Veteran Sherman Ver1 rim swap, hanger swap, tire change
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Decided to open the Sherman and see if i could update to the newer rim and hangers. While I was at it, I mounted a pirelli angel scooter tire. Test ride and opinion to come...
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I enjoyed watching someone else take apart the Sherman. Good video Shane 👍
Thanks. Its definitely more fun to watch than to do.
Yours was good too.
This one was really good, Shane. Thank you
Very nice and informative on the Sherman's how-to... they say that this Pirelli is a great street tire for EUC's.
I like how mine handles. Check back for a longer ride/review otw.. Thanks for watching.
Arrow is in right possition, but you need to mount tire backwards. Thats because your tire is front bike tire. Front tires is always mounted in reverse position, to reduce vibrations/wobblings. So for the bike arrow is correct, but we need a traction wheel, so it should be mounted as rear bike wheel - backwards
I'd imagine the direction could be argued for many many years. Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much for documenting this so well!
It'll help a lot when I'll swap to a street tire also.
I'm looking forward to your impressions once you get the chance to play with tire pressure 👍
Happy to help. Im finding 20psi to be my sweet spot so far. Im 130lbs and rode at 20psi on the ohter tire as well. The Angel seems it wouldnt mind going even lower. I ran 15psi, but it started to take more input and 20 felt right. Keep checking back, I hope to do a video ride with my uneducated opinion, soon.
This video was not boring and i learned a thing or two. Thanks for posting it!
Excellent. Hard combo, NOT boring but informative. Thanks for watching!
when that motor sucked into that rim, it made me shiver DAM!!!. Crazy skills disassembling the wheel and then putting it all back together!!! like that 👍will be my go-to reference if I ever need to do the same. cheers.
Yes, it is dangerous. Sharp edges and it doesnt care if you are tough or not. Thank you for the kind words. I was an automotive tech for quite some time. I like to think I was decent enough at it. Same stuff smaller package. Be careful!
@@shanesplanetshane3795 yeah that was insane Shane. Do they warn you about this???
Dude my instinct would've been to put my thumb over the top to gain better control. And LOSE both my thumbs apparently.
@@arcrides6841 They, who? Nah man, this was the first time I'd messed with it. Not much support for working on these. I dont think any how to's were out about the rim/motor yet either. Turn wrenches long enough, you either lose fingers or learn to recognize how not to. I dunno if the motor would lop a finger off or not. I'd go from the bottom tho, so you can see the alignment. No need to lower it by the wires and hope you get it straight. Don't want the weight/stress on the wires anyhow, specially when the rim becomes part of it. Id imagine if you align it badly enough, it could chip a magnet or loosen one as it's snatched into the magnetic field.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 They the suppliers. The ones who sent you that death trap.
@@arcrides6841 Nah, but e-wheels DID mention about which side the wires and magnet offset goes. If you pay attention tho, you'd notice it anyhow.
"I'll just start making a mess and tearing shit apart" - my approach to most things.
my typical approach when working on things new to me. Failure is NOT an option... Thanks for watching.
The reason for the front tire to roll in reverse,believe it or not but you will get 4 times the live out of a tire..
In the agriculture business you see it all the time, rolling tires backwards and drive tires forward to self clean
interesting, and I don't doubt that it has something to do with wear characteristic. I read something about that and cyclic vibration caused on 2wd vehicles, if treaded same direction. I'm not sure how yours scenario applies to single wheel pavement vehicles, but tis good to know. Perhaps the direction pirelli claims is 'forwards' is actually backwards and they marked it for this very reason? Thanks!
Damn that’s a lot of freaking work!! I hope I never catch a flat.
It wouldnt be quite as much for a simple flat. Still a lot more than I'd want to do regularly. Especially since feeding cables and mucking with the motherboard is always a risk. Thanks for watching!
Excellent. Tape your wedding band next time. Pink hockey tape does the trick :)
Oddly, I've only arc welded my ring once in over a couple decades of technician work. Worst incident was actually when it caught on a door at the stealership I worked in. Thanks for the concern!
GREAT VIDEO, NICE TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD. THANKS
Glad you enjoyed it
hey bro ... where can I go to learn about Chargers for these ... ? quick chargers ... normal chargers.. brands ... ect ...
great post by the way thanks for this ..
