Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - 1x20 Father Before the Grave - Group Reaction
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2018
- Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood continues this week after an intense fight last episode! Watch the Normies react to this chapter of the story with Episode 20 - Father Before the Grave. Let us know your thoughts on this episode!
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I love the debate of whether Hohenheim is good or bad, connected to the Homuculi or not. Because it's exactly what's supposed to happen at this point.
Spoilers? Maybe. Just to be safe, under the Read More
I was sadly spoiled of the Hoenheim story back in 2003 when people were arguing about whether the anime or manga was better at the time, so by the time Brotherhood came out, I sorta already knew a few things. I'm kinda disappointed about that since people kept saying the manga was different.
The anime screwed it up a bit.
Mild Spoilers
The manga shows Father rising for his chair and announcing he was going out for a bit one or two chapters before Hohenheim shows up in Resembool. The anime cut it out because it doesn't really connect to anything, and because the anime was still going at an extremely fast pace at this point (even though they were using new material), but it really gives one less evidence to keep the "They're the same guy" camp going.
Another example of cut content due to the fast pace of this arc, during the events of last episode, Lan Fan and Ling fight Envy (they were cooperating with Mustang after Barry saved Ling, basically keeping disctactions away), which establishes the fact the Xing characters are able to detect the Homunculi by their abnormal chi. It's a really cool scene where Envy keeps trying to get away and mixing with the crowd but they always find him. That's omitted entirely from the anime.
Thank goodness the studio found a better footing and pace later on, or else a lot would have been lost and Brotherhood wouldn't be as good of an adaptation as it is.
Can't wait until they see his story.
I'm surprised they didn't pick up on the fact that Hohenheim purposely asked Pinako about the body the brothers transmuted, after seeing the dog stop barking at him, and go into the hallway, (He knew Ed was there and would hear) knowing Ed would dig it up, and come to the conclusion that what they attempted was impossible, thus giving them closure. He *does* care about them, and that one simple implication gave them hope again.
To be fair, I've seen the entire show 6+ times, and I never picked up on that. Maybe that makes me dull, but picking up on new things each time is part of what makes FMAB so great
Why are you suprised? You think everyone is identical to you? Or in any way similiar? Weird mindset to actually be suprised when seeing others behave or react differently.
@@Gnossiene369 he didn’t say that did he? its even weirder to me that you even jumped to a conclusion like that.
@@Gnossiene369 weird mindset to think, write out, and post this dumbass comment.
@@esoteric_knight4037 that’s kinda exactly what he said. Kinda dumb to assume people would pick that up on their watch
That moment when Al confesses to being lonely at night was very powerful.
The last few scenes always gets me, hearing Al and Izumi cry in relief at not being the ones to kill their loved ones a second time.
Oh I know. Can you imagine what it was like for the brothers and their teacher, thinking that they brought their loved ones back in bodies that didn't survive and watched them die again? That's something that would eat at your soul. Knowing the truth freed them from a guilt that they never should have had in the first place.
@@darthroden i always Get emotional. And these scenes always get to me.
It breaks me every time I reserve it
"Truth" described himself to Ed as...
"I am what you humans refer to as The World, or perhaps The Universe, or perhaps God, or perhaps Truth, or perhaps All, or perhaps One, and also you..."
I like the subtle imagery when Al says he can't stand the nights on his own at 13:30. He looks up and the light reflecting off his armour makes it look like there are tears running down his face. Nice little detail to show how he feels even though he cant show emotions
Nice catch.
yeah, its a shame that the anime dont show the suffering of Al, in the manga they show us Al all alone in the night and this scene gain much impact
Actually the title of this ep in manga is “the tears”
You got it!
lol i thought those were real tears because anime logic but your explanation makes sense
"How can they just forgive him?"
awwww navi..... its just episode 20........ hold on to this show!!!!!!!
6:06 Holy shit! This is the first time I’ve seen someone catch the reason Ed was having aches.
JustCallMeSchwick "That's cool." "It is not cool it sucks ass."
Well said.
