@@LegendKiller246 really... and why would the orange man be impeached? or is it just because you still think the orange man is just bad... Good luck with that! Just sayin.. 🤷🏻♂️
***** Most likely not going to happen. In ideal world and in paper yes, thats how it should go, but when there is two shops, one serving everybody and one what serves no gays etc, the thick headed Christians go supporting the no gays shop and its the everybody serving that is getting the going out of business sign. If majority of town folks are Christians that follow Leviticus 20:1313 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death ; their blood will be on their own heads" And that is theyr reason for hating gays. They would go killing them if laws if they would not get jail sentence. For now they just discriminate against them, as its best they can do... And then people wonder why i think religion is worst thing ever happened to humans....
Hellsong89 Lets have a look at other things that are banned in Leviticus. leviticusbans.tumblr.com/post/23730370413/76-things-banned-in-leviticus Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
darkiee69 Cool! Really well done listing! Thing i was wondering is the "offerings to God".. I havent found specifications for that (or i'm too lazy). Like is giving money the church considered offering to "God"?
Hellsong89 I'm not sure. Whenever I do my money offerings I throw the money up in the air. God can take what he wants, and whatever falls down is mine.
***** do you not understand the difference between a corporation and a individual? If you were gay and needed a medical supply and every pharmacy in Indiana refused to do business with Gays, would you then have to move? Using a platform to oppress people is as anti American as it gets.
howdydutt1e I agree with you but doesn't a private pharmacy already have the prerogative to serve or not to serve whomever they wish? Are there scenarios where a pharmacy may decide to not serve a person and doesn't that private business already have the right to deny service no matter how arbitrary or obscure that reason may be?
How is it legal for a U.S. State to have a situation where it is possible to fire someone for being gay? Surely that would be against some federal law that overrides the state law?
29 U.S. states do not have protections in place for discrimination against sexuality or gender identity, and there is no federal statute that establishes that private business cannot fire an employee over their sexuality/gender identity.
Lennie Godber Completely separate issue. Most companies have policies against that, but a minority of states do, and there is no federal law on the books.
When I was a kid, a huge rift developed in my family. I had an aunt who was a bigot among other things, but almost like clockwork she'd show up Sunday mornings to goto church with my Grandmother. My Grandmother was a kind, christian lady who would out of her way to help people. In one case even stopping along the side of an interstate highway to help a group of black men who'd had a flat but didn't have a jack in their car. I'm sure she helped many others also, but I use this story to illustrate the type of woman she was. This tiny, little old, southern, white woman stopping to help four very large black men. At least they were large to me because I was five or six years old at the time. That being said; One Sunday morning my aunt shows up in her Sunday best and my Grandmother calls her out. She said she would not be going to her church with a "Sunday morning christian". All hell broke loose. Screaming and yelling that finally ended with my Granddad throwing my aunt out the house and telling her not to come back till she changed her attitude. My aunt was livid. My Grandmother, having already missed the morning service simply began cooking lunch. Fried chicken and biscuits, I believe and god how I miss her cooking. She explained to me that she had eight other kids who weren't nearly the pain in her butt as my aunt was. She made sure that I knew that she loved her daughter dearly but she hated her actions and attitudes. My Grandad, having survived as a regular Army rifleman in WW2, was less forgiving. "That pain the ass won't show up at my doorway again without getting her damn teeth knocked out".He was VERY protective of my Grandmother. In the end, this short narrative, is simply to prove a point. Christians can some of the best people in world, It's the ones that my Grandad would've knocked the teeth out of, that are a pain in the ass. Like in every religion. Far too many people use it a cash cow and bludgeon against others. But there are many many Christians, Muslims, Hindus and others that I'm not familiar with, that are just decent folks. Fox news would've been an embarrassment to both my Grandmother and Granddad.
"Militant gay community"... where do they come up with shit like that? However I guess that's the kind of thing I should expect that from a man who named his book, God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy.
+Jimmie Rustles Really? How about those militant blacks who protested and boycotted for their rights? Or those militant women who just _had_ to vote? Fuck off. People's rights aren't a goddamn question and there is no debate. Just shitty people who think their bigotry is "a different opinion" as they deny gay people service, the right to marry, the right to a family, the right to a living, and the right to not feel like a total outcast for something that IS NOT A CHOICE.
Peoples rights are a question and it is open for debate. However, the idea that we should somehow distribute the rights unequally based on race or what have you is what needs to go.
cholrus69 So then when framed in the context of specific human rights, where rights should apply equally to all people in a democracy. You agree with MrImagayguy, because you are basically mirroring what they said but disagreeing in a broader more vague sense. But you're saying some rights are up for debate; but when talking in terms of democracy it goes without question that rights to protection from discrimination regarding hereditary traits are not a gray area where sometimes it's okay to discriminate.
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 yes. They love to have a word to show they hate the very idea of gaining knowledge and have no appreciation or interest in empathy or diversity .
@@peterbathum2775 Yeah, the right wing political pundits basically call literally everything they don't understand and everyone they don't want to bother feeling empathy towards "woke" now. They've gotten very cruel and brutal
society is already crumbling, while more and more freedoms are stripped from it's citizens. and the freedom to be who we are, without governmental intrusion, is our birthright.
Jeremy Pooran that'd simply not true for many reasons. Freedom is based on liberty and that our laws that are vastly upheld by its citizens be enforced. When stupid people pass law that blatantly fuck to morality then they are violating freedom. They passed a law to deny gays yet gays are not ever requesting these "unique services" that people claim they do. A gay cake? Wtf
***** Leviticus 20:1313 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" Most likely he would be pissed they are not killing gays as he commanded. Anyone else thinking Jesus was just con man who got pissed when his boyfriend dumped him?
Hellsong89 A small-minded super-being with a bad temper. I gotta worship this dude! where can I sign up for this obviously awesome way to spend my 80 years on this planet?
***** Well that would be your local church, but i would not recommend it. Others what comes to mind would be in your local mosque what i would not also recommend, if you want just that super-being part, here i am! As act fast orderer you get little bit that bad temper as gift to your new proline personal God packet! Step right in to my lair! ;) lol
Hellsong89 Dude, I am a Christian, and while i might not agree with homosexuality, as a sinner, I have no right to judge another. There is only One who has the right to judge
Grant Gilcrease ... yeah its you local court system, right?.... Ou you were talking about "God"! Sorry my mistake... evidence for that "God" please?(for notice bible cant prove bible and no emotional responses thank you!)
