 1:1
John 1:14
There are not 3. There is One. Our heavenly Father IS also the Son and IS also the Spirit. There's a reason Yahshua said "I AM".
you are simply referring to semantics. I would agree with you that God, Lord, Creator are different ways of describing the same thing, but you are mistaking in using the same rationale for the trinity. Jesus prayed to the father, the Holy Spirit came down on Jesus, etc -these are separate entities. Semantics can't be used as an explanation here
You have to view things in the spirit and not in flesh like the Catholic church teaches. The father, son and holly spirit are all in one meaning all act as one and so all are one. Jesus never claimed to be the father but of the father and like the father.
Three persons of the Trinity?...
Show me where the Holy Ghost speaks to the Son, or even where the Holy Spirit speaks to the Father?
@@joseespinal3363 Jesus said the Father was greater than him. You can't be greater than yourself. Only the Father and the Holy Spirit are the same (With the Holy Spirit not being a separate person, it's just another name for God's spirit or God's nature), the Son is the son - he is NOT the same.
@@afroddy the Spirit of Jesus Christ, is the Holy Spirit, remember when Mary got pregnant it was through the Holy Spirit, and then the Holy Spirit (God) John 1:14 became into flesh, and the Scriptures says that the inmage, all deity of God (Holy Spirit) dwells physically in Jesus Christ, when He was in earth.
Colossians 2:9
ESV
9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
Colossians 1:15-16
English Standard Version
The Preeminence of Christ
15 He is the image of the invisible God,
When Christ said the Father is greater than I, means His Spirit is greater than His flesh
The Spirit of Yahweh was with Yahweh in the beginning, his spirit descended on Yahshua after his baptism. Why do you think none around Him knew he was the Messiah until that time. Yahweh’s Holy Spirit is Yahweh’s son, why do you think Yahshua can’t send the spirit until after he has ascended? John said he gave Yahshua the spirit without measure. He manifested his Holy Spirit inside Yahshua, Yahshua was sinless or else he wouldn’t have had a “clean” body to go into. The same way as how demons can only enter in through sin, they can’t enter into anything holy, Yahweh can’t enter into sin. How do you think Yahshua speaks the words of the Father. How else would the father be in him and him in his father. The Holy Spirit is measured in the verse I spoke of above and in other verses, he gives his spirit by measure into those that deserve it. Yahshua was sinless and got a bunch of it. He sent it back into the world after he ascended, why else did he say a little while I’ll be with you and then a little while gone and then a little while be with you. Why do you think the apostles were able to do miracles? They were given the spirit by what measure they had faith and believed, they believed completely by the end and confessed it cause they said Yahshua spoke plainly and told them he was from the father. They’re complete belief was measured back to them in spirit. He plainly told us how it works. Now Yahshua is the Messiah and the son and sits on the throne with him. He is what God looks like. Why else would he say if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father, the Word which is Gods Holy Spirit that was hovering over the face of the deep became flesh. The word has manifested in angels and many other things to speak to people in the old and New Testament, and even came into the prophets bodies in there sleep and caused them to see visions, that’s how he spoke to us, until finally there was one without sin and he could manifest completely in the flesh in a sinless human body to come speak to us plainly. Now was Yahshua with Gods spirit in him the whole time? I’m sure he was, but after the baptizing I think he really poured it on him big time. The Holy Spirit is his greatest accomplishment I think. He made all things through Him, he found a way to make something lovely so he wouldn’t be alone and could have a huge family and bless us all and receive the greatest thing in the universe which is love, not forced but freely we love Him without seeing him face to face, what a love that is. This is my take on the Bible my name is Jonah and I’m 35 I’m writing this on Easter Sunday night which is now Monday morning 4:10 @1:15 am.
Gentiles don't know the Bible
Philippians 2
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
We have all read the scripture. Why did you post it? What does it mean to you? I have a suspicion that it means something very different to you that what it means to me. Just keep in mind verse 11 when you read it.
To be equal " with " isn't the same as equal " to ". A husband and wife may be equal but isn't the husband in most cases stronger? Did not eve come from Adam via his rib? And per the Phil scripture, where is the holy spirit mentioned? Seems to be missing. lol You need three to make it work. And it doesn't.
Man and wife to “become one flesh” - Genesis 1:26 (Figure of speech? Or am I also my wife?)
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@@jamesmccluskey8055 To become one flesh is what husbands and wives do. They're called children.
We all know the trinity is pagan in origin and makes 0 sense. But a deep analysis like this just proves those worldly trinitarians to be absolutely nuts to defend it. Their veils are thick and their ways are stuck. All worship the one and only Ancient of Days Yahweh and thank you Yahshua for your resolve to use your Father's holy spirit for His glory and righteousness. So glad I found this following of the one and only Elohim Yahweh. Shalom from Minnesota! May I learn and hopefully pay a visit someday. Thank you for your hard work!
How should I pray? And what should I believe in? 😔 I want to ask God for guidance but I afraid that I pray wrongly still my prayer to know God won't be answered.. Where should I start?
Anne Hilary I’ll be praying for you 🙏🏾! Trust me I know how you feel! There are so many false doctrines out there ! It’s like we are surrounded !
@@nathanheath1328 I totally agree with you. I will be so happy to see the two wittiness. I pray they are two people from the past so they can explain everything in the way Our Heavenly Father wants us to understand things.
@ Anne Hillary
This may help until you understand and I use this prayer myself most of the time.
Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Do what many people have done and found the truth eventually, that is asking "Oh God, if you're out there, please guide me to Your true path and don't leave me misguided until my last breath."
Afirm and meditate
Yehweh is one and only one God
no, it's santana lopez you don't understand
what´s up with the israel flag?
It's not an Israel Flag....
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry then?
Is Yashua also called our father or is it only Yahweh?
I’m a first time viewer and myself have serious doubts about the Trinity. However, 5 minutes in and he already made a false statement or baseless assumption. He references Nelson’s and New Unger’s bible dictionaries as defining the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as being coequals in authority. It never says that. Multiple times in the Bible Jesus refers to the Father as being greater than He. Additionally, in the garden He clearly did not want to go to the cross. He said let not His own will be done, but that of the Father’s. He continually preached all glory should go to the Father. I’m gonna keep watching but find his credibility is weakened.
Here is our full stance on the Trinity. yrm.org/identifying-father-son-holy-spirit/
Weren't those references what he was saying stated that the trinity isn't biblical?
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
Colossians 2:8-9 NASB
So the fullness of the Deity (of God) dwells in bodily form. Would that mean the fullness of God dwells in the bodily form that is Christ?
The fulness doesn't mean as if it is the deity. Compare it with someone saying the son of a father is the spitting image of the father, they're very similar but they are not the same. Likewise, Yahshua and Yahweh are very similar, but Yahshua is in total subjection to the Father. If you still don't understand, then compare us believers with the Spirit of God. We have the Deity dwelling in us, but it's not actually us. Be blessed, shalom!
@@afroddy I think of it as Yahusha being the representative of Yahuah on Earth. Just as the Father said I will make you like a god to pharoah and your brother your phrophet and then everything the Father told Moses to say Moses said it. (But of course the Son is highest except to the Father, the highest of ALL!)
Do yous avoid j c as well for similar reasons 🤔💯♥️📖
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.John 1:1
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.John 1:14
Please give your interpretation of these verses.
John 1:1-3. The Word refers to the preexistent Messiah. John confirms, "In the beginning was the 'Messiah,' and the 'Messiah' was with 'Yahweh,' and the 'Messiah' was 'a Mighty One.'" The Greek [Diaglott] clarifies by saying a mighty one was the Word. [The Complete Bible, an American Translation], reads, "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with (Elohim) and the Word was divine." Elohim is generic for mighty ones. In the OT this word applied to Yahweh, false deities, angels, and to man. In the context of this passage, Elohim refers to both the Father and Son. For additional evidence of Yahshua's preexistence and role in creation, see Genesis 1:1, 26; Proverbs 8:22-30; 30:4; Matthew 22:44; John 3:13; 4:34; 6:38, 62; 8:23, 58; 17:5; Colossians 1:13-16; 1 Corinthians 10:4; Revelation 3:14.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry no it says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. It doesn't say the word was a mighty one. That's not even true. It always say the WORD WAS GOD. ALWAYS
@@Rican856 I mean, if you want to base your entire outlook on the English and refuse to not go anywhere past that, we cannot help you.