Victor Singer-Carter
Oh really? I must’ve forgot. It’s been a while since they reacted to that episode
That's not the real reason he was gripping himself and throwing up, though, that's just the excuse he gave to granny--much like Mustang's earlier "it's raining" excuse when he cried.
Ed was aching and throwing up because he was SUPER stressed digging up what he thought was his own mother's corpse.
carlotta4th
No. He was throwing up because he was digging up the corpse. He was aching because the automail prosthetics.
@@SchwickFAFO it could be a mix it doesnt have to be one or the other
I love how navi keeps glancing at the camera when she thinks she knows shit but her knowledge is just plain wrong in this version :D
Its like
"I know what you know, but I also know more"
She's an idiot and consistently have proven to be so.
@@Gadget-Walkmen facts
wheres the idiot in that? she watched the 2003 version and is reacting exactly the way anyone who watched it and is blind to FMAB is reacting..
@@deliciousdelight7847 we’re not talking about her looking at the camera, we’re talking about the stupid nonsense that she’s said repeatedly over and over in the most obnoxious childish way like a fool who only has a black and white view on reality. Like those fools in Twitter who mouth off constantly thinking they know what’s going on in reality when they don’t.
Her along side the guy whose besides, a match made in foolishness based on the nonsense they say together. She’s just the worst of the worst.
Winry (referring to Ed): that's weird, have his shoulders always been so broad?
Literally all the Normies: *turns into a wolf*
A lot of people go "OoOh" at Winry's comment there at the end and the dub DOES make the line sound like she is swooning XD. It is actually meant to tell us that Ed had been struggling under the hopelessness of their research and was suddenly standing tall and confident in the light of new-found hope.
@Ambander maybe, but there's literal context behind it that implies it's actually his new found resolve that she's noticing. If you've seen other anime/manga, people's backs often symbolize many things.
My hero academia for example. Not sure if you're familiar with the series, but heroes' backs invoking a feeling of safety in the people they protect is an abundant theme, since heroes literally stand between danger and civilians.
Backs in the distance, as was used as a title in another fmab episode, are often used to symbolize longing and/or inadequacy for the person watching from behind.
Ed and Al have been crushed by hopelessness for a while. This renewal of resolve helps Ed stand strong and tall again, and Winry notices how much he has grown. Wider backs/shoulders are equated with boys becoming men.
So yeah, perhaps attraction is implied, but it's not exactly the point of the scene if you consider what took place right before.
I don't think these are exactly unique to anime/manga but I've seen them often in the medium.
I partially agree with you, but there's no reason it can't be both--she's seeing him in a new light, as more of a man now that his resolve is renewed.
It's especially the little conversation before where she mentioned that she didn't like men who were shorter than her. That tells me that this is the point where her perception of him is starting to change.
@@Gamze-ql7kr I think it’s both mate
Suraj: Ahh. That's cool.
Chris: It is NOT cool, that sucks ass.
lol Suraj man think before you speak.
Ash Ketchup All of us who ever broke an ankle, cracked a bone or whatever know the suffering ahaha
Basically what the Elrics understood in this episode is that a human being cannot be brought back to life. Before these events they just assumed stuff like "it is possible to resurrect someone, but we must have messed up something in the formula or the execution of the alchemy", when in reality it was just "if you die you'll stay dead forever lmao that one thing you transmuted wasn't your mother but just an empty shell". Damn this show is sad.
** no spoiler** Just some info for nerds,
**edit: reply contain spoilers*
They didn't die because of high temperature. Philosopher stones are virtually indestructible by physical forces, it's why they call them "perfect material". It is the process of burning causes immense stress for their philosopher stone's healing potential. Because their flesh is being rapidly destroyed, their stones responds by rapidly using energy to regenerate them, and that output increases exponentially. So not for long, their stone's energy runs dry, they die.
Yup, the stones are functionally alchemic batteries. They don't actually bypass equivalent exchange, rather they substitute stored souls in place of the normal price for alchemy. Lust's stone could only create so many new bodies for her out of nothing before it ran out of souls to pay for the new matter.