***** You'll have a hard time in life being this superficial in your analysis method. And I'm not getting any deeper into this, just trying to help you out. If it doesn't fit you (or at least if you think it doesn't) just toss it. Peace.
Trevor Noah just has no backbone or presence when he’s speaking or even when he’s just sitting there. It’s more like you’re hearing someone recite their teleprompter simply cause they’re getting paid to rather than having anything genuine or intelligent to add to the discussion like Jon did.
+Supdude Took me a few tries but its a CNN anchor shown with a display of a photo with a bunch of people protesting with two signs one reading "Stop enabling hatred" (in bubble text filled with various colors) and "(cant read first line) thy name is pence". The photo itself is titled in all caps, "RELIGIOUS RIGHTS SHOWDOWN" Hope this helps.
SoulRippster It is home of the free: free money for the lazy, free to marry whoever you want, free to sue anyone for any reason (even if you are the criminal breaking into someone's house and suing the homeowner because you got hurt), free to practice your religion (with the stipulation that as long as it does not affect anyone else), free to own a firearm (for now), free to say what you want (so long as you do not offend anyone by saying it).
Donald Trump has pretty much pissed every minority in the country off except for the gays. Mike Pence has pissed off the gays. The go together like the words bomb and hydrogen, not exactly in that order.
00:23 "You didn't realize Mike Pence would become Vice-president and you'd be crawling under Stephen Colbert's desk as your part-time occupation, did you Jon? lol
Richard Pseudonymous There is a gay agenda. It's like feminist agenda. There is a Christian agenda, and many other agenda's. Everyone have their own agenda! What gays want is privilege for their beliefs and views to be held higher than religious beliefs. No one is saying you should be able to deny service to gay people but to reject certain customized messages written on cakes, T-shirts, other stuff that support pro-gay agenda. The same right that allows you to deny KKK cake should allow you to deny gay wedding cake. He makes comparisons as if making gay cake for conservative Christians is same as slow-dancing with Hitler is to jews -well, what if it is the same for them! Aren't they allowed to feel about homosexuality any way they want or actually feel? No one is making Jews slow dance with Hitler but nazi sympathizer can walk in to Jewish bakery and demand swastika as a sign on his cake. It's his right to have that, no law against it. What's the reasoning for the bakery owner to deny this man a legal cake? None, other than his sense of feelings hurt. But this man didn't hurt his feelings, him eating that cake won't hurt him, why should he not make the cake then? The reason is simple, it's custom requested, it's his right to refuse any customer's request he is uncomfortable with when he is asked to make it. Not just on religious grounds, but of any grounds - like, if you support one NFL team but someone want's you to make a cake with logo of rival team you should be able to say no! It sounds silly, it is silly, but the owner should have this right. That's the whole point. Is it good for business to deny gay cakes to people who are now going to be marrying in mass? Probably not just after recession and you don't want to come of as homophob anyway, but if someone wants to do it, his right. Plenty more will be happy to offer that cake. Yes, sadly, even the nazi will probably find someone to make a cake for him too. That's how it is when you have freedom in the country.
@@kekizeki2481 You’re a mouth breathing, knuckle dragger who uses your religion to lie about and oppress others. Then you turn around and claim you’re being oppressed by others because the checkout clerk said, “happy holidays” to you instead of, “merry Christmas.” You are absolutely pathetic.
Last I checked "freedom of Religion" was enshrined in the constitution. So under that bill if I own a store and 3 employees and one each says I need 5 breaks a day to pray because I'm Muslim, the other I cant work Friday night or Saturday because I'm Jewish and the Christian says I cant work Sunday because its my sabbath, I HAVE To accommodate them? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?
On one hand, he makes extremely valid points, on the other, I'm a little disappointed that he didn't make note of this law already existing in several other states and being federal law. No one talking about this, on either side, seems to bring up precedent, yet if you read the law, it essentially leaves its effects entirely up to the courts and precedent. It does not explicitly allow any group to discriminate against any other, but it does have a clause that is ill-defined that could be interpreted that way by the courts. It states that the government may only hinder a person's religious freedom due to a "compelling government interest". This could be seen as meaning that any law is a "compelling government interest", or that only certain laws are "compelling government interest", or that no laws meet that standard. If anti-discrimination laws in Indiana, which from the sounds of things don't exist on this subject anyways, are deemed by the state's courts to not be a "compelling government interest", and denial of service is deemed to be important to one's religion, then the courts could rule against LGBT people. Until such a ruling, the law IS ambiguous and does not necessarily discriminate against anyone, like Indiana officials have been saying. Refusing to clarify the language however, is a clear sign of either being arrogant and refusing to listen to other people's concerns, or actually hoping for the courts to rule on it against LGBT people.
***** I think that label applies to people like Dan Savage. The man acts like a bully who insults and belittles anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. He\s not a good poster child for the LGBT movement.
@***** WHO SAID: militant gay ?????? buba stop inbreeding Uhmm... militant; > vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause: engaged in warfare; fighting. LGBT POPULATION ; > vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause: engaged in warfare; fighting.
I'd just as soon the shop be open about their bigotry. This would make it easier for me to refuse to go to their store. Plus, if I went to their store and didn't know they hated me I wouldn't know about the spit in my drink. Yeah, let them discriminate. It only hurts them in the long run.
This bill was so bad, the DoC church, which is literally based in Indianapolis, decided to hold their yearly convention somewhere else that year. Even Christians wouldn't tolerate this nonsense.
