The Correct Amount of Lightweight with Campagnolo Chorus 12.

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • As light weight as a road bike gets while remaining practical to use and reasonably priced. This bike is the perfect classic shape and design. The shape, the colours, its utility all respectful of the heritage, yet entirely modern. Rim brakes, mechanical shifting, skinny wheels still have their place for that pure cycling experience.
    Full Build:
    Ridley Helium X - Rim Brake Frame
    Campagnolo Chorus 12 Speed Groupset
    Campagnolo Shamal Ultra Wheels
    Continental GP5000 Tyres with Latex tubes.
    DEDA Stem and Bars
    Fizik Saddle and Bar tape
    ‪@CampagnoloSrl‬ #CampagnoloChorus ‪@ridley_bikes‬

КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @lawrencerobinson7601
    @lawrencerobinson7601 4 місяці тому +3

    I built a bike with a Chapter2 Tere frame (made in New Zealand) and Campag Record mechanical 12 speed rim brake group set. Absolutely fantastic build and riding bike. I found the ergonomics of the hoods/brakes/shifters perfect and the working of the derailleurs wonderful. I have two sets of wheels: HED and then DT Swiss rims and 240 hub for the rear and 350 hub for the front. The Ridley built here is quite similar. I highly recommend Campagnolo for anyone who will listen if they are interested in the mechanical group set. Great work on this build.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  4 місяці тому +1

      Yep. Campy has the best mechanical offer right now. Probably always had.

    • @eijiroinouye4115
      @eijiroinouye4115 3 місяці тому

      How is does EPS compare to Di2?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  3 місяці тому +1

      @@eijiroinouye4115 have a quick google of the price of an EPS battery

  • @kevinfrost1579
    @kevinfrost1579 Рік тому +4

    My perspective a good looking bike some echoes of premium steel from 70's, 80's, 90's such as the thin round seat stays and seat tube junction position, nice colour way. Campagnolo Chorus 12 speed mechanical including rim brakes, quality alloy climbing wheels, Deda cockpit. So for a 2022 bike, light weight with classic appearance and up to date drive train everything to like here. Skilfully done 👏 congratulations all round.

  • @jaimefabrizzio
    @jaimefabrizzio Рік тому +5

    I just upgraded my Celeste steel 2017 Bianchi Vigorelli with these same wheels, Groupset, Deda cockpit and seat post one year ago. What a coincidence! I Loved the review and your commentary about Campag (especially the coffee analogy) is spot on. The build on the bike in the video turned out awesome! I live in the San Francisco Bay Area at the foothills of the Santa Cruz mountains and yes, I can attest to this wheel set being excellent for hill/mountain climbing.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Jamie. I hope you love your bike.

  • @sleepdepredation
    @sleepdepredation Рік тому +2

    I've been riding a,Ridley Helium with campagnolo since 2014. In fact I'm still riding 3 Ridley's with Campagnolo.

  • @wm.b.bowman2634
    @wm.b.bowman2634 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent. I love my 12 speed chorus. Like your style…and explanations.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому

      Thank you.

  • @danielesavi1969
    @danielesavi1969 Рік тому +2

    Usually black bikes bore me, but this is just elegant.

  • @EstelonAgarwaen
    @EstelonAgarwaen 7 місяців тому +1

    if youre on disc brake and want some shamals youre in luck! The shamal carbon disc are the wheels i went for when i wanted carbon wheels. gotta love the spoke pattern.

  • @user-mc6ko9lz5j
    @user-mc6ko9lz5j 6 місяців тому

    I loved this video. Excellent bike cutting out all the marketing crap that some companies try to sell us

  • @victorrodriguez2806
    @victorrodriguez2806 Рік тому

    Great video!!!
    This is a lot of bike without being a lot of bike!!
    So modern so realistic, so easy to own. And the weight, 15.84 lbs. So many bikes could realistically be in this weight class.
    I'm guessing the coast to be around $7000 U.S. dollars. ( less if you find discounts and build it yourself).
    What makes this bike even better than what the industry is pushing ...... no electronics and no disc brakes.
    This is a true " pump the tires and go" bike. No charging batteries . No heavy fluid filled hoses and rotors that constantly make noise.
    As you stated great climbing wheels. You didn't mention the outstanding breaking performance the rider with be blessed with. When coming down the mountain you've just climbed using rim brakes with be just as confidence inspiring as any disc on the market today.
    Oh, and the details... so many your video would have been hours long. Maybe one day you could talk and give a comparison on cables, housings and liners.( I might be the only person who believes some brands are great while other suck)
    Thanks again for another great video.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @belizon
    @belizon Рік тому +1

    Never been sketchy on the descents and I've ridden 21km ones in France and Spain.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      Ah, but have you ridden 20% Cumbria descents?