@@Rican856you really thought the bible was originally written in english dont you? Brother wake up!! 😂😂😂
I must admit that if I had not already become convinced that the trinity teaching was false, I would have a hard time believing you, not because you do not do a good job, but because it is just so complicated. So often the more complicated something is, the more likely it is to be false. Occum's razor of course. It actually broke my heart and caused a crisis in my faith which I am still trying to get over, when I realized just how much deception God has allowed. I actually think we need to find a sure fire way to break people's faith in the tradition, before we can show them the truth.
Michael Wall i can relate so much to your comment. When i first started questioning the validity of the trinity about a year ago, i was worried something was wrong with me. I mean, all my christian friends and family believe this and some of them are very intelligent and have been honest and decent christians their entire lives. Even some of the great speakers and philosophers of the faith such as c.s. lewis and ravi zacharias believe the trinity. What am i missing? Why does God allow such a massive deception if the trinity isn't true? I remember telling my father for the first time,who is an ardent Trinitarian, that i did not believe Jesus was literally God. We had a discussion for hours going through all the "proof" texts of the trinity and he eventually just said what every Trinitarian says when you present to them all the contradictions after contradictions to them.... Oh its just a mystery and we'll never be able to understand it. Just accept it cause this is how God has revealed himself....
The truth is actually very simple.
God is ONE.
God is a "He".
ALL of God is The Father.
God has a Son, Ya'shua/Jesus.
Jesus is not God; he is The singular God's SON.
The holy Spirit is God's presence and power which he and Christ send forth.....
Jesus, Himself, was anointed with The holy Spirit, _BY God!_
Blessings
@@DrummerDude5645 You are not alone in your struggle for truth.
You cannot reason with those deceived with Trinitarianism. They always lose in a Sola Scriptura debate by bailing out with that "mystery" trump card.
The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture.
Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one."
1. God is the Father
2. God is also the son.
3. God is also the Holy Spirit
4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being
5. God is also the Divine Nature
More than one definition of god is another god.
All of these are claimed to be "one god."
That simply means they are all part of one group called "god."
More than one person as god is more than one god.
It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism.
It's idolatry.
They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture.
It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
@@OurHumbleLife True but what about John 1:1 where God is with God. And Hebrews 1:8 where God says to God.
Shabbat Shalom! I have been learning Hebrew, Hallelujah to Almighty Yahweh! I know that G-o-d and Jesus is not the proper way of saying Yahweh, Elohim or Yahshua, but what other English langue can I use besides what I grew up using? I love using the Hebrew names of Yahweh, Yahshua Ha'Maschiach and Ruach Ha'Kodesh, but everyone in the U.S.A doesn't know who they are, other then the English language. Shalom
Jesus told the Jewish scribe "Yahweh is oneYahweh " quoted the SHEMA which is the greatest commandments Mark 12:28-30:And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Yahweh our God, is one Yahweh. And you shall love Yahweh God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ the TRINITY IS NAMES AFTER THE PAGAN ATTORNEY TERTULLIAN THAT SHOULD BE A RED FLAG HOW IT CAME FROM A PAGAN TEACHING, JESUS IS GODS SON, EVEN IF HE DID OR DID NOT PRE-EXIST HE IS A CREATED BEING; FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATION
DESCRIBING God & who he is not:
Numbers 23:19: GOD IS NOT A MAN, that he should LIE,NEITHER THE SON OF MAN that he should repent: Hath he said, and will he not do it?
Deuteronomy 6:4 “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul & all your strength. These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart, & you must inculcate them in your sons & speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up
DESCRIBING JESUS: GODS SON
Isaiah 11:1-4 and there shall come FORTH A SHOOT OUT OF THE STOCK OF JESSEE , and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit. 2 And the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the FEAR of Jehovah. 3 And [a]his [b]delight shall be in the fear of Jehovah; and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither decide after the hearing of his ears; 4 but with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the [c]earth; and he shall smite the [d]earth with the rod of his mouth; and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isaiah 42: Behold, MY SERVANT, whom I uphold; my chosen, in whom my soul delighted: I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the [a]Gentiles. 2 He will not cry, nor lift up his voice, nor cause it to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed will he not break, and a dimly burning wick will he not quench: he will bring forth justice in truth. 4 He will not [b]fail nor be [c]discouraged, till he have set justice in the earth; and the isles shall wait for his law. 5 Thus saith God Jehovah, he that created the heavens, and stretched them forth; he that spread abroad the earth and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I, Jehovah, have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thy hand, and will [d]keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 to open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the dungeon, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison-house. 8 I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise unto graven images.
Petrius Galatinus, a confessor to Pope Leo X, who tried to translate Yahweh's name to Latin and ended up with Jehovah 🤣
Great job here
If you were honest you would have went straight to scripture. Why bare false witness?..... instead of clarifying the plethora of scripture where the trinity is taken from?
Thoroughly disappointed as I was waiting for biblical context that maybe I wasn't aware of.
This was a historical sermon about the Trinity and it's faults. If you want a biblical run-down of our thoughts on the Trinity: ua-cam.com/video/Ltf7ZTKUoss/v-deo.html
I would love if you could make a segment on the biblical verses they use to try to justify the trinity!
Mostly verses from john, which were generously translated to fit the narrative of the trinity(by trinitarian translators of course)
Where is part two? I can't seem to find it.
ua-cam.com/video/Ltf7ZTKUoss/v-deo.html
Yahweh is the Everliving One. That's all we need to know and trust. Everything else is man constructed impositions on human thought to appease the nosey busybody questions of men who refuse to trust Yahweh and demand He give an account of himself to satisfy THEIR curiosity. "We know in part"? No way! Explain Yourself NOW! You know, nevermind. We'll explain Yahweh for Yahweh to our satisfaction and arrogant gratification.
Numbers 24:2 Balaam lifted up his eyes, and he saw Israel dwelling according to their tribes; and the Spirit of God came on him.
I loved this video! I am a firm Muslim, but I was raised as a catholic/Christian (I am from Dominican Republic) & I always questioned the trinity until islam reassured my heart in many ways. Nonetheless I have always tried to explain this fact to christians but they always use verses from John to try & claim that the trinity IS biblical so this video helped me so much not only did it enlighten me on some nee scholars & references to look into, but it also helps me make stronger arguments against the trinity! Continue to do gods work & may God bless you all & guide us all & grant us paradise AMEEN!
I say with all love and the hope that you find truth. The Vatican created Islam. Do your research please. A Jesuit priest exposed this. The only answer is The Kingdom. The Kingdom of Elohim (A spiritual country with citizens) start your search for truth from here.
I do not believe in the muslim religion because they do not believe that jesus was the son of god which means they are anti christ and the only way to get to heaven is through christ like jesus said so If I were you I would get rid of that false religion and become a christian.
Yeah. I believe much of Yeshua like muslims, where muslims think I'm Muslim. But Christians think I'm Muslim too. But I'm Follower of Yeshua and he says what he says. All power and authority comes from the Father. Scripture states, "God is our defender and the Holy One of Israel is our King." One God and one King. God is omnipresent, thus His Spirit is everywhere. "Me and the Father are one" = being filled with God's Spirit. What is God in relation to a believer, if they are filled with His Spirit... one.
All I know is that if you have to use the words "They" or "Them" to describe one being then you probably aren't describing one being, but more than one being. Just saying 😕.
Amen
The HEAVENLY FATHER has spoken unto us by HIS SON in these last days
The Blessed LORD said that you only come to know the FATHER through HIM " JESUS CHRIST " 🙏
Ephesians ch 6 put on the whole armor of GOD
So can anyone please help me. Where do I worship in the UK? I'm not baptised
We do not have anyone in the UK that has a gathering or anything. We do offer live Sabbath services to those who wish to see them. Services start on Sabbath (Saturday) at 1:30 P.M (Central Time) yrm.org/live
We understand that nothing replaces physical fellowship with people. But this is our best option for those who are at great distance.