Really was a shame this had to happen, I had the unfortunate expirence of touching that accursed bill as I was paging for the house in the week before it was passed. Really gives Indiana a bad name for a state that was really starting to improve, I'm ashamed to call myself a Hoosier right now, first time I've ever said that.
mike No one is passing judgment on them by not wanting to conform with their ideas, no more than an atheist is if he is refusing to acknowledge Christmas or any other religious holiday. That just doesn't concern him and he has right to be excluded from it. He can deny to sell or to paint any religious figures or make religious messages on cakes or whatever it is his business. In the same way religious people have the right to be excluded from carrying out anything that supports gay agenda or homosexuality in any way. What gays want is privilege for their beliefs and views to be held higher than religious beliefs. No one is saying you should be able to deny service to gay people but to reject certain customized messages written on cakes, T-shirts, other stuff that support pro-gay agenda. The same right that allows you to deny KKK cake should allow you to deny gay wedding cake. He makes comparisons as if making gay cake for conservative Christians is same as slow-dancing with Hitler is to jews -well, what if it is the same for them! Aren't they allowed to feel about homosexuality any way they want or actually feel? No one is making Jews slow dance with Hitler but nazi sympathizer can walk in to Jewish bakery and demand swastika as a sign on his cake. It's his right to have that, no law against it. What's the reasoning for the bakery owner to deny this man a legal cake? None, other than his sense of feelings hurt. But this man didn't hurt his feelings, him eating that cake won't hurt him, why should he not make the cake then? The reason is simple, it's custom requested, it's his right to refuse any customer's request he is uncomfortable with when he is asked to make it. Not just on religious grounds, but of any grounds - like, if you support one NFL team but someone want's you to make a cake with logo of rival team you should be able to say no! It sounds silly, it is silly, but the owner should have this right. That's the whole point. Is it good for business to deny gay cakes to people who are now going to be marrying in mass? Probably not just after recession and you don't want to come of as homophobe anyway, but if someone wants to do it, his right. Plenty more will be happy to offer that cake. Yes, sadly, even the nazi will probably find someone to make a cake for him too. That's how it is when you have freedom in the country.
Keki Zeki the cake thing makes sense, but that's just one example. As someone who works in a restaurant I firmly believe in the right to deny service for just about anything, but simply being gay is not one. For example if you go to a bakery and ask for a gay wedding cake with two grooms, I can see that. Especially if the person in question is making a scene. On the other hand, if a reasonable, albeit flamboyant, openly gay person asked for a birthday cake with a race car or something "normal" and was denied due to their appearance/sexuality, i'd have to say that's not okay. Also yes, some gays want special privilege in the same way that some "feminists" want privilege, just disguised as equality, but there are real gripes out there. A lot of them actually
mike Yeah well, the issue is not an obvious gay person asking for non-gay cake but they keep representing it as it were. It's not about the cake, it's about the message :) It shouldn't even be an issue: you can reject gay cakes but also expect some people to avoid your bakery, so it's very damaging in the long run if you do that. Bigger issue is if gays can be fired for being gays, because that's really sensitive issue, on the one hand everyone have a right to work an not be discriminated against, but imagine gay employe whose boss says he must reject making gay cakes? Of-course, things get awkward when the employer realises he hired a gay guy LOL
But that is exactly the issue. Just like you can't refuse service based on race alone, you shouldn't be able to do it with regards to sexuality. That is exactly the argument. In many ways asking a conservative wedding cake company to make a gay wedding cake is like asking mcdonalds to make a whopper. They just don't do it, that's their image. I still think that's messed up but you're right, that's the downside of democracy, people can choose, even if its the wrong decision. With regards to employment, it's not just about companies who's image directly opposes the gay lifestyle. Businesses can fire/refuse to hire sole based on sexuality even if sexuality isn't central to a company's image the way it is with our theoretical bakery. If the company is publicly opposed to the gay lifestyle, then gay people would naturally avoid employment there, however, even if they did they should have another reason for terminating their employment other then their sexuality (for example their refusal to comply to company policy i.e. refusing to refuse making a gay wedding cake)
So the blip at 1:55 after "without angie's list" is just the previous "religious rights showdown" still of the cnn news coverage. In case anyone was wondering.
+javalin597 If only that were true. We can be fired from our jobs and denied public office, and god knows what other shit I'm too depressed to look up right now. bc there's nothing scarier than a person whose decency hinges upon the human desire to be good and just without needing mortal fear to do so.
how does religious freedom trump civil rights? basically, I agree with freedom of religion, but I would draw the line if it conflicts with the safety, happiness, and the basic human rights of another person. common fucking sense.
0:08 Look at this lovely picture. All those people from different religions and denominations, peacefully, side by side, working hand in hand... united by their common hate and biggotry! Because what are small theological differences, when we all have a common enemy to battle: Love... well, love between two people of the same gender, because that's clearly something we need to stop!
The Ohio governor did something similar, said doctors don't have to treat gay people if it's against his or her religion. I asked him if I was an Atheist Doctor, would I be able to deny care based on my beliefs, too? 'Cause then I could refuse to treat Christians.
I don't know what I am. I think that most of the disputes we have in this country are about competing rights. The question becomes whose right trumps a competing right. In this case, and in my humble opinion, the right of the baker not to be forced to violate his religious beliefs trumps the right of the gay guy to get a cake. There are other bakers and there is internet. The gay guy has the option of going elsewhere. The baker does not have the option of changing his faith. But that's in this case. To me it's a case by case analysis for the most part. Or should be anyway.
so lets see some of the discriminations , I guess agenst people who oppose them, they did not have the power to deny people a cake now the homosexual community they were driven to suicide by christians, then were continued to be taunted, they were basically torcured to make them "normal" by the pray the gay away places it is obvious YOU are the ones being discriminated against
I don't think the baker did anything wrong. You don't want the customer? That's your choice as a business owner. And the rest of the country should not get up in arms about it either. It's silly, and does not concern them. Now, if this were an issue that were prevalent enough to where it was difficult to acquire something as simple as cake, that'd be another matter. What bothers me is the vilification of both sides. It doesn't help when they both do terrible things. They basically only prove each other right. I just go about my business treating everyone as equals, because I believe that's the way to screw over the fewest amount of people. And honestly, it's so much less stressful.
Bel-Shamharoth By the way, I did not mean to say the public overstepped their bounds by denouncing the baker. They were within their rights too. It's the forcing people to do things they don't want to do part that's the problem. Even if it's for the sake of "progress", you are not really helping anything.
Jon was so mad that he nearly slipped and inverted two words in the buildup to the punchline, which I only point out because I never saw him do that, not ever, or at least I never noticed it...
OverThinking I don't recall Trump directly saying anything bad about the gay community but the fact he chose this homophobic bigot as his VP probably says a lot.
