Why you should use useState()

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  • Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
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    🔛 Sending state from the server to the client is tricky but necessary when using SSR. And global state management is not the easiest part of an app either. Nuxt's useState composable solves both of these issues - but how? You'll learn in this weeks video!
    Key points:
    ⏩️ How to send state from the server to the client (and potentially fix hydration errors)
    🎉 Global state management without additional dependencies
    🕶 How Nuxt Devtools helps debugging useState
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:54 Demo app overview
    02:18 Fixing hydration errors via useState
    04:48 Inspecting results and DevTools benefits
    05:59 useState and serialization
    07:54 How to not create global state in Nuxt
    11:00 Correct global state implementation with useState
    13:47 A deeper look into using useState for global state
    15:29 Thanks for over 2000 subs 🎉
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    17:08 Summary
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  • @saltytostitos
    @saltytostitos 5 місяців тому +8

    This is fantastic to cover! Love it! Explaining the link to useAsyncData helped me understand useState easily.

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому +1

      Glad it was helpful and happy to hear it closed the gap ✨🎉

  • @Reagan_Dev
    @Reagan_Dev 5 місяців тому +7

    Thank you, for the quality content again. PS. Congratulations on your 2k sub 🙌

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      You are welcome! Glad you enjoy the videos pal 🙏
      Onto the next 2k 😛

  • @YonathanKevin20
    @YonathanKevin20 4 місяці тому

    I really enjoyed your video! It was so clear and detailed, and I thought it was awesome. Keep up the great work!

  • @svenvanreenen
    @svenvanreenen 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you very much for your video's they are really helpful, love them!

  • @michaelpumo83
    @michaelpumo83 5 місяців тому

    Finally just managed to watch this all the way through! Brilliant explanation on useState and I've already thought of a place in my own codebase I could benefit from this. Thanks so much. Oh, and thanks for the raffle prize! Very chuffed. 😄

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot 🙌
      Looking forward to see you in AMS 🎉🎉🎉

  • @mikalai-hryb
    @mikalai-hryb 5 місяців тому +2

    It's a nice explanation and usage. Thank you! I will do it!

  • @virusblitz
    @virusblitz 5 місяців тому

    thank you for making this, great examples!

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому +1

      My pleasure! Happy it helped and the examples were clear 🙌

  • @nhs119nhs119
    @nhs119nhs119 4 місяці тому +1

    Great explanation! Thank you, Alex

  • @A28480
    @A28480 5 місяців тому

    Anothee great video! 👌 tips like this make it much easier for beginner like me to get a comprehensive grasp of how nuxt works under the hood

  • @tolgabeyazoglu536
    @tolgabeyazoglu536 5 місяців тому +1

    it's great video Alex produces content for us and it's free

  •  2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this informative video!

  • @annazu1111
    @annazu1111 Місяць тому +1

    your videos opened my eyes.....

  • @don-cody
    @don-cody 5 місяців тому

    Amazing content

  • @YessenOrazbaiuly
    @YessenOrazbaiuly 3 місяці тому

    Thank you!

  • @carlosvaldesweb7322
    @carlosvaldesweb7322 3 місяці тому

    First of all, excellent videos! I have a problem that I've been stuck on for a while, could you help me? I have a composable called useQuiz, to handle a quiz, its questions, and the options for each question. I would like to manage the state of this quiz with useState in my composable, but I don't know the correct way to store the result of useFetch or useAsyncData in the quiz variable of my composable to manage the state across all child components. Maybe my implementation is not correct, should the result be placed in the onResponse? Or maybe inside the useAsyncData handler?

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  3 місяці тому

      useFetch already uses useState (more or less) under the hood. If you want to further alter the data, you might have to save it in a new useState indeed.
      You could watch the result of useFetch.
      Happy to give better advice with a stackblitz or similar

  • @squidproxy136
    @squidproxy136 4 місяці тому

    thanks for the great content Mr Alexander, please if you can make video explaining JS execution/useFetch on server/client like common issues or tips because that confusing sometimes especially in my case where i want to make ecommerce and for example should i fetch the product (singular) on the server for better SEO while the profile page can be ssr false. Thanks Again

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  3 місяці тому +1

      Fetch all SEO-related data on the server 👍🏻
      Use useFetch/useAsyncData + await it ☺️

    • @squidproxy136
      @squidproxy136 3 місяці тому

      @@TheAlexLichter thank you, that make sense 👍

  • @designerjehovah4453
    @designerjehovah4453 3 місяці тому

    Awesome video. Been using useState so much in my application; it actually helped me understand WHEN to use Pinia as a state management tool. On a sidenote, may I ask if you would be willing to cover how the wrapper component works in Nuxt? I sometimes get mismatches warnings in my console and I resort using to this component but I never fully understood why and I couldn't find a good answer in the community?