Also check out our website if you have any questions. yrm.org
The is Only One True God
God has not beginning and no end how can the son has beginning and end who is creator?
Thank you !!!! Is excellent research to follow and understand.....
I am struggling with Isaiah 44:6 where Yahweh said there is no God beside Him. We know Jesus is called God in John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8 and by Thomas. Can you explain to me the meaning of Isaiah? It's because of this verse I started to believe in the Trinity.
I think the issue people have comes from a misunderstanding of the word "Elohim" (God in English).
The word “elohim” is Hebrew and equivalent to the Greek theos. Below are definitions from the Strong’s Concordance for both words:
elohiym (el-o-heem’); plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative.
theos (theh’-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.
In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:
1) (plural)
a) rulers, judges
b) divine ones
c) angels
d) gods
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
a) God, a god, a goddess
b) god-like one
c) works or special possessions of God
d) the one true God
e) God
Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind. In short, it refers to any exalted position. Regarding the Messiah, few would debate that He is to be exalted. For this reason, He is counted as an elohim. Also, Thomas in John 20:28 refers to Him as a theos. The notable difference between Elohim (including Theos) and God is how they are perceived within Christianity. Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position.
So Yes, Messiah is "God" in that he holds a position of authority at the Fathers right hand. But being an "Elohim" does not make one equal with the Father. And I feel like THAT is what Yahweh is saying in Isaiah 44:6. He truly stands alone in that regard. Elohim does NOT exclusively point to Yahweh alone.
I believe, that Yeshua is Yah in the flesh! Yah took on humanity, through His son. As the Word says, Yeshua was 100% man and 100% God. That’s the way Yahweh showed me. The Word says, that the fullness of the Godhead, is in Yeshua bodily.
Who's the greatest?
So humans killed our God and creator and attained salvation for it? Adam and all of his seed suffered mortality and death for just disobeying him. Now we get Salvation for killing him. That is the trinity. Does it make sense to you still?
The Fullness of Yahweh was also in the Arc of the Covenant...it was not Ya himself. Joshua (Yashua) came after Moses...his name is the same name as Yahwehs only begotten son, was Joshua of amcient times also Yahweh?
If You believe the holy spirit is also an individual being, than essentially you believe no dofferent than the pagans. Zeus came down to impregnate multipld human women. I noticed USUALLY trinitarians also accept and take part in other pagan traditions/holidays..xmas, easter, halloween etc.
Most of the so called Christian world takes part more so in traditions of men than they do in actual scriptural teachings. This is EXACTLY WHY yashua said broad is the road to DESTRUCTION and that MANY would claim doing works in his name and that he'd openly deny thrm. Isnt it amazing that compared to the masses, there's only a relative few that take Yashua for his word that His Father is GREATER THAN HE....PERIOD. The masses in contrast put words in Yashuas mouth and tell him that he is EQUAL to the Father
No where, ever, at all, does it say that Yeshua is fully man and fully God. At all. No one in the entire Bible thought Yeshua was God. Period. Stop believing lies and ask Yah to open up your understanding. Saying it was really “Yah” really takes away the sacrifice he gave by giving His only Son to die for our sins.
By saying Yeshua was 100% God means He is divine. But how can he die if he is divine? So people like you are saying that Yeshua didn’t really die since he is divine. That is a Gnostic belief and denies the atonement and death of Yeshua. What is so difficult to understand about the Gospel saying that the Word became flesh? Became flesh means Yeshua was not divine when he walked as a man!
how can you be equal to father ?
What year was LORD YESHUA risen? What year did the Trinity come?
No trinity is pagan origin
You said the Holy Spirit is the power/force of God...
Why are we instructed to have communion (koinōnia- fellowship) with the Holy Spirit? (2 Cor. 13:14).
Also,,, if Jesus is not God, then does that mean Jesus loves me more then Elohim? For "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
If Jesus is not Elohim then the love of Jesus is greater then the love of Elohim for Elohim may have gave His Son, however He did not give Himself..?
Here is our Study on the Tinity: yrm.org/identifying-father-son-holy-spirit/
Also, we do believe Messiah was/is Elohim. The word “elohom” is Hebrew and equivalent to the Greek theos. Below are definitions from the Strong’s Concordance for both words:
elohiym (el-o-heem’); plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative.
theos (theh’-os); of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with NT:3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.
In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:
1) (plural)
a) rulers, judges
b) divine ones
c) angels
d) gods
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
a) God, a god, a goddess
b) god-like one
c) works or special possessions of God
d) the one true God
e) God
Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind. In short, it refers to any exalted position. Regarding the Messiah, few would debate that He is to be exalted. For this reason, He is counted as an elohim. Also, Thomas in John 20:28 refers to Him as a theos. The notable difference between Elohim (including Theos) and God is how they are perceived within Christianity. Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry you didn’t really answer his question. He said,
1. Greater love has no one then to lay down their life for their friend
2. Jesus laid his life down for us
3. God the Father did not lay his life down for us if Jesus and God are separate beings
4. Therefore did Jesus love us more then the then the Father since he was the one to lay his life down? That’s the question that was asked I believe. I think the questioner asked it because it seems preposterous that God the Father’s love would be less.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry no, Thomas did not refer to Yeshua as “Elohim”, if he did then he totally missed everything Yeshua taught them.
““Stop holding onto me,” Yeshua said to her, “because I haven’t yet gone back to the Father. But go to my brothers, and tell them that I am going back to my Father and your Father, to ***MY God and YOUR God***.””
Yochanan (Jhn) 20:17
“And eternal life is this: to know you, the one true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah.”
Yochanan (Jhn) 17:3
ONE and only ONE Elohim.
Yeshua is the origin of Gods creation (Rev 3:14). A created being cannot be God. God cannot be a man and God cannot be tested. Period.
@@plants_and_wellness1574 The issue comes from translating Elohim into God. Sure it CAN mean "God" ie Yahweh. However, Elohim is a much broader term and is used to describe Men, Kings, Angels, Judges etc... However, it also describe Yahweh himself. When Elohim was translated solely as "God" it absolutely muddied the waters on what "Elohim" actually means.
So to say Yahshua was Elohim is NOT saying he is "God" in the common sense.
We are NOT claiming Yahshua is "God" in the sense of the Father. Absolutely not. We believe Yahshua is Elohim and that does not mean we believe he is now equal to Yahweh in any way.
According to the Englishman’s Concordance, this term Elohim occurs 2,597 in the Hebrew text. While it is singular in usage, it can be used in the plural form, as a collective noun. Strong’s defines this term as, “…plural of OT:433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative. ”The Complete Word Study Old Testament further states, “Elohim; this masc. noun is pl. in form but it has both sing. and pl. uses. In a pl. sense it refers to rulers or judges with divine connections (Ex. 21:6); pagan gods (Ex. 18:11; Ps. 88:8); and probably angels (Ps. 8:5; 97:7)…In the sing. sense it is used of a god or a goddess (1 Sam. 5:7; 2 Kgs. 18:34); a man in a position like a god (Ex. 7:1); God (Deut. 7:9; Ezra 1:3; Is. 45:18 and many other passages,” Lexical Aids, 430. The following provide additional evidence for the singular and plural usages of elohim, beginning with the singular.
Singular:
• “And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations” (Ex 3:15).
• “When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law, heard of all that Elohim had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that Yahweh had brought Israel out of Egypt” (Ex. 18:1).
• “Seven days shalt thou keep a solemn feast unto Yahweh thy Elohim in the place which Yahweh shall choose: because Yahweh thy Elohim shall bless thee in all thine increase, and in all the works of thine hands, therefore thou shalt surely rejoice” (Deut. 16:15). The above examples illustrate elohim in the singular; the remainder provides examples of this word in the plural.
Plural:
• “And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their mighty ones [elohim]: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their mighty ones” (Num. 25:2).
