Vegetarian Tries To Escape VEGAN
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- Vegetarian Tries To Escape VEGAN
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Journeeeeyyyyyyyy...
Process, journey, guilt tripping, expensive she tookthe course.
She is basically telling you. I'm eating food that's making me sick. But I won't stop eating it. And I will say I can't go vegan because I'm sick. But it's because of the animal foods i'm eating it's vegetarian circular logic.
Everyone uses animal products.
The only people employing circular logic are people like you.
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
Can't eat tofu? You mean you can't eat beans, potatoes, greens, legumes, nuts, avacado, rice, peas, or any vegetable that is obtainable in a supermarket? Non-vegans act like avoiding animal products is the most rocket science thing in the world.
Soybeans are on the list of the Top 9 food allergens, but that's actually referring to GMO/genetically engineered soybeans (over 82% of all grown) But also on that list is MILK and EGGS
@harveyplantharvester1502
Also, majority of ALL allergies are caused by dairy consumption.
@@harveyplantharvester1502 Facts! These carnists do not care about allergies when it comes to milk for some reason.
Who would want to eat tofu
@@PreciousLuna1988 Plenty of Asians who grew up with it eat it. Don't be a racist and act like the world revolves around YOUR culture.
I was vegetarian for 8 bloody years, going more and more plant based over time. It was just cheese in the end, but no one gave me the information about the dairy industry... pushing 8 vegan years this summer. Man, I wish I had a TARDIS, go vegan right away!
Awesome approach, holding her accountable, it's great you are not watering down the message, especially when they want to leg it!
All the best from Germany!
35years non vegan this yr and man it feels awesome
@@PreciousLuna1988 you can change too, if you have any morals at all, but I guess you don't 🤷 For a grown up you sure act like a child
@@nicolao.dos.santos do you take any suppliments for vitamin b12¿¿. Did you get ur COVID shot¿¿. Do you take any form of medication including pain medication¿¿. Please answer me
@@PreciousLuna1988 What does medicine have to do with veganism? Do you actually know the definition of veganism? Also the biggest consumer of B12 supplements (and antibiotics) is the livestock industry.
@@garibaldi54 it has a lot to do with veganism. Ur COVID shot was tested on animals before it was approved for humans. Suppliments and medication have geletin in it which is animal fat. Oh and so does ur smart phone. Also medication was tested on animals too. So you getting your COVID shot or taking a tylonel for toothache relief is no better then me and my girl eating the chicken wings we are about to make tonight
The more guilt she felt, the more she wanted to run away.
Remember Hindus, Shiva wants an AHIMSA world!
Excuses are the nails that build a house of failure
Guilt comes from within you when you know you're doing something wrong. Vegetarianism isn't enough.
Exactly, funny how the trolls get so triggered. You can't be bothered by something that you truly find acceptable and believe you're right about.
Bacon & eggs today. Cottage pie tomorrow. Waiting for the guilt but it never appears. Could be that I'm a Christian...
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme Ahh so you're also ok with slavery, homophobia, sex trafficking and oppressing women, that explains it.
Oh and btw try reading your bible because bacon isn't allowed. Leviticus 11:7 'And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.'.
@@Unmasking_Viandalisme By your logic you can do any disgusting thing you want and say it's okay I'm Christian. You are pathetic you comment on every vegan thing available. If you support torture, abuse, rape and murder of innocent animals you are a Satanist not a Christian.
@@garibaldi54can't speak for other meateaters that are triggered, that's on them but I could never be vegan because veganism is not about health
She has a medical issue, and is vegetarian and only consumes cheese as a food from animals. Is the inference that cheese treats or mediates her medical condition (hypothyroidism?). For people who do not consume animal flesh, cheese is probably the next most psychologically addictive food from animals. Most of us who are vegans can remember what that's like.
So if cheese is not treating a medical condition, it's pretty easy these days to taper off the cheese with vegan pizza, vegan cheeses, and maybe a cashew butter faux-cheese flavored concoction.
I'm not sure if meat if actually addictive, but cheese (milk, specifically casein ) is scientifically proven to attach to dopamine receptors.
You shouldn't have soy with thyroid medication but there are many different legumes that she could eat. Also it is recommend to eliminate dairy when it comes to thyroid issues as well so it seems like she is just making up excuses to keep eating cheese.
She really didn’t want to hear the truth😅
Great activism, I like the answers the outreacher gave. Calm, to the point, uncompromising. 👍
Ah yes, convenient and magical medical conditions where the only prescription is cheese... Do they know how ridiculous that sounds?
