I Went to KOREA to Find Out What Happened to LOONA (ft. Odd Eye Circle)​⁠

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • So I've been gone for... well a long time. BUT that was for a good reason. The reason? I Went To Korea Just To Find Out What Happened To LOONA. And well, let's just say I found out a lot in person. From LOONA to ARTMS to Odd Eye Circle and beyond. This is the new chapter of the story of LOONA.
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    Time Stamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:43 The Birth of LOONA
    2:03 The Making Behind LOONA That You Might Not Know
    4:57 STAN LOONA: The Cult
    5:54 The Insane Rise and Even More Insane Fall of LOONA
    12:54 LOONA From the Moon and Beyond to ARTMS
    17:49 ARTMS & Odd Eye Circle: What’s Beyond the Moon?
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  • @laup1235
    @laup1235 10 місяців тому +184

    very disappointed that loossemble hasn’t also been highlighted as a loona successor project but more of a 'they signed with another company'

    • @retricallltann6243
      @retricallltann6243 10 місяців тому +18

      i mean loossemble literally means loona assemble ctd wants loona to be back as 12 while modhaus has kind of continued where jaden left off with the loona project by restarting it as a whole with artms while still keeping hopes for ot12 after artms has completed starting off their journey again

    • @Mymymy23
      @Mymymy23 10 місяців тому +19

      Disagree, loossemble means loona assemble, in their description they said they were searching for their other friends (aka the rest of ot12) and they have 12 dots as a logo. They also used orbit for their fan event. If anything they are marketing them as an incomplete version of loona which is a bit unfortunate. The difference is that they won’t continue loona og sound or storyline since that was Jaden and Monotree creation

    • @retricallltann6243
      @retricallltann6243 10 місяців тому +8

      @@Mymymy23artms is only called that because modhaus is being cautious of using the loona name

    • @Mymymy23
      @Mymymy23 10 місяців тому +6

      @@retricallltann6243 I believe his initial plan was to use artms only as the name of the project to relaunch the whole group under modhaus but once the plan fell through he decided to use it for the 5 members under his company. If majority of the members would have signed they would have probably found a way to use loona but it wouldn’t be fair to use it only for ot5 (just like ctd applied for the orbit copyright but decided to leave it for ot12 and chose a different fandom name for loossemble)

    • @retricallltann6243
      @retricallltann6243 10 місяців тому +4

      @@Mymymy23yeah after all jj seems to want to reunite ot12 again

  • @adeleb6168
    @adeleb6168 10 місяців тому +63

    if you wanted to make a vid about artms just title it that u did barely any research about what happened to loona outside of artms.. cause loossemble is also def worth mentioning as a “new beginning” to loona + u didn’t even mention yves or research what she’s doing at all??

  • @yvestigator
    @yvestigator 10 місяців тому +126

    i went to KOREA just to find out what happened to jaden jeong

    • @kuyab9122
      @kuyab9122 10 місяців тому +8

      Out of all the witty comments here, I love this the most lol. Thank you.

  • @haewonized
    @haewonized 10 місяців тому +45

    this timeline is kinda messy…
    chuu was kicked, this is what started the boycott, and in December the other members (-vivi and Hyunjin for some more time) tried to file lawsuits and stuff to leave bbc, and they announced the cb, then oec and Heejin were free, they signed with modhaus, everyone else was stuck at bbc, and eventually the rest of them were freed

  • @marj4330
    @marj4330 10 місяців тому +130

    "what happened to loona" but no mention of loossemble, yves, or chuu 🙄

    • @TelevisionMBS
      @TelevisionMBS 3 місяці тому +4

      OR ARTMS!

    • @cjc363636
      @cjc363636 2 місяці тому +4

      I'm wondering if some uh, 'agreement' with Modhaus was made to not mention the non-Artmis 12 for cooperation in the making of this essay.

    • @luk_.armxndii
      @luk_.armxndii Місяць тому +1

      They need permission to do stuff like this since they are pn a contract

    • @mesCheerios
      @mesCheerios 21 день тому

      ??? they were mentioned

    • @edelweiss_eru
      @edelweiss_eru 13 днів тому

      future person here, loossemble didn’t even debut until a month after this video was released, chuu had been doing her own thing, and yves made her solo debut this year-

  • @auroraisland6477
    @auroraisland6477 10 місяців тому +59

    Hey everyone 5 of the other loona members are touring the US next month as 'Loossemble'! kinda weird how that didn't make it into this video😅

  • @alinsofan501
    @alinsofan501 10 місяців тому +72

    2 different groups, 4 different agencies (most probably) later but we are still going strong , nothing can stop them and tripleS. fighting girls! also glad you met h1-key . yel is amazing and hwiseo is the new queen of puzzles.

  • @Realunmaker
    @Realunmaker 10 місяців тому +24

    0:26 what you mean is artms, loosemble, chuu and Ibu.

  • @viceroy2672
    @viceroy2672 10 місяців тому +194

    You know you've lost the plot when you have to take a moment in your
    "What Happened to Loona" video to say "alright let's get back to Loona". Because you spent more time talking about Triple S and Jaden than Yves and Loossemble.