• “Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their mighty ones [elohim], and do sacrifice unto their mighty ones [elohim], and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice” (Ex. 34:15).
• “And they forsook Yahweh Elohim of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other mighty ones [elohim], of the mighty ones [elohim] of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked Yahweh to anger” (Judg. 2:12).
Many assume that because elohim is usually used in the plural, that it must refer to a Trinity. This is an erroneous assumption by many who attempt to force the concept of a triad into the Hebrew elohim. Elohim does not specify a number, only a plurality. It can just as easily mean two heavenly beings.
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry what do you say about Ezekiel 18 where God says that a person cannot die for another person? And God says over and over that he doesn’t want sacrifice, but repentance. God says that if his people repent, he will forgive their sins. And human sacrifice is an abomination. God says that no one can die for your sins and human sacrifice is an abomination, and also no one has to die for your sins because you can just repent and God will forgive you.
Mt 28, 19-20???
It is said that this part was not in the original manuscripts. I too will google this and find out
Thank you for the truth!!!💕
Trinity I saw and heard that it brings anger from Yahweh. I hope that there will be rethinking of this belief and eventually the belief in Jewish monotheism is the fullfilling belief and this will last and bring his consent and joy to humanity.
The hebrews understood who God (jehovah/yahweh) was so much so actually, that they never mistook him for a trinity...which bscause if its incomprehensible nature makes god impossible to truly know or understand.
Why do so called Christians make up such lies or believe them???????
1 John 5
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
So many will be deceived by this message 😢
1John 5:7-8. This passage has been embraced by many as confirming the doctrine of the Trinity, which is best defined through the Athanasian Creed, although scripturally unfounded. The following within parenthesis is absent from all texts prior to the sixteenth century: "For there are three that bear record (in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth), the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one." These additions are universally acknowledged as erroneous by nearly all biblical scholars. Adam Clarke writes that this verse lacks manuscript support. "It is wanting in every manuscript of this letter written before the invention of printing, one excepted, The Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve" (Adam Clarke's Commentary). The Jerusalem Bible concurs that it "is not in any of the early Greek mss. or any of the early translations, or in the best mss of the Vulgate itself." The New International Version and Companion Bible maintain that the phrase did not exist in any Greek manuscripts before the 16th century. It is also missing in the Revised Standard Version. The Harper Collins Study Bible says, "Only a few very unreliable manuscripts contain the trinitarian addition to verse 7." Benjamin Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott of the Greek text says, "It is not cited by any of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by any of the early Latin fathers, even when the subjects upon which they treat would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."
Yahweh's Restoration Ministry utter nonsense!
If you quote from those who are against the true lineage of the bible then you will only get the answers of those who do not want the truth!
Actually apart from the church fathers quoting John 5:7 you will find it before the 16th century e.g
200 AD Tertullian wrote "which three are one" based on the verse in his Against Praxeas, chapter 25.
250 AD Cyprian of Carthage, wrote, "And again, of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost it is written: "And the three are One" in his On The Lapsed, On the Novatians, (see note for Old Latin)
350 AD Priscillian referred to it [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]
350 AD Idacius Clarus referred to it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 62, col. 359.]
350 AD Athanasius referred to it in his De Incarnatione
398 AD Aurelius Augustine used it to defend Trinitarianism in De Trinitate against the heresy of Sabellianism
415 AD Council of Carthage appealed to 1 John 5:7 when debating the Arian belief (Arians didn't believe in the deity of Jesus Christ)
450-530 AD Several orthodox African writers quoted the verse when defending the doctrine of the Trinity against the gainsaying of the Vandals. These writers are:
A) Vigilius Tapensis in "Three Witnesses in Heaven"
B) Victor Vitensis in his Historia persecutionis [Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. vii, p. 60.]
C) Fulgentius in "The Three Heavenly Witnesses" [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 65, col. 500.]
500 AD Cassiodorus cited it [Patrilogiae Cursus Completus, Series Latina by Migne, vol. 70, col. 1373.]
550 AD Old Latin ms r has it
550 AD The "Speculum" has it [The Speculum is a treatise that contains some good Old Latin scriptures.]
750 AD Wianburgensis referred to it
800 AD Jerome's Vulgate has it [It was not in Jerome's original Vulgate, but was brought in about 800 AD from good Old Latin manuscripts.]
1000s AD miniscule 635 has it
1150 AD minuscule ms 88 in the margin
1300s AD miniscule 629 has it
157-1400 AD Waldensian (that is, Vaudois) Bibles have the verse
1500 AD ms 61 has the verse
Even Nestle's 26th edition Greek New Testament, based upon the corrupt Alexandrian text, admits that these and other important manuscripts have the verse: 221 v.l.; 2318 Vulgate [Claromontanus]; 629; 61; 88; 429 v.l.; 636 v.l.; 918; l; r.
and the Word was made flesh and walked among us and we beheld his glory the glory as of the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth.
@@resident9011 the word dwelt there, means tabernacled... an allusion reference to the old temple that God indwelled, the new temple is Jesus's Body. The incarnate deity.
Constantine had eusubeus write their new testament books and made up the trinity based on pagan myths from babylon, iranian, india and Egyptian, and logos name of ieous or known as jesus. That formed their roman new world religion. There is no trinity but only One True God Yahweh Amen
ridiculous
24:37 it says in Isaiah 9:6
Father and Jesus as Ellohim (plurals) not singular.
Did you know about it???
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
A scholarly presentation.
The Catholic Church brought what they call the "holy trinity doctrine" into Christianity !
The trinity doctrine is not biblical.
There is one God, The Father.
Christ is His only begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature).
The spirit belongs to God and not a different person to him.
The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The Holy Spirit is not a 3rd God !
called God The Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth ''THE SPIRIT OF HIS SON'' into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
The Holy Spirit = The Spirit of God and Christ
God is God the Father !
Jesus is the only begotten SON OF God (Divine) !
and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that reveals all truth.
John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Jesus Christ himself said that His Father is greater than Him.
Jesus Christ the Son of God died for our sins !
not God The Father.
God The Father cannot die.
Deuteronomy 32:39-40
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.
Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Psalm 102:27
But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.
Zechariah 6:13
“Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.”
In this verse it's very clear, the plan of salvation shall be between them both !
1) God The Father !
2) Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son !
Two persons !
not 3.
John 4:21
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
John 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
John 4:23
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
These verses talk about our Father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth.
Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity.
The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery.
When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit".
We will see God face to face, and we will know him.
The Father of Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Catholic Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (now pope Benedict XVI) makes this confession as to the origin of the chief Trinity text of Matthew 28:19 saying: "The basic form of our (Matthew 28:19 Trinitarian) profession of faith took shape during the course of the second and third centuries in connection with the ceremony of baptism.
So far as its place of origin is concerned, the text (Matthew 28:19) came from the city of Rome.
The Trinity baptism and text of Matthew 28:19 therefore did not originate from the original Church that started in Jerusalem around 33 A.D. It was rather, as the evidence proves, a later invention of Roman Catholicism completely fabricated.
Very few know about these historical facts.”
(www.askacatholic.com/_webpostings/answers/2012_01JAN/2012JanWhyWereAdjustmentsMade.cfm)
The Catholic Encyclopedia, II, page 263:
“The baptismal formula was changed from the name of Jesus Christ to the words Father, Son, and Holy Spirit by the Catholic Church in the second century.”
The Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist)
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The Alpha & Omega of Heresy (Playlist)
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Prove All Things ~ by Nader Mansour (Playlist)
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John 8 christ says it clearly, I and the father testify and the testimony of two is true (summarized)
So There is one God, the creator of all the Father, he begot a son and exalted him above every name, they are of the same spirit, as we are called also to be of.
Pretty basic stuff, that the pagans twisted into wickness.
jesus is not god
Adam 1984 where do you think the correct place of worship is in the UK
Adam, you contradict yourself. You say there is one God: the Father. Then you say Jesus is his son who is therefore Divine (God by nature.)
Everything you say after that, which may be true, is therefore made of no effect.
Your first definition of the word God is the identity also called the Father.