Lots of info to be found at euc.org, youll just have to dig a little bit. I just use the e-wheels branded for all of mine. Im sure there's others of similar under different names. Just be sure to buy from a place you trust. Charging and battery care is VERY important. Thanks for watching!
Mate I am literally crying with laughter this end. 'Lets just bubblefuck our way through this on the floor, start makin' a mess and tear this shit apart'
I was wincing like fuck when you were removing the pedal nuts. The squeaking had me on the edge of my seat. More comedy gold quotes:
'Shit! Yeah dont getcha fuckin' fingers in there boy' when fitting the motor core'.
'I just lost all the pedal increase height I fuckin' gained'
'This maaay fuckin' work. Fingers crossed'.
'So I'm going to take this out, and it's very late, and very dark, and it's been rainin', so I couldn't think of a safer time to go give this the final test ride'.
Fucken brilliant mate! And a great educational vid on stripping the Sherman. First class on all counts.
I've got an 80/90 Michelin Pilot which may give a little more compliance on my incoming Sherman than your 80/80. I might try it out.
Glad you enjoyed. Yeah, I picked up some odd language working in a shop for too damn long!
lmao I had no idea you were the same guy on facebook till I read your 20psi sweet spot comment
My FB account rotates a lot. They lock me out, I make new, shit happens. Im also the same guy on euc.org
This video is funny as hell keep it up!
thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Motorcycles also use a directional tire for braking. No difference with unicycle
Just a few slight differences. Unicycles don't suffer from weight shift in the same fashion as a motorcycle. There's also no trailing tire on a unicycle, which changes water patterns. Unicycles dont track quite the same as a steer nor a drive tire on a motorcycle.
Great video mate appreciated ... I Need rim upgrade so this video is very helpfull.
Why such high tire pressure ? 45 is a lot is it not ?
I use high pressure to fully seat the tire bead to the rim. I ride my Sherman at 20psi. Thanks for watching!
19:50 love the eyebrows bro😆
haha, thanks!
Thanks for explaining the tire direction Shane. Think I'll do same for mine on s18.
No problem. I am not brighter than the folks at Pirelli by ANY means. Its entirely possible that I am wrong in my conclusion. Thanks for watching!
Hi Shane!
Great video, thank you for that!
Iam a new Sherman owner and i had an accident 3 days ago and i broke my rim. So since you were switching your old Rim I wonder if you still have old one to sell?
Thanks!
I still have my 'old' one, but I think I need keep as a spare for if mine ever cracks. Sorry to hear about the crash, but I suspect my turn is coming soon as well. Thanks for watching!
Can you please provide an update on installing the tire backwards? How was it? Do you feel your assessment was correct?
I really enjoyed how solid the tire would ride. It allowed me to keep lower pressure to mitigate bounce. The knobby was fun too, but the Scooter tire felt more applicable for street. I never did get it to hydroplane, but I also never turned it around to compare. I honestly can't say that I have a definitive answer to the differences when mounted on an euc I've ridden on my roads. I dont own the Sherm any longer. I did keep a couple others, but chasing the speed demons ended, before I destroyed it. I still ride, but Im also flying a bit. Thanks for watching!
@@shanesplanetshane3795 Thanks, Shane! I will give it a try backward and maybe provide some feedback down the road because I have also ridden the tire forward.
Subbed. Thank you!
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
What's the update of your Sherman now? I meant, how's the tire working out for you?? What is the name and size of that tire again??
80/80/14 Pirelli Angel. Works as good or better now than when new. I've finally scrubbed the outter layer down and have gotten to the good stuf. Very little wear, so I imagine this tire will last me a LOT longer than that dirt tire. I havent noticed my street tire being inadequate for gravel or other mild surface issues. Still running 20-22psi.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 Thanks so much Shane! Your videos are awesome!
@@shanesplanetshane3795 Hey, man! Just watched an EXN vid where someone said to use a 80/90-14 tire because "clearance is the same as on the Sherman."
Do you feel that tire size could've also worked here?
I'm curious if a Sherman Max can take this Pirelli...that might be a sweet combo!!
@@MadLadsAnonymous Its entirely possible. The diff between an 80 and 90 is a mere 8mm. One would have to try it first hand, to be absolutely sure. I personally can't say either way.