    • @toastpavedtheway
      @toastpavedtheway 10 місяців тому +3

      frrr

    • @ONLY1JAYJAY
      @ONLY1JAYJAY 10 місяців тому +18

      I was really disappointed when he didn’t mention Loosemble. They are also having their debut in less then a month

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому +2

      @@jaenzz- buddy…loossemble didn’t even debut at the time, and why would he talk abt yves when we haven’t gotten any solo content from her

    • @vflnzx
      @vflnzx 6 місяців тому

      @@RoyaleMusicalthis was 3 months ago 😭

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому +2

      @@vflnzx ik and three months ago they didn’t promote or debut 🤦‍♂️

  • @Miraiana
    @Miraiana 10 місяців тому +84

    Actually, about the whole "budget" thing, Jaden himself admitted in an interview, after he left Trashberry, that they inflated the number for marketing purposes, and that their budget was actually much lower. They started with a lot of money, but as Loona 1/3 wasn't as popular as they expected, and didn't sell as many albums, they reduced the buget for OEC, actually, Eclipse is probably the cheapest MV they made. Plus, Trashberyy had to borrow money from various investors to continue the project, hence the bankruptcy news that were popular a few years ago (like the DONUT case and such).

    • @quinevere
      @quinevere 10 місяців тому +7

      thank you for mentioning this. i feel like most orbits know since 2021-ish that the 9 mil number is inflated.

  • @lollmao6621
    @lollmao6621 10 місяців тому +54

    Just ARTMS huh? Not also Loossemble....?

  • @s3k1m
    @s3k1m 10 місяців тому +119

    NO MENTION OF LOOSSEMBLE???

    • @wefiftyfifty
      @wefiftyfifty 10 місяців тому +21

      LITERALLYYYY like the solo stanning issue is rlly bad now cuz all the “popular” members are either in atrp or artms 😢😢😢

    • @isabelamartins3915
      @isabelamartins3915 10 місяців тому +30

      He doesn't care about them, he's a jaden jeong fan not a loona fan

    • @Orbitmum
      @Orbitmum 10 місяців тому +2

      Surely loossemble weren't established as a group when he made the video because he mentions about oec's upcoming tour when we know that finished a few weeks ago

    • @wefiftyfifty
      @wefiftyfifty 10 місяців тому +4

      @@isabelamartins3915 i didnt rlly Watch the video like i legit couldn’t finish it but a bunch of people on twt r saying he didn’t even mention any post-jj eras which is insane to me???? like 50% AT LEAST of their popularity comes from then how r u just gonna ignore that

    • @adeleb6168
      @adeleb6168 10 місяців тому +12

      @@Orbitmumthe group name has been known since late july and he used the group picture that had the caption “loossemble crew profile”

  • @zacanger
    @zacanger 10 місяців тому +14

    It cost roughly $2.2m for the predebut project. Jaden mentioned it in a comment on his blog - the $9m figure was a marketing ploy.

  • @novrendy
    @novrendy 10 місяців тому +56

    No mentions of the other LOONA members whatsoever. Where's the LOONA when there's no LOONA mentioned?

  • @jiungsglasses2971
    @jiungsglasses2971 10 місяців тому +11

    the way the title caught my attention immediately

  • @gohtcheez
    @gohtcheez 10 місяців тому +136

    this is not a video about loona its a video about artms …. dont use their name for clickbait if you’re not even gonna MENTION the other SEVEN members 😭😭😭😭 especially when loossemble has just as many members as artms including the yyxy members that have talked about how badly jaden treated them

    • @AfroJeffrey
      @AfroJeffrey 7 місяців тому +4

      WRONG. It's still part of LOONA.

  • @tadabae
    @tadabae 10 місяців тому +75

    hey don't forget the loossemble girls (hyunjin, vivi, yeojin, gowon, and hyeju) - they are having a US tour soon!!!

  • @sourjellies
    @sourjellies 10 місяців тому +151

    11:04 i saw the girls live in Amsterdam last year, you could just see how drained they were and feel the low energy it was sad to see but this time on oec tour it was incredible you can really tell they actually enjoyed it and seemed so energised too

    • @Omnipotions
      @Omnipotions 10 місяців тому +3

      Love to hear this!! T-T
      - Jinsoul Stan

  • @user-uo8mx3cv5k
    @user-uo8mx3cv5k 10 місяців тому +116

    I just want to clarify, in Queendom 2, they got covid and could not participate in round 1. They still performed after they all healed, and the performance was absolutely beautiful, but they did not get any points from it. There's a minimum amount of score they could get each round, and if they had gotten even just that (which imo they wouldve gotten at least 3rd), that is enough to surpass WJSN's score. Loona lost on a technicality, no hate to WJSN, but Loona was and ever shall be the real winner of Q2.

    • @theskeptic777
      @theskeptic777 7 місяців тому +7

      Literally had they not gotten covid, they would have won Q2 and that would have been ICONIC AF

  • @antoniocastro4159
    @antoniocastro4159 10 місяців тому +48

    sure a video about loona barely mentioning even half of the members

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому

      because half of the members didn’t even debut or promote yet so we haven’t gotten any content from them?