Your second definition of the word God is anyone who is considered to be Divine, aka godlike. Now that includes Jesus. So now there are two gods.
You are simply taking the deceptions of Trinitarianism and making it bitheism.
And when we are given the spirit, that would also make us Divine because we will be glorified as well. And that would make us part of the god group as well, making us all gods.
Adam Jesus is not God
I believe in the FATHER ALONE.
Yah the great one love john 5:22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Yah the great one love
Does John 1:1 say Jesus is God ?
John 1:1 says, “(a) In the beginning was the Word, (b) and the Word was with [the] God, (c) and the Word was God.”
That this Divine Word is none other than Jesus Christ is shown by verse 14,
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1 (a) says the Word was in the beginning, but the beginning of what ?
It has to be the beginning of something.
Was it the beginning of this world ?
Was it the beginning of the creation of the angels ?
Whichever beginning you place it at, it has to be the beginning of something.
Many Trinitarians use this to say that Christ has always been, and had no beginning.
But that is not what the verse says.
God had no beginning and has always existed !
Also the Word “with” has to mean something.
The Word was “with” God.
They cannot be the same being, or one could not be with the other.
As John 1:2 NIV says, “He [Jesus] was with God in the beginning.”
The proper rendering of John 1:1 into English from the original Koine Greek text continues to be a source of vigorous debate among Bible translators, and especially the phrase the Word was God (c).
The first verse of John's Gospel says that God's Son Christ Jesus, being referred to as the Word here, was with God in the beginning, (a+b).
John 1:1 (b) does not say that the Messiah is God but was with “the” God.
It is important to note that the word “the” exists in the Greek text and was left out by translators as they probably thought it read wrong, but it is correct and has purpose.
Here is the original Greek text for (1b).
και and 2532 CONJ ο the 3588 T-NSM λογος Word 3056 N-NSM ην was 2258 V-IXI-3S προς with 4314 PREP τον the 3588 T-ASM θεον God 2316 N-ASM
The phrase “the God” identifies the one true God the Father in this verse and so the word “the” is important.
While Jesus is called God in this verse, there is a clear distinction between Him and “the” God whom He was with.
The God whom Jesus was with is “the” God the Father.
Jesus was not the same God He was with but rather Jesus was God in the sense of being divine just like His Father, as being the Son, He inherits the characteristics of His Father.
The Father is God and so His Son is God by nature just as any human by inheritance possesses the very nature and form of humanity.
One can better understand John 1:1 by using the same grammatical structure but with different subjects such as Adam and Eve for example.
“In the beginning was the woman, and the woman was with [the] human, and the woman was human.”
Adam is “the human” and the woman is Eve, but Eve is also human by nature but Eve is not “the human” in identity.
They are two separate persons.
Look at this again with this perspective in mind.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the Deity, and the Word was Deity.”
The Word, the Son was with the supreme Deity the Father, and the Word was Deity in nature.
But the Son was not “the” Deity, the Son was not “the” Father, yet the Son has the Father's divine nature by inheritance.
The Word has the same God quality, the same divine nature and the same God-ness as His Father.
Thus Jesus was with God in the beginning, but He is not “the” God the Father but God by inheritance and nature being the Son.
He is God because He is the Son of God.
It is that simple.
“Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.
He was begotten, not created.
HE IS OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FATHER, SO THAT IN HIS VERY NATURE HE IS GOD; and since this is so “it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.” Col. 1:19 ... While both are of the same nature, the Father is first in point of time.
He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while Christ's personality had a beginning.”
(E.J. Waggoner, ST, April 8, 1889)
Adam & Eve vs. The Trinity ~ by Nader Mansour
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Yah the great one love
1 John 2:23
"No one who denies the Son can have the Father; whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well."
ADAM 1984====PAULO=====BRAZIL=====Very well put!!!
@@Adam-1984 I disagree Adam. The word is the word of God: the Father alone. John 1:1-5 is about the Father alone. He creates by his word, and in it's due time, it created Jesus, just as in your due time it created you. God knew you from the beginning of creation and his word made all things. When his word made Jesus, his word is still his, and does what he says. Jesus is a result of the word made flesh, not the word itself. The words of God you read in the scriptures are God's words, God character, manifest from God, but you can understand that they are not actually him. They represent him. Jesus represented God the same way God's words represent God. God speaks and things happen as he says, when they should.
Here is how I understand John 1:1-5:
(my interpretation):
1 In the beginning of creation just as in the beginning of the ministry of Jesus, was the Word of God the Father, and it was toward and regarded God, and what God the Father was, his Word was.
2 This same word of the Father it was in the beginning of all things.
3 All things were made by it; and without it was not any thing made that was made.
4 In it was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light of it shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
(Now we are back to the subject of the time of Jesus.)
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John."
And then at that point it ties in with Jesus, after taking about John the Baptist.
God is the light. His word made Jesus who represented this light to men. This light was in Jesus. Jesus was it's Tabernacle, just as all Children of God will be. It gave Jesus his words to say, and his work to do, and it resurrected him and glorified him after his obedient work was done.
Part of the deception and struggle we all face because of it, is the Trinitarian bias of the translators.
They deceptively chose to translate with a Trinitarian bias, deceivng many in the process. This was due to the one-world government council's back in the 300's.
But if you look at a Geneva Bible for example, you can detect it, see through it, because it is evidence to show how they changed "it" to "him" to make us think the word of God was a person named Jesus, taking the focus off of God and placing it onto Jesus, replacing God with Jesus.
The Greek word "autos" can be translated as "it" or "him" or "her" or "they" depending upon the context/subject being addressed.
If it's the word of God, then it is "it."
If you want to twist it towards a Trinitarian bias to mean Jesus, translate it as "him."
I live in Kelowna Canada. I have come to realize that the trinity is not biblical and may very well be the teaching of demons. I have been looking for a church or group or even a single person to worship God and study his word with. Can anyone out there help me or put me in contact with. Hebrews 10 : 25
This Channel is very good...Also look up Triumph In Truth very Good Teaching as Well....
No one knows how to pronounce our heavenly father's name. Some are convinced with Jehova and show their "proofs" for it, others say Jahwe and claim as well to have their proofs, other say Jahohua others x others x... matter of fact is, nobody really knows! Can we agree on that? Thanks!
Yes! His name is sadly lost in terms of pronunciation. We call him Jehovah in English and a lot of biblical names are build after God's name like Jehoshaphat and any names containing "jah" like Elijah and others. Even Hallelujah means praise God! We all try our best to remember his name. We can compare it to Michael in English and Miguel in Spanish. Both means the same name. Either way, he wants us to call him by his name. If any of his loving followers knew the correct way of saying it, then we would gladly say it to him out of love. 💕
Well said brother.
Only two Divine beings are in heaven in the Godhead family for now until the Resurrections takes place. The Holy Spirit is not God the Spirit but Spirit of God.
All esteem Yahuah Elohim and Yahusha Ha Mashiach HalleluYah
I know the Bible teaches only the Father is the one true God (John 17:3) but what about the verses that call Jesus God?
I am talking about verses like:
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God"
^Here we see there are two gods? In the same gospel of John where only Father is true God, we see God, being in the beginning with God? Thats TWO?
How is that possible? Could you explain this verse to me. This same language is used in Hebrews 1:8 where the Father calls the son God.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
I beg of you, please explain these two verses to me and how they dont threaten monotheism.
I think this will help you out: yrm.org/identifying-father-son-holy-spirit/
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry Thank you sirs. Salute from finland!
According to Trinitarians, it doesn't threaten monotheism because it's what 1 God. Jesus and the Father are the same being in their belief, although they are not the same person if that makes sense.
@@jacobbergau6009 Jesus is not god
The concept of the trinity will differ in rd h mind. What is needed is the revelation of the scripture.
Isa. 22:15-25 will come to pass soon which states that Jesus will be dethroned and the messiah Yahshua will be exalted.
