OK, I’ve enjoyed all of your videos but this one was the best so far. Beautiful scenery, trivia and some humor thrown in for good measure. Very enjoyable! Thank you!!
interesting that you flew a straight in approach to Rupert. We dont normally do that here. I believe the CARs for landing at an uncontrolled airport call for a xing at 500 feet above pattern altitude. then joining the downwind.
You've done a great job with the production of this video- top notch! Ya the notams.....Foreflight keeps enhancing their product, think they now have targeted notams that are targeted at your particular flight.
Love the outdoor privy ! , ...my wife is a Canadian Citizen, I don't need no stinkin' papers ( lol )................... a big WOW to all trhe rest of the video..... Thanks for sharing.
Actually, Canadians use "Bathroom" too. Washroom is just the more 'polite' term, equivalent to "Restroom" in the US. At home, one would typically use bathroom when, for example, asking "Hey, you need the bathroom? I was going to take a shower." Whereas in a more professional environment, at work, or a restaurant or something, washroom would be more common.
'We don't need no stinkin maps!'..'So, where is Bella Bella?'...'Umm, somewhere south?'..LOL You guys crack me up so hard sometimes! Great adventure! Keep 'em coming! :) Your choice on who is saying what, right Jon and Steph? ;)
Excellent video as usual. I've experienced all the same things in Ketchikan except the weather! It looked nice. Check out Project Kitfox vids for backcountry strips in NE Oregon and central Idaho. Might be worth a visit during your travels.
Airspace question- its a special rule area. In this case it’s class E that requires two way contact with radio prior to entering 3000’ or below and prior to taxing on the ground. Basically a class E that has the same rules for contact as a class D, but no direct control of a tower. Salmon question... think it’s 3 to 7 years depending on sub-species (king, red, silver, chum, humpy).
Don't forget to plan on a stop at KMAI on your way down. We can jump in the 172 and fly down to Dog Island. The only way to get to this beautiful little island is by plane or boat.
Did you guys need to bring a passport like you do flying into Canada on a commercial airline? I know you don't need one to drive through Canada, I'm wondering if I will be able to fly my own plane back home to AK without a passport.
Sometimes its a quick call and other times, they will come out to your plane and ask you questions. It's a good idea to remain inside your plane though, (call with your cell); some will have an issue if you exit it and enter the FBO.....
FLY8MA.com Flight Training ok sweet thanks for this and all the countless hours you put into capturing aviation video of your stories. For all of us that share this passion it is much appreciated the the work required is recognized!
But that's not how you fly an uncontrolled airport in Canada. Never fly straight in, eesh. Especially in remote places where there's Nordo. I know pilots who fly northern Alberta and BC. I like the energy though. Just have a go at the rules of the road.
two small things: 1. At 8:00 it looks like your flaps and ailerons are not aligned. It looks like your flaps are down a few degrees lower than the ailerons. 2. How would you transport a firearm in a personal plane while traversing Canada?
ronburn the Firearms question it depends. Mainly depends on the type of firearm. Some are flat out not allowed. Typically bolt action riffles and shotguns are, you just have to declare them ahead of time, just like you do in advance if your driving. If it’s a firearm not allowed / they won’t issue a permit to bring it, then you have to send it another way from AK to lower 48 (or vice versa). Certain circumstances allow you to just mail it to yourself if your the one both shipping and picking it up. Otherwise you’ll need a FFL to take possession and ship it to an FFL for you or whoever you want to pick it up for you. The best way to stay out of trouble with US law is use an FFL. The best way to stay out of trouble with Canada, is go thru their permit process well in advance. My move here, by vehicle from the lower 48 to Alaska, I got the permit ahead of time and declared them at the border. The semi auto riffles and handguns all had to be shipped. The bolt action hunting riffles and shotguns were allowed. Actually found FFL’s that cut me a deal on the FFL fees to ship multiple firearms so really wasn’t to expensive to ship most of them and basically saved on shipping for the ones Canada allowed me to transit with. LoL coming back to the US it felt odd answering the question yes to “do you have any firearms, explosives or scheduled narcotics”, as they asked it in a one liner. All they wanted to see was that the firearm originated from the US, and the Canada paperwork worked for that. Mind you, this was over 20 years ago and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s gotten stricter on both bringing into Canada and the return to the US. I’d highly recommend contacting both Canadian Customs and US Customs well in advance to make sure your ducks are in a row. :-)
ronburn the aileron flap alignment, that looked normal to me, think there was a bit of an optical illusion. The flaps on a 170 are pretty squared up with the fuselage. The wing at where the flaps end and ailerons begin, gets skinny to the wing tip slightly. It’s not a whole lot but the outside of the aileron is slightly further forward at the wing tip. It causes a bit of optical illusion, especially noticed from behind the plane.