    • @antoniocastro4159
      @antoniocastro4159 6 місяців тому +1

      @@RoyaleMusical I'm sorry but you're very behind?? Loossemble debuted consisting of Hyunjin, Yeojin, Gowon, Hyeju and Vivi. Chuu had a solo debut and Heejin too. The only one who hasn't had any comeback is Yves however she wrote the song strawberry soda for Loossemble. You seriously need to catch up on all the loona members you're missing out on a lot!

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому

      @@antoniocastro4159 you’re a bit behind because i mentioned that half of the girls *COUGH COUGH loossemble, yves, chuu, heejin & haseul COUGH COUGH* hadnt even debuted yet so ofc he isn’t going to talk about them when there’s nothing to say

  • @k4n0np0l
    @k4n0np0l 10 місяців тому +29

    Titles it LOONA but barely mentions members that make up LOONA and spends more time talking about that man and how his other group operates. Not to mention continually saying LOONA is over when the members themselves have been documented multiple times saying the opposite 🤧
    Anyway.
    LOOSSEMBLE is debuting something on September 15 6PM KST, Chuu mentioned an album drop soon, Yves has been hyping up something she's been working on since May/June, Heejin solo activity in October, possible Haseul solo activity, possible OEC or ARTMS winter album, and ARTMS debut soon!

  • @Theskyisred44
    @Theskyisred44 10 місяців тому +9

    Damn they killing you in the comments

  • @glitzy8599
    @glitzy8599 10 місяців тому +43

    how about you title the video “find out about what artms is doing” because you clearly didn’t mention lossemble yves or chuu

  • @uhh4524
    @uhh4524 10 місяців тому +64

    Went into this expecting something actually informative about what happened after only for you to focus on artms and completely disregarding the rest. You talked about jaden more than the group themself? Don’t include loona in the title if youre not gonna actually talk about them

  • @chs1311
    @chs1311 10 місяців тому +57

    Making a video about Loona and purposefully ignorning half of the members, how much did JJ pay you?

    • @Leaenab.
      @Leaenab. 10 місяців тому +5

      That's the real question that needs answers.🤔

  • @padisuromertani
    @padisuromertani 10 місяців тому +67

    Dude, the sooner we realized Jaden is not our savior, the better it's...

    • @Mymymy23
      @Mymymy23 10 місяців тому +1

      I don’t like to consider him a savior either but he did support and help the girls a lot

    • @padisuromertani
      @padisuromertani 10 місяців тому +22

      @@Mymymy23 a lot being the bare minimum

    • @Mymymy23
      @Mymymy23 10 місяців тому +4

      @@padisuromertani the members said it themselves that Jaden kept in contact with them while they were still under bbc and gave them advice. They’ve talked about how grateful they are to him multiple times. The bare minimum is not signing them under his company and redebuting oec immediately after

    • @padisuromertani
      @padisuromertani 10 місяців тому +19

      @@Mymymy23 the bare minimum is actually care about the member while he's the one responsible for it during predebut-2019, but from what we know through yyxy experience, he's not someone we can rely or trust

    • @Mymymy23
      @Mymymy23 10 місяців тому +1

      @@padisuromertani he wasn't the one responsible for it because he was the creative director not the ceo nor their manager. And the video is about artms who clearly trust him, doesn't really matter whether fans do or not

  • @weewee0
    @weewee0 10 місяців тому +100

    i guess loossemble and yves just aren't loona anymore 🤣🤣

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому +1

      they didn’t debut or promote at the time of this 🤦‍♂️

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 6 місяців тому

      he still mentioned haseul heejin & chuu and they didn't debut or promote at the time of this 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@@RoyaleMusical

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 6 місяців тому

      🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@@RoyaleMusical

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 6 місяців тому +1

      🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@@RoyaleMusical

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 6 місяців тому

      🤦‍♂@@RoyaleMusical

  • @a-yyxy531
    @a-yyxy531 10 місяців тому +7

    11:25 how are you gonna get that all wrong, it was the tour first, then Chuu got removed in November, 9/11 remaining members filed to terminate their contracts and then they announced a "comeback".

  • @chl65g86
    @chl65g86 10 місяців тому +25

    next time just name the video my love letter to jaden jeong freak

  • @Realunmaker
    @Realunmaker 10 місяців тому +63

    While I liked the video over all, crowning artms loona 2.0 while ignoring what the other members are doing is bit unfair.
    I know Loona, the sound and the aesthetics were something but as proven by how much orbits liked everysong and every comeback they did including osts for dramas and other stuff, most orbits are here for the members, the girls.
    Although I'm extremely happy for Odd Eye Circle and supported all their comeback cycle, ordered their album in all their versions, etc etc, I don't feel it's fair to do a video focusing only on them as if the other members left the loona idea/concept behind when they signed with another agency or decided to go solo.
    If anything what kept the fandom still united during the boycott (the whole boycott era you ordered a bit weirdly too, I'm sure it makes for a compelling story that way but that's not the order things happened) was Hyunjin being brave and talking to us through it all, she'll always be a cornerstone of Loona even if Monotree never gives her a song or if Digipedi never directs one of her videos.
    I can't in good conscience like this video bro, it feels weird.