Vegan cheese is no good, it must be cheese that comes from animal cruelty, exploitation and abuse. only that cheese fixes health
That has been THE most popular justification of 2023, its ridiculous how often ive been hearing it.
She's taking handfuls of synthetic supplements and buckets full of cow pus - and she wonders why she has so many "medical restrictions."
Very VERY RIDICULOUS!!!!
It's called complete protein
She obviously was feeling guilty. I think she used health as an excuse when really her true reasons are culture and conveniency. Some people just don’t want to think or feel for animals. Sad… Great job as always Steve.
I use health as my reason to not be vegan
@@jimmyobrien8738Then you’re unintelligent, or uneducated.
@jimmyobrien8738 Yet you can’t ever hold a conversation in regards to it or back it up with clinical data.. why don’t you rephrase that to you use your “ignorance and arrogance” as a reason to not be vegan.
If you disagree.. I’ll ask again as others have.. PROVE it. Reference something credible advocating a vegan diet is unhealthy…
@@paulb8251 I never said a vegan diet is unhealthy, I'm asking science to investigate ex vegan health claims, why can't you get that through your thick skull
@@paulb8251 Can't reference something that doesn't exist.
You're telling him to prove a negative which is impossible.
There is no healthy plants only diet and no studies prove otherwise.
Quitting cheese was hard, but no cheese is worth what happens to calves and their mothers (and also their fathers who often get things shoved up their butt and later slaughtered).
Liked because i'm a journeyphile
Mean ol' vegan! How dare you make people realize they are making moral choices when they eat meat or dairy!
You use animal products just like everyone else here.
Moral inconsistency or just need to feel like you belong?
I love the way you maintain the importance of URGENCY throughout the conversation.
So many who're on a journey who really just don't want to believe they're the cause of their victims suffering.
Everyone here uses animal products including him.
He just pretends to be against it for subs, likes, and attention.
@@SteversChed
Really Chad? Because I'd bet money on the fact he's living vegan. Why do you think you're so frightened by showing kindness to animals?
@@thunderingox6963 What does showing kindness have to do with using animal products?
Yes, he really uses animal products.
@SteversChed
You're obviously frightened by the thought of showing kindness towards animals. I understand. Cowardice is a very common human response when faced with uncomfortable truth.
First, learn the definition Chad. Then come post silly arguments in public.
@@thunderingox6963 He uses animal products needlessly that are possible and practicable to avoid.
That covers both the definition and the doctrine.
Good to see you have nothing to refute me and are forced to continue to try to derail the facts.
Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
Great outreach. You asked the right questions and she started feeling uncomfortable because of that. It was clear why she ran away… i hope she stops with the excuses and goes vegan.
Thanks for speaking up for the animals ✊
Meat is my choice
@@maxmcintyre5068I doubt you’d feel the same if you replaced the word ‘meat’ in your sentence with ‘rape’, ‘child abuse’ or ‘racism’.
@@titovalasquesur really comparing ANIMALS to all of that???
@@miamor2001 Your statement says more about you than it does about me and according to your post you’d be fine with someone torturing, killing and eating your pet.
@@titovalasques youre insane.
EXCUSES EXCUSES!
No need to make excuses, just affirm your position and that's it
About the 3:30 mark, take note everyone.
She says "I know what happens" when Steve asks what has to happen to get cheese.
This is such a common thing that people say "I know" when in reality they don't know and have tried up to this point not to know.
So the follow up was asking "can you tell me what happens, explain it to me" and I if they can't explain it, well then they get to learn.
Perfect.
It takes compassion and courage to change.
There is no justification for not being Vegan no excuses, no grey areas, if you are fully aware of the horrific suffering and violent death you are causing and paying for but still choose to participate in the Animal Holocaust, you are an animal abuser and murderer.
What about health?
Also call me what you want just don't call me too early in the morning 😊
@@jimmyobrien8738 there is nothing healthy about eating someone's corpse.
If eating animal products were healthy for you they would not cause all the health issuesand deaths they do,heart disease, stroke, cancer,diabetes, obesity ,high blood pressure, osteoporosis etc.
When you consume the body of an animal that has experienced torture, horrific suffering, abuse and violent death you are ingesting all the fear,panic,pain,suffering and violence that the animal experienced before and while they were being murdered, it affects the human body right down to the cellular level.
There is no justification for not being vegan, if you are fully aware of the animal holocaust and you still choose to participate even though you could easily choose something else to eat you are an animal abuser .
Many top world class athletes are vegan,they have no problem staying healthy.
