I use EOS R as general purpose camera and also for sports. It's not that bad as many described. Check some of the photos I took with an R and 70-200 or 135mm. happygym.be/grand-prix-thiais-2019/ happygym.be/happy-cup-2019-2/
I photograph sports and found the black-out to be an issue with me due to losing my mark on the subject in motion. I started with the EF 70-200 and it was definitely an issue. There is a feature on the EOS R called ‘High Speed display’ that reduces the refresh of the EVF to less than 5 FPS, but it doesn’t work on adapted lenses - only RF glass. It doesn’t make the EOS R a competitor of the 1DX MkIII, but it does make a respectable improvement over the basic settings to where I can use it for basketball, football, or swimming. Try this out and see if you see an improvement. It is set to OFF by default, but you can switch it on by going to MENU > CAMERA page 6 > High Speed display > ON
Thanks for the input man, yeah I've been trying that out definitely. Yeah its not a comparison for the 1dxiii no way, but at less than half the price it shouldn't be anyway.
I use both Canon 1dx mark ii & Nikon D5 camera systens for Action/Sports & Wildlife. I was covering a euro 2020 qualification and friendly international games were both under floodlights at Dublins Landsdowne Road before the Chinese virus arrived. I was given a loan of both Canon Eos R and Nikon Z6 & Z7 cameras with lens adaptors to test out alongside my regular camera gear. I used both mirrorless cameras in the teams warm ups and the first 20 minutes of the first half of the euro qualifiers and friendly game. My experiences on both Canon and Nikon mirrorless under floodlights wasnt anyway impressive. Like most sports photographers I use back button focusing. I used both mirrorless cameras set up with the same settings I normally use on my Canon 1dx Mark ii and Nikon D5 cameras. Initially both mirrorless cameras lock on but don't track the subjects as well as a Dslr cameras. The mirrorless battery life is rubbish compared to dslr cameras. Lag however slight is always a tad slower to lock back on or just goes blurred on both mirrorless cameras when focusing on players running head on or tracking across the pitch following the ball and players. The buffer on both mirrorless cameras was totally inferior and filled up really fast so cuts out any long tracking of any type of action. Card types needed to be CF express for sports to be excepted to work in such a harsh environment. My colleagues had also tried the same mirrorless cameras and had the same problems with the mirrorless cameras. Portrait or doing something similarly with the basketball players in bright sunlight is ok but like you said a slight lag when you following a player. Additionally the build quality wasn't anything like the robustness of either the Canon 1dx Mark ii or the Nikon D5 was another thing that was annoying. Each cameras didn't have a grip so felt very alien. I wouldn't even consider myself switching to mirrorless cameras due to these issues. Mirrorless build quality is woefully inadequate com6 to my current Canon 1dx Mark ii and Nikon D5 camera systems. I have ordered the Canon 1dx Mark iii and Nikon D6 are on back order here in Ireland. New R5 or R6 and Nikon pro mirrorless or whatever the new Nikon Mirrorless version of the D5/D6 will be called I will wait until more reviews are done. Both mirrorless pro cameras will have to surpass in all areas the current Pro dslr cameraz to even warrant considering. My work going from Athletics to off shore yacht racing has shown I wouldnt feel safe in using either mirrorless cameras for clients or personal use.
@@RobSambles worth doing a Canon 1dx Mark ii or mark iii versus the Canon R5/6 in a sporting environment under floodlights and daylight to see what you think.
What does the evf look like when shooting continuous? Does it look like a jerky set of photos? Want to move to mirrorless but following action smoothly is important to me.
I just used the Canon EOS R for a local 5k race and it did okay. I probably wouldn't recommend it without the RF 70-200mm lens, though, for sports photography.
It's been 2 years now, EOS R price has gone down a lot. For the price right now, would you still consider the EOS R for fast paced photography like sports or event (concert etc)? If you still consider EOS R a good camera, what setup would you use? If not what camera that you would take instead of EOS R? Thank you so much
Another sports photographer here. Thanks for the time you put into your videos (your one on remote shutters inspired me to get that sorted). My main sports body is the 1dxmk3 and really can't compare the R with that for professional/senior sports with quick action. I have used the R for slower kids sports and its been ok, with the big benefit being the smaller size, even with the grip. For me the grip's essential to get a better hold on the camera, especially if you're used to a bigger body. My main use has been event and studio portrait work, where the updated eye focus and size have been really good.
