Nice informative video. Now my wife wants to trade her 2017 2.5 limited outback to a 3.6r limited or touring. What was I thinking showing her this video!!!
I really like the 2018 front end style now much better than the previous years. I have a 2014 outback and thinking of trading it in if the new one is advanced enough to make it worth while as these cars last so long, mine is at 120000 miles with no problems at all. I love all the electronics and auto driving safety warning features, I try to always have these full on ;-) The only thing I really hate is the newer 2015 plus outback CVT's trying to mimic the old obsolete geared transmissions with fake gear shifts completely negating the great benefits of ideal power and torque delivery to the drive train for the best overall optimization. Instead of trying to mimic the old technology just to please the gear headed people who can not appreciate the CVT technology and accept it for what it is, I wish Subaru would install a switch to turn it on and off marked "old school fake shift on/off". I am thinking the towing limit is due to the drive train and overall physics of the vehicle, not the engine size. I was hoping for a live drive POV around the block to show off the eyesite and navigator in action as I know it has been greatly improved over my 1st. generation one. I am torn between the 4 and 6 cylinder engines as I miss my 2004 STi so I am used to a lot of power but I can only have one car now and I know I will drive it less if I have to budget for gas, I only wish the 4 had about 20 more horse power and torque. Lastly I do not like the wheels, I wish the 18 inch wheel design was more simple like a 4 or 5 spoke design so it is easy to keep clean and looks good :-)
I agree. The lousy and flimsy roofrack is the most significant problem I have with my Outback, which mars an otherwise good vehicle. I no longer recommend to friends for this reason.
If you value recreational outdoor pursuits such as kayaking, or need to carry larger equipment on the roofracks my advice is to stay away from these vehicles. The roofracks "support the active lifestyle image" but in practice have serious shortfalls (so I have buyer's remorse!) This style of roof rack came with my MY2015 Subaru Outback in Australia, and I have found it awful for kayaking and many other applications. The problems I've noticed are: 1) insufficient width (breadth) between the rails to carry two kayaks, especially the beamier fishing kayaks I use (which at 80cm are too wide to put up on their edge safely). . 2) insufficient adjustability in the fore and aft direction to space the cross bars more widely apart for longer items (including kayaks) 3) nowhere easily accessible protruding to tie off ropes/ straps (in the past the protruding ends of the cross bars served this purpose nicely) - so you have to reach in and under the cross beams to find some space to tie off - in a space already narrowed by kayak holders this becomes awkward. 4) inadequate load rating (only 150 lb or about 68kg). to be of use for many circumstances 5) general flimsiness in construction /I note other postings elsewhere saying their system failed / needed replacement under warranty. 6) lack of tie-down points at the very front of the car (which is recommended to increase stability for safe transport of longer items) 7) when I have a kayak up on the rack, it is not possible to open the boot door fully and I have to crouch down and reach up and into the boot to retrieve items. This would be kind of OK if the door was a manual, but in buying the Outback Premium version because of some of the other items I wanted, it turned out that you HAD to have the electrically-operated door - which then becomes a pain to set so it doesn't bump into the bottom of the kayak and then automatically close again. In short - looks nice and sleek, but entirely IMPRACTICAL and I am sad to say that after years of proud Subaru driving I no longer recommend them. What's needed to amend this situation?: A. For future editions of Subaru roof rack redesign - ditch the present system in favour of (perhaps) a sliding track system where the cross bars are inserted and adjustable fore and aft, are wider than the current ones, and also enabling the cross beams to be a few centimetres higher up off the roofline (enabling more space for the boot to open just enough to be useable. Plus sturdier construction. Going back to the old system would be far more preferable than what we have now! B. For current sufferers, please could Subaru design and offer (at reasonable price) a way of removing the current cross bars and replacing with (removeable) plug-in cross beams that are sturdy, wider, and sit a little higher up off the roof. It shouldn't be too hard. Or even just the plugs so we can mount something ourselves! C. Manual boot opening as an alternate option in the Premium models. Most of us in Australia buy Subaru's because of their AWD / recreational applications, NOT just for going to the supermarket.
I love my subaru legacy mk3 tough car and goes everywhere a 4x4 can and more but if there is no manual version offered in these future models i will not buy!! Cvt is the ruination of subaru i have driven 2 and i hate it, yes hate. Keep it for america where they want it not uk we know how to drive.
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Nice informative video. Now my wife wants to trade her 2017 2.5 limited outback to a 3.6r limited or touring. What was I thinking showing her this video!!!