Check out "25 ripped vegans " pt 1and pt2. Lots of info on the huge benefits of eating a whole food All plant diet , you will be amazed !
If we can live without taking lives or harming animals then why would we choose something else? People are not murderers or animal abusers if they know what is going on but it takes them time to change. I'd rather have people knowing what they do and consciously choose what they choose rather than people choosing to not know - which is most people. Also, people being forced into something is not right even for a good cause. Like you said, we have to have compassion. It might be just what this person needs to hear, it might be the last thing she needs to hear. Only she knows. The person in the video is obviously not a monster and her eating cheese doesn't make her so. Feeling guilty doesn't make someone a good person. Choosing something out of guilt doesn't make a person feel good about their choice. It creates a self-abuse situation... And that's terrible and not helping because someone who is doing something from a place of guilt will not be able to maintain it. It's not sustainable... Being vegan should not feel like torture. It's supposed to feel great and it does feel great when we are aligned with ourselves. Being vegan can be the best thing someone can do, but it can also be the worst thing. It all depends on why they choose it. At this point in time, we have to become aware of our choices versus going with the motions and not realizing what our choices entail.
@@mdslzy9116 this is 2024,it has never been easier to be vegan.
When someone is fully aware that their food choices are causing horrific suffering and violent death to kind,innocent, defenseless animals and continues to participate in the Animal Holocaust for a piece of cheese because they are too weak minded and it pleases them , it is unacceptable, if you were the victim ,if you were the one suffering would that be acceptable to you ?
One is either for abusing and killing animals or one is not. It is not complicated.
I'm 100% sure she's not really doing it for health reasons. She's doing it for cultural reasons. Milk, cheese and other milk products are part and parcel of Hinduism so its kinda like a tough cookie to crack. But hope she realises and goes vegan.
Scandinavians could use the same excuses but I still know several Indian and Scandinavian vegans.
Why do you hope she does something you won't even do yourself?
Journey 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Excellent outreach. Thank you fellow vegans 💗💗💗
I would be very interested to know what medical restrictions require the consumption of cheese.
0:08 She’s on a Journey everyone! Stop making her feel bad about her shitty choices!!!! 🙄
Excuses excuses. Not wanting guilt, when told what you are doing. This is the stuff I would have felt, before understanding how ridiculous I was being. Feeling guilty here is good, you are not being gas lit and lied to. This is what you are doing to animals.
What medical conditions stop people from being vegan? Honestly, I want to know.
None!
Cognitive dissonance and narcissism -- they're mental conditions.
Having a brain
Health maybe🤔
@@jimmyobrien8738 Health maybe what?
Less then 15 seconds in and already heard the word "journey" 😅
Me me me me
Cheese is the number one cure when diagnosed with the "health problems" condition.
Journey journey journey
I don't believe she has got health issues. Cheese is not a substitute for tofu anyway.
it seems to be the new argument from people, kind of trendy answer: medical reasons 🤦♂️
i had irritable bowl syndrom, so no nuts, seeds, legumes,.... and protein for gym was important to me..... is just bla bla bla where a will there a solution (btw now i can eat all again)
‘It’s a process’. Translation: ‘My own needs take precedence over animals’ lives’.
Just like you...
Why do you use animal products then?
the cogs in her brain are dis sonating❣
The fact that she runs away is guilt.
I could never be vegan, do you want to know why.
Or she wants to et away from a hysterical obnoxious bore.
@jimmyobrien8738 No.. save yourself the embarrassment.
@@paulb8251 what embarrassment?
@jimmyobrien8738 The fact you state the same thing in each comment section yet dodge any intellectual rational conversation about the topic over and over..
If you put yourself in someone else's shoes then you realize what someone else is going through. That's how you get humility humbleness and compassion
If you call livestock 'someone' then we already know you have bias because only humans can be 'someone.'
@@SteversChed you say that because it's easier for you to disconnect that an animal is actually a living being because then it would make it easier for you to do the heartless thing that you do.
@@Rescue127 I say that because it's an objective fact that you can see for yourself by looking up the definition of 'someone.'
You use animal products from the same animals that I do...
Why is it okay for you while the rest of us are heartless?
@@SteversChed are you a CCP troll? No I do not use animal products so stop trying to grasp at straws. You might want to start looking at your own immortality and figure out what you can do to make the world a better place instead of disrespecting animals and people.
@@Rescue127 "No I do not use animal products so stop trying to grasp at straws."
Thanks for proving your dishonesty.
Animal products are present in many things.
Asphalt, some types of money, electronics, and most housing materials to name a few.
How did you reply without using electronics? Smoke signals?