Will this work for taking video of surfing? I currently use the Canon 7D mark 2. Video is 60mp. This camera is only 30. I bought the new Canon 100-500 mm lens not realizing it’s only for the R series. So looking for one the go with it or return it. Thank you. Hope you see this.
I got an R to learn and evaluate, I was unsure of the EVF and wanted to see what it was all about. I like you figured out and turned off the review to help eliminate the some of the lag but it was still there, I understand that if using R glass it is even better, I received my 1 DX III and have used it for basketball, softball and baseball before it was shut down. The mirrorless use of the Mark iii was so impressive that I sold my R with the anticipation of the R5 and R6, the auto focus is outstanding on Mark III and I see no reason for the 5 & 6 not to have it, if they do I will be selling the 1dx ii and replace with one of them. For team and individual photography the R was outstanding!
im in the market for a new camera for sports photography im trying to decide out of the 90d and eos R or R6 or go Sony. Can you let me know what you consider what I should do??
Perfect: I bookmarked this two years ago, as I do not normally shoot sports in general, but do my best to capture my BIL when competing in Ironman. Kona next week and I want to be semi-ready :) With Iron Man, shooting from the sidelines and not a bike, It seems best case I get him at one or two places on the run, then if I am fast enough, back at the finish line. Usually, it is easy to stay on him with any autofocus method, except maybe the finish line so am going in with your suggestions and see how it goes. Torn between my go-to 24/70 and the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM Lens. No the 24/70 doesn't get all the shots, but it can be really forgiving.
I am a novice in sport photography and just got a Canon R for birthday. What lenses should I get for good rugby photos of teenage matches and also landscapes and travel photo?
Hi Rob, thanks for the review. In your examples of photos taken with the 1DX and the EOS-R I noticed that the depth of field appeared significantly shallower in the 1DX images than the EOS-R captures. Were you shooting at the same F-stop on both of the cameras? One of the things I have noticed with Canon and Sony mirrorless cameras is that with the same F-stops I tend to get more background blur from the DSLR's than the Mirrorless cameras. A technician told me that it has something to do with the Flange distance with mirrorless cameras. Anyway, I am just curious as to the settings you used for the 1DX vs. the EOS-R, specially the f-stop. Thanks.
That's really interesting man, I might try to review that for a video. I've also noticed the depth of field difference between the eos r and dslr I think you are right.
I agree AF is sweet, but: turn on AI + leave continuous focus on = battery drain in no time. Blackout is not a problem at all. Biggest problem is FPS, with AI on, you don't even get 3 real fps, but slighly less (even 6D mark II has a faster burst, but AF is not as precise). This software requires optimisation, or a way powerful processor and bigger battery. Adapter with the ring is a must, the camera lacks fisical controls.
I am currently a 5D MKIII & 7D shooter, but will be going to mirrorless soon. Originally I wasn’t considering the R, due to the AF not bring good for action shots, however it seems that has been fixed in your great video. Thank you.
Rob Sambles first thing I am going to be doing is see what Canon announce on Thursday on the R5 & R6, then I will get the M6 Mark II later this month as a start out to mirrorless and to give my 7D some needed rest. Then I will start saving for the Full Frame mirrorless.
I have the 5D MKIII and bought the EOS R several months ago. A couple of days ago I used both the 5D MKIII and the EOS R at a wildlife sanctuary. The 5D MKIII seemed to focus faster than the EOS R.
I had the opportunity to borrow one to use as a second body shooting at a triathlon. For action shots, it was pretty mediocre....that 5 frames per second limit using AI-servo is just torturous. But, I did love it for the pre-race photo-journalistic shots of competitors getting themselves set up etc.
What are you guys using the EOS R for?
I use EOS R as general purpose camera and also for sports. It's not that bad as many described. Check some of the photos I took with an R and 70-200 or 135mm.
happygym.be/grand-prix-thiais-2019/
happygym.be/happy-cup-2019-2/
Rf 24-105mm f4 is ;EF 24-70 f2.8 L ll USM ; RF 35mm f1.8 is ; EF 85mm f1.8; ef 50mm f1.4
Portraits
I photograph sports and found the black-out to be an issue with me due to losing my mark on the subject in motion. I started with the EF 70-200 and it was definitely an issue. There is a feature on the EOS R called ‘High Speed display’ that reduces the refresh of the EVF to less than 5 FPS, but it doesn’t work on adapted lenses - only RF glass. It doesn’t make the EOS R a competitor of the 1DX MkIII, but it does make a respectable improvement over the basic settings to where I can use it for basketball, football, or swimming. Try this out and see if you see an improvement. It is set to OFF by default, but you can switch it on by going to MENU > CAMERA page 6 > High Speed display > ON
Thanks for the input man, yeah I've been trying that out definitely. Yeah its not a comparison for the 1dxiii no way, but at less than half the price it shouldn't be anyway.