You are awesome, nice work!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
What did you put around the rim at 14:57
3m weatherstrip adhesive. Its merely there to prevent water ingress. I find it easier to split apart than rtv, but anything laying around that is similar, would do the same thing.
I cringe each time i see that cheap screw driver😜. It's just waiting to slip and round the philips or worse go into MoBo 😥
Great teardown regardless and think it helped a friend that turned cables wrong and got warning eHall... Cables to the right, cables to the right...i feel the anxiety popping it in, in wrong direction 😉
I started with a Snap-on brand screwdriver. THEN I moved to a craftsman. Eventually it was the cheapie that got it. I also had to grab with the vice-grips on one of the screws to get it broken loose. Yup, not a fun endeavor. Thanks for watching...
What did you use when putting the motor cover back on, RTV? Use any blue loctite on motor cover screws? I will be tackling this shitty job sooner or later.
Pretty sure I used 3m weatherstrip adheisive. Im sure rtv would also work. Its mostly just to keep water/dust out. I went with VERY little and weatherstrip, as I've had rtv clog an oil pump before and I've been nervous ever since. Im sure RTV is fine, just be gentle with it. I used medium strength thread locker and torqued in criss cross pattern. My guess is somewhere around 20ftlbs. TIght, but chinese screw tight. Watch your fingers or youll lose one when the motor sucks into the magnetic field.
What size of key do you use to unscrew the nut from axel?
7/32" filed down and hammered in. NONE of my metric or standard would fit (top notch quality for sure haha) Mine were so tight and tapped holes were so bad, I had to keep digging thru allens to find one that would take the leverage I was applying. Maybe they were supposed to be 5.5mm? Idk.
@5:33 RTB? IT PULLS? Care to explain, jag no idea pulling the plug could sort the driver and how can you pull a 3.5mm out "the wrong way"?
"while powered", would be considered the wrong way. The nature of a trs plug means the plug will bridge connections as you plug it in or unplug it. MOST electronics are designed so the 'bridged' connection, doesnt cause a short that can destroy electronics. I read reports that the trs on the sherm, was NOT wired correctly, and pulling the plug while powered, can result in damage. Its a stupid and elementary design flaw, if its true. I havent bothered to check the wiring for validity on the Sherman plug wiring. *RTV Room temperature vulcanizing compound.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 Oh now I get it, thanks. Did You modify something to mitigate the risk or You just make sure to power off before pulling / inserting..... or even disconnect batteries?
@@bigbadboogie6842 I simply glued (rtv) mine in so it couldnt vibrate loose, or someone accidently uplugs while fiddling. Powering the wheel off prior to disconnect is all that is required.
Hi thanks for the video, Im due to get the master soon, been thinking about this tire instead of the Michelin city pro, how does the tire ride?
It rides more solid and smoother on the sherm than my original. Its more of a motorycycle tire feel, rather than a thin bicycle tire. I've had no problems from mine and its wearing very slowly. Just be prepared for it to be a little more sensitive to turn in. I could see if a newbie tried one, it would end in a little more wobbles, untli they figured it out.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 many thanks for this, honestly the fact we share information like this makes riding far better and more importantly safer. Once again thanks.
@@frederickoparah1669 Fwiw, Michelin makes damn good tires too. I honestly can't make any claims about comparisons, other than acknowledging quality manufacturers , over the crap manufacturers, based on previous use. I've always preferred Pirelli on my sport bikes, but I trust Michelin as well. Atm, my Supermoto is wearing michelins. I suspect that you cant go wrong either way. I mean hell, does anyone REALLY thnik Kenda is even close? haha
can you share the STL for the purple stand you designed?
All my stands are purple. The one I used for the sherman is a simple adaptation/resize of a design you can find on Thingiverse. Its not a very good one for the sherm tho, as its a pain to center it up when storing. It also cost near a KG in materials on conservative settings. Thanks for watching!
Subbbed, great info for reference, no nonsense. Cheers
Good to hear and thanks! Hopefully it helps someone else who has a floor as a workbench!
Is the tire heavier than knobby tire ?
I really can't be sure. My gut instinct tells me that YES, it is. I think its more plies too. HOwever, I never had my Stock off the v1 rim, so I have no definitive weights to go by.
looks like it has a little wobble hope it won't be a problem at high speed
it runs pretty true on the road. I am however a little shaky, some days worse than others. Thanks for watching!
