Shout out to yall for helping me understand basketball a lil more I started really following the NBA seriously this season and now I’m starting to recognize names without looking them up as much! As a female, I’ll probably start following the WNBA as well! Keep it up guys, loving it
Bro P is so quick to snap on a man like “Oh you on a basketball podcast, you should have an answer for a basketball question or should we just kick you off the pod?” Like damn bro let the man think for a sec 😂
After listening to both this and last weeks pod, DMills should definitely have a segment called “Darrick’s Dishes” or something like that all about his food stories
Aye y’all came out at the perfect time. Got my senior day at university today for lacrosse and I needed some easy listening before the game. Best sports podcast period
Can we spam in the comments how much the media is disrespecting the Atlanta hawks? The team is the 4th seed, Trae is averaging the same numbers as Luka (minus the rebounds more assists), Capella is the NBA leading rebounder, the team had 11 3s in a quarter, they are having a streak without Collins Reddish and Hunter. And yet no segments what so ever about the hawks? Even the Bulls had more coverage than the Hawks this season what is this??? Oh and I forgot, the other day the Hawks beat the pelicans by 20 and the story was the 34 points from Zion with no mention of what the hawks did!
Apparently y’all (at least mike) don’t watch enough Andrew Wiggins. When Mike said he ain’t slowing nobody down that’s definitely not true. For example he clamped Bradley Beal a few weeks ago and holding him to 20 also Zach Lavigne holding him to 12 he also is a top wing defender when it comes to bpg lastly he is one of the reasons the warriors are a top 5 defense in the league
what!!!!!!!!!! giannis literally DOMINATED the league two years in arow went to the confernece finals two years ago on a team no one else stepped up when he was doubled and tripled where jokic just got to the finals and murray was consisstantly hitting 50s .... yall are understmating his dominance i swear its like taking any other 5 over shaq cause he cant do it all only layups
jokic went to the conference finals one year and ad was destroying him lmao, they brought up playoff success in this argument which was a big mistake imo
@@jaredpurcell3982 Jokic averaged 22 7 and 5 against the lakers and P says he dogged the lakers but when Giannis averaged 22 11 and 5 against the heat he’s a playoff choker🤔
You guys don’t watch enough golden state to say you can’t give Wiggins the ball... he leads the second unit as the point guard most nights Wiggins also is on the list for the most blocks/steals, while not being a big man. He also is one of the leaders in the NBA of when he’s guarding, the offensive player scores the least eFG%- and he’s guarding Kawhi, Lebron, etc and slowing them down And finally, his ppg down, but his efficiency up a looottttt. I’d rather Wiggins being efficient and get 18ppg than Wiggins just shoot constantly, miss every shot and get 20 points from 40 shots
Here are 10 matchups that I came up with in case you guys make an episode out these debates: Brandon Ingram vs. Khris Middleton Fred VanVleet vs. Mike Conley Caris LeVert vs. Jordan Clarkson Evan Fournier vs. Robert Covington Lauri Markkanen vs. Robert Williams Kelly Oubre vs. Donte DiVincenzo Tyler Herro vs. Kyle Kuzma Norman Powell vs. Dejounte Murray Mikal Bridges vs. Jerami Grant Bam Adebayo vs. Karl-Anthony Towns
The good thing is that you guys increased the NBA portion of the podcast over the after show portions. Don’t get it twisted y’all I love the after show, but I prefer the NBA talk. Keep it going guys.
giannis never said he doesnt want to gaurd the other teams best players. he said he did what the coach asked him to do when talking about no gaurding jimmy butler. so if you want to put fault on somebody, put fault ion budenhozer for not putting his players in the right position to win. giannis is that guy on defense.
I’d pick Jokic over Giannis. It is brain vs. muscle and it is pretty close individually, but Jokic makes his teammates better, and that is why is my pick.
As a wiz fan, I love this podcast bc y'all stay bigging them up lmao. If the Wizards make the play-in and beat one of: Hornets/Heat/Pacers, I'd be pretty shocked-even if you get huge games from Russ/Brad, they just don't have it on defense to hang with real playoff teams
no shot y’all taking book and simmons over mitchell. y’all gonna say mitchell is just a scorer what do you think booker is?? you seen what mitchell does in the playoffs where you cant say the same for ben or book. and mitchell is literally averaging more points than booker i just don’t see where booker is the better player and they saying it like it’s not even close
I don't think it's that crazy. Ben can do everything but shoot. 6'10" guy that can handle the ball is hard to pass up. The debate should have been Mitchell or Booker.
@@ocdshaggy lmao u crazy.. what has Ben done besides beat the Brooklyn Nets led by DLo, I’ve seen D Mitch take over games his rookie year vs 3 future hofers in the playoffs, just last playoffs he was on a tear with no second option offensively vs a great Nuggets team, swap him and Ben and tell me how that go
@@imfrmnj I'm a a Jazz fan and a Mitchell fan. I would take Mitchell over both. But Ben has everything but shooting at 6'10". I can see why people would be intrigued by that. What I don't see is why most people put Booker over Mitchell. Like you said Mitchell has proven he can carry a team every year ge has been in the league. Can't say the same about Booker.