  • @ruralblock
    @ruralblock 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the build and video, Paul. As always, great attention to detail.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому

      Such a smart bike. It’s like it’s wearing a designer suit.

  • @kevingaskin5084
    @kevingaskin5084 5 місяців тому

    What a beauty

  • @spardamustdie47
    @spardamustdie47 2 місяці тому

    Absolutely love the new Chorus 12 speed, the 3 clicks up shifting and downshifting is amazing, especially that signature Campagnolo downshift click sound. However, I couldn't get away with that chain-clap whenever I stop after high cadence pedalling. Is that common or should I do something about it?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like your Freehub is sticking

  • @robbo9229
    @robbo9229 3 місяці тому

    Wow! I’m amazed to see a full mechanical 12 speed rim
    brake bike. Is campag the only brand that makes 12 speed rim brake groupsets?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  3 місяці тому

      Shimano still make one.

    • @robbo9229
      @robbo9229 3 місяці тому

      @@Mapdec also mechanical? Or Di2?

  • @whichwayiszigzag
    @whichwayiszigzag Місяць тому

    I don't remember Ultra Torque cranks needing any special tools to remove, maybe you are thinking of Power Torque?

    • @boredmartymcfly6099
      @boredmartymcfly6099 29 днів тому

      The cranks don't need a special tool to remove, but the bearings on them do. I believe that's what he was referring to.

  • @thegoodwheel
    @thegoodwheel 2 роки тому

    Brilliant content and editing. "Once you see it, you can't unsee it". They did such a better job with Fulcrum Racing 1 and zeros.
    Keep up the great builds.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому

      Thank you Luis.

  • @dalekelly7314
    @dalekelly7314 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful build! In the process of upgrading my Seven titanium bike that has 2005 Campy stuff on it. Would you put a modern Campy 12 speed groupset like Chorus on it or go to Sram AXS instead? Trying to keep it going for another 10+ years. Can't make up my mind!

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      Tough one. If you like electronic shifts I would go SRAM. If your mechanical shift inclined, then Campy.

  • @MrHrodwolf
    @MrHrodwolf Рік тому +1

    Do I see a quick link on a Campag 12s? I thought Campag only offered pins and that their chains were narrower than other 12s designs so aftermarket chains like KMC and the like were too wide for proper function? Am I wrong?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      Yeah they work well and really convenient for chanin waxers. Well spotted.

    • @MrHrodwolf
      @MrHrodwolf Рік тому

      @@Mapdec I am currently prepping for building a bike and was hesitant to pull the trigger on the Campag 12s groupset just because of that (I like to ultrasonic clean my chain regularily). This might settle it for me! If a KMC or YBN 12s chain can work here I think I have things settled! Thanks!!

  • @hansschotterradler3772
    @hansschotterradler3772 Рік тому +5

    This is not supposed to weigh 7.2 kg with alloy rims and mid-range group set. 😂

  • @DoNuT_1985
    @DoNuT_1985 Рік тому +2

    It's a bit of a shame that Campag is more of a "boutique brand" in nowadays cycling world and that you don't any get of these on factory-built bikes, except the usual 10.000€ bikes with Super Record EPS, indeed. Chorus is actually a nice group set at a reasonable price. I only have an old 10-speed Chorus but it's a cool statement on a build and I like the thumb shifter including neat features like the sequential upshifts (specs say 3 cogs but my 2000s version does even more than that, which is cool when you come over a crest, starting to descent).

  • @Jedsonmcfarly
    @Jedsonmcfarly Рік тому

    Beautiful bike. Was it an old frame, resprayed?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      Not respray, but slightly used

  • @JDH-1888
    @JDH-1888 2 роки тому

    That’s a stunning bike , I’m in the process myself of building my own Ridley with Campagnolo Chorus , I’m just waiting for the groupset to arrive for the rebuild , my Ridley Helium SL is an ex Lotto Soudal team Bike , can I ask what is the maximum size tyre I would be able to use on her , would I possibly get away with a 28 mm tyre

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому

      That’s awesome. Yes a 28 will be fine.

    • @JDH-1888
      @JDH-1888 2 роки тому

      @@Mapdec brilliant , I’m trying to choose between pivot brakes and direct mount but trying to find out if the latter fits the frame is a nightmare

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому +1

      That’s quite simple. If your frame and fork just have one central mounting point you need single pivot. If you have mounting points on both sides you need the direct mount.