    • @adeleb6168
      @adeleb6168 10 місяців тому +32

      right, he also straight up didn’t mention yves at all whrn the stuff she’s been doing post bbc is def worth talking about

    • @somehowsmh
      @somehowsmh 6 місяців тому +1

      exactly, and the way jaden jeong is glorified just rubs me the wrong way

  • @CaneFumatore
    @CaneFumatore 10 місяців тому +47

    it's a nice although flawed little recap story but it's clear that it was made in accordance to what Modhaus wanted you to focus on, even tripleS which has very little to do with Loona as a whole was mentioned, but Loossemble wasn't even named

  • @orbitthemoon
    @orbitthemoon 10 місяців тому +16

    loona is for all 12 members, so this doesn’t make sense to me. sure we get artms seems to be the most safe option rn with modhaus behind them and good links to producers and stuff but,
    it really falls flat with orbits if you’re going to focus only on 5/12 members of loona? i clicked on this thinking that everyone would be covered.
    instead, we barely mentioned the other 5/12 girls, chuu, or yves and her really interesting solo approach

  • @archiveofyass
    @archiveofyass 10 місяців тому +88

    Very weird video…. jaden jeong is not a good person regardless. respect the girls. they deserve more respect than him. it’s very weird how you center a video on a man that left them to dust and don’t mention loona themselves and their new achievements

    • @CatallenaLalalala
      @CatallenaLalalala 10 місяців тому +25

      Thank you. The fact is, they only got more successful after JJ left. So crediting everything to other people is so insulting to the loona members. Of course, he and all the other people who worked with loona deserve credit too, but most orbits I know stayed with loona because of the music and more importantly because of the GIRLS themselves and their bond and talent.

    • @archiveofyass
      @archiveofyass 10 місяців тому +8

      @@CatallenaLalalala 10000% he only held them back

    • @CatallenaLalalala
      @CatallenaLalalala 10 місяців тому +15

      ​@@archiveofyassabsolutely. They barely did any promotion from debut to XX. And they had so much stuff suddenly during #. His "mysterious" gg idea simply does not work for a kpop group and probably never will.

    • @user-jn7ul9ek8m
      @user-jn7ul9ek8m 7 місяців тому +1

      Grades are not everything. The fact is that BlockBerry's slave contract resulted in Chuu leaving loona, followed by other members winning the case.
      Loona had a great music video and song when Jaden Jung was there.
      Luminous is a low-key copy of butterfly itself.
      Blockberry dropped Jaden Jung for the reason of reducing LOONAVERSE, but BlockBerry also shows its active use of LOONAVERSE on the "Flip that" album. It is a very contradictory and strange move.
      BlockBerry is a company that pays back the wages of choreographers and managers.
      I don't believe in Blockberry.
      Many global orbits overlook, and if Jaden Jung hadn't picked Chuu, there wouldn't be a "Stan Loona" meme.
      It's BlockBerry that should be blamed, not jaden jung.

    • @user-jn7ul9ek8m
      @user-jn7ul9ek8m 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@CatallenaLalalalaLoona didn't promote?
      OnlyOneOf, an 8D group where JJ was in A&R, did a lot of V Live.
      Loona, on the other hand, did not do V Live and broadcast on a new platform called Mylive (Yeojin's convenience store live).
      And BlockBerry lost a lawsuit against Mylive's company, Donuts, and paid 360 million won.
      At this point, I think you know who the problem is.

  • @toastpavedtheway
    @toastpavedtheway 10 місяців тому +7

    you are not taking abt loossemble or yves in any moment

  • @ouriiangel
    @ouriiangel 10 місяців тому +14

    mention how jADEN LEFT LADIES CODE

  • @PolecanePC
    @PolecanePC 10 місяців тому +10

    9M to debut LOONA was debunked by Jaden Jeong himself. He said in one of interviews that it was 2-3M USD. The 9M was just for mediaplay.

  • @gg-xs4lb
    @gg-xs4lb 10 місяців тому +47

    I hope you make an entirely different video about loossemble and yves and don’t mention artms lol

  • @weewee0
    @weewee0 10 місяців тому +108

    jaden didn't save loona either (triple s and artms saved HIM) so idfk what you're talking about, literally more members signed with other companies than they did with jaden i think that explains everything x

    • @tepuntopunto
      @tepuntopunto 10 місяців тому +5

      sure grandma, lets get you to bed

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 10 місяців тому +36

      @@tepuntopunto its a legitimate fact. jaden has failed MULTIPLE times with lovelyz, ladies' code, loona, only one of and then triple s and artms are coming along to try to help him pursue his dream finally.

    • @tepuntopunto
      @tepuntopunto 10 місяців тому +5

      @@weewee0 "its a legitimate fact!!!" -someone whos outside the situations and knows nothing of it

    • @weewee0
      @weewee0 10 місяців тому +18

      @@tepuntopunto how is it not a legitimate fact that jaden is the one that needed saving not LOONA?