LoL try flying anywhere in Alaska off of the highway system and or marine hwy. several AK strips may not have fuel at all and or they have a very limited supply. Some of the strips at remote lodges will sell you fuel if they have it, but be prepared to pay 10+ $ a gallon or more. Hunting season, I’ll just fly out fuel ahead of time and have made deals with remote lodges to hold it for me. Usually I’ll just give them what’s left. I’ve also just stashed cans hidden at gravel bar strips. Fuel planning is on a whole different level up here. LoL hehe
Sending this because you guys have a different philosophy that Id like to hear about... ON THE ROAD AGAIN IFR --I FOLLOW ROADS by Cyrus Thomas Imagine being able to say that for the rest of your private flying career, "should my engine ever fail I have a road beneath me". No more wondering if you're poised for a ditching into a lake or the ocean, no more looking for clearings in forested areas, and no more hunting for flat spots in hilly and mountainous regions. Pilots assuage themselves that they are safe because they are always looking for possible landing sites, but they can't resist the temptation to fly in a straight line to their destination...after all that's what planes are for, crow-flying to save gas and time, getting every ounce of utility from the machine as you can. And ignoring safety a little bit? Some pilots follow roads some of the time. They might state that if their engine quits they have a 60% chance of being over a road. Watching aviation videos, I always know when the pilot is not over a road as their right hand nervously alternates touching the throttle and mixture knobs. I propose that with self-discipline the percentage of time we are over roads can be 100%. It's not that difficult. All farmland is interspersed with service roads...so you can relax over farmland...but you might prefer to land on a service road between the farmland itself instead of finding out at 1/8th of a mile before the fence that you've just set up to land in a wine vineyard! Ouch! All mountain passes have roads for cars, large lakes are mostly surrounded by roads, freeways connect all major cities and rural deserted areas are usually traversed by BLM service roads. But get-there-itis is a powerful force. Let me ask, why save time if you love flying? You will only get there sooner and terminate the flight early, robbing yourself of the joy of flight. Flight paths following roads are likely 15% longer than how the crow flies...so a 200$ flight now costs 230$...is it worth the peace of mind? I’ve been flying this way for years and for me it is worth it. I used to fly a Lake amphibian and I always followed rivers (IFR) affording me safe emergency water landing opportunities. Now I'm in an RV12. My wife gives me her full endorsement for the "I follow roads" type of flying. Is there any wonder? If you're receiving flight-following, your air traffic controller probably does not have highways on his radar screen, so unless he lives in the area, then when you tell him or her that you are following the 580 south, they may come back with simply, "stay clear of class Charley and Bravo airspaces" because they may have no idea where the 580 is! It would be better to say, "direct KDVO, direct KCCR, direct KLVK" or rather, "we're flying direct Gnoss Field, to Buccanan, then Livermore". Safe pilots carry Personal Locator Beacons should they crash land in the boonies, be they wooded or desert. They file flight plans so someone will find them. I've read that 40% of the time, for various reasons, ELTs do not go off when they should. Flight Following is a great idea, even when flying the I-land-on-roads method but communication will likely be lost while descending. However, ATC will have a general idea of your location should you be heading downward. I do not own a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon). In an emergency, even if only over a rural road, as I am descending and attempting a restart, I'll tell Flight Following where I am, squawk 7700, activate the ELT and land on a road. Filing a flight plan with Flight Service in order that ATC knows where you are becomes necessary if Flight Following is not available. On my tablet's Personal Flight Planning app, using sectionals, I plan flights from airports to lat/long waypoints, to airports, to lat/long waypoints again, etc... Every line of the flight plan is over a highway or road. Sometimes I have to refer to a road map app. I then can usually find the same roads on the sectional. I save the flight route on-line and then, in flight I use my cellphone mounted to the left window to follow my flight path on the same app, availing the other glass panels for portraying terrain, traffic, weather, direct navigation, closest airports etc. Having the cellphone close to me, portraying my route, is nice because I am often enlarging the map to see smaller roads. I remember the day when I first realized that, should I ever have an off-runway landing, I could be 100% sure there will be on a road beneath me...because I promised myself there would always be one within reach. It was so comforting...it changed my whole reaction to the dangers involved. I've experienced two complete engine failures and fortunately each time landed at an airport. Consequently, I have low faith in engines conceptualized in 1935 and hardly improved since. So, I will now only fly a modern liquid cooled, low CHT engine with a light weight propeller, but that's the subject of a different safety article. Some sight-seeing is compromised by this method of flying, but not all is lost. Flying around mountain tops in the Cascades, for example, is still possible. Even though you might not be directly over a road as you are sight-seeing the mountain tops, know that you just need to be able to glide to a road...but with the IFRoads method you always know where the roads are (due to pre-flight preparation) and your map confirms it. Face it, at least out west, much of our country is barren. Even an off-road landing you can walk away from can put you so far from civilization that you could parish attempting to find help. I almost did die once. After a successful off-road landing in the desert sand I walked for six hours to the remote airport I was flying to, with little water. I had to guess where the airport was. Wished I had followed a road. Show more
Nice video. I don’t know how you two have time to make a living keep your current flying students when you spend most of your time 1000’s of miles away from your home airport lol.
