It's likely that Nayuta doesn't know Asa has the War Devil inside her, but can smell that something is wrong with Asa. Kinda like how Yoru didn't realize Fami was the Famine Devil.
2:31:56 I don't think Nayuta/Makima are Devils controlling human bodies, like Yoru and Asa's situation, I think Fujimoto would have alluded to it at this point if that was the case, Nayuta is also literally twice the size she was as when we last saw her, roughly 6 months ago in the story, given it's March when this chapter takes place, Going from like, 5 to now looking 12ish, I think as a Devil she's just rapidly maturing, as I'd expect any "newborn" Devil to do when they respawn on earth. If It's just a Devil Possession of sorts, then I'm pretty sure she'd look the exact same that she did in Chapter 97 Who knows with Famine though.
I have an interpretation of how War Devil's power works. For it to be successful, the perception needs to be about some real demonstration of higher power (be it coercive, emotional, economic e.g.) and not just pure thought or belief of it being real. If only thought or belief were enough, there's no reason why Yoru's power couldn't have worked, because she really believed that Denji was falling in love with Asa, just as Asa was with him, but such love wasn't real. I find this interpretation more plausible than the one that implies that just a proper way of thought or belief (like megalomaniac or god complex) would make the War Devil, in theory, practically omnipotent to turn anyone into a weapon, and in Denji's case it failed because he is an exception for some reason.
btw denji didn't see asa/war kill that devil because he was focused on the penguin. (also the reason the plant is dying is because she waters it too much)
@@SomeEuropeanChick what I said is true though as it's never shown that denji saw what happened because he was never paying attention to asa or the eternity devil after they left the aquarium the only thing we see denji react to was the penguin and it being taken away. (This isn't an attack against you I just want to clarify what I meant in my comment)
so denji is stuck in an aquarium for like a week, then suddenly not anymore, then devil hunters show up, clean and interrogate the kids, and denji is just like 🙈🙉🙊
i am not taking it as an attack, and i am not attacking you. i am just saying it makes no sense to me that denji wouldn't even question why he wasn't in the aquarium any more, even if we did consider he was blind and deaf to all the chaos and destruction taking place 10 feet away from him.
@@SomeEuropeanChick I mean he never really talked or asked Asa about her abilities. You would think Denji would asks her if he saw what she can do but at no point in time did he addressed what happened in the Aquarium, just that he thinks he enjoyed seeing the penguin.
Unpopular opinion: people think chapter 120 ended Asa x Denji, but for me this is the first time I actually believe Fujimoto might actually go forth with the ship! Until 119 I thought it was just bait, but now he shows he's willing to actually develop things! In fact, if Nayuta and Yoshida hadn't intervened, I don't see how Asa x Denji could have happened.
I am riding AsaDen on Twitter everyday and I can confirm this as well. If we take examples of CSM itself, Denji had Makima on his mind throughout Barf Kiss, and Reze Arc. It means he held her in a very high place in his heart. The way AsaDen has been led in 120 is not even close to a conclusion - Asa is overthinking of Denji even after he stood up - Denji remembers this girl kissed him without any ill (according to him) - Asa, for the first time in a long time, felt happy and comfortable at her lowest point when she was running and stealing stuff with Denji in an aquarium If anything, I feel Fujimoto is taking her through more developments and dangerous people so that she will understand herself and love more, and will end up with Denji once again. And let's not forget, Yoru needs a love candidate to make weapon, Yoru can consciously feelwhat Asa feels, if Asa loves someone Yoru does too, and they still need Chainsaw Man.
I think the reason Makima couldnt alter Chainsawman's memories is because she saw chainsaw as superior to her. She states when confronted by Kishibe that she has the power to control those she believes to be beneath her. The reason Makima could alter so many other peoples and devil's memories was because she was either MUCH stronger than them while they were alive (like Angel, or Aki) or b/c she gained "possession" of them by killing them (like Quanxi and Reze)
i like that theory! it makes sense, bc i would feel inferior too, if i was supposed to be the devil of domination and control but then had to watch the entirety of hell celebrate the chainsaw devil and call him the hero of hell
My theory is that Yoru likes denji so she can't turn him, but her devil nature blinds her to the fact that because she cares, she can't own him. Basically it's more complicated than she thinks it is and hilarity ensues.