You know at this point it's less about debating whether we should game out the "One nation under God" part of the pledge of allegiance, and more about debating whether the "liberty and justice for all" part is valid.
Here's my thought, if a business wants to deny someone service that honestly is their right. But everyone also has the right to call them out on it and do everything they can to make sure that business fails, capitalism is funny like that
I love that logic, "Well, we shouldn't "discriminate" towards the groups that were made to discriminate, if we're not going to discriminate against the gay people."
i will never at any point in my life understand how oppressing a subset of people who do not present any intentional hostility can be called "freedom"
+anon03030605 Fav youtube comment ever.
+anon03030605 Because then how are they gonna use their religious beliefs as a superiority complex?
+anon03030605 Hope that you never do.
+ZanoZik hail satan
Rosa Luxemburg nailed it with: "Freedom is always the Freedom of those that differ."
Never heard of this "Mike Pence" guy before. Wonder if he'll ever do anything noteworthy...
Then i guess you will be surprised to know what has happened now.
Loool
roflmfao
Soon to be president when the orange mango is impeached.
@@LegendKiller246 really... and why would the orange man be impeached? or is it just because you still think the orange man is just bad... Good luck with that! Just sayin.. 🤷🏻♂️
“Businesses in Indiana can still fire someone because they are gay.” Not as of yesterday they can’t!
However, they can still refuse service to LGBT people or evict them from housing. Probably while making a gay employee do it 🙄
@@LisaBeergutHolst This is why America needs The Equality Act into law, to prevent discrimination like this nationwide.
huh, so that's who Mike Pence is.
scary ain't it?
very scary
Yep. I literally know the people who own the infamous pizza place that denied gay people service. So glad I moved to away. Pence is a ding dong.
Omar Alor Weird, right?
What kind of pizza did they order that got denied, extra sausage?
God, I miss Jon Stewart probably more than any commentator ever.
He’s coming back. He’ll have a new show on Apple TV+ called “the Problem with Jon Stewart” and it will be airing in September.
Me too bro
He's never been truly replaced. Imagine him during the Trump presidency
I want him back
Well people 😊
Hopefully businesses with 'we restrict service' signs in their windows will soon be replacing them with 'going out of business' signs.
***** Most likely not going to happen. In ideal world and in paper yes, thats how it should go, but when there is two shops, one serving everybody and one what serves no gays etc, the thick headed Christians go supporting the no gays shop and its the everybody serving that is getting the going out of business sign.
If majority of town folks are Christians that follow Leviticus 20:1313 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death ; their blood will be on their own heads"
And that is theyr reason for hating gays. They would go killing them if laws if they would not get jail sentence. For now they just discriminate against them, as its best they can do...
And then people wonder why i think religion is worst thing ever happened to humans....
Hellsong89 I recall believing stories found in other books of fairy tales too. But I was a kid.
Hellsong89 Lets have a look at other things that are banned in Leviticus.
leviticusbans.tumblr.com/post/23730370413/76-things-banned-in-leviticus
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
darkiee69 Cool! Really well done listing!
Thing i was wondering is the "offerings to God".. I havent found specifications for that (or i'm too lazy). Like is giving money the church considered offering to "God"?
Hellsong89 I'm not sure. Whenever I do my money offerings I throw the money up in the air. God can take what he wants, and whatever falls down is mine.
Denying people basic human rights is insane, its frightening that shit like this can happen
Perez 510 I mean it's not a basic human right to be shunned by businesses but ok let's overreact
Some do.
Being able to buy something from a business is not a basic human right.
***** do you not understand the difference between a corporation and a individual? If you were gay and needed a medical supply and every pharmacy in Indiana refused to do business with Gays, would you then have to move? Using a platform to oppress people is as anti American as it gets.
howdydutt1e
I agree with you but doesn't a private pharmacy already have the prerogative to serve or not to serve whomever they wish? Are there scenarios where a pharmacy may decide to not serve a person and doesn't that private business already have the right to deny service no matter how arbitrary or obscure that reason may be?
How is it legal for a U.S. State to have a situation where it is possible to fire someone for being gay?
Surely that would be against some federal law that overrides the state law?
29 U.S. states do not have protections in place for discrimination against sexuality or gender identity, and there is no federal statute that establishes that private business cannot fire an employee over their sexuality/gender identity.
Austin Elliott You are disgusting. I'm sure you would like that very much. I'm also sure your "wee-wee" is the same size as your pinky toe. GET A LIFE
Ororo Munroe YES!! Insult me more, I'm a dirty girl. In all seriousness though, I'm not quite sure which side you think I'm on
Lennie Godber Completely separate issue. Most companies have policies against that, but a minority of states do, and there is no federal law on the books.
Lennie Godber Naw son there isn't anything but hopefully one day there will be.
When I was a kid, a huge rift developed in my family. I had an aunt who was a bigot among other things, but almost like clockwork she'd show up Sunday mornings to goto church with my Grandmother.
My Grandmother was a kind, christian lady who would out of her way to help people. In one case even stopping along the side of an interstate highway to help a group of black men who'd had a flat but didn't have a jack in their car. I'm sure she helped many others also, but I use this story to illustrate the type of woman she was. This tiny, little old, southern, white woman stopping to help four very large black men. At least they were large to me because I was five or six years old at the time.
That being said; One Sunday morning my aunt shows up in her Sunday best and my Grandmother calls her out. She said she would not be going to her church with a "Sunday morning christian". All hell broke loose. Screaming and yelling that finally ended with my Granddad throwing my aunt out the house and telling her not to come back till she changed her attitude. My aunt was livid. My Grandmother, having already missed the morning service simply began cooking lunch. Fried chicken and biscuits, I believe and god how I miss her cooking.
She explained to me that she had eight other kids who weren't nearly the pain in her butt as my aunt was. She made sure that I knew that she loved her daughter dearly but she hated her actions and attitudes. My Grandad, having survived as a regular Army rifleman in WW2, was less forgiving. "That pain the ass won't show up at my doorway again without getting her damn teeth knocked out".He was VERY protective of my Grandmother.
In the end, this short narrative, is simply to prove a point. Christians can some of the best people in world, It's the ones that my Grandad would've knocked the teeth out of, that are a pain in the ass. Like in every religion. Far too many people use it a cash cow and bludgeon against others. But there are many many Christians, Muslims, Hindus and others that I'm not familiar with, that are just decent folks. Fox news would've been an embarrassment to both my Grandmother and Granddad.