Thanks for the easy win and your concession since you can't refute me.
Her friend seemed to be more interested in talking! 😂
It’s seemed like she is from India and millions of cows roam the streets there because they cannot be legally killed and are business liabilities for the dairy farmers due to the dairy demand. So anyone paying for dairy is directly paying for it.
I’m vegan since more than 6 years and mostly vegetarian all my life but hardly eat soy … although don’t know what conditions she has but people can use legumes and supplements (which people might already be taking in terms of fortified foods or vitamin D in northern world) like B12 and vitamin D is not in sun.
Verbal abuse from this guy is on another level. Kudos to this girl to continue for so long.
Little troll “megadeath” 😂😂😂 more like mega idiot
@@Untillallarefree Good to see you agree with his comment and have nothing to counter.
Why do you use animal products while only pretending to be against it?
Steve taking no nonsense haha good stuff. Unfortunately sometimes being made to feel uncomfortable about things we know aren't right but because others do the same things we never question ourselves properly
That's ok but can he make a change 🤔
Thanks so much for posting as always guys.
Am particularly interested in Steve line of questioning regarding possible guilt. I’m writing a book on soothing very similar so would be interested to hear more about this. Hopefully see you guys soon and will bring some questions maybe 😊
This is Joel from WTF Southampton btw ☺️
Not sure what her consuming dairy has anything to do with her not being able to eat tofu or soy 😅 someone with so many medical restrictions really shouldn't be drinking milk from another species
If no one feel guilt they won’t change
Yes that's why I'm not vegan, there is no guilt for wanting to be healthy
@@jimmyobrien8738 what makes u think u can’t be healthy being vegan. Where any study in world saying u must eat animals to be healthy
@@MoistVegan You tell us after you actually decide to do it.
When you stop using animal products instead of just pretending then maybe you would gain a bit of credibility.
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
@@SteversChed I don’t
You guys are great activists.
Hope she recovers from addiction
Thanks for posting!!!
You can’t force empathy.
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thank you for being a strong voice for the animals!!!💚🌱
He uses animal products just like everyone else here.
He just wants attention.
Great job! Amazing
Spot on.
The vegetarian won this one. Unanimous points decision
Nope you are wrong
Thank you for standing up for animals ✊✊✊✊
He uses animal products needlessly himself.
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Alway's excuse's , "vegetarian tho " , when will they learn.
Process, journey, yawn
Vegertarianism is the intelligent diet ' vegan diet is dangerouse ' thousands of Long term vegans have returned to a normal diet because of health issues ' there is a difference between compassion and Animal worship
You are delusional
@@Untillallarefree And you have no counter.
Why do you use animal products while only pretending to be against it?
because she has problems with her thyroid, she should avoid eating soy and tofu, as a vegan it's a lot more difficult to get your protein intake without eating soy and tofu, especially when you don't cook
They make soy free tofu which has 64g of protein in a block.
There are plenty of foods with vital wheat gluten as a source of protein.
I never use to like cooking but you can make up plenty of meals in 5min or so that are protein packed. I mean even a PB and J with some wheat bread you can get 20g of protein. I think people just need to educate themselves more before dismissing the idea. There is an endless amount of recipes and ideas online.
You're confusing the adjective with the noun again.
Why do you use animal products while only pretending to be against it?
Good
So say she is telling the truth about her limitations, she should say "to hell with my health"? Even if there are ways for her to be vegan, they might make her life far more difficult then she cares to make it. In the end it's her choice to make
I honestly cannot wrap my head around the fact that people feel bad eating animals, when biologically - we are designed to eat them (hence vegans having to take B12 supplement’s). Ever seen a person that has been vegan since childhood? They look unwell. It is also terrible for your teeth (dental nurse, so I can confirm). Also, why would you choose a diet that restricts animal products and then buy and eat meat substitutes? Your body is clearly trying to tell you that you need meat if you’re eating meat substitute…
I’m 36 and I never felt bad for eating animals
1) Humans have 98.3% of the same DNA as gorillas. The gorillas diet is 98% from plants, and 2% comes from ants, termites, and snails. Despite all the carnivore talk about the red meat "ancestral" human diet, humans throughout history very likely had a diet much closer to that of gorillas.
2) There were more non-animal sources of B12 for humans prior to industrialized farming. Nowadays meat eaters also supplement their B12 because the B12 in the animals they eat comes from lab produced B12 that is fortified in the feed of those animals. That's because cobalt in pasture and grain producing soils has been largely depleted, so animals used for human food make a lot less B12 (cobalamin) in their intestinal tract from natural sources.