Asa has powers autism, also she likes cats, Reze's love and hybrid elements Makima's schizo obsessions and power I.E. "Yoru" kobeni's anxiety/poverty. She's perfect.
Makima, Nayuta, Fami etc are not fiends, nor hybrids. They're Devils. Devils that like human a lot are naturally born with human appearance. It's said multiple times in part 1, read closely
@@SomeEuropeanChick It's even simple to prove. Fiends can't make contracts with humans, only devils can. Makima had a contract with the japanese prime minister
bihh i SAY that she is a HYBRID, not a fiend. she is like denji. but unlike denji, the human inhabiting her body is in deep sleep mode, whereas the devil inhabitind denji's body is the one in deepsleep mode. denji and makima are perfectly mirroring each other.
@@SomeEuropeanChick But by definition a hybrid has the human in control. Pochita only took over since the contract was broken and he had to restore it. A contract isn't even needed to create a hybrid, it can be done artificially with surgery. It's explicitely told that the devils that love humans the most are more human in appearance, and Makima loved humanity so much in her own twisted way she had a fully human appearance.
i am not gonna go into this again. please watch my "truth about makima" video and/ or read through this thread: twitter.com/some_euro_chick/status/1626004687420784641?t=Tm9YSh-IDe6huAZZr9zNQw&s=19
about that "children are master manipulators" rant, i have a similar story. i love babies, but children around the age of 3 to 12 years old are the worst. my cousin was 8 years old (i think?) and at a family event i have to work on my school project on my laptop. he keeps bothering me and asked me to play games over and over again. so i gave him my phone but he wants to play games on my laptop. i saved my project and moved it to my harddisk, then i told him "no". but that little shit straight up threaten me that he would cry and tell his father i pinched him. told him to go ahead and no one would believe him. i made him angry to the point that he smashed my laptop to the floor, screamed, and cry (classic brat move). me, being a master manipulator, went to the bathroom, and when his parents and other family members arrived to the room, went out with a shocked face like "oh my god my laptop nooo" i told my uncle that his son wanted to play games on my laptop, i told him to wait because i have to take a dump, but he wouldn't wait and broke it. they believed my version of the story because it made more sense cause they knew their son is impatient little brat. now that i think of it, the old me is a petty mf for willing to lose a laptop rather than to comply to a bratty child's threat & demand 😂.
Funny how you miss out that everything was planned by Makima to break Denji, she really wanted to have Aki, Denji and Power to have the bond so that when she takes it away Denji will emotionally break and break the contract with Pochita, Makima did not kill Aki just because, it’s part of a grand scheme. No Himeno is not Aki’s gf, Himeno is not under Makima’s power they’re just partners that is even written on the letter Himeno sent to her sister. Yeah she liked Aki but their relationship is not more than friends and partners. Also about the chapter why are we not seeing Yoru tried to turn Denji again to a weapon, Nayuta just saved Denji there.
why is children having to worry about what other people think of them such a tragedy? Only a certified card carrying psychopath would have no such worries. all this childhood insecurity is normal part of growing up. it prepares you for the absolute never-ending hell that awaits you in adulthood. in comparison to what adults have to worry about, teen insecurity is the least of your worries. The only way to make people stronger is to hurt them gradually in a way that won't permanently ruin them.
Please do another live, chapter 121-122 AVOID UA-cam THUMBNAILS for any cost. 122 is out due to leak (probably Fujimoto's doing) i would love to hear theories about those chapters. AVOID UA-cam THUMBNAILS because the history is scalating too fast now, i cant say more, anything being said about those chapters are HUGE spoiler.