I really like the 2018 front end style now much better than the previous years. I have a 2014 outback and thinking of trading it in if the new one is advanced enough to make it worth while as these cars last so long, mine is at 120000 miles with no problems at all. I love all the electronics and auto driving safety warning features, I try to always have these full on ;-) The only thing I really hate is the newer 2015 plus outback CVT's trying to mimic the old obsolete geared transmissions with fake gear shifts completely negating the great benefits of ideal power and torque delivery to the drive train for the best overall optimization. Instead of trying to mimic the old technology just to please the gear headed people who can not appreciate the CVT technology and accept it for what it is, I wish Subaru would install a switch to turn it on and off marked "old school fake shift on/off".
I am thinking the towing limit is due to the drive train and overall physics of the vehicle, not the engine size. I was hoping for a live drive POV around the block to show off the eyesite and navigator in action as I know it has been greatly improved over my 1st. generation one. I am torn between the 4 and 6 cylinder engines as I miss my 2004 STi so I am used to a lot of power but I can only have one car now and I know I will drive it less if I have to budget for gas, I only wish the 4 had about 20 more horse power and torque. Lastly I do not like the wheels, I wish the 18 inch wheel design was more simple like a 4 or 5 spoke design so it is easy to keep clean and looks good :-)
Still lacking a good roof rack. Why not give the option to choose the roof rack used on all other Subaru models?
I agree. The lousy and flimsy roofrack is the most significant problem I have with my Outback, which mars an otherwise good vehicle. I no longer recommend to friends for this reason.
@@roscoetaylor3429 Is my 2011 different from the rescent years.. My roof rack is rated 200lbs max , what is the problems with yours.
If you value recreational outdoor pursuits such as kayaking, or need to carry larger equipment on the roofracks my advice is to stay away from these vehicles. The roofracks "support the active lifestyle image" but in practice have serious shortfalls (so I have buyer's remorse!)
This style of roof rack came with my MY2015 Subaru Outback in Australia, and I have found it awful for kayaking and many other applications. The problems I've noticed are:
1) insufficient width (breadth) between the rails to carry two kayaks, especially the beamier fishing kayaks I use (which at 80cm are too wide to put up on their edge safely). .
2) insufficient adjustability in the fore and aft direction to space the cross bars more widely apart for longer items (including kayaks)
3) nowhere easily accessible protruding to tie off ropes/ straps (in the past the protruding ends of the cross bars served this purpose nicely) - so you have to reach in and under the cross beams to find some space to tie off - in a space already narrowed by kayak holders this becomes awkward.
4) inadequate load rating (only 150 lb or about 68kg). to be of use for many circumstances
5) general flimsiness in construction /I note other postings elsewhere saying their system failed / needed replacement under warranty.
6) lack of tie-down points at the very front of the car (which is recommended to increase stability for safe transport of longer items)
7) when I have a kayak up on the rack, it is not possible to open the boot door fully and I have to crouch down and reach up and into the boot to retrieve items. This would be kind of OK if the door was a manual, but in buying the Outback Premium version because of some of the other items I wanted, it turned out that you HAD to have the electrically-operated door - which then becomes a pain to set so it doesn't bump into the bottom of the kayak and then automatically close again.
In short - looks nice and sleek, but entirely IMPRACTICAL and I am sad to say that after years of proud Subaru driving I no longer recommend them.
What's needed to amend this situation?:
A. For future editions of Subaru roof rack redesign - ditch the present system in favour of (perhaps) a sliding track system where the cross bars are inserted and adjustable fore and aft, are wider than the current ones, and also enabling the cross beams to be a few centimetres higher up off the roofline (enabling more space for the boot to open just enough to be useable. Plus sturdier construction. Going back to the old system would be far more preferable than what we have now!
B. For current sufferers, please could Subaru design and offer (at reasonable price) a way of removing the current cross bars and replacing with (removeable) plug-in cross beams that are sturdy, wider, and sit a little higher up off the roof. It shouldn't be too hard. Or even just the plugs so we can mount something ourselves!
C. Manual boot opening as an alternate option in the Premium models. Most of us in Australia buy Subaru's because of their AWD / recreational applications, NOT just for going to the supermarket.
The roof rails are rated for 200lbs max. So what is the problem?
Nice video marred by the jarring noise/music.
so this is a hack job edit of other videos.
STYLE ???????????????????????????????????????
I love my subaru legacy mk3 tough car and goes everywhere a 4x4 can and more but if there is no manual version offered in these future models i will not buy!! Cvt is the ruination of subaru i have driven 2 and i hate it, yes hate. Keep it for america where they want it not uk we know how to drive.
The
Guitar music in the beginning is awful. And I'm a player.
CVT? - No, thanks!