Tango T , nope. Special Rule area. In this case it’s a class E airspace that requires 2 way communication with the radio station prior to taxi or prior to entering airspace to 3000 or below. Basically class E with class D communication contact rule but without direct tower control. Ie you contact them, they respond, you do your own position / intention announcing with no atc instructions/clearances. The special rules for another area will be different, so don’t assume their the same. As apposed to a normal class E where you are not even required to talk / have a radio.
OK, I’ve enjoyed all of your videos but this one was the best so far. Beautiful scenery, trivia and some humor thrown in for good measure. Very enjoyable! Thank you!!
Amazingly entertaining video...
Haha, that to be continued was great... Oh Canada 🇨🇦
Nice patch of rubber layed in Prince Rupert...foot on right brake at 14:40, lol!
Good to see you two having fun with it. Cheers.
interesting that you flew a straight in approach to Rupert. We dont normally do that here. I believe the CARs for landing at an uncontrolled airport call for a xing at 500 feet above pattern altitude. then joining the downwind.
Your channel is developing a great personality! Keep it up!
Thank you Jonathan! So glad you're enjoying our adventures!
In Minnesota I see “washroom” “restroom” and “bathroom” all used equally to signify the same thing
Loving it!!! I feel like I'm there with you guys. Great views as always 👌
I want that T-shirt!!! And agreed, never met a Canadian who was not nice. Super scenery.
They're on our website... Shop.fly8ma.com !!!
Depending on the species and location, salmon live 3-7 years before spawning and dying.
the I-am-sick NOTAM... LOL !!!
You've done a great job with the production of this video- top notch! Ya the notams.....Foreflight keeps enhancing their product, think they now have targeted notams that are targeted at your particular flight.
Love the outdoor privy ! , ...my wife is a Canadian Citizen, I don't need no stinkin' papers ( lol )................... a big WOW to all trhe rest of the video..... Thanks for sharing.
Actually, Canadians use "Bathroom" too. Washroom is just the more 'polite' term, equivalent to "Restroom" in the US. At home, one would typically use bathroom when, for example, asking "Hey, you need the bathroom? I was going to take a shower." Whereas in a more professional environment, at work, or a restaurant or something, washroom would be more common.
Good videos, going for discovery Friday if weather plays nice.
'We don't need no stinkin maps!'..'So, where is Bella Bella?'...'Umm, somewhere south?'..LOL You guys crack me up so hard sometimes! Great adventure! Keep 'em coming! :) Your choice on who is saying what, right Jon and Steph? ;)
Great video, Great way to distract me from work.
Hahha So glad we could make you a more productive person!!
Excellent video as usual. I've experienced all the same things in Ketchikan except the weather! It looked nice. Check out Project Kitfox vids for backcountry strips in NE Oregon and central Idaho. Might be worth a visit during your travels.
... and the adventure continues. Well done you two. Great stuff, wonderful views, good banter and interesting viewing!
Thank you Jodel!! Happy you are joining us!
I enjoyed video
Hey great meeting ya in 74P fly safe out there !
Thanks!!! Same to you!
