Getting Back on Grid
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Establishing an internet connection in an internet desert, then figuring out (well, starting to) networking.
Combined with Starlink as my internet provider, I ended up going with a wifi bridge implementation with a couple of Ubiquiti nanostation AC locos to network between buildings at 100+ meters of distance. The Ubiquiti units can also do point to point (ptp), but so far the wifi bridge setup is working great for me.
Ubiquiti NanoStation 5AC Locos (buy in pairs for ptp/wifi bridge): amzn.to/3UqnLnQ
Mounting hardware I used, but you can use just about anything, including zip tying to a tree or something: amzn.to/42ycS5d
PoE Injectors (can use any PoE switch too): amzn.to/482oNJO
Silicone sealant: amzn.to/42vu5w9
For shorter distances, you can also use:
TPLink Access Points (AP): amzn.to/3OCe6qp
I also have enjoyed the 2016 model years of the Google wifi: amzn.to/495Ydkm These are half the price of the newer version, the nest variant: amzn.to/3HSDdBM
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The ultimate programming is terraforming!
That's subset of reality manipulation
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With due respect, I think you stopped on fiber too soon. You can get 200m outdoor rated LC to LC fiber for $200. Many small routers and network appliances are coming out with SFP+ cages and you can pack a bunch of utility on them. Pihole, firewall, NAS, cache, etc. There is the added benefit of hard wiring stuff in your barn. You’d just need SFP+ connectors on routers with a 200m weather rated cable and 1000BASE-SX SFP connectors. Try it out! We’d love to see it.
100x this. I'd have stayed away away from wifi extenders; they're a world of pain (although Uniquiti is pretty decent; that's what I use).
Fiber these days is not that expensive, and much more reliable. Laying the fiber may be the worst part, but also very doable; you just need to remember marking where you dug and put the ducts.
Based on all the things you just said, I'm confident I made the right choice lol.
Fiber could be cool for a more in depth solution potentially, but way more complicated and a much larger job than 2 units and 2 holes.
And I didn't use wifi extenders here @wrgms
@@sentdex You never regret a cable in the long run. You can probably get a pre-terminated rugged single mode fiber of good quality for $500. Transceivers are cheap. But if you can handle the loss, and less than ideal performance during bad weather wifi-links are ok, just make sure the Fresnel zone is unobstructed. Foliage are bad for signal and so is reflection from metallic surfaces. So make sure to stay out of the way for the slick roof, it will reflect signal like crazy.
I agree with the person below that said to use a fiber connection for this. Get a switch that supports pluggable (SFP+) modules ($200), and buy some 10G SPF+ ($130/each) + fiber, plastic corrugated plastic pipe to put the fiber in etc. and just drop it in a trench between buildings. It's a little expensive as home networking goes but you will have reliable 10G ethernet between buildings when you are done and you can always swap/upgrade components on the other side of the fiber in the future without needing to touch the fiber for 20+ years. The 10G ethernet connections between buildings will support AP's in each building running the fastest WiFi speeds. Don't mess with mesh WiFi, media converters, repeaters etc. Just go fiber now. Even Ubiquity sells an 8 port SPF+ 10G switch for $270 if you want to stick with their ecosystem for everything.
I appreciate the thoughts here, but I still want the mesh and dont see why the ptp/bridge for house to lab internet is an issue. I think people underestimate the part about no cell service, for example on the land. I want mesh not for building to building, but for general service on the land. The wifi bridge concept was new to me a few years ago when I first made the plunge to try that over a physical line to my old office space. I thought surely it wouldn't be as good as a physical line then too...but tbh it was never a problem. I use 10gig intra office all the time for sure, but never needed even gigabit between office and house and don't see a reason why I would here either. If I did though... I'd probably just get more powerful ptps haha. Why run a physical line? Haven't seen any reason to yet.
Bro also considered the fall 🤣🤣 2:25
you were my biggest inspiration for learning machine learning when i was in grade 6th. since then I learned python, machine learning, deep learning and pygame development from you. thank you sentdex.
bro 6th grade? I’m old af
Awesome!
@@sentdex I also loved the NNFS book. During COVID. I bought it, and it helped me understand the fundamentals of neural networks and the mathematics them. I had great fun learning and reading the book, and it brightened up my lockdown.
man sentdex is living the dream
Dude I used ur data for stock trading years ago. Ur a wizard
Which data? Can you please share some references?
Nice setup. We have Starlink too along with a few of their gen 3 routers to extend into the garage and pump house. Also 4 separate solar systems. If the electronics ran on a 12/24v system you wouldn't need an inverter. That'd save money. Leftover house install panels can be found for pretty cheap. Battery is dependent on what you're trying to run and for how long, but building a pack with 18650s or something could be an option.
Great to see you and love how you have such a great setup!
When your homelab is quiet enough to put in your kitchen that is some good Sh!t. I'm not saying you should keep it there, but if you can cook dinner next to it, that's next level quiet.
can't wait to see what you do with the ranch over time. im also a remote tech bro who retreated to the countryside and bought a ranch
Loved the way you cut at swift kick 😂😂
Go fiber between buildings and WIFI for outside. You are on a farm now i guess so dig a trench, put a (I thinks its called Corrugated Pipe in english) in the soil. Make some videos about it and profit in multiple ways. Stable connection, some additional knowledge, some money, sounds not so bad to me and I would even watch ;) . Would you not like have a backup server in another building anyways?