*Possible Spoilers*
Really? I thought it was because the philosopher stones exist of a certain number of human souls, depending on how much are put into them when created. And Mustang just killed everyone of those souls. Am I wrong?
Isn't it because the stones have a certain number of souls stored in them? I always considered it like a cat with 9 lives scenario, there is a finite amount of times the Homunculi can die.
Since I am in a comment of intellectuals, does anyone know why the body and the sould have seperate consciousnesses in the show? And how is Al's body being sustained in the truth? (I think I actually remember that one) and what actually was the dwarf in the flask?
Titaniumtomato Al's body is being sustained by Ed's remember? Plus during episode 26 Ed mentions the body and soul were connected through the mind. So they don't share the same consciousness but they both have one.
Loved the group reaction to "Have his shoulders always been so broad?"
Classic!
Oooooooooooooooo!!
the result of good posture
I laughed because every single one of you were on the edge of your seat. Sooooo goooooooddddd
The thing that will drive you crazy is that the show doesn't give you answers about Hohenheim for so long so your are constantly trying to figure it out in your head.
Kris Hite couldn't wait for episode 27. Although it is a recap, it show how good they do it.
Marketa, the manga is so incredibly good. It's one of the few that I own, and I read it every year. Even though I know what's going to happen, it always moves me to tears.
Yup. The manga is one of the greatest of all time.
Oh yeah, I bought all 27 volumes as a birthday gift to myself years ago. It's still one of the best purchases I've ever made.
“I can’t take all the nights by myself..”
That line gets me every time 😭
You guys keep on bringing up winrys skirt but this anime isnt nearly as sexual as other anime's.
well, yes, but that doesn't mean it's above criticisms
+Tursun muhtar
When Winry is crying in bed and Al goes after her they mention how short the skirt is.
I don't really count a short skirt as sexualization. A panty shot, ridiculous "outfits" that barely cover nipples with a stripe, women fighting while wearing less than a bikini etc. yes. Winry's outfit, not so much.
Even her tube top is something she wears underneath her baggy overalls. She takes off the top when she gets warm, I guess. The two places I can remember her wearing it are 1. inside her own home, 2. around Rush Valley, which is supposed to have a very hot climate.
They must've still been traumatized from the actual fanservice and its lampshade from episode 19
Anime (and superheroes) media can be way too extreme, to the point of it being ridiculous.
The 2 times I really count as unnecessary sexualization in FMAB are the bathtub scene and the time where they show us a scene as if the camera just happened to be between her legs while she's facing what's actually happening. I'm not even sure that that Lust reveal would count since they're making fun of it.
YES! Hohenheim episodes!
Rule of thumb: Hohenheim episodes are ALWAYS great!
Side notes:
-Hohenheim only mentioned that to Pinaco because he _knew_ Ed was listening. You can see as he looks off to the side slightly.
-Al has been conscious for THREE YEARS STRAIGHT. He literally hasn’t had anything to do but think about what’s happened for three years straight. That’s insane.
The only real difference between FMA Original and FMA Brotherhood is that Original follows the manga faithfully within the first 30 or so episodes before breaking off. Whereas Brotherhood sort of goes through the first 30 episodes within the first 12. For example, the incident with the Tucker family only lasted one episode in Brotherhood, but in Original it lasted around 4 episodes.
Immediate like for the synchronized coffee sip xD
The first time I watched this episode I felt so bad for Al, he hasn't gotten a moments rest since they tried to transmute their mother its just been one very long day. It must be extremely stressful to never be able to sleep.
Lust used all the energy/souls in her stone trying regenerate while Mustang was attacking her. She essentially spent all of her lives. Once that happened, she died.
13:44 And Ed is thinking "Has her skirt always been so short..." :)
Chris, make sure to get a panda for Marketa :)
Everyone like this comment so he sees it!
This is one of my favorite episodes in the entire show. So powerful and emotional without a single action scene; just fantastic dialogue and some deep revelations that leave you wanting more.
