Love it, Awesome review. Replaced an Ortofon Silver with a Nagaoka MP110 on a Pro-Ject Classic through a tube integrated amp. Absolutely night and day difference. Art Pepper and the Rhythm Section (1959) sounds like the guys are right there live in my listening room.
you have to lower the needle on to the protractor null points, and use the counter lever not the body of the cartridge, you have to make sure the face of the cartridge is in line with the straight line on the protractor. a better method is a curved line with overhang you can't just judge it like that I noticed you didn't tighten the headshell very tight make sure it's really tight and make sure the cartridge is really tight
All correct, (and this part is not for you but everyone else reading this) while making sure the stylus, which is the needle itself, falls within the tiny sphere at the null points. This piece of paper is a very rough tool and anyone can do much better by spending a small amount for a cartridge alignment tool. I also failed to see where he set the down force (tracking force) at all, nonetheless within the manufacturers parameters. For those without headshells you will of course need to set the azimuth, zenith and VTA yourself. However be sure however not to over tighten screws since these cheaper cartridges with their plastic bodies may crack. Even with more expensive metal, wood, or exotic material bodied cartridges there is the chance of stripping the screw or the housing with over tightening.
A better comparison would be the 110 with the Ortofon 2m Red. The 2m series is higher up on Ortofon’s food chain than the OM series, and both the 110 and the Red have a bonded stylus. You would get a better idea of the differing sounds of the Nagaoka and Ortofon cartridges/styli with this comparison. Keep on spinning!!!
I didn't hear a huge difference, but didn't see that as a negative...it just tells me that the Ortofon OM10 is a very respectable cartridge. I did a smaller upgrade on my Ortofon OM10 and replaced it with a Jico Ortofon stylus 20. While it wasn't an amazing difference, it was a noticeable improvement at an easy-to-justify cost.
This comparison is dogshit. Not holding it against the OP, though. It coming through speakers and then being captured by a microphone. The MP110's tracking is excellent compared to similarly priced Ortofon carts. I currently have a 2M Red. It is an excellent cartridge, but the inner grove distortion is fairly bad. After watching this video: ua-cam.com/video/WkJADkDGnH8/v-deo.html I have gone ahead and purchased an MP-110. The difference is clear.
Did the Ortofon cartridge have that surface noise when it was new? Or do you think the stylus was worn and ready to be replaced at this point? I've heard that surface noise can definitely increase as the stylus becomes worn.
It is an upgrade for sure! Especially depending on which LP you're spinning at the time. Also, props for skipping the RT-81 and taking more control with the RT-82! A nice setup for sure! 👍
Thanks! Yeah, I knew that if I went with the RT82 that I cuold start slowly inch may way up to something like the 83,84 and 85. All thoer are is better platters then carts, so it's just components.
@@theoutgroove3051 I appreciate the reply. Would be very interested to hear the comparison with line level recording instead of mic'd. Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm tho! How have you found the cartridge now that it's been a while?
@@cx2988 I love it! Sounds so much better. Remember, this video was when I just installed it so I didn't burn it in yet. Now it's even better. I would love to see how far this upgrading carts go, but the next level I think is around $400, so I'm not ready to roll the dice on that. Honestly, I'm good right now!
Well,i always get a wtf? feeling when i see that ppl adjusting their cartridges with this paper adjustment templates. Its more of an estimate really. Its okish with conical and rougher ellipitical needles,but finer cuts need definitly a more precise adjustment than this.
Even the most precise alignment only makes the cantilever parallel to the groove contact at 2 points on the record surface. As long as you're within 1 degree of arc you're close enough.
late here - boggles the mind : 1. companies require use of the little nuts when they could easily have a simple screw in system ( notably like Audio Tech switched from the basic atm95 to the at vm95 ). 2. also -at least Ya have the head shell that uses easily replaceable connect wires... my fairly expensive Thorens uses the wires direct from inside tonearm to back of cartridge - without even providing extra durability / strength with insulating tube coverings..... know what happens when one of these cheesy cheap plugs breaks - or the tiny wire itself where it connects ? T'table value drops to about 2 cents. simple engineering fools. beancounters ignoring customer use. seems MANY fairly expensive companies ( over $ 500. ). use the pathetic sire direct from inside tonearm to back of cartridge. granted it's one or 2 less connections and thus 'better'. the lack of durability is absurd.
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Love it, Awesome review. Replaced an Ortofon Silver with a Nagaoka MP110 on a Pro-Ject Classic through a tube integrated amp. Absolutely night and day difference. Art Pepper and the Rhythm Section (1959) sounds like the guys are right there live in my listening room.
you have to lower the needle on to the protractor null points, and use the counter lever not the body of the cartridge, you have to make sure the face of the cartridge is in line with the straight line on the protractor.
a better method is a curved line with overhang
you can't just judge it like that
I noticed you didn't tighten the headshell very tight make sure it's really tight and make sure the cartridge is really tight
All correct, (and this part is not for you but everyone else reading this) while making sure the stylus, which is the needle itself, falls within the tiny sphere at the null points. This piece of paper is a very rough tool and anyone can do much better by spending a small amount for a cartridge alignment tool. I also failed to see where he set the down force (tracking force) at all, nonetheless within the manufacturers parameters. For those without headshells you will of course need to set the azimuth, zenith and VTA yourself. However be sure however not to over tighten screws since these cheaper cartridges with their plastic bodies may crack. Even with more expensive metal, wood, or exotic material bodied cartridges there is the chance of stripping the screw or the housing with over tightening.