Worth pondering!
"Militant gay community"... where do they come up with shit like that? However I guess that's the kind of thing I should expect that from a man who named his book, God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy.
+RSPainter It's nice to know that our brave men and women in the military are supporting the equal rights of gays.
+Jimmie Rustles Really? How about those militant blacks who protested and boycotted for their rights? Or those militant women who just _had_ to vote?
Fuck off. People's rights aren't a goddamn question and there is no debate. Just shitty people who think their bigotry is "a different opinion" as they deny gay people service, the right to marry, the right to a family, the right to a living, and the right to not feel like a total outcast for something that IS NOT A CHOICE.
Peoples rights are a question and it is open for debate. However, the idea that we should somehow distribute the rights unequally based on race or what have you is what needs to go.
cholrus69 So then when framed in the context of specific human rights, where rights should apply equally to all people in a democracy. You agree with MrImagayguy, because you are basically mirroring what they said but disagreeing in a broader more vague sense.
But you're saying some rights are up for debate; but when talking in terms of democracy it goes without question that rights to protection from discrimination regarding hereditary traits are not a gray area where sometimes it's okay to discriminate.
sirdeadlock yup lol
and now he's our vice president
Mike Craig Trump Stewart 2020?
I think I ascadent deleted a commitment just whont you know if I did.
Pence is an asshole!
It hurts.
Not for much longer.
Hearing Republicans complain about something without using the word woke is so nostalgic
It’s their new scare word. 80s communism. 2000s terrorism. 2020s wokeism.
lol
@@peterbathum2775 You get what I'm saying right?
@@thevarietychannelofyoutube4769 yes. They love to have a word to show they hate the very idea of gaining knowledge and have no appreciation or interest in empathy or diversity .
@@peterbathum2775 Yeah, the right wing political pundits basically call literally everything they don't understand and everyone they don't want to bother feeling empathy towards "woke" now. They've gotten very cruel and brutal
Jon was a truth teller . And we need truth more now then anytime
yep, america: land of the free. as long as you live by their prescription.
society is already crumbling, while more and more freedoms are stripped from it's citizens.
and the freedom to be who we are, without governmental intrusion, is our birthright.
Jeremy Pooran that'd simply not true for many reasons. Freedom is based on liberty and that our laws that are vastly upheld by its citizens be enforced. When stupid people pass law that blatantly fuck to morality then they are violating freedom. They passed a law to deny gays yet gays are not ever requesting these "unique services" that people claim they do. A gay cake? Wtf
peacerebelgirl Like I have always said. Americans are free to do as they are told. Thinking is not an option.
most def
John Benton I'm snagging your phrase, hope you don't mind...
Christians practising Jesus' message of love and forgiveness. He would be so proud.
***** Leviticus 20:1313 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads"
Most likely he would be pissed they are not killing gays as he commanded. Anyone else thinking Jesus was just con man who got pissed when his boyfriend dumped him?
Hellsong89
A small-minded super-being with a bad temper. I gotta worship this dude! where can I sign up for this obviously awesome way to spend my 80 years on this planet?
***** Well that would be your local church, but i would not recommend it. Others what comes to mind would be in your local mosque what i would not also recommend, if you want just that super-being part, here i am! As act fast orderer you get little bit that bad temper as gift to your new proline personal God packet! Step right in to my lair! ;) lol
Hellsong89 Dude, I am a Christian, and while i might not agree with homosexuality, as a sinner, I have no right to judge another. There is only One who has the right to judge
Grant Gilcrease ... yeah its you local court system, right?.... Ou you were talking about "God"! Sorry my mistake... evidence for that "God" please?(for notice bible cant prove bible and no emotional responses thank you!)
Leslie Knope would not have let this happen
Alex Short imagine how the penguins would've felt
Problem is Marsha and Marshal 100% would....
100th like
"militant gay community " I'm gay and I laughed so hard
lightyears2go very much so I may have even coughed viciously
Militant. That means your a militia, right? BAM!! Covered by the 2nd amendment!!
I'm a Christian, and I can see that this law is absolutely ridiculous.
***** It isn't like he wrote the scripture. I'm not Christian, but if he is and doesn't want to persecute the LGBTQ community, is that a bad thing.
***** Dude I'm not a christian, but stop being a freaking idiot. You're being just a stupid as the Christians supporting this law.
***** Exactly! As Christians, we must do EVERYTHING the Bible says, no deviations whatsoever.
Divorce? What's that?
Looks like your just as judgmental and prejudice as they are.
That or you're just trying hard cuz it's the internet.
***** You'll have a hard time in life being this superficial in your analysis method. And I'm not getting any deeper into this, just trying to help you out. If it doesn't fit you (or at least if you think it doesn't) just toss it. Peace.
2:38 Mike Pence's description of Indiana residents is eerie similar to Donald Trump's claim that no one respects women more than he does.
Omar Alor Lol true.
I think he was right about the people of Indiana. He just should have added that he is a notable exception.
god, how I miss Jon Stewart! Trevor is nice, but This is Exactly a problem - he is NICE. There is NOT enough edge to the Daily Show today
You probably just aren't really watching the show.
Trevor Noah just has no backbone or presence when he’s speaking or even when he’s just sitting there. It’s more like you’re hearing someone recite their teleprompter simply cause they’re getting paid to rather than having anything genuine or intelligent to add to the discussion like Jon did.
i watch the Utube bits, which are supposed to be most attractive
Certainly !
Still nothing that can replace Jon
Yeah Trevor Noah didn’t come even close, completely lost interest
@@Pringlebox Stewart looked genuine and relaxed.. it didn't look forced
@@Pringlebox he's a tool
He’s coming back. He’ll have a new show on Apple TV+ called “the Problem with Jon Stewart” and it will be airing in September.
Subliminal Wolf Blitzer at 1:55
saw it, cnn john Stewart is looking for the plane.
editing mistake, or something more sinister?!