Where in the Bible does God say, "Thus says the LORD, 'I am Triune.'' In fact, the Bible does not teach the Trinity. The Trinity is man's definition of God, which was never given by God. Martin Luther preached that "It is indeed true that the name 'Trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Holy Scriptures, but has been conceived and invented by man" (The Sermons of Martin Luther, John Lenker, editor, Vol. 3, 1988, p. 406). The Trinity is not revealed by God, is not understandable, and is man's attempt to define God! What? Historian H.G. Wells, wrote, "There is no evidence that the apostles...ever heard of the Trinity--at any rate from Him" (The Outline of History, Vol. 2, p. 499). The Bible does teach that all things were given to the Son (Matthew 11:27-30). The Bible tells us that no man has seen the Father at any time (John 1:18). We, the children of Adam and Adam himself, have never seen the Father at any time. We have only beheld the Son of God, who because He was given all things is our only God, as the Father declares the Son to be our Creator (Hebrews 1:10). All the people who have claimed to see God, it was the Son they saw. Ask yourself, who is speaking here, the Father or the Son? “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides Me there is no God. And who can proclaim as I do? Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me, since I appointed the ancient people. And the things that are coming and shall come, let them show these to them. Do not fear, nor be afraid; have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one’” (Isaiah 44:6-8).
Who is the Rock?
The apostle Paul gives the answer: "Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ" (1 Corinthians 10:1-4). The Father has nothing to do with sin but has given all things to the Son, who alone is our God. Christ alone is the Shema of Israel (Deuteronomy 6:4). When all things are complete and death is no more, then the Son will turn everything back over to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:20-28). In the name of Christ, I declare to you that the Trinity is false! The Trinitarians have taken control of Christianity, it is time for a change back to the truth. A Christian is not to be defined by the Trinitarians. Christians do not have to be Trinitarian to be a Christian!
The term trinity is late, but it was coined in Ethiopia, by Terutullian.
The Godhead was expressed however in the EXACT same manner as the Trinity by Ignatius.
More than that, Israel means one who wrestles with God. Was that God, the one that no man has seen?
Who did Joshua worship when he took of his shoes?
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God."
"The Father, the Spirit, and the Son. These three are one."
I need a quote from the Hellenistic teaching specifically, or a book written near that time with that teaching. A random quote doesn't do anything for me
This was part 1 of the series, Part 2 is all about the biblical side of things: ua-cam.com/video/Ltf7ZTKUoss/v-deo.html
When I pray, I pray and praise each one separately.
The Edict of Thessalonica was the deciding edict written by Emperor Theodosius in 380 A.D. and enforced via the Roman sword. Look up his edict and read it yourself. It was blended into the Cappadocian fathers' (laughable) crafted theology at Constantinople in AD 381 yielding the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed. Shema
Do you ever wonder why we ever trusted the Romans? Especially when it dealt with our Heavenly Father? Why would we allow or follow ANYTHING they had to say? I would have been more apt to following the Jews! That’s why we have SO MANY religions today!
New lesson the unholy trinity is Quinn, Brittany, Santana
and that's what you missed on GLEE!
God makes sense? It takes a while to learn His way. He did not make sense to my poor mind. I had to learn His way, this Way of Grace and unfathomable love.
So many verses tell us that Jesus thought it not robbery to be made equal with God. Also, Let's make man in our image and our likeness. No one can deny the plural there. Of course the Son died and the Father raised Him by the power of the Spirit Holy. Same power that is in us. Eph 1. We too were dead to God, who raised us up and made us alive. If the Spirit Holy is God's Spirit, then easily God is one with the Spirit. Now, Jesus claim was to be ONE with the Father. You know this very well. And usually those laughing in any debate at those who present another view, are giving themselves away as somewhat arrogant.... I am not saying you are not saved, but I KNOW,
none other but God could pay for my sin. Who paid for yours?
Jesus Is Not God - Bible Verses
Kermit Zarley
Most Christians believe that Jesus was and is God. That is what the institutional church has taught. Christians professedly rely strongly on the Bible for this belief. Yet there is not a single verse in the Bible which states unequivocally, “Jesus is God,” or the like. Moreover, the New Testament (NT) gospels have no statement by Jesus in which he identifies himself as God. In fact, there are many Bible verses which indicate that Jesus cannot be God by declaring that only the Father is God or by distinguishing Jesus from God. Three irrefutable texts in the NT declare both of these points.
Jesus Himself Teaches that Only the Father is God
First, and foremost, is one of Jesus’ sayings recorded only in the Gospel of John. The setting is the Last Supper, right before he was arrested and crucified. He prayed for his disciples, saying, “Father,… This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent” (John 17.3). So, Jesus says of the Father that he is “the only true God” and then distinguishes himself from that one God. Both of these points clearly indicate that Jesus himself cannot also be God.
There are two other times the Johannine Jesus identified the Father as the only God. Earlier, he told his Jewish opponents that the Father is “the one and only God” (John 5.44). And again, at the Last Supper, Jesus distinguished himself from this one and only God by commanding his disciples, “believe in God, believe also in Me” (14.1).
Paul Teaches that Only the Father is God
The other two NT passages which irrefutably establish that only the Father is God and distinguish Jesus from God are in Paul’s letters. He writes to the church at Corinth, “There is no God but one…. yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him” (1 Corinthians 8.4, 6). Here, Paul clearly declares that for Christians there is one God, who is the Father, and there is no other God, so that Jesus is not God.
Many traditionalist scholars cite this passage to support that Jesus preexisted, thus concluding that he was God. Yet in doing so, they often ignore its double declaration that there is only one God, who is the Father. Even if Jesus did preexist, this does not prove that he was God. Second Temple Judaism regarded that some righteous men preexisted, and Jews did not conclude that such preexistence indicated that they actually were God/gods.
The third irrefutable NT text which establishes that there is God, who is the Father, and distinguishes Jesus from God is in Paul’s letter to the Ephesians. He writes, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph 4.4-6). Here, Paul implicitly identifies Jesus Christ as “one Lord” and distinguishes him from the “one God,” whom he unequivocally identifies as “the Father.” Paul is a unique author of NT literature in that he exclusively and consistently calls Jesus “Lord” and the Father “God.” Therefore, he never calls Jesus “God.”
So, these three NT passages-John 17.3; 1 Corinthians 8.4, 6; and Ephesians 4.4-6-establish without any doubt that only the Father is God, so that Jesus cannot be God.
Other Witnesses That Only the Father is God
One of many other NT passages which confirm that Jesus is not God is his encounter with the rich young ruler. This man sincerely asked Jesus, “‘Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?’ And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone’” (Mark 10.17-18/Luke 18.18-19; cf. Matthew 19.16-17).
Many Christians have been confused by this saying, thinking that Jesus implies that he himself is not good. Yet the NT often declares that Jesus was such a righteous man that he never sinned (Acts 3.14; 2 Corinthians 5.21; Hebrews 4.15; 7.26; 2 Peter 2.22).
Then what did Jesus mean when he said, “no one is good but God alone”? In the OT, Judaism, and especially Hellenistic theism, only the one God was considered “good” in an absolute sense. This must be what Jesus meant in this encounter. Humans were called “good” only in a derived sense, with God being recognized as the Source of goodness.
Many NT passages show that Jesus was not God. For instance, the NT often declares that God sent Jesus, God was with Jesus in his mission, and God raised him from the dead. Peter preached about “Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst” (Acts 2.22). Peter later proclaimed about “Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good, and healing all who were oppressed by the devil; for God was with Him” (10.38).
In the salutations of all ten of Paul’s NT letters he identifies God as the Father, distinguishes God from Jesus Christ, and he never mentions the Holy Spirit. He typically writes, “Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” This evidence further affirms that only the Father is God and that Jesus is not God.
Moreover, the Bible contains several verses which state unambiguously that Jesus had a God, and most say his God was the Father. When Jesus hung upon the cross he quoted Psalm 22.1, crying out to the Father, “MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME” (Matthew 27.46/Mark 15.34). The day Jesus was resurrected, he said to Mary Magdalene, “I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God” (John 20.17). And three times the Apostle Paul writes about “the God and Father of our/the Lord Jesus (Christ)” (Romans 15.6; 2 Corinthians 1.3; 11.31; cf. Ephesians 1.17). Finally, the heavenly Jesus is quoted five times saying “My God” (Revelation 3.2, 12; cf. 1.6).