Now that i remember didn't we see himeno and aki naked in a bed kissing each other on chainsaw man anime first trailer. Maybe its nothing but i just want to say it. (And sorry for my english)
don't apologize, and yes you are right! someone in chat told me that yesterday, and it convinced me even more that the theory that aki would have been together with himeno if makima hadn't brainwashed him is true!
Isn't Yoru and Asa a fiend? A hybrid are devil's whose heart is given to the human body and the human usually is concious. A fiend is a devil which takes possession of a human body, and from what Yoru said she didn't take full possession for the purpose of needing Asa to guide her to act more "human" which is most likely why Asa is constantly in control of the body. So I personally believe that Yoru and Asa are a fiend due to the way Yoru describes what she did and from what we know all hybrids have a devil's heart rather then Yoru's situation.
It's likely that Nayuta doesn't know Asa has the War Devil inside her, but can smell that something is wrong with Asa. Kinda like how Yoru didn't realize Fami was the Famine Devil.
agreed
2:31:56
I don't think Nayuta/Makima are Devils controlling human bodies, like Yoru and Asa's situation, I think Fujimoto would have alluded to it at this point if that was the case, Nayuta is also literally twice the size she was as when we last saw her, roughly 6 months ago in the story, given it's March when this chapter takes place, Going from like, 5 to now looking 12ish, I think as a Devil she's just rapidly maturing, as I'd expect any "newborn" Devil to do when they respawn on earth. If It's just a Devil Possession of sorts, then I'm pretty sure she'd look the exact same that she did in Chapter 97
Who knows with Famine though.
idk we'll see, maybe
Nayuta is like.... a mix of power and makima... SHE IS CARTMAN NOW
I have an interpretation of how War Devil's power works. For it to be successful, the perception needs to be about some real demonstration of higher power (be it coercive, emotional, economic e.g.) and not just pure thought or belief of it being real. If only thought or belief were enough, there's no reason why Yoru's power couldn't have worked, because she really believed that Denji was falling in love with Asa, just as Asa was with him, but such love wasn't real. I find this interpretation more plausible than the one that implies that just a proper way of thought or belief (like megalomaniac or god complex) would make the War Devil, in theory, practically omnipotent to turn anyone into a weapon, and in Denji's case it failed because he is an exception for some reason.
this^
also BRO YOU KNOW YOU CAN COMMENT FOR FREE, RIGHT?? RIGHT????
@@SomeEuropeanChick Yes, it's just a support. I like ur chainsawman lives ^^
that is so kind of you, thank you so much 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
btw denji didn't see asa/war kill that devil because he was focused on the penguin. (also the reason the plant is dying is because she waters it too much)
i love it when my son is just blind/deaf/otherwise handicapped
@@SomeEuropeanChick what I said is true though as it's never shown that denji saw what happened because he was never paying attention to asa or the eternity devil after they left the aquarium the only thing we see denji react to was the penguin and it being taken away. (This isn't an attack against you I just want to clarify what I meant in my comment)
so denji is stuck in an aquarium for like a week, then suddenly not anymore, then devil hunters show up, clean and interrogate the kids, and denji is just like 🙈🙉🙊
i am not taking it as an attack, and i am not attacking you. i am just saying it makes no sense to me that denji wouldn't even question why he wasn't in the aquarium any more, even if we did consider he was blind and deaf to all the chaos and destruction taking place 10 feet away from him.
@@SomeEuropeanChick I mean he never really talked or asked Asa about her abilities. You would think Denji would asks her if he saw what she can do but at no point in time did he addressed what happened in the Aquarium, just that he thinks he enjoyed seeing the penguin.
I like when she tells Denji to fix his posture, because I remember to fix mine as well, thx for keeping me on the healthy path Elda!
always, my child
bruh the comment at 2:04:35 about the theory that denji does random competitions with nayuta so she doesn't feel superior to him 😳😳😳
Unpopular opinion: people think chapter 120 ended Asa x Denji, but for me this is the first time I actually believe Fujimoto might actually go forth with the ship! Until 119 I thought it was just bait, but now he shows he's willing to actually develop things! In fact, if Nayuta and Yoshida hadn't intervened, I don't see how Asa x Denji could have happened.