+Supdude Took me a few tries but its a CNN anchor shown with a display of a photo with a bunch of people protesting with two signs one reading "Stop enabling hatred" (in bubble text filled with various colors) and "(cant read first line) thy name is pence". The photo itself is titled in all caps, "RELIGIOUS RIGHTS SHOWDOWN"
Hope this helps.
+Supdude I am Jack's politically driven fart joke.
and it's still a wasted action hero name, curse you W.B.!!!
America land of the free!.......phe... pheAHAHAHAHAH! Sorry couldn't contain the laughter anymore!
***** Yes! Everyone that is against you is the enemy!
SoulRippster Land of the *fucked.*
SoulRippster Oh you're free all right. As long as you're a straight, white, rich, christian, male.
oh no look, it's more anti American bigotry!
SoulRippster It is home of the free: free money for the lazy, free to marry whoever you want, free to sue anyone for any reason (even if you are the criminal breaking into someone's house and suing the homeowner because you got hurt), free to practice your religion (with the stipulation that as long as it does not affect anyone else), free to own a firearm (for now), free to say what you want (so long as you do not offend anyone by saying it).
And this guy is Trump's running mate... it fits.
One could even say: Why don't they just marry each oter.
Pence would, he would just have to break it off with his gay hooker
Just look up their original logo
Donald Trump has pretty much pissed every minority in the country off except for the gays. Mike Pence has pissed off the gays. The go together like the words bomb and hydrogen, not exactly in that order.
Jon Stewart,
Can you please come back. we need you.
Sincerely,
The discerning public
Please...
Hey John, run for president would you, please?
that would be horrible.
Of course. He should be elected for World Leader!
Isn't having a tv show host running for office what got us here in the first place
@@turquoisesnowflake4613 are you discriminating against tv show hosts now? They are people too
I always declare my sexual preference first before I do business anywhere.
I miss Jon. Daily Show was never the same after he left.
He’s coming back. He’ll have a new show on Apple TV+ called “the Problem with Jon Stewart” and it will be airing in September.
00:23 "You didn't realize Mike Pence would become Vice-president and you'd be crawling under Stephen Colbert's desk as your part-time occupation, did you Jon? lol
Freedom without liberty is hypocrisy.
They just don’t make political satire like this anymore
My favorite part was the "militant gays" line. That's as ridiculous as the phrase "gay agenda."
Richard Pseudonymous There is a gay agenda. It's like feminist agenda. There is a Christian agenda, and many other agenda's.
Everyone have their own agenda!
What gays want is privilege for their beliefs and views to be held
higher than religious beliefs.
No one is saying you should be able to deny service to gay people but to
reject certain customized messages written on cakes, T-shirts, other
stuff that support pro-gay agenda.
The same right that allows you to deny KKK cake should allow you to deny
gay wedding cake.
He makes comparisons as if making gay cake for conservative Christians
is same as slow-dancing with Hitler is to jews -well, what if it is the
same for them!
Aren't they allowed to feel about homosexuality any way they want or
actually feel?
No one is making Jews slow dance with Hitler but nazi sympathizer can
walk in to Jewish bakery and demand swastika as a sign on his cake. It's
his right to have that, no law against it.
What's the reasoning for the bakery owner to deny this man a legal cake?
None, other than his sense of feelings hurt. But this man didn't hurt
his feelings, him eating that cake won't hurt him, why should he not
make the cake then?
The reason is simple, it's custom requested, it's his right to refuse
any customer's request he is uncomfortable with when he is asked to make
it.
Not just on religious grounds, but of any grounds - like, if you support
one NFL team but someone want's you to make a cake with logo of rival
team you should be able to say no!
It sounds silly, it is silly, but the owner should have this right.
That's the whole point.
Is it good for business to deny gay cakes to people who are now going to
be marrying in mass?
Probably not just after recession and you don't want to come of as
homophob anyway, but if someone wants to do it, his right. Plenty more
will be happy to offer that cake.
Yes, sadly, even the nazi will probably find someone to make a cake for
him too.
That's how it is when you have freedom in the country.
*****
Why?
@@kekizeki2481 You’re a mouth breathing, knuckle dragger who uses your religion to lie about and oppress others. Then you turn around and claim you’re being oppressed by others because the checkout clerk said, “happy holidays” to you instead of, “merry Christmas.” You are absolutely pathetic.
Fire someone because they are gay is legal??? wtf !!!
Last I checked "freedom of Religion" was enshrined in the constitution. So under that bill if I own a store and 3 employees and one each says I need 5 breaks a day to pray because I'm Muslim, the other I cant work Friday night or Saturday because I'm Jewish and the Christian says I cant work Sunday because its my sabbath, I HAVE To accommodate them? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?
Now he's the VP-Elect. Nice going America.
On one hand, he makes extremely valid points, on the other, I'm a little disappointed that he didn't make note of this law already existing in several other states and being federal law. No one talking about this, on either side, seems to bring up precedent, yet if you read the law, it essentially leaves its effects entirely up to the courts and precedent. It does not explicitly allow any group to discriminate against any other, but it does have a clause that is ill-defined that could be interpreted that way by the courts. It states that the government may only hinder a person's religious freedom due to a "compelling government interest". This could be seen as meaning that any law is a "compelling government interest", or that only certain laws are "compelling government interest", or that no laws meet that standard. If anti-discrimination laws in Indiana, which from the sounds of things don't exist on this subject anyways, are deemed by the state's courts to not be a "compelling government interest", and denial of service is deemed to be important to one's religion, then the courts could rule against LGBT people. Until such a ruling, the law IS ambiguous and does not necessarily discriminate against anyone, like Indiana officials have been saying. Refusing to clarify the language however, is a clear sign of either being arrogant and refusing to listen to other people's concerns, or actually hoping for the courts to rule on it against LGBT people.
Miss you man!
Is not the same without you.
And now he's fucking Vice President. Great
He can't do anything thiugh, not until trump is out of office,
Was. They got voted out in after 2020.
militant gay ?????? buba stop inbreeding
My thoughts exactly.
***** I think that label applies to people like Dan Savage. The man acts like a bully who insults and belittles anyone and everyone who disagrees with him. He\s not a good poster child for the LGBT movement.
@*****
WHO SAID: militant gay ?????? buba stop inbreeding
Uhmm...
militant; > vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause: engaged in warfare; fighting.