    • @CatallenaLalalala
      @CatallenaLalalala 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@tepuntopunto how about you go back to bed, grandma. JJ may have good ideas but he's an absolute fuckup and it's a pattern he's had with pretty much all his ggs. Loona only became as successful as they are because of fans' love for them and the girls' hard work. Not to mention, they started getting more successful after he left (which again happened to some of his other ggs too). So what exactly did he do for them? The only thing I can give him credit for is the loonaverse and pre-debut to XX music.

  • @aebbeh
    @aebbeh 10 місяців тому +45

    Stan Artms Stan Loossemble, Stan Chuu Stan Yves

  • @simsenshi
    @simsenshi 10 місяців тому +30

    'what happened to loona' yet u ignored half of the members..? yeah okay

  • @samiralae9739
    @samiralae9739 10 місяців тому +12

    you skipped over a LOT of important details but overall this is pretty concise

    • @jinsolz
      @jinsolz 10 місяців тому +12

      important details being yves and loosemble

    • @CatallenaLalalala
      @CatallenaLalalala 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@jinsolzliterally half the group and they dared put loona in the title

  • @crashh-course
    @crashh-course 10 місяців тому +62

    the hi high instrumental made me feel quite sad. it introduced me to not only kpop outside of my first group i found back in 2018 but girl groups. i was nowhere near an orbit and im still lacking in orbitness but last year i listened to their b sides in a youtube playlist and oh my. it showed me what true orbits saw in those women. it's amazing how they perform and their professionalism and their abilities. i thank them for their efforts and im so happy things are looking up for them. understanding their past, that's not even so long ago, is so interesting and as someone who's drifted and come back to kpop over time (at the moment only really listening to old songs) their stuff is timeless.

    • @thriftskull5549
      @thriftskull5549 10 місяців тому +3

      Bestie it’s okay you are an orbit already!!!!

    • @Omnipotions
      @Omnipotions 10 місяців тому

      hello are we the same person

    • @avrgegmer1396
      @avrgegmer1396 10 місяців тому

      Fam I can’t even listen to Loona without getting emotional, specially Butterfly 🥺

  • @weewee0
    @weewee0 10 місяців тому +12

    LOOSSEMBLE COMEBACK SEPTEMBER 15TH!!!

  • @larsnanders
    @larsnanders 10 місяців тому +8

    Not you leaving info how jj left ladies code and lovelyz after loterally being their main creative director… the amount of misinformation and ingnoring main aspects is astounding. selling out for modhaus and not metioning it in the video… gurl.

  • @DisastrousCake
    @DisastrousCake 8 місяців тому +6

    As someone who hasn’t followed LOONA at all and only got into it bc of Loossemble, this was very helpful to catch up on what happened lol I would have like more mention of the members and their activities though. Seems like you kinda glossed over everyone outside of ARTMS and Chuu.

  • @xyzbladze4541
    @xyzbladze4541 10 місяців тому +13

    The other "LOONA" members erasure sure is real cuz why you just bringing up artms or oec when half of the girls decided to be together? Also chuu is having a comeback and yves is also preparing to go solo and that to you isn't worthy of a mention?
    Next time don't make the shilling to obvious

  • @myaachuu
    @myaachuu 7 місяців тому +5

    Hi, coming here from the Heejin interview video to give this a watch! I'm long time orbit from just right before xx era and I've been here for this long ride on LOONA island. I wish I could just enjoy this video, but there's just too much I feel compelled to speak up on.
    6 minutes into the video and I have to say I'm appalled and disgusted. I am passionate about the LOONAverse as well, don't get me wrong. I can understand JJ is very talented in his own right. But the way this is compiled and explained is not the vibe. This video makes it feel like because of JJ's absence was the reason for LOONA falling apart and not BBC taking advantage of these girls the moment they joined the company and Chuu eventually being the reason the girl's band together and leave BBC. There's such a huge lack of really explaining how we, as fans (and actually LOONA too), were getting radio silence as well from what was going on with LOONA not only after LOONACON(KCON) and Haseul's hiatus, but also with Chuu's "hiatus" which turned into her being kicked from LOONA and being framed by BBC as a monster, but all of the industry comes out to defend her and speak out in favor of her. Like you easily could have added that in and explained it for easily a minute each. I think those were some huge catastrophic events in LOONA's history and it was brushed over and not explained enough... if even at all touched upon...
    And now I'm here, 13 minutes in. And I just can't help but roll my eyes! Why are you such a ride or die for JJ after knowing what he did to the girls in the past? How can you ignore what the girls have said? Again, I too love the story of the LOONAverse and clearly somethings are put to rest as some of the girls have signed with him, but how can you just speak so highly of him like this? And it's like.. it just feels this video is just here to really speak more so on JJ and his impact in Kpop and LOONA... and again.. this is coming from someone who is interested in his creative process for storytelling in groups as well as his music taste (I also kept up with tripleS).
    Saying there's no LOONA feels like a slap in the face with how much the girls speak publicly about them still being LOONA, wanting/hoping to do ot12 activities with each other... etc...
    Also, as everyone else points out in like every comment- where is LOOSEMBLE or Yves in this video?
    "Belief in Jaden would be there when it looked like everything was going to be over."
    Can you be honest? Do you actually know about anything? Are you just like a surface level casual fan of LOONA? Because this is actually insane to hear.
    It'd be nice, if you'd put out some disclaimer/apology of sorts, that explains that you're a casual fan who just was a fan of LOONA for their music and lore, and that's it. Because that's fine! It would make this video more understandable if you genuinely had no idea what LOONA spoke out about and went through. Because that's what this video feels like. Surface level info where JJ is some hero who is swooping in to save LOONA and was always there for them and supported them.
    I hope you might take the time to look up what LOONA has specifically said about what they've went through in the past, and do some research on what LOONA and orbits went through since their debut with Heejin's solo. It's insane how much you leave out that actually matters when it comes to LOONA disbanding and how much you put into this video that is just praising JJ and other things.
    Tl;dr
    I'm sad and disappointed in this video and the crucial information that was left out but should have been included in this video.