The Verse that Made Me Think
The one verse that caused this author to first question whether Jesus is God is Jesus’ saying in his Olivet Discourse about the time of his return. He said, “But of that day and/or hour no one knows, not even the angels of/in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone” (Matthew 24.36/Mark 13.32). Since Jesus did not know the time of his return he could not have been God, for he reveals that God the Father did know it. Orthodox Christian theology has always insisted that God is omniscient, knowing everything, including everything about the future. Accordingly, Jesus could not have been God.
Sir may I call your attention, can you please listen to Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) the doctrine and views about the trinity is the same as your religion❤️ We appreciate your stand❤️
I hope when you say we believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit that you stress the fact that the biblical unitarian definition of these terms are truly biblical and not how it is defined by "trinitarians." As stated in the introduction of the message sounded somewhat contradictory (although I ma sure it's been a bit misspoken...at least I hope so.) Other then that, great message!!!
This matter of 'child sacrifice' never crossed His mind...
The Bible (KJV) mentions God the father 171 times, God the Son zero (0) times. God the Holy Spirit zero (0) times.
Holy Spirit is refered to as an Action Verb and not a noun. God or angels working through people is Holy Spirit which is action not a person, place or thing.
1st Corinthians mentions The Son being an image of God but refered to Adam not Jesus.
Yahshua could pay for the penalty of sin because He took the form of man and lived a sinless life.
As a MAN, Adam sinned and because of that, all mankind was condemned. As a man, Yahshua was obedient unto death and because of that, mankind is saved.
It really isn't complicated.
Yahuah is God and Yahshua is His Son.
1 John 5:8 “These three are one.”
How can they be one as John says if they are not one.
Genesis 1:26 “And God said, let us make man in our image…”
אֱלֹהִים ’elôhîym is translated God and is plural, hence the pronouns us and our.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
The Jews then took up stones to stone Jesus because he declared himself the “I am” who made himself known to Moses.
John 10:30. I and my Father are one.
John 10:38 that ye may know that and believe that the Father is in me and I in him.
And they tried to kill Jesus again because he made himself to be God. That is why they crucified him.
Matthew 1:22 Behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God (θεός theos ) with us.
The Son is God with us.
For brevity I have not given all the Scriptures surrounding but these are all in context and the references are there for anyone to look up.
An explanation for your “twinity” is that the Comforter had not yet been sent.
God introduces himself to man slowly as in the case of Moses. The Holy Spirit was not a question to be brought up before he was promised by Christ in John 14-16. The fact that there is debate amongst people only shows how people don’t understand who God is. (I don’t believe that we can fully understand who God is yet just from what he has revealed to us in the Scriptures. His ways are higher than our ways and his thoughts higher than our thoughts) We can understand what God has given to us to understand.
(Pardon me if you will, I speak English. I do use the English words. I understand that you will probably anathematize me for this)
Unger’s Bible Dictionary, not fringe and a well recognized source by today’s Bible students, says that the Trinity “is essential to the understanding of the Scriptures.”
Could it be that satan tries to imitate God and makes trinities in every false religion to add confusion. Even satan quotes Scripture (out of context) to destroy.
It’s interesting how people redefine the word one to make their point of view legit. God is simply one in number, not unity. The shema should be proof of the numerical one but instead people say it’s a complex unity. However mark 12 proves it’s a numerical 1 not unity.⬇️
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:🤔
There is no debate. the trinity = co existent, is automatically disproved by one word in the Bible. LORD / YEHOVAH which defined is (self existent)
Old testament, New Testament, Quran is the Final Testament.
There s 1 God
And three persons
One God
But they are 3
There is one Yahweh (The Father)
One Holy Spirit (Yahweh's power not a person)
One Son of Yahweh (Yahshua the Messiah)
They are NOT 3 in one
@@YahwehsRestorationMinistry Your belief concerning the Holy Spirit is no different than the theology of the Jehovah's Witnesses. Look again in the New Testament, the Holy Spirit is referred to in the personal pronoun.
The High Priest Atoned for the sins of the people. He would have been 100% HUMAN. Jesus is our High Priest.
🤣 another pagan trinity
The word elohim is a plural noun for "gods" or "deities". Yes trinity is not in the bible but God head is. But in the end God is One God but three separate persons. If any one denies Jesus as God and part of the God head is an anti-Christ and is to be marked.
Singular:
• “And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Yahweh Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations” (Ex 3:15).
• “When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses’ father in law, heard of all that Elohim had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that Yahweh had brought Israel out of Egypt” (Ex. 18:1).
• “Seven days shalt thou keep a solemn feast unto Yahweh thy Elohim in the place which Yahweh shall choose: because Yahweh thy Elohim shall bless thee in all thine increase, and in all the works of thine hands, therefore thou shalt surely rejoice” (Deut. 16:15). The above examples illustrate elohim in the singular; the remainder provides examples of this word in the plural.
Plural:
• “And they called the people unto the sacrifices of their mighty ones [elohim]: and the people did eat, and bowed down to their mighty ones” (Num. 25:2).
• “Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their mighty ones [elohim], and do sacrifice unto their mighty ones [elohim], and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice” (Ex. 34:15).
• “And they forsook Yahweh Elohim of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other mighty ones [elohim], of the mighty ones [elohim] of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked Yahweh to anger” (Judg. 2:12).
Many assume that because elohim is usually used in the plural, that it must refer to a Trinity. This is an erroneous assumption by many who attempt to force the concept of a triad into the Hebrew elohim. Elohim does not specify a number, only a plurality. It can just as easily mean two heavenly beings.
Elohim can indeed be plural. But the question must be asked. How does having more then one "Elohim" present = Trinity?
Does the world Elohim mean they are co-equal?
Does the word Elohim mean they are co-eternal?
Does the word Elohim mean they are consubstantial?
In addition to Strong’s, below is another definition for elohim from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon:
1) (plural)
a) rulers, judges
b) divine ones
c) angels
d) gods
2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)
a) God, a god, a goddess
b) god-like one
c) works or special possessions of God
d) the one true God
e) God
Based on these sources, both elohim and theos provide for multiple meanings. While it can refer to Yahweh, our Heavenly Father, it can also refer to false gods, angels, and mankind.
Today, God is understood as a reference to a singular deity (or deities as it pertains to the Trinity). However, elohim and theos, from where god is derived, contains a much broader meaning and can refer to anyone in an exalted position.
This idea that Elohim MUST = "GOD" is simply false and over simplifies the definition of a word in order to fit a narrative.
Elohim is far a broader term then most people realize.
John 10.30 I (that is Jesus) and the Father are one
Pagan father
Let look at " mainstream" religions. The all have pagn / nimrod trinity, they have geeek / roman hellfire, Greek imortal soul, greek roman heaven, most wear Roman religious garb and rituals, idolize the Roman Cross, use the roman calander, celebrate rmRoman holidays, use the Roman Sabath and continue to Roman iesus instead of Yeshua, But all continue to remove or discredit the devine name. Yehovaha.
On the money for 50 minutes…and then ultracrepidarian. Egyptian mythology does not have a trinity. Neither does Hinduism. And The Two Babylons is one of the most unscholarly texts that has ever infected the messianic movement….that said, we will still be recommending this video w/caveat.
Apparently, Horus and ISIS were Aryans, Iranians...
nope, the word aryan is of Indian Origin Sanskrit
@@skepticalorganism7820 pagan Hindu
Eliheim is pleural?, pleural was a Hebrew method of amplifying the original word. We say holy, holy holy. To amplify the intensity of holy! IT DOES NOT INCREASE THE NUMBER. BUT CAN BE APLIED TO MULT GODS AND VERY MIGHTY GODS.
LET US ::: MAKE make man in our image.
7) and HE CREATED THEM Male and female.
Inventors CREATE, JAH. CREATED
Workers MAKE. JESUS IS THE MASTER WORKER.
LET US is a litiary way a superior can include subordant into the conversation. God said. Let us go down and confound their language.
