Sikh Documentary - Diversity in Gurmat Sangeet

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2024

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  • @KirtanFi
    @KirtanFi 2 місяці тому +4

    Really nice documentary - taken away new learnings! Thank you for featuring Kirtan Fi content to showcase some of the genres 🙏🏽🌷💛

  • @sukhichana
    @sukhichana 26 днів тому

    This a great attempt to a create dialog o Gurmat Sanjeet.
    There are some key historical attempt for reviving Gurmat Sangeets. Patiala University did the research in the late 70s in an attempt to document Gurmat Sangeet. Singh Sahib Bhia Samund Singh Ji (one of the most spiritual and respected respected Kirtaniyae) directed the University to document Kirtan sung by Bhai Avtar Singh & Bhai Gurcharan Singh Ji Jatha. They had 12 Generations of Kirtan in their family from the time of our Guru Ji.
    Bhai Avtar Singh Ji writing Book were the key to our era for Gurmat Sangeet revival. Also Bhai Avtar Singh returning to play the Taus we in inspiration to our youth. It really sad and disappointing that this documentary fails to mention an Ustad Raagi like Bhai Avtar Singh Ji who sung the most Gurmat Sangeet Raag, Taals and Partaals during his life time (as acknowledged by a Great Raagi Bhai Samund Singh Ji ) in the start of Bhai Avtar Singh Ji Books published by Patiala University.
    The Shan originated from Guru Nanak Dev Ji during his travels. Bhai Mardhana played the Shan while the village Sangat gathered. The Shan was formalize by Guru Arjan Dev Ji when the Chaunki's were established. According to Sant Baba Sucha Singh Ji (Jawaddi wale), the Shan is the first of four parts of a Chaunki. Second being Mangla-Charan, third being the Shabad singing and the forth being the Pauri.
    There also many unique Sikh Raags sung by our Guru Jis that is also omitted. Even the common Classical Raags like Basant, Malhar, Sree had a different style form Indian Classical music. This is why Great Classical Singer, like Bade Gulam Ali Khan used to visit and listen to Kirtan at Sri Harimandar Sahib Ji.
    But we do appreciate that it a great attempt to make this documentary and omissions are not intentional but limited you ones life experience. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @raviharjotsingh
    @raviharjotsingh 2 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic documentary Ji, thank you

  • @sardarkang
    @sardarkang 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for putting this together! Waheguru

  • @tanveersingh9817
    @tanveersingh9817 2 місяці тому +1

    Amazing work! Love this!

  • @jashansandhu2966
    @jashansandhu2966 2 місяці тому

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ

  • @rpofficial2052
    @rpofficial2052 2 місяці тому +1

    It's a nice and informative documentary brother, I liked it ❤️

  • @tarsemubhi4556
    @tarsemubhi4556 2 місяці тому

    Very informative video. The photograph at 10.25 is from Nairobi, Kenya. My grandfather Ragi Santokh Singh Ubhi also known as Mzee Ji, an accomplished classical singer is seated with his harmonium, second from left. He used to perform Kirtan with the renowned Ragi Jatha of Tara Singh and Jaggjeet Singh Jabbal of Nairobi. He was part of the wave of Sikhs who left their native villages in Punjab (Pind Patara, Jalandhar) to settle in East Africa in the 1920s their Kirtan and music went with them.

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому

      Thank you. That's great to hear. Are there many recordings of him?

    • @tarsemubhi4556
      @tarsemubhi4556 2 місяці тому

      @@CheenMacheenKirtan Unfortunately, we do not have any recordings but his legacy continues through his family. Some of my siblings perform Kirtan. The more well-known Kirtanyas would be his grandson and great-grandsons from his youngest daughter. They are the Bebe Nanaki Jatha in Birmingham.

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому

      @@tarsemubhi4556 oh yes I have heard of them.

    • @gaganhayer6530
      @gaganhayer6530 2 місяці тому

      @@tarsemubhi4556 where can I find their work, I live 5 mins from bebe nanaki gurudwara in Birmingham if that is what you meant

  • @Inkulabi
    @Inkulabi 2 місяці тому

    Great presentation 🙏🏾

  • @SAHIBSINGH-mr9ji
    @SAHIBSINGH-mr9ji 2 місяці тому

    🙏🙏🧡

  • @tmadvillain4028
    @tmadvillain4028 2 місяці тому

    Great work. But isn't there any Kirtan Style like "Puratan Kirtan"? I was waiting till the end for Prof Surinder Singh to be scened 😭. Which of the mentioned styles will fall under Puraran Style?

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you ji. Namdhari kirtan would be the closest to puratan kirtan of the 19th c due to the absorbtion of rababi compositions and old taksali reetan. Puratan kirtan before that would probably have had sounded like some of the old namdhari recordings from the 1980s with Baba Bir Singh ji on the Pakhawaj. Hope that helps

  • @ਹਉਮੈਜੀਤਸਿੰਘ
    @ਹਉਮੈਜੀਤਸਿੰਘ 2 місяці тому +1

    While the effort is inspirational there are so many flaws, mistakes and false claims of others that are presented in the documentary. Probably not intentional but out of not knowing.