There is a video out there of a pro photographer using the EOS-R and 300/2.8 to shoot NFL games, and his results were excellent.
Yeah that was Peter Reid Miller on his UA-cam channel.
@@RobSambles That's it!
What was the best settings
Great vid!
Thank you for your video, that's what I was looking for!
I use both Canon 1dx mark ii & Nikon D5 camera systens for Action/Sports & Wildlife. I was covering a euro 2020 qualification and friendly international games were both under floodlights at Dublins Landsdowne Road before the Chinese virus arrived.
I was given a loan of both Canon Eos R and Nikon Z6 & Z7 cameras with lens adaptors to test out alongside my regular camera gear.
I used both mirrorless cameras in the teams warm ups and the first 20 minutes of the first half of the euro qualifiers and friendly game.
My experiences on both Canon and Nikon mirrorless under floodlights wasnt anyway impressive.
Like most sports photographers I use back button focusing.
I used both mirrorless cameras set up with the same settings I normally use on my Canon 1dx Mark ii and Nikon D5 cameras. Initially both mirrorless cameras lock on but don't track the subjects as well as a Dslr cameras. The mirrorless battery life is rubbish compared to dslr cameras. Lag however slight is always a tad slower to lock back on or just goes blurred on both mirrorless cameras when focusing on players running head on or tracking across the pitch following the ball and players. The buffer on both mirrorless cameras was totally inferior and filled up really fast so cuts out any long tracking of any type of action. Card types needed to be CF express for sports to be excepted to work in such a harsh environment.
My colleagues had also tried the same mirrorless cameras and had the same problems with the mirrorless cameras. Portrait or doing something similarly with the basketball players in bright sunlight is ok but like you said a slight lag when you following a player.
Additionally the build quality wasn't anything like the robustness of either the Canon 1dx Mark ii or the Nikon D5 was another thing that was annoying. Each cameras didn't have a grip so felt very alien.
I wouldn't even consider myself switching to mirrorless cameras due to these issues. Mirrorless build quality is woefully inadequate com6 to my current Canon 1dx Mark ii and Nikon D5 camera systems. I have ordered the Canon 1dx Mark iii and Nikon D6 are on back order here in Ireland. New R5 or R6 and Nikon pro mirrorless or whatever the new Nikon Mirrorless version of the D5/D6 will be called I will wait until more reviews are done. Both mirrorless pro cameras will have to surpass in all areas the current Pro dslr cameraz to even warrant considering. My work going from Athletics to off shore yacht racing has shown I wouldnt feel safe in using either mirrorless cameras for clients or personal use.
Interesting read thanks man. I'll be interested to test it further
@@RobSambles worth doing a Canon 1dx Mark ii or mark iii versus the Canon R5/6 in a sporting environment under floodlights and daylight to see what you think.
What does the evf look like when shooting continuous? Does it look like a jerky set of photos? Want to move to mirrorless but following action smoothly is important to me.
I just used the Canon EOS R for a local 5k race and it did okay. I probably wouldn't recommend it without the RF 70-200mm lens, though, for sports photography.
It's been 2 years now, EOS R price has gone down a lot. For the price right now, would you still consider the EOS R for fast paced photography like sports or event (concert etc)? If you still consider EOS R a good camera, what setup would you use? If not what camera that you would take instead of EOS R? Thank you so much
Keep watching some of my other videos, I talk a bit about this topic and my transition to the R6
Another sports photographer here. Thanks for the time you put into your videos (your one on remote shutters inspired me to get that sorted). My main sports body is the 1dxmk3 and really can't compare the R with that for professional/senior sports with quick action. I have used the R for slower kids sports and its been ok, with the big benefit being the smaller size, even with the grip. For me the grip's essential to get a better hold on the camera, especially if you're used to a bigger body. My main use has been event and studio portrait work, where the updated eye focus and size have been really good.