Nice meeting you too! Looking forward to checking out your channel
Wow. All that fear about crossing the border. You made it look easy.
Pretty simple process going into Canada! Little more complex coming back to the states...we'll put it all up on the course on the site here soon!
James Dean just the southern border not the eastern border. LoL
Airspace question- its a special rule area. In this case it’s class E that requires two way contact with radio prior to entering 3000’ or below and prior to taxing on the ground. Basically a class E that has the same rules for contact as a class D, but no direct control of a tower.
Salmon question... think it’s 3 to 7 years depending on sub-species (king, red, silver, chum, humpy).
Nice one Andy!
FLY8MA I knew it was a special rules area, but I had to look up what the specific rule was for Ketchikan.
Great music!
Thanks!!
Great video. Love the channel. Keep them coming. Would love to have you visit KYIP on your tour.
We'll be around karb this summer!
why no customs on arrival? no xrays? or dog sniffing?
Thoroughly enjoying your epic adventure! Could I ask what AHRS unit you use to supply the iPad with attitude info?
Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks!!! We're using a gdl52 with Garmin pilot
Don't forget to plan on a stop at KMAI on your way down. We can jump in the 172 and fly down to Dog Island. The only way to get to this beautiful little island is by plane or boat.
Sounds good! We'll be in FL in April!
@@FLY8MA look forward to meeting you guys.
Great VID...I can say you guys sure keep it interesting! Don. :-)
Haha most of the time it's without trying!
This is my dream. Gotta get my license.
Did you add the bars on the windshield?
Did you guys need to bring a passport like you do flying into Canada on a commercial airline?
I know you don't need one to drive through Canada, I'm wondering if I will be able to fly my own plane back home to AK without a passport.
If you have a US drive license, you just need a enhanced license
Is the Prince Rupert still an airport of entry?
Thats all it takes , just a phone call customs,no TSA or anything
Sometimes its a quick call and other times, they will come out to your plane and ask you questions. It's a good idea to remain inside your plane though, (call with your cell); some will have an issue if you exit it and enter the FBO.....
Did you have any trouble taking the dog into Canada? I ask because sometimes a pet is required to be put into a kennel for a period of time
We didn't see a single person at the airport when we "cleared" into Canada
Haven't had any problems in the past not even coming back into the US. Haven't even needed papers or anything
Hi all, I don’t fly but would love to learn, on average how high and how fast would you be flying, I know it depends upon weather and terrain
Typically 500-9,500' and 120mph
Great video as always, what mount and model Go Pro do you mount to the plane?
Check out two episodes ago....we go over all our mounts!
FLY8MA.com Flight Training ok sweet thanks for this and all the countless hours you put into capturing aviation video of your stories. For all of us that share this passion it is much appreciated the the work required is recognized!
LOL! loved it :) Bathrooms, Washrooms, Toilets, Public Conveniences, do people do things differently around the world? ;)
Probably right!? Australia is all different too
If your plane had the range could you overfly Canada directly to the US without going through Customs? US to US.
Yup! Just need an extra 20gal of gas!
FLY8MA.com Flight Training, time to get the Flint 24 gallon Cessna 170 aux tank STC... hehe
But that's not how you fly an uncontrolled airport in Canada. Never fly straight in, eesh. Especially in remote places where there's Nordo. I know pilots who fly northern Alberta and BC. I like the energy though. Just have a go at the rules of the road.
cessa and mountains are scary for me any help?
Jon, are you using Epidemic sound for the background music?
We use es and artlist
@@FLY8MA good selections .... they do go very well !!! nice job editing !!
Thanks!
two small things:
1. At 8:00 it looks like your flaps and ailerons are not aligned. It looks like your flaps are down a few degrees lower than the ailerons.
2. How would you transport a firearm in a personal plane while traversing Canada?
ronburn the Firearms question it depends. Mainly depends on the type of firearm. Some are flat out not allowed. Typically bolt action riffles and shotguns are, you just have to declare them ahead of time, just like you do in advance if your driving. If it’s a firearm not allowed / they won’t issue a permit to bring it, then you have to send it another way from AK to lower 48 (or vice versa). Certain circumstances allow you to just mail it to yourself if your the one both shipping and picking it up. Otherwise you’ll need a FFL to take possession and ship it to an FFL for you or whoever you want to pick it up for you.
The best way to stay out of trouble with US law is use an FFL. The best way to stay out of trouble with Canada, is go thru their permit process well in advance.