  • @gagmewithaspoon
    @gagmewithaspoon 10 місяців тому

    FYI… The G in Campagnolo is pronounced like the word: Gnocchi (pronounced /nyo-kee/ so Campagnolo is pronounced /kam-pan-yo-loh/ 😉

  • @Penalist
    @Penalist Рік тому

    Are Ridley frames / Was this Ridley frame at a level of quality that one would expect them/it to be?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому +1

      This one was very nice. 🙏

  • @andreasr6632
    @andreasr6632 5 місяців тому

    The Ultra torque split axle system could be made much simpler if they just chose more standard threading like M14 and secured the bolt with an counter threaded M8 bolt from the drive side with a spring washer. That way they would make sure the crank would never loosen up as it would need allens keys from both sides to come apart. They could also just put a NORD LOCK pair of safety washers but i guess all those solutions were not simple or proprietary 🤬🤬🤬 enough.
    Then the bearings could be regular 6805 25x37x7mm and there would be no need for added safeties on the bearing cup and the axle.
    It is as if they purposefully designed those defects in their system just to create wear and sell parts.
    Also at such price not including an Interlock threadfit BB86/92 bottom bracket like the ones made by CEMA , WILLIERS, Contek etc is a disgrace.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  5 місяців тому

      I know right. It’s like campy just like making reasons not to buy.

  • @deanwang8044
    @deanwang8044 Рік тому

    Does anyone know if campagnolo 12s can use shimano cassette and chains?

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      I haven’t tried it to give a definite answer, let’s see if anyone has.

    • @ShawnStradamus520
      @ShawnStradamus520 3 місяці тому

      Yes. All 12 speed cassettes have the same spacing and are interchangeable, which hasn’t been the case since 9 speed.

  • @2wheelsbest
    @2wheelsbest Рік тому

    As beautiful as Campag is, I'm in the process of moving my bikes over to Shimano. Campag's insane decisions that make their groupsets incompatible, just to satisfy their chin-stroking engineers (and for commercial reasons... the HO chainrings aren't backwards compatible with non-HO cranks, for no other reason than wanting you to replace your crankset to 'benefit' from the 2mm difference in chainline), plus releasing then pulling products off the market with not much notice, then not carrying spares so you have to swap out groupsets, has cost me more money than I care to even think about, and they won't get a penny more. On the point of the valve placement, it's not about hiding the valve, it's about ensuring the wheel is properly balanced.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому

      They don’t put the valve in the same place on the other 3 spoke design wheels. You are right about them pulling product ranges without notice. Very annoying. Veloce disappeared overnight.

  • @einundsiebenziger5488
    @einundsiebenziger5488 Рік тому +4

    Campagnolo is pronounced "Come-pun-yolo"! "GN" in Italian works like "NY" in English.

  • @valiantabello
    @valiantabello 2 роки тому

    Beautiful bike but those wheels are a very odd choice

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  2 роки тому

      They are a little niche for sure.

    • @11robotics
      @11robotics Рік тому +5

      Why exactly are they an odd choice? They are the best aluminium wheels from Campagnolo and on par with their counterparts from Mavic, DT Swiss or Fulcrum (which is still Campagnolo, though). They are also lighter and cheaper than a lot of carbon wheelsets, not to mention they brake better and more consistently than any carbon wheelset. They are also extremely reliable and bombproof, especially compared to some Chinese-sourced alternatives such as Hunt, Prime or whatnot. Last, but not least, the G3 spoke pattern allows for a more consistent spoke tension between the NDS and DS spokes.
      They are a no brainer choice if you ask me, especially given the groupset. Had it been a Shimano or SRAM equipped bike, perhaps the Mavic or DT Swiss or Fulcrum wheels would have been a more "politically correct" alternative.
      I am a happy Campagnolo Zonda user for a few years now (done over 15.000 km and nearly 200.000 m of climbing and descending with them). The hubs are as smooth as they were on day 1, and the rims are barely worn (you can still feel the original fine grooves on the rim surface). When they eventually go bust (probably some 15.000-20.000 km later, if not more), I will almost surely replace them with a pair of aluminium Shamal (probably Mille for those nice black anodised rim braking surfaces) wheels just so I can shave 100 g off them.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому +1

      You are correct in all of that, but for where we live, these are very prone to corrosion and are very flexy on steep steep hills.

    • @11robotics
      @11robotics Рік тому +1

      @@Mapdec flexy compared to what other wheels? People who have used both Zondas and Shamals say that Shamals are significantly more rigid than Zondas (mainly due to their spokes), yet I don't find my Zondas flexy at all (and I'm no stranger to 12+% climbs, including La Planche des Belles Filles).
      Corrosion could indeed be a reason to buy carbon wheels, I give you that, but don't forget most of them have metal (steel/aluminium/brass) spokes and nipples anyway, so corrosion still is an issue. I am lucky to live far enough from the seaside and from chronically bad weather.

    • @Mapdec
      @Mapdec  Рік тому +1

      The Fulcrum Racing zero are better and stiffer for the money. Could have gone handbuilt DT 411 too. We are in the English Lake District 😃. Don’t sweat it dude.