@@shanesplanetshane3795 I know it can be a hassle, but you should try and reseat it, let out the air, break the tire lock from the rim and rotate it a bit and then reinflate it, should be better, that is if the rim has no dent in it. I used to work in a tire shop and that was one way of fixing wobbles..
@@django1364 It runs true, no need. The solution to me being shaky is for ME to ride more. You do realize I made a video, showing what you are telling me. . .
@@shanesplanetshane3795 OK I didn't see it, thanks
No worries. Tis good advice. Hopefully I wont need repair any flats or open any for a while. All's left to do is get better at riding.
No fuss no muss. Nice!!!👍
Thanks, glad you liked it.
You also lost some top speed if outer diameter/circumference changed for smaller (or maybe it will just get closer to max rpm) and motor controller is (maybe) made for a specific rolling circumference, so might not behave like before (who knows maybe better).
That occured to me. I do think the 10mm difference will be less than that, as the tire doesnt sag as much now. I also dont think the sherm is 'speed' limited, more like power limited. If thats the case, highest speeds shouldnt be effected much.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 i think its rpm limited due to hall sensors (like most other wheels). Thats why you have an unloaded free spin limit around 100km/h, it's a very low power draw to spin the rim+tyre to 100km/h compared to propell 90+Kg driver to 70km/h with both friction, mass and air resistance.
But if its 10mm on diameter its pretty easy to calculate. And easy to conpensate for speed and distance in euc world :-) 10mm diameter difference should pan out to about 2% error on speed and distance if outer diameter is 18".
So likely no loss in top speed, just closer to max rpm by a bit :-) basically the difference between running a knobby that is finished and a new one.
@@bigbadboogie6842 Free spin is defnitiely limited. I think loaded top speed is limited by other factors BEFORE free spin top speed is achieved. Your math is right, but you also have to account for the LOADED rolling distance per revolution. It does seem the off road has more sidewall defelction at given pressure and weight. This could easily mitigate the height differences. Im not overly concerned about the precise math, as I am aware of too many variables, and theres many others Im unaware of. ROlling resistance between the tow tires, could skew our well thought out math as well. At any rate, Im not trying to sqeeze a mph or two on the top end. I coudl prbably offset all the math by simply inflating the street tire. It DOES take off like a rocket at 35psi, MUCH more than the knobby would. Thanks for the response, good info in there!
is it ok to use tubeless tire on sherman rims without tube ?
I have no idea if the rim has the integrity to keep a perfect bead sealed on a tubeless tire. You'd need install a valve stem at the least. Im not going to make assumptions either way, as Im having no problems from my tube/tire and aint about to risk it. Thanks for watching.
@@shanesplanetshane3795 how long have you been using tubeless? And what pressure
@@shanesplanetshane3795 And are tubeless tires okay if we keep using tubes?
@@superdhetz I've been using tubes since the day I got it. I changed tire a few hundred miles ago. Running a tubeless tire with a tube, is no big deal and common. They been doing that in lawnmowers for decades, same with motorcycles. Tubeless tires tend to be made heavier and more stiff, but thats not a given.
NO FREAKING WAY WILL I BE EVER DOING THIS MYSELF. I WOULD HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE ON FACEBOOK WHO HAS EXPERIENCE WITH DOING THIS AND I WILL PAY THEM $150.00
Sounds like a deal. Drop it off to me and I'll have it ready within 2 days to pick up! Its not the worst job, but it would be easy enough to damage something or hurt yourself. Just try and be nice to the Sherm is all!
What state do you live in?
@@DreiSkins101 NW edge of NC, near the Tennesee line. My videos state my location as Hot Springs, NC.
Imagine a tire change video that doesn’t show how to remove the tire🤦🏽♂️
The new rim came with NO tire on it. I never did remove the old one. Never mentioned 'tire removal' in the video info, either. Sold the wheel and gave the new owner the old rim with the knobby tire still mounted. *Imagine someone complaining about a FREE video on a channel that doesnt monetize a single moment of information. It happens. Thanks for watching.
why do you sound like matthew mcconaughey
Good question. I didnt edit the audio but for levels. It seems my Nikon must have the "Matthew stereo speaker experience" package installed. MUCH better than the Fran Drescher mod imho. Thanks for watching!