Was the footage of the anime choppy for anyone else?
So fun watching FMAB again with you guys.. only wish that this episodes would come faster :P
One of my absolute favorite episodes. This is when I really realizes how different FMA 2003 and brotherhood are.
The ending song from the first series really suits this episode, Most people already know about this but for those who don't know, the song title is brothers by Vic Mignogna for the English version.
Yo the little stutters were irritating but when Ed was panting in the rain the glitches were perfectly synchronized with his breaths and It made me less upset
The black hair of the construct makes me think that they near made a Homunculus like the original series. Just didn't have enough bodies.
1ep each week is just not enough, we need more :'(
One third of the show now almost gone already.
Navi looks very beautiful.
I love the fact that Ed literally throws Ling and Lan Fan out of the apartment, and they just go "He'll calm down, we'll just chill in the hallway for a bit"
FMA is one of the best mangas.
Third Eye Its good but put some respek on berserks name
Whaaaaaat? When did Marketa cut her hair? Am I late on this? I feel like I'm late on this. Either way, she looks so good! 👌👌👌
3:12 synchronized coffee sip LMAO
Why can you guys either get the perfect video quality, or the worst, it's never in between
I love this episode so much
THEY NEEDED THE CLOSURE AND THEY GOT IT
Lmao that Synchronized Marriage Coffee bit was perfect
If people can't return from death, then Al must still be alive for this soul to be attached to the armor
Really like these 4. Couldn't wait for episode 27.
15:23 Did Navi just say that Brotherhood is ten times better than Fullmetal Alchemist... When they started watching Brotherhood she was talking about how much she loves Fullmetal Alchemist.
Well she hasnt watched fmab before. Just because she thinks fmab is better doesnt mean she doesnt love fma.
I grew up watching fma03 and i loved it but after reading the manga and watching fmab i think its better but that doesnt take away me loving fma03.
I've rewatched this anime so many times, but it's the first time in a while I've cried from this episode. Seeing you guys so emotionally invested just made my tears run down my face haha
Chris, you really are becoming a MVP of this channel
“Oooooooouuuuuu!!!!” 😂 love you guys
God i held strong for alot of momments in this show but that thank you from the teacher. Dunno why that hits so hard
Was anyone else having issues with the FMA video for me it kept glitching
I remember having 3 working theories for Hoenhein. None of them panned out because what the show showed, I didn't expect at all
Damn the quality of this episode >_
Dammit Alfonse... I cry every time he says he can't take those nights by himself
Those synchronized *Ooos* gave me life lmaoo
The quality of the video is really starting to ruin my experience.
Phatnaru0002 thought it was just me.
that entire last little bit with both al and izumi coming to the realization that they didn't kill their loved ones again brings a tear to my eye every time, and then al immediately breaks my heart with the lonely nights follow-up
what a damn good episode
Marketa is that a new haircut because it looks dope on you. You like like a sexy librarian.
vegetaouji333 gAy
The alphonse breaking down and saying he cant take the lonely nights and stuff, that shit hit wayyyyy more now.
It did before but ion know shit just diff now lol
Suraj phone messing up a great detail. You missed the photo Pinako is looking at while talking to Hohenheim.
Hey Navi, si Homonculi die when the regenerative abilities of their philosopher's stone run out (because those have a limit), so, either by burning or by any other attack, physical or alchemic, they would have worn her down to the point where she just disintegrated and became dust. So, there.
dat Cookie Cat shirt
The Walrus Queen React to Steven universe pls
Love Marketa's hairstyle here!
Lol i have the same phone case chris! Love it
The philosopher stone is a battery when the power runs out its gone mustangs attacks used up the power
*Patiently waits for episode 40*
“Umm I ordered one reborn mother, and this is not that. Can I please speak to your manager mr truth? I demand a refund of my brothers body”
Synchronized coffee sip! #Goals
1:02 It has nothing to do with temperature, Navi.
Mustang killed Lust multiple times until her philosopher's stone gave out. He says that in the episode.