LGBT POPULATION ; > vigorously active and aggressive, especially in support of a cause: engaged in warfare; fighting.
Carl Riener huckaby
There are nuts on both sides. Can we agree to that at least?
The man Jon holds up!!!
I WILL MISS JOHN.
Well this didn’t age..... any differently than one would expect.
I'd just as soon the shop be open about their bigotry. This would make it easier for me to refuse to go to their store. Plus, if I went to their store and didn't know they hated me I wouldn't know about the spit in my drink.
Yeah, let them discriminate. It only hurts them in the long run.
This bill was so bad, the DoC church, which is literally based in Indianapolis, decided to hold their yearly convention somewhere else that year. Even Christians wouldn't tolerate this nonsense.
Wait Mike Pence was in the news before Trump?
Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
Oh boy that's a long lost case
I live in Indiana and god we all hated Mike Pence, but now he’s in the White House.
Brandon Rodriguez six months from now, he’s going to be unemployed
Really was a shame this had to happen, I had the unfortunate expirence of touching that accursed bill as I was paging for the house in the week before it was passed. Really gives Indiana a bad name for a state that was really starting to improve, I'm ashamed to call myself a Hoosier right now, first time I've ever said that.
So can I deny to do business with a Christian because I'm atheist?
These hit different now
Militant gays, what?
"If you get fired for being gay."
it sounds so hilariously juvenile. xD
0:05
When I see intolerance, oppression, bigotry and hate cloaked in crosses, holiness, and religious freedom, I’m reminded of why I’m an atheist.
I can't stop watching 2:55 onwards. That voice Jon does is beautiful
if you've had premarital sex your not allowed to judge gay people
0hsnappl3s Right to hypocrisy is also cherished right. So, leave people be hypocritical if they so choose.
mike
No one is passing judgment on them by not wanting to conform with their ideas, no more than an atheist is if he is refusing to acknowledge Christmas or any other religious holiday. That just doesn't concern him and he has right to be excluded from it. He can deny to sell or to paint any religious figures or make religious messages on cakes or whatever it is his business.
In the same way religious people have the right to be excluded from carrying out anything that supports gay agenda or homosexuality in any way.
What gays want is privilege for their beliefs and views to be held
higher than religious beliefs.
No one is saying you should be able to deny service to gay people but to
reject certain customized messages written on cakes, T-shirts, other
stuff that support pro-gay agenda.
The same right that allows you to deny KKK cake should allow you to deny
gay wedding cake.
He makes comparisons as if making gay cake for conservative Christians
is same as slow-dancing with Hitler is to jews -well, what if it is the
same for them!
Aren't they allowed to feel about homosexuality any way they want or
actually feel?
No one is making Jews slow dance with Hitler but nazi sympathizer can
walk in to Jewish bakery and demand swastika as a sign on his cake. It's
his right to have that, no law against it.
What's the reasoning for the bakery owner to deny this man a legal cake?
None, other than his sense of feelings hurt. But this man didn't hurt
his feelings, him eating that cake won't hurt him, why should he not
make the cake then?
The reason is simple, it's custom requested, it's his right to refuse
any customer's request he is uncomfortable with when he is asked to make
it.
Not just on religious grounds, but of any grounds - like, if you support
one NFL team but someone want's you to make a cake with logo of rival
team you should be able to say no!
It sounds silly, it is silly, but the owner should have this right.
That's the whole point.
Is it good for business to deny gay cakes to people who are now going to
be marrying in mass?
Probably not just after recession and you don't want to come of as
homophobe anyway, but if someone wants to do it, his right. Plenty more
will be happy to offer that cake.
Yes, sadly, even the nazi will probably find someone to make a cake for
him too.
That's how it is when you have freedom in the country.
Keki Zeki the cake thing makes sense, but that's just one example. As someone who works in a restaurant I firmly believe in the right to deny service for just about anything, but simply being gay is not one. For example if you go to a bakery and ask for a gay wedding cake with two grooms, I can see that. Especially if the person in question is making a scene. On the other hand, if a reasonable, albeit flamboyant, openly gay person asked for a birthday cake with a race car or something "normal" and was denied due to their appearance/sexuality, i'd have to say that's not okay. Also yes, some gays want special privilege in the same way that some "feminists" want privilege, just disguised as equality, but there are real gripes out there. A lot of them actually
mike
Yeah well, the issue is not an obvious gay person asking for non-gay cake but they keep representing it as it were.
It's not about the cake, it's about the message :)
It shouldn't even be an issue: you can reject gay cakes but also expect some people to avoid your bakery, so it's very damaging in the long run if you do that.
Bigger issue is if gays can be fired for being gays, because that's really sensitive issue, on the one hand everyone have a right to work an not be discriminated against, but imagine gay employe whose boss says he must reject making gay cakes?
Of-course, things get awkward when the employer realises he hired a gay guy LOL
But that is exactly the issue. Just like you can't refuse service based on race alone, you shouldn't be able to do it with regards to sexuality. That is exactly the argument. In many ways asking a conservative wedding cake company to make a gay wedding cake is like asking mcdonalds to make a whopper. They just don't do it, that's their image. I still think that's messed up but you're right, that's the downside of democracy, people can choose, even if its the wrong decision. With regards to employment, it's not just about companies who's image directly opposes the gay lifestyle. Businesses can fire/refuse to hire sole based on sexuality even if sexuality isn't central to a company's image the way it is with our theoretical bakery. If the company is publicly opposed to the gay lifestyle, then gay people would naturally avoid employment there, however, even if they did they should have another reason for terminating their employment other then their sexuality (for example their refusal to comply to company policy i.e. refusing to refuse making a gay wedding cake)
So the blip at 1:55 after "without angie's list" is just the previous "religious rights showdown" still of the cnn news coverage. In case anyone was wondering.
Ahh, it is great to be an Atheist.
Couldn't agree more
+javalin597 If only that were true. We can be fired from our jobs and denied public office, and god knows what other shit I'm too depressed to look up right now. bc there's nothing scarier than a person whose decency hinges upon the human desire to be good and just without needing mortal fear to do so.
+javalin597 Oh shut up. Stop being so condescending.
+Aveline De Grandpré Is the truth condescending?
Cat Party True that, I stand corrected
"And they will call Good - Evil and Evil- Good"
Oh that guy at the start seems familiar
That did resonate way too hot.