@@ocdshaggy lol so the debate shouldve been Booker or Ben then.. and what u mean by ‘does everything’ he can pass, he can rebound but scoring is very important in the game of basketball.. also he not no lockdown defender like ppl make him to be or he says he is
@@imfrmnj Ben is not a lock down defender but is still a great defender. It's hard to be a lock down defender in the NBA right now because so much is in favor of the offensive player. The best you could hope for is to make it as difficult as possible for the player. I really wish they would have gone more in depth on what their thought process was on the Mitchell/ Booker thing. It could have been a good discussion. It's so odd they went with a Young and Mitchell debate.
They need to yell at p the way he would yell at them. If mike or dmills didn’t have the right ages for these people he would be roasted the heck out of them.
To add to the Jokic vs Giannis debate, Joker scales up in the playoffs especially as a scorer. Not that Giannis doesn’t but we’ve seen Giannis effectiveness dwindled more than Jokic.
I mean Jokic has played 5 playoff series he’s been subpar in like 1 of them. Giannis has played 6 playoff series and he’s been subpar in like 2 of them
I have two things to say. I am very hype for Tuesday's show. One of my favorite moments from through the wire was d mill and kb debating nurkic vs gobert. So more of that will be great and second pierre was just extra funny today I don't know if it was just me but he had me laughing so hard. Great show today
I don't think people really realize just how much better Wiggins has been on the defensive end for the warriors. Wiggins doesn't fall asleep off-ball nearly as much as he used to (he has occasional moments where he's late still but its a lot better) and on-ball he's giving a lot more effort now and he ain't falling for simple fakes and foul baits. He DOES slow people down (im not saying he's shutting people down but he is making it tough for his match ups) so I thought that was wild when one of them said "Wiggins ain't slowing nothing down"
Potential future debates: Brandon Ingram (Pierre) vs Jaylen Brown (Kenny) Terry Rozier (Mike) vs Collin sexton (Pierre) Dame (DMills) vs Kyrie Irving (Mike) SGA (Kenny) vs Trae Young (Mike) Derozan (DMills) vs Jrue Holiday (Kenny)
Having watched every warriors game this season... I disagree with mike about Wiggins “not slowing anyone down”. The dude held a 31 ppg scorer in Bradley Beal to 19 on bad efficiency. He also guarded jaylen brown the entire game and brown shot 8-20 from the field. Slowed kawhi down as well, 24 points on 17 shots in a warriors win. Earlier in the season, Andrew Wiggins led the league in blocks per game by a non big man. His defense is extremely underrated. Also darrick didn’t mention that Wiggins 18 ppg has been with one of his most efficient seasons in his career, and since allstar break Wiggins has averaged 20 ppg on 50% from the field and 45% from 3!!!!!
Only OG’s remember when they used to take breaks during the show 💯
Right. Still never understood why tho
They would take breaks so the audio version would play an ad
@@ousseynou7776 oh ya that’s true
Damn it im not og
OGs remember when Mike and Darrick used to be quite as hell and really not talk unless spoken to
Shout out to yall for helping me understand basketball a lil more
I started really following the NBA seriously this season and now I’m starting to recognize names without looking them up as much! As a female, I’ll probably start following the WNBA as well!
Keep it up guys, loving it
Let’s gooo she chose NBA over WNBA. Welcome Queen!
@@leventesimon5659 lmao ion think she meant It like that tho
Same I started this year and I’m surprised how many faces i am able to recognize
@@spicyshizz2850 ik ik haha
Welcome to the fam you'll never be bored once you follow the NBA as a real fan
“We should do like fake debates” Kenny catching on to something espn has been doing for years
Kenny: Welcome to through the wire
Me and Pierre: THROUGH THE WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE
"Through the Wiirrreeee!"
"Truuuu daaa wiyahh"
Y'all should do this debate thing every episode
57:26 P be killing me man😂 but he’s right lol
P be on Darricks ass about having different teams and then acts like this lmao
Dmills was smiling hard asf when he heard no aftershow
Lmao thank u for commentin that I’m not watching this episode now
@@kingfadal4711 not a true fan
@@vladdi10k take it out ur throat And say “your welcome”
@@kingfadal4711 weirdo
Bro P is so quick to snap on a man like “Oh you on a basketball podcast, you should have an answer for a basketball question or should we just kick you off the pod?” Like damn bro let the man think for a sec 😂
Y’all gotta hold P accountable, if D-Mills would’ve messed up the list P would be cooking him the whole show 😂
I already know this debate episode will be great.
Nate McMillan needs to be in the Coach of the Year conversation as well. Got the hawks playing well with an insane amount of injuries as well.
facts
Yessirr. Turned them boys around.