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  3 місяці тому +1

      Client-Only "hides" the problem only. I talked about hydration at Vue.js Amsterdam, the talks will be released soon & will link it here. Slides can be found already at github.com/manniL/talk-hydration-vuejs-amsterdam-2024

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  Місяць тому

      Video is up now! ua-cam.com/video/TYyEjN0UrfA/v-deo.html

  • @ronaldjuarez8991
    @ronaldjuarez8991 5 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video! I have a question, why do you think it is wrong to use a global state in a composable even if you are not using SSR. Regards!

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому +1

      Good question! I wouldn't say that it is bad practice overall, but when using nuxt and (one day) switching to SSR, you might run into the issue from above without noticing.
      Instead I'd go with a more explicit way, e.g. a "globalState" file that exports these `ref`s/`reactive`.

    • @doluadao1995
      @doluadao1995 2 місяці тому

      Sometimes you don't know what component is mutating the global state in composable when composable is used in many place, so debuging can become very challenging. But with a very carefull use, it can be very handy for some case.

  • @djxak
    @djxak 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the explanation!
    What should I use instead of useState() if I do not want to create a **global** state? I mean, useState() always needs a key or uses file:line as a key. But what if I need to create an SSR-friendly composable, that should return **new** state (just like a Ref) on each call? Let's say I want useRandom() composable (it's not what I really need, but I think it is a good example to understand the problem).
    Without SSR I can just use a Ref. useState() needs a key, but I can't generate a key (that will be the same on the server and on the client) as there is nothing I can use as a source data. file:line key is also not suitable here as useState() will be always called from the same file:line (because it is called inside of my composable). Maybe there is a helper/something to generate a key based on a stacktrace of the current call or an other way to solve this?
    Basically, I need a Ref, but SSR-friendly.

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      You might want to check out Nuxt's latest useId composable or Daniel's vue-bind-once directive! github.com/danielroe/vue-bind-once

  • @achillesle3995
    @achillesle3995 Місяць тому

    Can you point out when using refs in nuxt 3? pls

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  Місяць тому

      You can use refs as you’d do in Vue, EXCEPT “outside” of composables, so as “global state” 😊

  • @pepinogdev
    @pepinogdev 5 місяців тому +1

    greatt, good channel, good content, good good good

  • @chriscdn
    @chriscdn 5 місяців тому +1

    How do you deal with multiple instances of a component on the same page, each of which should have its own state? For example, consider the following:
    const count = useState("counter", () => Math.round(Math.random() * 100));
    Due to the "counter" key, each instance of the component will get the same value. However, I'd like each instance to have its own random value.
    Thanks for the videos!

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      Hey Chris! Then you could pass a key for the state as prop (and then prefix it in useState so you fully avoid collisions).

    • @chriscdn
      @chriscdn 5 місяців тому

      @@TheAlexLichter Thanks for your reply. The catch is that I use this component in many different places, and there's no consistent way to track which instance gets which key. I prefer to keep my components autonomous and not require management of an external key. The application for this might be obvious:
      ```
      ...
      ```
      The problem is keeping `uniqueId` unique for each instance and be SSR compatible.
      I see hints of a `useId` composable coming to Nuxt. Maybe this is the solution? Or can you think of another way in the meantime?

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      The useId composable will likely be implemented in Vue 3.5 (as mentioned in the video). Then that should be really easy! Until then, check out Daniel's vue-bind-once github.com/danielroe/vue-bind-once

    • @chriscdn
      @chriscdn 5 місяців тому

      @@TheAlexLichter Ah, I missed that. Many thanks! Subscribed!

  • @Thr0nSK
    @Thr0nSK 5 місяців тому +1

    Isn’t it actually better not to provide the key & let nuxt generate it automatically so that there is no way you could get a duplicate key in a large project?
    The key might make sense if you need to access the state from multiple places in code, however, even then you could just create a wrapper composable around useState without key and call it instead of useState(), couldn’t you?