I miss when he was called "Indiana Governor".....
I knew there was a Furry joke coming just from the thumbnail. Was not disappointed.
how does religious freedom trump civil rights? basically, I agree with freedom of religion, but I would draw the line if it conflicts with the safety, happiness, and the basic human rights of another person. common fucking sense.
That one frame of Wolf Blitzer though 1:55
0:08
Look at this lovely picture. All those people from different religions and denominations, peacefully, side by side, working hand in hand... united by their common hate and biggotry! Because what are small theological differences, when we all have a common enemy to battle: Love... well, love between two people of the same gender, because that's clearly something we need to stop!
The Ohio governor did something similar, said doctors don't have to treat gay people if it's against his or her religion. I asked him if I was an Atheist Doctor, would I be able to deny care based on my beliefs, too? 'Cause then I could refuse to treat Christians.
Go ahead, you'd be broke..lol
Another great clip! I completely agree and thought it was hilarious
"Except Philly. That's the worst." LMAO.
If a guy doesn't want to serve someone, he shouldn't be forced to. It should be we who'll teach him a lesson by not going to his business.
I don't know what I am. I think that most of the disputes we have in this country are about competing rights. The question becomes whose right trumps a competing right.
In this case, and in my humble opinion, the right of the baker not to be forced to violate his religious beliefs trumps the right of the gay guy to get a cake. There are other bakers and there is internet. The gay guy has the option of going elsewhere. The baker does not have the option of changing his faith.
But that's in this case. To me it's a case by case analysis for the most part. Or should be anyway.
AtheistRex TRIPLE KILL!!!!!!!!1
so lets see some of the discriminations , I guess agenst people who oppose them, they did not have the power to deny people a cake
now the homosexual community
they were driven to suicide by christians, then were continued to be taunted,
they were basically torcured to make them "normal" by the pray the gay away places
it is obvious YOU are the ones being discriminated against
I don't think the baker did anything wrong. You don't want the customer? That's your choice as a business owner. And the rest of the country should not get up in arms about it either. It's silly, and does not concern them. Now, if this were an issue that were prevalent enough to where it was difficult to acquire something as simple as cake, that'd be another matter. What bothers me is the vilification of both sides. It doesn't help when they both do terrible things. They basically only prove each other right. I just go about my business treating everyone as equals, because I believe that's the way to screw over the fewest amount of people. And honestly, it's so much less stressful.
Bel-Shamharoth By the way, I did not mean to say the public overstepped their bounds by denouncing the baker. They were within their rights too. It's the forcing people to do things they don't want to do part that's the problem. Even if it's for the sake of "progress", you are not really helping anything.
"Do you see how f*cked up that is?"
Unfortunately many people didn't understand how f*cked an of it was.
Jon was so mad that he nearly slipped and inverted two words in the buildup to the punchline, which I only point out because I never saw him do that, not ever, or at least I never noticed it...
Sign of things to come
And Trump says he's good for the gay community.
OverThinking I don't recall Trump directly saying anything bad about the gay community but the fact he chose this homophobic bigot as his VP probably says a lot.
Silvia's Reviews Trump's policies and past actions point to a disregard of gay rights. But yeah, mike pence is a fucking snake.
That ending joke was so beautiful.
being a neo nazi is a choce. being gay is not
No, being a Christian is a choice, being gay is not. That's much better
Hold on, are you equating Christians to Neo-Nazis?
No, he's doing the opposite
Bombom1300 Jon Stewart showed clips of someone comparing making a cake for a gay wedding to putting a swastika on a cake.
Quay Whitehurst
scientifically speaking they both are.
so glad the comedy central posts videos, remember when it denied me to watch all because i live north of the border
that's our VP baby
Let's seriously fucking hope not...
Man i thought this was bad at the time. Mike "hold my beer" Pence indeed.
We miss you, Mike Pence...
wait a second...
The man is back baby
On Mondays
what if you're a bi? LMAO
they would probably consider you gay and choose not to serve you.
Arry Ferrari in a lot of these peoples eyes, bisexuality isnt a thing
Bella Quicksilver so for a country to built off of civil rights and freedoms it doesn't recognize human rights?
You can go in, but only briefly
This is November 2016. I have a message:
RED FLAG!!!!
You know at this point it's less about debating whether we should game out the "One nation under God" part of the pledge of allegiance, and more about debating whether the "liberty and justice for all" part is valid.
No one should ever be forced by the state to make a cake, ever.
God, I miss Jon Stewart.
He’s coming back. He’ll have a new show on Apple TV+ called “the Problem with Jon Stewart” and it will be airing in September.
Oh wow! Mike pence! That’s crazy!
Yeah because Christianity is under fire in America
Wdym
This is more easy to follow and a lot more intellectually stimulating than any real news station out today. that is sad
Here's my thought, if a business wants to deny someone service that honestly is their right. But everyone also has the right to call them out on it and do everything they can to make sure that business fails, capitalism is funny like that
Any gov wants to preclude any form of civil disobedience when it comes to enforcing their laws or enacting them.
What was that 1 frame image?
***** Shut up fucking pervert.
***** Explain how being sexually aroused by deformed animal characters is not being a pervert.
***** So the fact that it exists proves is not perverted? I guess child molesters are not perverts because child porn exists.
***** Agree, so do furries.
***** Don't argue here, as much as I hate it, it's not gonna help you. Some people just won't listen to reason and you're talking to one of them.
Ahhhhh how on earth could mankind survive and exist till this day and age?
Lots of people have gone astray!
🇺🇸VOTE BERNIE SANDERS 2016⭐ AMERICAS NEXT PRESIDENTS.🇺🇸
Jon Stewart for president 2024.
and he’s now you’re vice president lord have mercy
I love that logic, "Well, we shouldn't "discriminate" towards the groups that were made to discriminate, if we're not going to discriminate against the gay people."
As a Christian, I absolutely despise seeing my religion misused and contorted to be so discriminatory.
Eyyy, look kids! It's our future VP!
I like Trevor, but I miss Jon...
Have you tried to watch Trevor's stand up special? The guy shouldn't be allowed to be anywhere near a mic
"Not asking you to make gay products"? Actually they kinda are...custom gay cakes would count as that in my book