Oliver Stone is a creative genius. A insurance salesman or a business man can’t understand this. You are driven by the creative process not the money at the end of the road.
That’s why we’ve had an onslaught of garbage remakes for the past 15 years. Every original story is a risk but movies that are remade have the rights bought & paid for…
The rights are probably the cheapest aspect of making a movie. That's not why they are remaking stuff. It's because it's a proven successful property and is more likely to be successful with a new audience.
Can't agree with that. It's true only when you have movies with absurd big budgets - they need at least a billion to make some profit or sometimes break even. The rest and most of them don't have this budgets and don't have this problems.
Studios need to take chances by supporting original middle budget movies again and cut the budget for these big blockbusters. No movie including comic book movies should cost $200 or $300 million to get made.
@@EddieHenderson92 Well, I can agree with that but on the other hand 20 years ago big films cost 120-150, adjust it for inflation and you have aprox. 200 mil. That not "that much" when you talk about these big blockbusters. 300 mil and more is absurd, I can agree with that fully. How can studios get back to support small and middle budget movies when there is no audience for them? I mean movie going audience, because people watch these movies on Netflix. Streaming and quick release of a movie after theaters (sometimes 3 weeks) killed the small and mid budget films in theaters basically. I see no reason for regular folks (don't talk about movie buffs) to go to the movies to watch something different than blockbusters nowadays, unfortunately. Studios can't fight with this.
@@przemysawdobrzynski2590 Nosferatu is doing well. I know that is clearly a remake, but Robert Eggers brings his own style to it and Oppenheimer almost made a billion dollars. I think people want more movies geared towards adults again.
@@EddieHenderson92 There are some examples of good mid budget movies doing good business and exceptions to what I wrote but overall it doesn't look that good for the studios. Nosferatu is doing well but previous Eggers movies were a finacial flops. Oppenheimer was a total aberration. Some people went because Nolan is a powerhouse and his every movie is an event, just like with Spielberg movies years ago. Some people went because of the story. But a lot of them went because of this weird but cool Barbienheimer thing. I personally saw lots of people who were buying tickets for Barbie and Oppie so those two films helped each other make more money. I'd say Oppie was a winner of this because this film benefited the most out of this situation. Normally it would make probably around 400 mil, and only because it's a Nolan flick. So it's a pretty bad example because it was an aberration, a gimmick of sorts, not something that you could rely on when talking about studios situation. And 95% of other movies, even these blockbusters, are not making any money right now. All these big franchises are burned out, people want something different but nobody knows what exactly so there are 2 hits and 8 misses in todays box office reality. And that's not a good deal for anyone.
Stone is being gracious, but he is not engaged - Patrick is a guy who doesn't get art or the artistic process and should probably not interview creative types.
Patrick Bet-David comes off as an extremely uncreative person who can’t wrap his head around doing something because you love it and are good at it and have a vision for it. He’s always managed people who have creative talent - but never experienced the joy of having and cultivating that talent himself through decades of work.
Patrick is the sort of guy you DON'T want to deal with when you are in a creative post. I have developed a different way of communicating with these shark types. I justify every decision through a ''do this or you will lose money, or lose time, thus you will lose money''. That shuts them up 7 out of 10.
What I have learned from failures is it hurts a whole lot less, when you fail at your passion because it was something that needed to be done to confirm it to be a loser
From the early eighties to the mid-90s Oliver Stone was Hollywood's Golden Goose. As a result absolutely everything he does makes money and everybody wants to be in business with him. Putin was willing to stake his 200 billion personal fortune in a slate of Stone films.
Our entire society has exchanged art, purpose, and meaning for mass appeal and profit margins. International Bankers and Multinational Corporations are to blame.
No, no, no. The business / financial needs of a film or series are not inherently, inexplicably at odds with the artistic intentions. Yes, they often end up antithetical, but they do not have to be. In a long career in the business, I have witnessed numerous examples where films and series can be a very good business while still being a high art form.