A teacher says to the class,, let us find our seats.
I do believe God sent his only begotten son to die for our sins, I do not believe in the trinity or that we are saved by grace alone. Jesus is the Son of God and faith without works is dead. Works meaning the ten commandments. And without obeying Gods commandments you are not saved jus because you say you believe in Jesus Christ who died for our sins, not to keep sinning.
So in Islam it is said that Muhammad delivered what they call the “Satanic verses” as he was “deceived by Satan”. Those verses were accidentally added to the Quran and then taken out soon after as they were revealed to be false. The verses called for the worship of two additional deities besides their god Allah. Obviously Islam is misguided, however this example shows us a different and interesting perspective as we once again see the principle of the unholy trinity showing up and its undeniable link to a satanic deception.
So you believe that Jesus died for your sins? Or is a god?
Actually, no serious hadith scholar accepts the narration of the satanic verses. The chain of narrators is highly suspect, and so is generally rejected as a complete fairy tail.
Stop your false arugments about Islam
I had subscribed to this channel until I saw this title. I refuse to not believe in the Trinity. My mind is closed to anything else on this matter. I completely believe in the Trinity!! Bon voyage!!
Well, we are sorry to see you go. yrm.org/identifying-father-son-holy-spirit/
Well. It’s your choice to believe lies and you will be held responsible on judgement day. Trinity is not biblical. At all. Period. It’s a lie and a false doctrine. Saying otherwise is calling Elohim and His Son a liar. They disagree with you. I hope you find the truth.
1+1+1=1 pagan Christianity 🤣
Very, very well done. Trinity is just so false....
The Two Babylons is a religious pamphlet, not a scholarly proof-text.
Alexander Hislop expanded on and published this BOOK in 1858 and it is indeed a very scholarly piece sir. Try to investigate to get your facts straight before coming on so offish like you actually know what your talking about.
I had been talking with a couple of different trinitarian and they explained their idea of the "NATURE of God"
It seems that they view God as the name of a species of being. For example here on earth, we have many species, (natures) Humans, cats, dogs, horses etc Each species as many members. Ther view of the three "persons" of the trinity are the only members of the species, tghat is that only those three have the "God nature" (as we have human nature)
Evidently they do not understand that the word god just means "A mighty one" and is used of many diiferent types of "mighty ones" in the Bible including a reference to mountains
The doctrine of the Trinity is a man-made doctrine, twisted together by deceived minds from misunderstood interpretations of a few verses of scripture.
Essentially it is polytheism disguised as Monotheism. Five false gods presented as three, covered up to be "one."
1. God is the Father
2. God is also the son.
3. God is also the Holy Spirit
4. God is all three at once - the Triune Being
5. God is also the Divine Nature
More than one definition of god is another god.
All of these are claimed to be "one god."
That simply means they are all part of one group called "god."
More than one person as god is more than one god.
It's the number of persons/identities that distinguishes and determines Polytheism vs Monotheism.
It's idolatry.
They are unreal, they are not from scripture despite being hijacked out of scripture.
It's amazing how easy it is to deceive masses of humanity, since people in general believe what other people tell them.
yup... Three PERSONS.... ONE GOD-->[1Jo 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1John 5:7-8. This passage has been embraced by many as confirming the doctrine of the Trinity, which is best defined through the Athanasian Creed, although scripturally unfounded. The following within parenthesis is absent from all texts prior to the sixteenth century: "For there are three that bear record (in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth), the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in one." These additions are universally acknowledged as erroneous by nearly all biblical scholars. Adam Clarke writes that this verse lacks manuscript support. "It is wanting in every manuscript of this letter written before the invention of printing, one excepted, The Codex Montfortii, in Trinity College, Dublin: the others which omit this verse amount to one hundred and twelve" (Adam Clarke's Commentary). The Jerusalem Bible concurs that it "is not in any of the early Greek mss. or any of the early translations, or in the best mss of the Vulgate itself." The New International Version and Companion Bible maintain that the phrase did not exist in any Greek manuscripts before the 16th century. It is also missing in the Revised Standard Version. The Harper Collins Study Bible says, "Only a few very unreliable manuscripts contain the trinitarian addition to verse 7." Benjamin Wilson's Emphatic Diaglott of the Greek text says, "It is not cited by any of the Greek ecclesiastical writers; nor by any of the early Latin fathers, even when the subjects upon which they treat would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."
restoration ministry.... in this verse God REVEALS to us(men) that HIS WORD is PURE and UNCORRUPTED-->[Psa 12:6 KJV] 6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
and in the NEXT VERSE HE(GOD) REVEALS to us(men) that HIS WORD WILL REMAIN UNCORRUPTED FOREVER-->[Psa 12:7 KJV] 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
so when HE(GOD) revealed to us(men) that HE(God) consist of THREE EQUAL PERSONS-->[1Jo 5:7 KJV] 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
what verse do you have to back your "notion"?
There is a problem with your logic. The verse you are so galliantly defending is not in the original text. so therefore, how could psalms 12:6 apply to it? There verse says: The words of Yahweh are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Now, ask yourself. "What if men added their OWN words to the scriptures?" Would those be covered by Psalms 12:6?
If it were impossible to corrupt and alter Yah's word why would he declare a punishment for it? (Revelation 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32, Deuteronomy 4:2)
We here at YRM do indeed believe that the word of Yahweh is as Psalms 12:6 says: "...pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."
We do not, however believe that the Bible itself is untainted by man. It has been proven to have been tampered with in many locations.
Which is why it is OUR responsibility to "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (1 thes 5:21)
It is the TRUE word of Yahweh that is Good. If there is proof of a lie being peddled as breathed scripture it is OUR job to refute it.
If you discover what you THOUGHT was true turned out to be false, would you defend it?
There are DOZENS of errors in the KJV. It is a fair translation compared to others, sure. But to claim that Psalms 12:6 is speaking of the KJV is asinine, historicly false, and intellectually dishonest.
So, we do not have a "Notion" as you call it. We have facts history and Yahweh's ACTUAL word on our side. While you have just defended a verse that scholarship and even the Church as acknowledge is no more than a mere notion.
“The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century… Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective” (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. 14).
Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture ... But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels,” - (Assumption of Mary, Life magazine, Oct 30, 1950, p. 51)
“The Alexandria catechetical school, which revered Clement of Alexandria and Origen, the greatest theologian of the Greek Church, as its heads, applied the allegorical method to the explanation of Scripture. Its thought was influenced by Plato: its strong point was [pagan] theological speculations. Athanasius and the three Cappadocians [the men whose Trinitarian views were adopted by the Catholic Church at the Councils of Nicaea and Constantinople] had been included among its members.” - (Hubert Jedin, Ecumenical Councils of the Catholic Church: an Historical Outline, 1960, p. 28)
There are literally DOZENS more.
We have heard it all before. Why people line up to defend a plain and obvious falsity is testament to Satan's deceptive power.
Yahweh's Restoration Ministry IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. JOHN 1:1. You dont have a verse do you?
John 1:1-3. The Word refers to the preexistent Messiah. John confirms, "In the beginning was the 'Messiah,' and the 'Messiah' was with 'Yahweh,' and the 'Messiah' was 'a Mighty One.'" The Greek Diaglott clarifies by saying a mighty one was the Word. The Complete Bible, an American Translation, reads, "In the beginning the Word existed. The Word was with (Elohim) and the Word was divine." Elohim is generic for mighty ones. In the OT this word applied to Yahweh, false deities, angels, and to man. In the context of this passage, Elohim refers to both the Father and Son. For additional evidence of Yahshua's preexistence and role in creation, see Genesis 1:1, 26; Proverbs 8:22-30; 30:4; Matthew 22:44; John 3:13; 4:34; 6:38, 62; 8:23, 58; 17:5; Colossians 1:13-16; 1 Corinthians 10:4; Revelation 3:14.
This is a new conversation to me. I was always taught the trinity was like an egg. The shell the whites and the yolk. (Father, son, holly spirit) they’re different but the same. I was never taught 3 different people with 3 different personalities.