Thank you, I appreciate it. Yeah absolutely it's not a comparison for the 1dxiii
Will this work for taking video of surfing? I currently use the Canon 7D mark 2. Video is 60mp. This camera is only 30. I bought the new Canon 100-500 mm lens not realizing it’s only for the R series. So looking for one the go with it or return it. Thank you. Hope you see this.
I got an R to learn and evaluate, I was unsure of the EVF and wanted to see what it was all about. I like you figured out and turned off the review to help eliminate the some of the lag but it was still there, I understand that if using R glass it is even better, I received my 1 DX III and have used it for basketball, softball and baseball before it was shut down. The mirrorless use of the Mark iii was so impressive that I sold my R with the anticipation of the R5 and R6, the auto focus is outstanding on Mark III and I see no reason for the 5 & 6 not to have it, if they do I will be selling the 1dx ii and replace with one of them. For team and individual photography the R was outstanding!
Yeah I think the R5/6 will be the game changer. Thanks for sharing
im in the market for a new camera for sports photography im trying to decide out of the 90d and eos R or R6 or go Sony. Can you let me know what you consider what I should do??
Perfect: I bookmarked this two years ago, as I do not normally shoot sports in general, but do my best to capture my BIL when competing in Ironman. Kona next week and I want to be semi-ready :)
With Iron Man, shooting from the sidelines and not a bike, It seems best case I get him at one or two places on the run, then if I am fast enough, back at the finish line. Usually, it is easy to stay on him with any autofocus method, except maybe the finish line so am going in with your suggestions and see how it goes. Torn between my go-to 24/70 and the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM Lens. No the 24/70 doesn't get all the shots, but it can be really forgiving.
Hows the low light perfomance of eos r for sports photography ?
I am a novice in sport photography and just got a Canon R for birthday. What lenses should I get for good rugby photos of teenage matches and also landscapes and travel photo?
nice video, for wildlife and bird woud you go for the eos r or for the 90?
Hi Rob, thanks for the review. In your examples of photos taken with the 1DX and the EOS-R I noticed that the depth of field appeared significantly shallower in the 1DX images than the EOS-R captures. Were you shooting at the same F-stop on both of the cameras? One of the things I have noticed with Canon and Sony mirrorless cameras is that with the same F-stops I tend to get more background blur from the DSLR's than the Mirrorless cameras. A technician told me that it has something to do with the Flange distance with mirrorless cameras. Anyway, I am just curious as to the settings you used for the 1DX vs. the EOS-R, specially the f-stop. Thanks.
That's really interesting man, I might try to review that for a video. I've also noticed the depth of field difference between the eos r and dslr I think you are right.
Does it really work for 8fps?
I agree AF is sweet, but: turn on AI + leave continuous focus on = battery drain in no time. Blackout is not a problem at all. Biggest problem is FPS, with AI on, you don't even get 3 real fps, but slighly less (even 6D mark II has a faster burst, but AF is not as precise). This software requires optimisation, or a way powerful processor and bigger battery. Adapter with the ring is a must, the camera lacks fisical controls.
All fair points but I still there's loads of positives
@@RobSambles Totally agree, I think it's the best Canon you can get util R5, unfortunately it's got a big limitation for sports.
I am currently a 5D MKIII & 7D shooter, but will be going to mirrorless soon. Originally I wasn’t considering the R, due to the AF not bring good for action shots, however it seems that has been fixed in your great video. Thank you.
There are certainly some restrictions for action shots on the R, frame rate for example, but AF is fine.
Rob Sambles first thing I am going to be doing is see what Canon announce on Thursday on the R5 & R6, then I will get the M6 Mark II later this month as a start out to mirrorless and to give my 7D some needed rest. Then I will start saving for the Full Frame mirrorless.
I have the 5D MKIII and bought the EOS R several months ago. A couple of days ago I used both the 5D MKIII and the EOS R at a wildlife sanctuary. The 5D MKIII seemed to focus faster than the EOS R.
Interesting part starts at 06:15
I shoot aviation and i loved the image quality of the EOS R, but just couldn't stand the EVF. Bought an R5, sold the R.
I had the opportunity to borrow one to use as a second body shooting at a triathlon. For action shots, it was pretty mediocre....that 5 frames per second limit using AI-servo is just torturous. But, I did love it for the pre-race photo-journalistic shots of competitors getting themselves set up etc.
Yeah image quality is lovely
@@RobSambles The EOS R5 looks like it might be a lot closer to the mark for serious sports photography.
@@freshiephotography1872 Yeah I agree the specs for it look great
I love the Eos R!
Yeah me too so far
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