10:28 Ed’s horrified scream to Winry’s reason just kills me XD
Lust was killed because her philosopher stone was used up. Philosopher stones are a perfect material that cannot be destroyed through conventional means (including high temperatures), but the homunculi draw power from the stones to regenerate themselves. While each stone has incredibly vast amounts of power within them (enough to seemingly break the laws of equivalent exchange) they can eventually run out of souls to draw power from, thus causing the stone to break apart. Mustang caused so much continuous damage to lust with his flames that her stone ran out of energy trying to regenerate her wounds, thus causing her to die. Another thing to take note of is that unlike greed who was reabsorbed by father, lust's philosopher stone was completely destroyed. Hold onto this information for later
What’s up with the video issues? It’s just FMAB... it’s really a bummer.
Griff Due to the sheer greatness that is FMAB, the video quality had to take a hit. Equivalent exchange
You should definitely check out FMA03 after you watch Brotherhood. It's also really good. Just a different storyline.
I've watched this series several times, but it dawned on me this time that inspite of Ed's apparent certainty when Barry made Al doubt he was real, Ed was actually plagued by that same doubt. And maybe he'd been dealing with it long before Barry.
The camera kept glitching everytime one of fulmetal moves
13:58- All aboard the EdWin train. Choo choo!
4:50
that's what fma 2003 adaptation is all about.
Chris’ theory that he doesn’t say and is sure of. It has to be that Papa Elric is Father’s Pride right? I was so certain at this point.
Oooo... I love the haircut.
the truth isboth a deity and Monad(in cosmogony a Monad refers to the first being, divinity, or the totality of all beings.) essentially the Truth is both a god and both EVERYTHING
"All of life's pleasures involve holes from your body"
Truer words have never been said
It’s not that the homunculie got too hot and they died, it’s that a Philosopher Stone only has X amount of charges and it takes so much energy to reform. So Mustang literally burned all her extra lives away.
I like how they still haven't listened or payed attention when the characters say stuff like, "How many times am I gonna have to kill you before you stay dead?". The homunculi are beings made by philosopher's stones, which are made of human souls. Think of them as batteries that self-recharge, but only contain a limited amount of charges. Those charges are the amount of souls used when creating the homunculus. Heat isn't what's killing them. It's exhausting those revives, draining the battery of its soul charges. That's what kills them.
Nice one guys!
It’s Hohenheim you guys probably already know that by now by just wanted to make sure
Community skit? Is that on the same channel?
The Real Lee yes
You'll the origins of Ohemhien (not sure if correct) from the origins and ypu'll know who is the one really wanted to own the Phil Stone!
Please see the original FMA
The sip x)
is it just me or is their source video consistently decreasing in quality?
12:47 kinda ruins the mood here lol
The mic sounds really weird stereo.
"Try not to be such a Ho"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
> Simultaneous howling at the end.
I wish they did the OVAs
I love Chris in reaction vids.
this is a good difference between the original FMA animation and Brotherhood. In the first, the moment Ed saw his dad, he punched him in the face.
What would happen...if he transferred his soul to another body that already has a soul...would it be a greed and prince situation or would the stronger soul take over?
Thank god I found that m key in the nick of time.
God Navi ... Sometimes... ah forget it.
Am I having a seizure or is the sound orientation reversed?
he has many names, the universe, the world, god, the truth, all, 1, you. that's why when someone is with him, he takes on their form, for ed and al, it was a child, and for izumi (teacher) it was the form of a young woman
Hehe, since no one else will watch the '03 version, i love how the homonculus were created because of failed transmutations. And the bodies that were transmuted end up opening the portal of truth, with spirits and beasts of the deceased constantly grab, take, and grasp whatever material body they can connect to because of their entrapment in eternal darkness -- thus the reasoning behind how the homonculus become materialized with someone else's spirit. It also means that when you gamble with lives, you'll could get a demon, bad spirits ect... or maybe even something nice. You just need to offer something of 'equivalent exchange'. Not a spoiler to this series, mind you. :)