    • @alinastqn
      @alinastqn 5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for spending time writing all of this, i hope more people can find your comment because its genuinely shocking to see how ignorant this video is, and when i think about it it feels like JJ paid him to hide the truth because thats just crazy

  • @kyujinz
    @kyujinz 10 місяців тому +17

    i really hope jaden jeong didnt like commission this and purposefully get him to exclude loossemble and yves lol

  • @Fran_Fuentes
    @Fran_Fuentes 10 місяців тому +128

    Yikes my dude. LOONA is not only artms and the girls don't owe their success to Monotree or Jaden Jeong, they contributed sure. But how fiercely loyal orbits are to the moon girls are because of the girls, every time we saw their personalities in a loona TV episode, the way they can convey feelings through their music, those weird and charming vlives and their love for our weird humor. That's all them.
    I'm thankful they're mostly together and will support all of them in what they want to do in the future. Not because they work again with jj I will forget how much weigh Hyeju had to lose in a week, the impossibility of letting Vivi to see her family even in those long hiatus, the way Jinsoul would complain of how much her scalp hurt for the bleach, the way that I the yyxy photoshot the girls were posing with food but not allowed to consume it. Even he admitted his difficult personality and thanked the girls to be willing to work with him again.
    I can't wait for artms debut as a ot5 group they will do amazing and I excited for loossemble and hope the girls that used to get less lines get to shine now and I can't wait to see Chuu and Yves solos debut.

  • @mylifeisrosy5729
    @mylifeisrosy5729 10 місяців тому +24

    there’s seven other members you didnt mention??

  • @gowomese
    @gowomese 10 місяців тому +30

    poorly researched don't speak on them anymore please loona's story centers around 12 women

  • @sourduet
    @sourduet 10 місяців тому +6

    this is pissing me off badddd

  • @loonathewhored
    @loonathewhored 10 місяців тому +12

    This is so annoying why would you make it seem like loona's success is only because of Jaden Jeong... Let's not forget he's a horrible person who treated the girls terribly didn't even want them to popular

  • @wemestros
    @wemestros 10 місяців тому +19

    is this a modhaus sponsored video? lol

    • @larsnanders
      @larsnanders 10 місяців тому +2

      For sure, modhaus has been doing stunts like this for triples like paying random tiktokers to use triples’ songs for tiktoks 🤡

  • @frogeyecircle6913
    @frogeyecircle6913 10 місяців тому +10

    not one mention of yves loossemble & chuu alright how much did you get paid for this

  • @sijilraza3175
    @sijilraza3175 10 місяців тому +7

    trigger warning: if you are an orbit you cant get through the whole video without crying a few times

  • @blackroseinbloom
    @blackroseinbloom 10 місяців тому +12

    I would sell my left leg to see Loona pull a Taylor Swift and all 12 of them re-record their songs under a new name. Not sure if that’s even possible for them, but a girl can dream.

    • @katanari.
      @katanari. 10 місяців тому

      They can get the name "LOONA" but not "girl of the month"

    • @kkentaii
      @kkentaii 10 місяців тому

      ​@@katanari.😭😭😭tbf they never did girl of the month ever again after their solos so

    • @drww1
      @drww1 10 місяців тому

      i believe it was either OEC or maybe Monotree have said they are game to re-record whenever the ladies up for it

  • @10vivid19
    @10vivid19 9 місяців тому +4

    loved the part where you mentioned the other 7 girls who aren't in ARTMS!

  • @hisuianpitch
    @hisuianpitch 10 місяців тому +17

    this isnt a video about loona, its about jaden and artms. if this was about loona you would've talked about loossemble and yves alongside artms.
    stop painting that man as a saviour.

  • @MidoriRick
    @MidoriRick 10 місяців тому +59

    Being an orbit has been painful but seeing how hard they’re trying makes it worth it

  • @akosicvy
    @akosicvy 10 місяців тому +10

    i wasn’t there when oec debuted as a subunit. i’ve only been an orbit since so what, and i’m not as big of a stan as others are. but, seeing oec debut/redebut/comeback had me feeling all the feels. i miss my moon girlies! i know they won’t be back as ot12 soon, but i have hope that they will be back in the future.

  • @mercedesrichardson4515
    @mercedesrichardson4515 10 місяців тому +23

    Yay! So glad you could interview them in person!