Stone the expert on Weed, worldwide. Still maintains California bud are the best in the World. His movies ? His art direction is flawless, his politics in his movies? Not so much.❤
I thought that it's something wrong with this quote. It didn't fit Scorsese because he is not doing movies for "them". I don't think he ever did typical studio picture in which he was a hired director to do what studio wanted to make. With Spielberg it makes sense.
@@przemysawdobrzynski2590 The only film I can think of where Scorsese made a film from a purely commercial perspective was Cape Fear and interestingly enough, that was an Amblin production.
@@FranzSanchez-ky9up I could add to that Departed and maybe Hugo, but still I think he made them because he wanted to and studios also saw potential for business with these two. So you can see them as commercial ones but not full on commercial.
Oliver Stone is a creative genius. A insurance salesman or a business man can’t understand this. You are driven by the creative process not the money at the end of the road.
I admire his films very much
That’s why we’ve had an onslaught of garbage remakes for the past 15 years. Every original story is a risk but movies that are remade have the rights bought & paid for…
The rights are probably the cheapest aspect of making a movie. That's not why they are remaking stuff. It's because it's a proven successful property and is more likely to be successful with a new audience.
That's true. If a movie doesn't make a billion dollars, it's considered a fail now a days
Can't agree with that. It's true only when you have movies with absurd big budgets - they need at least a billion to make some profit or sometimes break even. The rest and most of them don't have this budgets and don't have this problems.
Studios need to take chances by supporting original middle budget movies again and cut the budget for these big blockbusters. No movie including comic book movies should cost $200 or $300 million to get made.
@@EddieHenderson92 Well, I can agree with that but on the other hand 20 years ago big films cost 120-150, adjust it for inflation and you have aprox. 200 mil. That not "that much" when you talk about these big blockbusters. 300 mil and more is absurd, I can agree with that fully. How can studios get back to support small and middle budget movies when there is no audience for them? I mean movie going audience, because people watch these movies on Netflix. Streaming and quick release of a movie after theaters (sometimes 3 weeks) killed the small and mid budget films in theaters basically. I see no reason for regular folks (don't talk about movie buffs) to go to the movies to watch something different than blockbusters nowadays, unfortunately. Studios can't fight with this.
@@przemysawdobrzynski2590 Nosferatu is doing well. I know that is clearly a remake, but Robert Eggers brings his own style to it and Oppenheimer almost made a billion dollars. I think people want more movies geared towards adults again.
@@EddieHenderson92 There are some examples of good mid budget movies doing good business and exceptions to what I wrote but overall it doesn't look that good for the studios. Nosferatu is doing well but previous Eggers movies were a finacial flops. Oppenheimer was a total aberration. Some people went because Nolan is a powerhouse and his every movie is an event, just like with Spielberg movies years ago. Some people went because of the story. But a lot of them went because of this weird but cool Barbienheimer thing. I personally saw lots of people who were buying tickets for Barbie and Oppie so those two films helped each other make more money. I'd say Oppie was a winner of this because this film benefited the most out of this situation. Normally it would make probably around 400 mil, and only because it's a Nolan flick. So it's a pretty bad example because it was an aberration, a gimmick of sorts, not something that you could rely on when talking about studios situation. And 95% of other movies, even these blockbusters, are not making any money right now. All these big franchises are burned out, people want something different but nobody knows what exactly so there are 2 hits and 8 misses in todays box office reality. And that's not a good deal for anyone.
Stone is being gracious, but he is not engaged - Patrick is a guy who doesn't get art or the artistic process and should probably not interview creative types.
Exactly!
Hes an insurance pyramid schemer who got rich defrauding elderly folks.
Perfectly said. I normally like him a lot but this is a cringe interview for that exact reason 👏
@@sykadelik459true story and so many lemmings still follow him.
Patrick wanted to be an artist but not never made it or didn’t try. I agree with you.
Patrick always exhudes a slimey salesman vibe.
Patrick Bet-David comes off as an extremely uncreative person who can’t wrap his head around doing something because you love it and are good at it and have a vision for it. He’s always managed people who have creative talent - but never experienced the joy of having and cultivating that talent himself through decades of work.