I am riding AsaDen on Twitter everyday and I can confirm this as well.
If we take examples of CSM itself, Denji had Makima on his mind throughout Barf Kiss, and Reze Arc. It means he held her in a very high place in his heart.
The way AsaDen has been led in 120 is not even close to a conclusion
- Asa is overthinking of Denji even after he stood up
- Denji remembers this girl kissed him without any ill (according to him)
- Asa, for the first time in a long time, felt happy and comfortable at her lowest point when she was running and stealing stuff with Denji in an aquarium
If anything, I feel Fujimoto is taking her through more developments and dangerous people so that she will understand herself and love more, and will end up with Denji once again.
And let's not forget, Yoru needs a love candidate to make weapon, Yoru can consciously feelwhat Asa feels, if Asa loves someone Yoru does too, and they still need Chainsaw Man.
I think the reason Makima couldnt alter Chainsawman's memories is because she saw chainsaw as superior to her. She states when confronted by Kishibe that she has the power to control those she believes to be beneath her. The reason Makima could alter so many other peoples and devil's memories was because she was either MUCH stronger than them while they were alive (like Angel, or Aki) or b/c she gained "possession" of them by killing them (like Quanxi and Reze)
i like that theory! it makes sense, bc i would feel inferior too, if i was supposed to be the devil of domination and control but then had to watch the entirety of hell celebrate the chainsaw devil and call him the hero of hell
2:53:00 only asa would call an aquarium with literal infinite space a "small place"
My theory is that Yoru likes denji so she can't turn him, but her devil nature blinds her to the fact that because she cares, she can't own him. Basically it's more complicated than she thinks it is and hilarity ensues.
i love this romcom trope, slayyy
1:32:30 2:48:15
40:45 awww, Elda quoting The Fault in Our Stars, what a knowledgeable mom
The reason for the plan dying could actually be too much care, as Aloe Vera who are inside really die off only if they are being watered too much.
they can also die from too little water. but that one def shows signs of death by drowning lmao
Lol, never thought you'd be back so soon. Good shit!!
Nayuta reminds me of the protective bratty little sister but with powers
Asa has powers autism, also she likes cats, Reze's love and hybrid elements Makima's schizo obsessions and power I.E. "Yoru" kobeni's anxiety/poverty. She's perfect.
Makima, Nayuta, Fami etc are not fiends, nor hybrids. They're Devils. Devils that like human a lot are naturally born with human appearance. It's said multiple times in part 1, read closely
YOU read closely idk why yall are so stubborn about this
@@SomeEuropeanChick It's even simple to prove. Fiends can't make contracts with humans, only devils can. Makima had a contract with the japanese prime minister
bihh i SAY that she is a HYBRID, not a fiend. she is like denji. but unlike denji, the human inhabiting her body is in deep sleep mode, whereas the devil inhabitind denji's body is the one in deepsleep mode. denji and makima are perfectly mirroring each other.
@@SomeEuropeanChick But by definition a hybrid has the human in control. Pochita only took over since the contract was broken and he had to restore it. A contract isn't even needed to create a hybrid, it can be done artificially with surgery. It's explicitely told that the devils that love humans the most are more human in appearance, and Makima loved humanity so much in her own twisted way she had a fully human appearance.
i am not gonna go into this again. please watch my "truth about makima" video and/ or read through this thread: twitter.com/some_euro_chick/status/1626004687420784641?t=Tm9YSh-IDe6huAZZr9zNQw&s=19
about that "children are master manipulators" rant, i have a similar story. i love babies, but children around the age of 3 to 12 years old are the worst. my cousin was 8 years old (i think?) and at a family event i have to work on my school project on my laptop. he keeps bothering me and asked me to play games over and over again. so i gave him my phone but he wants to play games on my laptop. i saved my project and moved it to my harddisk, then i told him "no". but that little shit straight up threaten me that he would cry and tell his father i pinched him.