  • @slyddle
    @slyddle 10 місяців тому +4

    Hurrraaayyyy I was waiting for the new video to drop!!!

  • @jeanvaloroener6235
    @jeanvaloroener6235 10 місяців тому +10

    Did Jaden Jeong fund this video ijbol

  • @npc.maikoo
    @npc.maikoo 2 місяці тому +2

    thanks bro, i’m literally just getting into this post-loona lore and this vid was so helpful thanks 🙏🙏🙏🗣️

  • @Bennime_Once
    @Bennime_Once 10 місяців тому +11

    On one hand im jealous that you got to meet them. on the other I just saw them myself a couple of weeks ago right in front of me so lol. They are such great performers, I cant wait for what the future holds for them. Wish them all the best, the ARTMS, loosemble girls aswell as chuu and yves.

  • @godssemble
    @godssemble 10 місяців тому +17

    how much did he pay you

  • @mangomangomango8368
    @mangomangomango8368 10 місяців тому +8

    The collab group at 0:13 is Def H1key!!!! I love them, can't wait to see what you did with them!!

  • @aquaticko
    @aquaticko 9 місяців тому +2

    Honestly, having the overflowing handful of gems that are LOONA and their creative team, and running them til they were literally falling apart, not paying them, basically slandering them....BBC absolutely did not deserve to have any control over this immensely talented group of people.

  • @mhhmmhhmm
    @mhhmmhhmm 10 місяців тому +79

    Love the video you created, I personally wonder why you didn't mention CTDenm., LOOSSEMBLE or what Chuu and Yves are up to? ARTMS is only one 1/3 of the new LOONA saga.

    • @archiveofyass
      @archiveofyass 10 місяців тому +8

      because he’s stupid and loves jaden jeong

    • @markigirl2757
      @markigirl2757 7 місяців тому

      What happened t Yves never seen her since

    • @zacharikurbah6358
      @zacharikurbah6358 6 місяців тому

      @@markigirl2757 Yves will be debut as a solo artist, she's still in talks of looking for an agency

  • @crazypanda4592
    @crazypanda4592 10 місяців тому +250

    He simply had to investigate for himself; as an orbit I admire the dedication
    Edit: I do wish that all members were mentioned in detail. While I absolutely love ARTMS, that’s only 5 out of the 12 members.

    • @sept4799
      @sept4799 10 місяців тому +3

      Exactly 😂 🔥

    • @sourduet
      @sourduet 10 місяців тому +18

      he got so many things wrong

    • @MrRobotoZX
      @MrRobotoZX 10 місяців тому +10

      as orbit could not admire someone who does not give clear information, making it known that jaden saved the girls and not reflecting the true struggle of each to be free from bbc. Being a real orbit you would understand why some went with Jaden and others the other way.

    • @toastpavedtheway
      @toastpavedtheway 10 місяців тому +3

      and he got so many thigns wrong

    • @crazypanda4592
      @crazypanda4592 9 місяців тому

      ⁠@@MrRobotoZX I agree with this. While I don’t believe Jaden was the “bad guy” as he was made out to be when he left BBC, I do not believe that he “saved” Loona. Only 5 members chose to join Modhaus, which is valid.

  • @marj4330
    @marj4330 10 місяців тому +122

    its pissing me off so much how you centralize loona’s success towards one person as if it was handed on a silver platter to the members themselves. LOONA’S SUCCESS IS BECAUSE OF THE GIRLS THEMSELVES. They saved themselves, they weren’t saved by someone.

  • @thecriticalriposte
    @thecriticalriposte 6 місяців тому

    This story is so much more awesome than I expected. Thanks for helping to bring it forward! I need to buy both versions of K and all three of Version Up.

  • @lexlex5555
    @lexlex5555 10 місяців тому +11

    How about Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu 😌

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому

      didn’t debut or promote yet

    • @lexlex5555
      @lexlex5555 6 місяців тому

      @@RoyaleMusical i meant that they weren't mentioned

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому

      @@lexlex5555 well yeah because there was nothing to mention about yves…she didn’t really do anything + he mentioned chuu’s situation a lot. and loossemble was barely even a thing yet

    • @lexlex5555
      @lexlex5555 6 місяців тому

      @@RoyaleMusical still could've mentioned that at least, even if it's the minor stuff like blogs or attending some event

    • @RoyaleMusical
      @RoyaleMusical 6 місяців тому

      @@lexlex5555 yeah true ig but it would kinda feel unnecessary to just random throw in “oh and yves blogs now”

  • @panananananana
    @panananananana 10 місяців тому +75

    What a disappointing video - how much did jj pay you, nathan? Lol

  • @loverinth
    @loverinth 10 місяців тому +49

    you forgot to mention that jaden jeong starved the girls and he caught yves eating once so he took her food and then publicly posted about it making fun of her! 😊

    • @444tz
      @444tz 9 місяців тому +2

      source?

  • @Ash2theB
    @Ash2theB 10 місяців тому +5

    I'm going support the girls regardless of what can company they are in. I'm got tickets for the upcoming tour. I wish I could have seen OEC in Paris during their European tour.