💯
Patrick is the sort of guy you DON'T want to deal with when you are in a creative post. I have developed a different way of communicating with these shark types. I justify every decision through a ''do this or you will lose money, or lose time, thus you will lose money''. That shuts them up 7 out of 10.
What I have learned from failures is it hurts a whole lot less, when you fail at your passion because it was something that needed to be done to confirm it to be a loser
Good take. Sometimes you believe something deserves to exist, and that's enough
From the early eighties to the mid-90s Oliver Stone was Hollywood's Golden Goose. As a result absolutely everything he does makes money and everybody wants to be in business with him. Putin was willing to stake his 200 billion personal fortune in a slate of Stone films.
He was untouchable.
Entertainment is a numbers game just like every business except the outcome is never known in entertainment.
It goes to show you that it doesn’t matter if you’re an A list Director that has won 3 Oscar’s, it’s a business.
I follow my heart. Wow. There’s a filmmaker
Platoon is my favourite movie and love Oliver stone. I’ve seen platoon over 30xs
You wasted ur life
Ur wasting your life on UA-cam
@@94462 not x 30
@@94462you have 10 years on UA-cam lol
I don't mind PBD, but Oliver Stone had a hard time talking about his craft with guy.
Happy Safe New Year to you & family
Our entire society has exchanged art, purpose, and meaning for mass appeal and profit margins.
International Bankers and Multinational Corporations are to blame.
Patrick, you interrupt your guests and then you answer for them. You have to learn how to conduct an interview, pal. Let people speak!
No, no, no. The business / financial needs of a film or series are not inherently, inexplicably at odds with the artistic intentions. Yes, they often end up antithetical, but they do not have to be. In a long career in the business, I have witnessed numerous examples where films and series can be a very good business while still being a high art form.
Stone see right through PBDs 💩 questions 🙄
The Cold War wasn’t “fear”. It was a huge money maker for the military industrial complex.
It was Communism. They wanted the world.
Stone the expert on Weed, worldwide.
Still maintains California bud are the best in the World. His movies ? His art direction is flawless, his politics in his movies?
Not so much.❤
That quote about "one for myself, one for Hollywood" is from Spielberg, not from Scorsese.
I thought that it's something wrong with this quote. It didn't fit Scorsese because he is not doing movies for "them". I don't think he ever did typical studio picture in which he was a hired director to do what studio wanted to make. With Spielberg it makes sense.
@@przemysawdobrzynski2590 The only film I can think of where Scorsese made a film from a purely commercial perspective was Cape Fear and interestingly enough, that was an Amblin production.
@@FranzSanchez-ky9up I could add to that Departed and maybe Hugo, but still I think he made them because he wanted to and studios also saw potential for business with these two. So you can see them as commercial ones but not full on commercial.
Wrong. “Do one for them; do one for you. If you can still do projects for yourself, you can keep your soul.” - from Martin Scorsese: A Journey
@@TTillman3 Probably then it was his basic rule for every director, not his way of making movies. He's basically never done a movie just for "them".
REAL DEAL
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Gosh!....no profit incentive? Ollie!...you are on the wrong podcast. 😅
Patrick seems kind of slow 😂😂😂😂
Seeing Oliver Stone, having to put up with such a bad interview, is hard to watch.
This interviewer is such a no-nothing, philistine.
The only movie Oliver Stone made was Any Given Sunday football won everyone else I wouldn't even give me the one on a scale of 10 being the best
I wouldn't give your grammar 1/10 either.
@@OsirisCreatives😂
Huh?
MLM
Stone did a doco on a Venezuelan dictator.
I say he's Caracas!
Pat runs a ponzi scheme lol
Terrible investment
and who says it? the author of the most toxic films in history
pbd: uhhh have you seen wolf of wall street
March 16th 2020 COVID
did stone call george schulz “secretary of state” or “secretary of satan”? little sniff after…
Lol shit I can't even make this up