My move here, by vehicle from the lower 48 to Alaska, I got the permit ahead of time and declared them at the border. The semi auto riffles and handguns all had to be shipped. The bolt action hunting riffles and shotguns were allowed. Actually found FFL’s that cut me a deal on the FFL fees to ship multiple firearms so really wasn’t to expensive to ship most of them and basically saved on shipping for the ones Canada allowed me to transit with. LoL coming back to the US it felt odd answering the question yes to “do you have any firearms, explosives or scheduled narcotics”, as they asked it in a one liner. All they wanted to see was that the firearm originated from the US, and the Canada paperwork worked for that. Mind you, this was over 20 years ago and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s gotten stricter on both bringing into Canada and the return to the US. I’d highly recommend contacting both Canadian Customs and US Customs well in advance to make sure your ducks are in a row. :-)
ronburn the aileron flap alignment, that looked normal to me, think there was a bit of an optical illusion. The flaps on a 170 are pretty squared up with the fuselage. The wing at where the flaps end and ailerons begin, gets skinny to the wing tip slightly. It’s not a whole lot but the outside of the aileron is slightly further forward at the wing tip. It causes a bit of optical illusion, especially noticed from behind the plane.
You downloaded the maps...right???
Hahaha....small preflight mixup
"How are we going to get there?"
Great videos keep up the good work.
Thanks so much for watching Vinson!
@@FLY8MA Your welcome.
Jeez! You guys fly close to those mountain tops! Next one will be interesting....🇨🇦
It certainly was! Coming on Wednesday!
Wait, getting fuel isn't an issue in USA??
Hahaha, sometimes in Alaska we run into that problem
LoL try flying anywhere in Alaska off of the highway system and or marine hwy. several AK strips may not have fuel at all and or they have a very limited supply. Some of the strips at remote lodges will sell you fuel if they have it, but be prepared to pay 10+ $ a gallon or more. Hunting season, I’ll just fly out fuel ahead of time and have made deals with remote lodges to hold it for me. Usually I’ll just give them what’s left. I’ve also just stashed cans hidden at gravel bar strips. Fuel planning is on a whole different level up here. LoL hehe
To be honest, there is no bath... so why is it a bathroom???
Lol
Sending this because you guys have a different philosophy that Id like to hear about...
ON THE ROAD AGAIN
IFR --I FOLLOW ROADS by Cyrus Thomas
Imagine being able to say that for the rest of your private flying career, "should my engine ever fail I have a road beneath me". No more wondering if you're poised for a ditching into a lake or the ocean, no more looking for clearings in forested areas, and no more hunting for flat spots in hilly and mountainous regions.
Pilots assuage themselves that they are safe because they are always looking for possible landing sites, but they can't resist the temptation to fly in a straight line to their destination...after all that's what planes are for, crow-flying to save gas and time, getting every ounce of utility from the machine as you can. And ignoring safety a little bit?
Some pilots follow roads some of the time. They might state that if their engine quits they have a 60% chance of being over a road. Watching aviation videos, I always know when the pilot is not over a road as their right hand nervously alternates touching the throttle and mixture knobs. I propose that with self-discipline the percentage of time we are over roads can be 100%.
It's not that difficult. All farmland is interspersed with service roads...so you can relax over farmland...but you might prefer to land on a service road between the farmland itself instead of finding out at 1/8th of a mile before the fence that you've just set up to land in a wine vineyard! Ouch! All mountain passes have roads for cars, large lakes are mostly surrounded by roads, freeways connect all major cities and rural deserted areas are usually traversed by BLM service roads.
But get-there-itis is a powerful force. Let me ask, why save time if you love flying? You will only get there sooner and terminate the flight early, robbing yourself of the joy of flight. Flight paths following roads are likely 15% longer than how the crow flies...so a 200$ flight now costs 230$...is it worth the peace of mind? I’ve been flying this way for years and for me it is worth it. I used to fly a Lake amphibian and I always followed rivers (IFR) affording me safe emergency water landing opportunities. Now I'm in an RV12. My wife gives me her full endorsement for the "I follow roads" type of flying. Is there any wonder?
If you're receiving flight-following, your air traffic controller probably does not have highways on his radar screen, so unless he lives in the area, then when you tell him or her that you are following the 580 south, they may come back with simply, "stay clear of class Charley and Bravo airspaces" because they may have no idea where the 580 is! It would be better to say, "direct KDVO, direct KCCR, direct KLVK" or rather, "we're flying direct Gnoss Field, to Buccanan, then Livermore".