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому +3

      @@ਹਉਮੈਜੀਤਸਿੰਘ Thank you for your acknowledgement. Yes, there were a few mistakes such as the number of mishrat raags. Could you kindly point out the rest?

  • @endeavour1349
    @endeavour1349 2 місяці тому

    Caste? Why is it necessary when gurmatt is being addressed?

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому +4

      You are finding problems with etymology of a word mentioned once? While I agree with you caste has no place within Gurmat, and the better word in this case would be lineage. However, the mirasi predate Gurmat and within the stratisfied Indian social network it has very much evolved to become a caste. In fact, in old, precolonial and contemporary literatures they have been described as a caste. Mahan Kosh for example.

  • @kanwaljeetsingh5193
    @kanwaljeetsingh5193 2 місяці тому

    Namdhari are not Sikh . They are Snatni brothers who follow Guru Nanak same like Sindhi Snatni. Guru Nanak never started Namdhari religion. He started Sikhism. And Namdhari sant also says they are Snatni . You can listen to his speech in india.

    • @jassimarsingh6505
      @jassimarsingh6505 2 місяці тому +2

      They originally started of as a sant dera during Khalsa raaj

  • @rsseehra72
    @rsseehra72 2 місяці тому

    Mishrat raags are only twenty-one in number and not thirty-one.

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому

      @@rsseehra72 hanji. You are right.

    • @rsseehra72
      @rsseehra72 2 місяці тому

      @@CheenMacheenKirtan
      Sixty Raags:
      Raag Melodies
      There are a total of 60 raags or melodies under which whole Guru Granth sahib ji is written.
      Each melody sets a particular mood for the hymn, adding a deeper dimension to it.
      Out of the 60 raags or melodies, 39 are single raags, and 21 are mishrat raags which are mixed melodies created by blending together two raags or melodies to create an entirely new and independent raag or melody. The primary raag or melody contains the main foundation, identity, and characteristic, which is then influenced by the secondary raag or melody.
      Please find below the list of raags and their associated page, in order of appearance.
      Aasaa - 8
      Gujari - 10
      Gauri Deepaki - 12 (Mishrat Raag)
      Dhanasari - 13
      Gauri Purbi - 13 (Mishrat Raag)
      Siri Raag - 14
      Majh - 94
      Gauri Guarairi - 151 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri - 151
      Gauri Dakhani - 152
      Gauri Chayti - 154 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Bairagan - 156 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Purbi Deepaki - 157 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Majh - 172 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Malva - 214 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Mala - 214 (Mishrat Raag)
      Gauri Sorath - 330 (Mishrat Raag)
      Aasaa Kafi - 365 (Mishrat Raag)
      Asavari - 369
      Aasaa Asavari - 409 (Mishrat Raag)
      Devgandhari - 527
      Bihagara - 537
      Vadhans - 557
      Vadhans Dakhani - 580
      Sorath - 595
      Jaitsiri - 696
      Todi - 711
      Bairari - 719
      Tilang - 721
      Tilang Kafi - 726 (Mishrat Raag)
      Suhi - 728
      Suhi Kafi - 751 (Mishrat Raag)
      Suhi Lalit - 793 (Mishrat Raag)
      Bilaval - 795
      Bilaval Dakhani - 843
      Gond - 859
      Bilaval Gond - 874 (Mishrat Raag)
      Ramkali - 876
      Ramkali Dakhani - 907
      Nat Narayan - 975
      Nat - 975
      Mali Gaura - 984
      Maru - 989
      Maru Kafi - 1014 (Mishrat Raag)
      Maru Dakhani - 1033
      Tukhari - 1107
      Kedara - 1118
      Bhairao - 1125
      Basant - 1168
      Basant Hindol - 1170 (Mishrat Raag)
      Sarang - 1197
      Malaar - 1254
      Kaanara - 1294
      Kalian - 1319
      Kalian Bhopali - 1321 (Mishrat Raag)
      Parbhati Bibhas - 1327 (Mishrat Raag)
      Parbhati - 1327
      Parbhati Dakhani - 1344
      Bibhas Parbhati - 1347 (Mishrat Raag)
      Jaijavanti - 1352

  • @lakhmehrsingh7333
    @lakhmehrsingh7333 2 місяці тому

    For the fresco you’ve taken and used it without permission. If you want to use media like that please ask for permission from the person who owns it instead of taking it and implementing senselessly.

    • @CheenMacheenKirtan
      @CheenMacheenKirtan  2 місяці тому +3

      Forgive me. Please let me know which one and I will add your link in the description or comment.