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому +2

      I'd rather trust my own key (so I definitely won't duplicate it) then on auto-gen 😛
      + It is easier to debug in the devtools (which is the better reason here 🤣)

    • @Thr0nSK
      @Thr0nSK 5 місяців тому

      @@TheAlexLichterYeah, the debugging is a good point!

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      @@Thr0nSKOne more thing to consider is e.g. when the state depends on a page param, locale or similar!

    • @Thr0nSK
      @Thr0nSK 5 місяців тому

      @@TheAlexLichter True! Good point

  • @rifatno1
    @rifatno1 11 днів тому

    There is a problem. I'm using one component outside layout and one inside layout. Both depends on the same state. When I change the value from inside layout, the value of the component outside layout doesn't update in SSR.
    // this component doesn't update when the value is changed in layout
    // the vaule is changed here
    The problem solves when I use inside layout

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 днів тому

      That is correct as SSR is "top to bottom" and there is no "real" workaround there I'm afraid. You can't update what is already rendered during SSR. See github.com/nuxt/nuxt/issues/19258 for more details

    • @rifatno1
      @rifatno1 5 днів тому

      @@TheAlexLichter Thanks for the info

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 5 місяців тому

    Great info!! what about global state in vue without pinia?

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      Thank you 🙏
      If you need global state in plain Vue without Pinia, then you *can* go for the pattern from the video: a `ref` outside a composable to keep the global state inside. Can also be a `reactive` object holding global state in a different file that is manipulated!

  • @todpale
    @todpale 5 місяців тому

    As far as I understand, useState was created for a very small amount of data to provide an instant access through the project. Once I had an interview with a company which used useState as a main state system for depencies reducung. I failed it because of a different vision of the topic😅
    Seems like it’s really supposed to be the Pinia replacement inside Nuxt. But I still believe that useState is a completely different tool (even after your explanation).

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      What do you think useState should be / is used for? ☺️

    • @todpale
      @todpale 5 місяців тому

      @@TheAlexLichter I’ve never tested it properly. My argumentation might be pretty weak but I’ll still try to explain.
      From my perspective, useState is a global and enhanced version of React’s one. It helps to create small stores that can share needed values between components without extra complexity. I don’t feel that I have a control over data fully as well as I’d do it with Pinia. At the same time, I don’t need to implement useState because I’ve already got Pinia that does the same thing.

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому +1

      I'd argue that you have full control over the data (+ what is actually sent over to the client) 😊

    • @todpale
      @todpale 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TheAlexLichter I think I need to test it. Thank you for the video!

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      You are welcome! Let me know if you have any more questions 😊

  • @JulienReszka
    @JulienReszka Місяць тому

    I wish the doc was clearer

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  Місяць тому

      What is missing in the docs in your opinion?

    • @JulienReszka
      @JulienReszka Місяць тому

      @@TheAlexLichter I tried to use useState to store the idToken to make a request with useFetch with Authorization Bearer token but struggled with it for hours until I noticed I should use useCookie for this.
      It was not clear to me what SSR-friendly means in this case.

    • @JulienReszka
      @JulienReszka Місяць тому

      @@TheAlexLichter I'm talking about this doc
      m/docs/api/composables/use-state

  • @nangseakheng2976
    @nangseakheng2976 5 місяців тому +1

    Good content

  • @virtuoz-ru
    @virtuoz-ru 5 місяців тому

    Приветствую, Александр.
    Такой вопрос: в каких случаях следует использовать объявление useState вот так: const nameVar = () => useState('title', () => 'что-то');
    а в каких вот так: const nameVar = useState('title', () => 'что-то');
    И в чём разница?

    • @suheugene
      @suheugene 5 місяців тому

      Я не думаю, что первый вариант правильный.
      В видео, где он описывал неправильное использование useFetch эта тема как раз и затрагивается
      ua-cam.com/video/njsGVmcWviY/v-deo.html
      Она применима ко всем use+Что-либо приколам нукста (в моём понимании)
      Применения первого варианта, где
      const nameVar = () => useState('title', () => 'что-то');
      я даже не видел, на самом деле. Есть какой-нибудь пример?

    • @virtuoz-ru
      @virtuoz-ru 5 місяців тому

      @@suheugene Пример есть в документации в разделе composables

    • @TheAlexLichter
      @TheAlexLichter  5 місяців тому

      const nameVar = () => useState('title', () => 'что-то'); allows you to decide when you want to initialize the state and get a fresh "ref" (that is populated with the state) all the time. It avoids issues like we've seen in the plugin, where the values would be "shared".