told him to go ahead and no one would believe him. i made him angry to the point that he smashed my laptop to the floor, screamed, and cry (classic brat move). me, being a master manipulator, went to the bathroom, and when his parents and other family members arrived to the room, went out with a shocked face like "oh my god my laptop nooo"
i told my uncle that his son wanted to play games on my laptop, i told him to wait because i have to take a dump, but he wouldn't wait and broke it. they believed my version of the story because it made more sense cause they knew their son is impatient little brat. now that i think of it, the old me
is a petty mf for willing to lose a laptop rather than to comply to a bratty child's threat & demand 😂.
lmfao that is insanity
Lmfao, that little brat learned something that day, you probably created an even more devious little shit 😂
Funny how you miss out that everything was planned by Makima to break Denji, she really wanted to have Aki, Denji and Power to have the bond so that when she takes it away Denji will emotionally break and break the contract with Pochita, Makima did not kill Aki just because, it’s part of a grand scheme. No Himeno is not Aki’s gf, Himeno is not under Makima’s power they’re just partners that is even written on the letter Himeno sent to her sister. Yeah she liked Aki but their relationship is not more than friends and partners.
Also about the chapter why are we not seeing Yoru tried to turn Denji again to a weapon, Nayuta just saved Denji there.
funny how i didn't miss out on anything and idk why tf you think so lmfao
why is children having to worry about what other people think of them such a tragedy? Only a certified card carrying psychopath would have no such worries. all this childhood insecurity is normal part of growing up. it prepares you for the absolute never-ending hell that awaits you in adulthood. in comparison to what adults have to worry about, teen insecurity is the least of your worries. The only way to make people stronger is to hurt them gradually in a way that won't permanently ruin them.
idek where to start wtf bro
38:00 Asa is not beating those femcel allegations 😭
Please do another live, chapter 121-122 AVOID UA-cam THUMBNAILS for any cost. 122 is out due to leak (probably Fujimoto's doing)
i would love to hear theories about those chapters. AVOID UA-cam THUMBNAILS because the history is scalating too fast now, i cant say more, anything being said about those chapters are HUGE spoiler.
patience, my child. i will, and don't worry
Now that i remember didn't we see himeno and aki naked in a bed kissing each other on chainsaw man anime first trailer. Maybe its nothing but i just want to say it. (And sorry for my english)
don't apologize, and yes you are right! someone in chat told me that yesterday, and it convinced me even more that the theory that aki would have been together with himeno if makima hadn't brainwashed him is true!
Can put the chapter time stamps in the video like you use to
It will take some time but it will happen within 2 days for both the streams :)
eppy my man ❤️
Ye, another great stream. Nice.
no u ❤️
la ñ es vida, la ñ es amor, la ñ es poderosa
Asa going through that noelle level of denial
Isn't Yoru and Asa a fiend? A hybrid are devil's whose heart is given to the human body and the human usually is concious. A fiend is a devil which takes possession of a human body, and from what Yoru said she didn't take full possession for the purpose of needing Asa to guide her to act more "human" which is most likely why Asa is constantly in control of the body. So I personally believe that Yoru and Asa are a fiend due to the way Yoru describes what she did and from what we know all hybrids have a devil's heart rather then Yoru's situation.
It is a theory on this channel. You can listen to it over here -
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NTR let’s go
Is it really ntr if they aren't even in a relationship?
It looks like Nayuta has a very "controlling" personality...
I'll let myself out.
the exit is that way, sir 😔🫴
Am glad Asaden got postponed for later I couldn't handle an 80+ chapter of Asaden my least favorite ship I actually hate it.
natural selection will come for you, weakling
@@ThatEuropeanChick Yoshida x Asa is the way
@@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404 eww
@@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404 fuck I hope Yoshida ruins it Lmao
@@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404 🤢🤮
Why does everyone cling to makima in my opinion nayuta is totally different