Was going to say this, fiber is probably much more reasonably priced for this than you expect.
Love to see you upgrading life
I'm not sure about star-link's EM frequency, but sub infer-red/microwave such as radio frequency should flow through leaves and twigs and the such easily.
lol. Is your server rack in the refrigerator spot in the kitchen?? I LOVE it.....
Wow, great plot twist🤣
W range, guys moved to Alaska to escape grid, but that place is close to Russia
Have you tried internet over power? One of those modules that transmit over AC plugs? If your barn and office share the same AC Power cables, it might work.
I suspect the signal strength wouldn't be very good. Iirc that's best for a smaller network but I might be mistaken. Totally forgot about that.
you're probably right. I posted that comment right before you mentioned that you're using PoE modules, so I though you didn't know they existed. @@sentdex
Hey mate, currently manage a firm with 250 people and about 10 p2p units, these units like a good about of vertical space for the wave give it a good 6 feet up and down for optimal, btw we use the big units and get 10gb full duplex they are fantastic
Is there any chance to see new nnfs videos like part 10?
Hey, just a heads up for you. The latest Starlink dish, sold at Best Buy, requires a much shallower angle to connect to the satellites in space.
A network bridge is a (mostly)logical term. it enables attaching 2 different MAC layer network into a single MAC layer network. For example, when you arping a device in a bridged network, you should get an answer. Point-to-point is a meaning of Physical connection, hence being in the physical layer. So, you can establish a bridge over a point-to-point connection, or over any other means of physical connection. On the other hand, you can connect 2 devices using PTP, but use IP routing, and then you get 2 separate MAC networks that communicate at the IP level
Why did you move there?
(Seems many smart and rich people are setting up bunkers and shelters in remote places.. Hawaii, New Zealand, etc)
"Appropriate fridge to server ratio" 🤣🤣
The only wifi extenders that have worked for me are the ones that use the power grid to transmit the signal.
Then again, I live in a building... pretty different than the middle of the coutry with no wiring to use :/
Get poit to point microwave link for each building
I'm shocked that as the AI machine learning nerd/expert you are that this was such a task for you!
Fiber is easy, I'd run OM3 (LC-LC) fiber to a 10GB SFP+ router or switch between the points and it'd be like $500-750 for full setup.
If you want to keep it wireless I'd go with MikroTik 6Ghz P2P dishes which is a directional wireless connection that sends Gb speed internet. Ubiquiti also has these super high speed wireless connections. These P2P wireless aren't wifi rather a faster data connection and work up to several miles apart with some good line of sight.
Damn man so wish i could buy some land like that
You know this, sadly, is what’s keeping me from moving more towards the mountains and away from people here. My whole family would go nuts sans broadband.
Tragic.
Why not use multiple PoE-powered switches as an ethernet repeater? (or just a PoE-powered extender?)
Getting the power and running the lines mostly.
@@sentdex poe power...
I think the technical term is POE passthrough, it recieves POE power input, eat some power and passes the remaining power to a upstream POE device 😊
@@Stinosko yes
Ingot #6 when though?
Hell yeah!
There are newer 110v heat pump dryer washer combo
4:40 and how about power over ethernet? to daisy chain all the required switches along the line. Or just use optic cable with ethernet-optic converter
Mikrotik has "extenders" that do this. PoE to get another 100m.
What happend to your voice? You sound differently here than in your previous videos!
Had covid recently, still fairly congested in the recording... so probably mostly that
@@sentdex Damn, hope you'll fully recover soon!
We going outback
Long time no see
It is apparent to me that you are not married, it shows by having a server rack in you kitchen. If I did that it would go over like a *_FART IN CHURCH!!!_* The only other thing that I would have done differently is I would have mounted the Ubiquiti units up higher on the outside walls of the two buildings to prevent interference when someone parks a car in front of one of the two units, it's not if someone does it's when someone *_DOES!!!_*
Happily married for coming up on 10 years :o !!! May indeed mount the units higher so a car doesn't block. It should be rare for a car to park in between though, if ever, given the location of the line of sight. But yeah, still, better to be higher probably.
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The cheapest and more safe solution is fiber. But ok, I didn't understood half what you said, first you said you didn't had power on the destination, and after you went with Nano beans that require power! , Yeah if you have power on both points the cheapest, safe ( because of lightning ) and most reliable connection is fiber.
From Pygta to a ranch life. What a journey! Couldn't be happier for you, Harrison. Also... never got a chance to say thank you. Your videos over those years have literally changed my life and allowed me to become a real software engineer with a job in tech! Again, thank you!
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Thx guy
what an awesome video
just you rambling about your ideas and projects and very funny jokes and self irony in it
very much reminds me of the good old sentdex project times
So... Buried fiber. Just needs the cable, and switches with fiber modules or plain media converters.
bro that server room
One has to appreciate the edits, where you remove the words you initially recorded, although, we all know what you're thinking :D
Granted it’s a much smaller distance but I’m using a Unifi AC Pro to bridge to my garage. But if I had to do it DIY point-to-point I’d probably try and do a connection using a DIRECTV dish with standard WiFi antennas in the LNB housing. Connect that to a mesh bridge router and point it at your home WiFi. But honestly it’s almost easier to buy a couple solar LifePo4 setups and buck converters and put a switch in the middle of a physical line. To each their own.
any plan to change your black glass to vision pro. in youtube pic??
Your cabling has given me anxiety
Good