I will try this Nagaoka stylus for sure, as you have said, it has a warmer definition of sound.
It actually sounded fuller to me . A little warmer
Maybe a slight boost in output .
A better comparison would be the 110 with the Ortofon 2m Red. The 2m series is higher up on Ortofon’s food chain than the OM series, and both the 110 and the Red have a bonded stylus. You would get a better idea of the differing sounds of the Nagaoka and Ortofon cartridges/styli with this comparison.
Keep on spinning!!!
The mp110 is one of the best mm cartridges for the money
I really like it, but I also want to see if a 200 would make a big difference.
Me too I’d like to try a mp 150 or 200
Why didn't you just mount the?mp110 onto another headshell and leave the OM10 alone
I didn't hear a huge difference, but didn't see that as a negative...it just tells me that the Ortofon OM10 is a very respectable cartridge. I did a smaller upgrade on my Ortofon OM10 and replaced it with a Jico Ortofon stylus 20. While it wasn't an amazing difference, it was a noticeable improvement at an easy-to-justify cost.
This comparison is dogshit. Not holding it against the OP, though. It coming through speakers and then being captured by a microphone. The MP110's tracking is excellent compared to similarly priced Ortofon carts. I currently have a 2M Red. It is an excellent cartridge, but the inner grove distortion is fairly bad. After watching this video: ua-cam.com/video/WkJADkDGnH8/v-deo.html I have gone ahead and purchased an MP-110. The difference is clear.
@@bigblueassbaby9074 the mp110 definitely beat the 2m red to my ears too! Put a MP200 stylus on there and it will beat a blue! Even a bronze
Did the Ortofon cartridge have that surface noise when it was new? Or do you think the stylus was worn and ready to be replaced at this point? I've heard that surface noise can definitely increase as the stylus becomes worn.
I would say it wasn’t worn, I’ve had that stylus only 1 year tops
Your cartridge is sitting far behind. The sound is muffled. You need to set the right overhang of 18.9mm.
Are you using the same headshell?
jeszcze jak byś ustawił prawidłową wysokość , co w tej wkładce nie jest takie oczywiste to było fantastycznie 😉👍
Nag has fuller sound
It is an upgrade for sure! Especially depending on which LP you're spinning at the time. Also, props for skipping the RT-81 and taking more control with the RT-82! A nice setup for sure! 👍
Thanks! Yeah, I knew that if I went with the RT82 that I cuold start slowly inch may way up to something like the 83,84 and 85. All thoer are is better platters then carts, so it's just components.
Did you record the needle drops with a mic or line out?
Unfortunately I mic’ed it. When I attempted to line out to my PC audacity was not having it. So there’s some room tone mixed in
@@theoutgroove3051 I appreciate the reply. Would be very interested to hear the comparison with line level recording instead of mic'd. Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm tho! How have you found the cartridge now that it's been a while?
@@cx2988 I love it! Sounds so much better. Remember, this video was when I just installed it so I didn't burn it in yet. Now it's even better. I would love to see how far this upgrading carts go, but the next level I think is around $400, so I'm not ready to roll the dice on that. Honestly, I'm good right now!
Nagaoka brighter cartridge
It's not just your pickup that needs to be replaced...I hear that your speaker is weak......🤓
Well,i always get a wtf? feeling when i see that ppl adjusting their cartridges with this paper adjustment templates.
Its more of an estimate really. Its okish with conical and rougher ellipitical needles,but finer cuts need definitly
a more precise adjustment than this.
Even the most precise alignment only makes the cantilever parallel to the groove contact at 2 points on the record surface. As long as you're within 1 degree of arc you're close enough.
late here - boggles the mind : 1. companies require use of the little nuts when they could easily have a simple screw in system ( notably like Audio Tech switched from the basic atm95 to the at vm95 ). 2. also -at least Ya have the head shell that uses easily replaceable connect wires... my fairly expensive Thorens uses the wires direct from inside tonearm to back of cartridge - without even providing extra durability / strength with insulating tube coverings..... know what happens when one of these cheesy cheap plugs breaks - or the tiny wire itself where it connects ? T'table value drops to about 2 cents. simple engineering fools. beancounters ignoring customer use. seems MANY fairly expensive companies ( over $ 500. ). use the pathetic sire direct from inside tonearm to back of cartridge. granted it's one or 2 less connections and thus 'better'. the lack of durability is absurd.
Shit sounds the same
Hahahaha