3) Non-vegans take a lot more supplements overall than vegans. Food from plants is less energy dense, more nutrient dense, and has ample fiber, which feeds the gut microbiome, which supports the immune system and brain (Dr Will Bulsiewicz). Western non-vegan diets are very fiber deficient.
4) Non-vegans often make lame and meaningless attacks, like: "Ever seen a person that has been vegan since childhood? They look unwell." Is that one supposed to be persuasive? And as a dental nurse, do you inquire about the diet of patients? And do you keep data proving your weak assertion? ... just more dubious nonsense. If you want to make a legitimate point, cite some actual research instead of taking the lazy route.
5) The meat substitutes you fret about are not Group 2A (red meat) or Group 1 (processed meat) carcinogens. The substitutes are completely optional and a lot of non-vegans eat them too. What is your scientific evidence that "Your body is clearly trying to tell you that you need meat if you’re eating meat substitute." That's just another assertion with no merit. But it just kinda makes sense, if you don't think about it, huh. Or maybe it's just that people who grew up with meat but don't want to impose exploitation and abuse on animals enjoy having that choice now and then.
Why do you continue to pay for imposing exploitation and abuse on animals? Pleasuring one's mouth apparatus with animal flesh seems like a kind of perversion to me.
We are not biologically designed to eat animals. Also, we all have biases. Are only vegans going to the dentist? Are they the only people having issues... My hygienist told me most people that go to the clinic are nonvegan. She also said that the vegans one that go are the ones that have issues with their teeth. It makes me wonder, do most of the patients have no issues... Coz it sure looked like all the patients were not there just for fun. But sure, let's say it's possible that most vegans have issues with their teeth, it's possible. It's also possible that there's some bias there. It might be for other reasons but whatever the root cause, it's not a good practice to "pre-diagnose" someone and much less a whole group of people. It prevents the person from actually solving the issue. Whatever that issue is.
packed three different fallacies into one dumb comment here
@@veganforlife5733 Gorillas eat a lot of animals.
We also have a very different digestive system with more acidic stomach acid.
"Why do you continue to pay for imposing exploitation and abuse on animals?"
Good question, answer it yourself since you use animal products needlessly for sensory pleasure from the same animals people eat.
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Ban Slaughter
When the people telling us to ban it stop using animal products themselves then maybe it would be worth looking in to.
Eat vegan cheese #GoVegan
Why should anyone bother to do what you're unwilling to do yourself?
Journey 😂
if you want something, you will make it work. so stop making excuses and admit you dont want it
I want health
@@jimmyobrien8738 what is health
@@maggot1111666 A healthy diet with plants and animal products.
There is no healthy plants only diet.
@@SteversChed you still haven’t defined what you think health is. If I think you could have a healthy plants only diet, but we have a different idea of what health is, the conversation will go in circles
@@maggot1111666 Good to see you have nothing to refute me. I think you replied to the wrong person anyway.
Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
At least the girl is trying,its not like she is saying sod it I dont care. Surely at least its better for the animals being vegetarian than eating lots of meat everyday.
A dairy cow ends up as a meat cow after 4 to 5 years when her milk production tapers off.
yt videos: "Desperate cow chases after her calves on their way to slaughter" and "Bull Chases Truck to Save the Cow He Loves"
and "Mother Cow Protects Baby Calf, Attacks Dairy Farmer"
@@veganforlife5733 You use animal products from the same animals that people eat.
Why is it okay for you to do that while only pretending to be against it?
Journeyer spotted. Yuck.
Wow vegan, natural bodybuilder. Probably vegan last 5 months😂
Hahaha cry baby troll
@@Untillallarefree Good to see you agree with his comment and have nothing to counter.
Why do you use animal products while only pretending to be against it?
@@SteversChed another cry baby troll 🤣🤣🤣 animal abusers
@@Untillallarefree Reduced to insults because my question proves you don't even practice what you preach?
Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
@@SteversChed waaaahhh wahhh wahhh cry baby troll still breastfeeding 😂😂😂
Another casein addict.
I’m vegan ….. but you’ll like a cult
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Your not vegan
@@Untillallarefree You're*
Why do you use animal products while only pretending to be against it?
EXCUSES EXCUSES!!!
Is that all you can say 🤦
@jimmyobrien8738 Coming from the clown who copy and paste the same thing on vegan activists channels for months and dodges any and all conversations on the subject… 🤡
@@paulb8251 what did I dodge please remind me?
@@paulb8251 Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
I predict you will dodge any intellectual rational conversation about this question over and over..