  • @jorgeasfurapadilla4911
    @jorgeasfurapadilla4911 10 місяців тому +5

    0:00 Jinsoul reference

  • @loonathepuddle
    @loonathepuddle 10 місяців тому

    Love the set and welcome back!

  • @cherryhyej00o0
    @cherryhyej00o0 10 місяців тому +4

    Becoming an Orbit and experiencing the rise and fall and rise of these 12 amazing girls will never leave my memory EVER
    Im still hoping for an Ot12 collab in the near future but in the meantime lets enjoy ARTMS, Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu's individual activities❤️

  • @sourjellies
    @sourjellies 10 місяців тому +1

    I saw the girls live in berlin last week and this is making me miss them so much 🥲 love the video!!!

  • @BlossomFlicks
    @BlossomFlicks 10 місяців тому

    Thought your channel stopped. Missed your contents. Glad you’re back

  • @kingtaeyeonie7908
    @kingtaeyeonie7908 10 місяців тому +5

    OMG I MISSED YOU!!!

  • @hanene227
    @hanene227 10 місяців тому +3

    welcome back! I loved the video, can you do what happened to Rain and Taemin next?

  • @kkottii
    @kkottii 10 місяців тому +17

    You spent more time talking about Jaden than any of the LOONA members. Might as well change the title of the video. Absolutely no mentions about Yves (her production crew, solo shoots) or Loossemble (Run Orbit event, upcoming US tour). Horrible research.

  • @Ch03rry
    @Ch03rry 10 місяців тому +8

    so fawk 7/12 of loona?

  • @kingtaeyeonie7908
    @kingtaeyeonie7908 10 місяців тому +5

    i am looking forward to everything… even those who signed under that different company, that has 12 dots as logo with the 4 who signed filling 4 into color, their individual representative colors from loona. its so nice to see all holding onto loona and wanting to continue the story

    • @nakynaki
      @nakynaki 10 місяців тому +5

      Lmao it’s 5 though. The way Loona split was quite identical. 5 to one, 5 to the other, and chuu and yves solo. It’s just that one of the dots is grey and therefore hard to see

  • @kessiareis7007
    @kessiareis7007 9 місяців тому

    I love watching you! Your dreams will come true! Thanks for the content!

  • @KPOPJunkee
    @KPOPJunkee 10 місяців тому +11

    JINSOUL?!?!?!?!?!?! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @InternetsNathan
    @InternetsNathan  10 місяців тому +149

    So yeah, I know I went for milk and didn't comeback but now We are SO BACK! Making a lot of new videos and fresh takes on videos you already like from me! LETS GET IT! Oh, and Odd Eye Circle was pretty chill 😅

    • @kurzweber3041
      @kurzweber3041 10 місяців тому +4

      Welcome back!

    • @Pollo.a.la.crema.
      @Pollo.a.la.crema. 10 місяців тому +6

      Thank you so much for giving the LOONA girls love, I was hoping you would talk about Loosemble, and the other two solo girls but maybe part two?

    • @decide2think
      @decide2think 10 місяців тому +2

      And before you know it, OEC in Europe then back again! Successful tour!

    • @padisuromertani
      @padisuromertani 10 місяців тому +26

      Jaden is not our savior, credit is where credit due but putting him as the godfather or savior is a bit too much...

  • @ondatheworld
    @ondatheworld 10 місяців тому +2

    Perfect day to release this video since we found out Chuu won her lawsuit!! I hope you will make a video discussing Loossemble's side of things once they release music.

  • @sijilraza3175
    @sijilraza3175 10 місяців тому +31

    I AM SO PROUD OF LOONA AND MY FELLOW ORBITS❤❤

  • @HikaruNyan
    @HikaruNyan 10 місяців тому +4

    girl bfr

  • @andrewchoi2613
    @andrewchoi2613 10 місяців тому

    Welcome back! i remember one of the first videos I watched of yours was where you had 'STAN LOONA' on your forehead--a true die-hard fan, lol! Glad you got to meet them! I assume that meeting's going to be an upcoming post??

  • @JarretS87
    @JarretS87 10 місяців тому +2

    Loona's not dead. It's just a new beginings

  • @AfroJeffrey
    @AfroJeffrey 7 місяців тому +1

    I just saw OEC literally yesterday, and this reminded me Girl Front was the 1st LOONA song I listened that hooked me. OEC

  • @Shethefern
    @Shethefern 3 місяці тому

    I loved them from the beginning!!!! And excitied for their future

  • @K-POPWatchLater
    @K-POPWatchLater 10 місяців тому

    I love your storytelling

  • @AndYouWillBeWithMe
    @AndYouWillBeWithMe 10 місяців тому

    ok now we DEFINITELY need the Korea vlog en interview video... You vlogged right?

  • @toomanysuns
    @toomanysuns 10 місяців тому +45

    Just finding it very interesting that you were able to mention tripleS but not Loossemble and Yves, and how you're implying that Jaden Jeong was the biggest factor in Loona's success when they've actually had a huge rise in popularity after XX. You claim to be an orbit, but completely brush over how the girls have talked about how Jaden would starve them and force them to keep their hair blonde even though they had headaches from the constant bleaching. It's also a little outdated to contribute's a girl group's success to a man, right?