Safe pilots carry Personal Locator Beacons should they crash land in the boonies, be they wooded or desert. They file flight plans so someone will find them. I've read that 40% of the time, for various reasons, ELTs do not go off when they should. Flight Following is a great idea, even when flying the I-land-on-roads method but communication will likely be lost while descending. However, ATC will have a general idea of your location should you be heading downward. I do not own a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon). In an emergency, even if only over a rural road, as I am descending and attempting a restart, I'll tell Flight Following where I am, squawk 7700, activate the ELT and land on a road. Filing a flight plan with Flight Service in order that ATC knows where you are becomes necessary if Flight Following is not available.
On my tablet's Personal Flight Planning app, using sectionals, I plan flights from airports to lat/long waypoints, to airports, to lat/long waypoints again, etc... Every line of the flight plan is over a highway or road. Sometimes I have to refer to a road map app. I then can usually find the same roads on the sectional. I save the flight route on-line and then, in flight I use my cellphone mounted to the left window to follow my flight path on the same app, availing the other glass panels for portraying terrain, traffic, weather, direct navigation, closest airports etc. Having the cellphone close to me, portraying my route, is nice because I am often enlarging the map to see smaller roads.
I remember the day when I first realized that, should I ever have an off-runway landing, I could be 100% sure there will be on a road beneath me...because I promised myself there would always be one within reach. It was so comforting...it changed my whole reaction to the dangers involved. I've experienced two complete engine failures and fortunately each time landed at an airport. Consequently, I have low faith in engines conceptualized in 1935 and hardly improved since. So, I will now only fly a modern liquid cooled, low CHT engine with a light weight propeller, but that's the subject of a different safety article.
Some sight-seeing is compromised by this method of flying, but not all is lost. Flying around mountain tops in the Cascades, for example, is still possible. Even though you might not be directly over a road as you are sight-seeing the mountain tops, know that you just need to be able to glide to a road...but with the IFRoads method you always know where the roads are (due to pre-flight preparation) and your map confirms it.
Face it, at least out west, much of our country is barren. Even an off-road landing you can walk away from can put you so far from civilization that you could parish attempting to find help. I almost did die once. After a successful off-road landing in the desert sand I walked for six hours to the remote airport I was flying to, with little water. I had to guess where the airport was. Wished I had followed a road.
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Is there an autopilot in this plane?
Nope! Gotta stay awake!
If you haven't already discovered Jon and Steph's first flights in FL, check out the older vids: ua-cam.com/video/zWE8Mn74Jak/v-deo.html
Nice video. I don’t know how you two have time to make a living keep your current flying students when you spend most of your time 1000’s of miles away from your home airport lol.
What’s cruise speed on that?
About 120mph @ 10.5-11gph
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 I guess all this gas goes to the useful load, good work, stay safe..
It's not a bathroom, you don't go for a bath in it! It's not really a washroom either. It's a toilet!!
They say toilet in England yes?
FLY8MA yes we do
"Make Aviation Great Again!" Ha, ha!
No firearms? WTF?!?!?
Did you download the map? What map? maps are over rated!! LOL
Just makes us think about all the people doing this flight with paper charts... really amazing pilots!
Class E ground to 17,999 :)
Tango T , nope. Special Rule area. In this case it’s a class E airspace that requires 2 way communication with the radio station prior to taxi or prior to entering airspace to 3000 or below. Basically class E with class D communication contact rule but without direct tower control. Ie you contact them, they respond, you do your own position / intention announcing with no atc instructions/clearances. The special rules for another area will be different, so don’t assume their the same. As apposed to a normal class E where you are not even required to talk / have a radio.
No map and no gas.....what could go wrong? lol
Lmao! Right!!? At least we did have a full tank
Rock paper scissors lizard spock. Less chance of duplication.
What beats Spock?
@@imontime77 ua-cam.com/video/x5Q6-wMx-K8/v-deo.html
We're just freaky alike lol
oops! Anybody have the roadmaps!
Lmao... lessons to learn from us.. don't be in a hurry! Things tend to go worse when we're rushing around. We're just professional procrastinators!
Sorry.
Great video, very informative ......HORRIBLE music.
Cessna eh? Hahaha
LOL
Stop the music please