Ya'll this video was a complete banger. The debate episode is gonna be crazy too 🔥
These group of Friends feel like my family I swear love YALL
Got back in the gym today and hooped for a while and then came home to this, what a day
Pierre talking about kawhi and giannis at 57 :30 killed me 😂😂😂
Mike was defending Otto Porter and STILL found a way to defend the Lakers bruh HOW?! 🤣😂😂
Debate Topic
Kenny - Julius Randle
Pee - Zach Lavine
Convince everyone who is better
Pierre had that Trarags questioning face after they said HB is better than Wiggins at 1:05:23
After listening to both this and last weeks pod, DMills should definitely have a segment called “Darrick’s Dishes” or something like that all about his food stories
y’all the reason i’m trying to relearn how to shoot after breaking my dominate hand and losing 60% of my range of motion.. bless up
Good luck w that homie you got this
@@santoskircher844 thank you bro bro🙏🙏
Good luck brotha no one can stop you from getting there but you 💪🏽
Good luck man frfr
@@NateAintScrd appreciate the love man ✊🏼 even though my hoop dreams been dead for a couple years i still wanna be a dawg on the hardwood ya feel me
This dynamic on TTW is unbeatable, such a great podcast
Mike I’m hoping you keeping that promise you made last year, saying you were cutting your hair on the bday 🤣
When is his bday?
@@fazeedkotta2580 late asf my b but June or July
I got yall
42:30
Thank you mike James borego is definitely in the COY conversation
He’s genuinely a good coach niggas were just hating because they were nut hugging Melo so hard 😂
Aye y’all came out at the perfect time. Got my senior day at university today for lacrosse and I needed some easy listening before the game. Best sports podcast period
Lax bro🤙🏼
Can we spam in the comments how much the media is disrespecting the Atlanta hawks? The team is the 4th seed, Trae is averaging the same numbers as Luka (minus the rebounds more assists), Capella is the NBA leading rebounder, the team had 11 3s in a quarter, they are having a streak without Collins Reddish and Hunter. And yet no segments what so ever about the hawks? Even the Bulls had more coverage than the Hawks this season what is this???
Oh and I forgot, the other day the Hawks beat the pelicans by 20 and the story was the 34 points from Zion with no mention of what the hawks did!
Lol mike was afraid to give his order between Ben and DMitch😂
Apparently y’all (at least mike) don’t watch enough Andrew Wiggins. When Mike said he ain’t slowing nobody down that’s definitely not true. For example he clamped Bradley Beal a few weeks ago and holding him to 20 also Zach Lavigne holding him to 12 he also is a top wing defender when it comes to bpg lastly he is one of the reasons the warriors are a top 5 defense in the league
Thank you he’s been an all defenses type player🤦🏾♂️
P gave Jokic a pass when he got bounced by the blazers the year before cause of Jamaal but Giannis don’t get that luxury with Middleton.
Bro Kenny’s professionalism came out in his debate! That was very nice to see kudos kot4q 1m well deserved
1:00:44 Mike LMAOOOO im crying
Convinced D Mitch took Pierre girl in High School 🤣🤣
Off work late Got the kush ready at 3 am for this salute to yall for keeping us tapped in...love from NY
Mike and Kenny might aswell start a podcast with all the stuff they be talking about in the Xbox party😂
what!!!!!!!!!! giannis literally DOMINATED the league two years in arow went to the confernece finals two years ago on a team no one else stepped up when he was doubled and tripled where jokic just got to the finals and murray was consisstantly hitting 50s .... yall are understmating his dominance i swear its like taking any other 5 over shaq cause he cant do it all only layups
jokic went to the conference finals one year and ad was destroying him lmao, they brought up playoff success in this argument which was a big mistake imo
@@revengemoyne7902 You need to check the numbers dude
@@jaredpurcell3982 Jokic averaged 22 7 and 5 against the lakers and P says he dogged the lakers but when Giannis averaged 22 11 and 5 against the heat he’s a playoff choker🤔
a lot of people take playoff success over anything
bro this man P got me dead asf💀💀. on the giannis help defense thing , that was funny asf
42:35 for who came here for the title
You guys don’t watch enough golden state to say you can’t give Wiggins the ball... he leads the second unit as the point guard most nights
Wiggins also is on the list for the most blocks/steals, while not being a big man. He also is one of the leaders in the NBA of when he’s guarding, the offensive player scores the least eFG%- and he’s guarding Kawhi, Lebron, etc and slowing them down
And finally, his ppg down, but his efficiency up a looottttt. I’d rather Wiggins being efficient and get 18ppg than Wiggins just shoot constantly, miss every shot and get 20 points from 40 shots
Ayo P is one hell of a debater. He be putting hella passion into his takes and even if its a bad take, ima go with it purely cause his passion 🤣🤣
I’m hyped for this debate segment! I know it’s gonna be random, but I would love to hear a Luka vs Zion debate (long term potential included)
Lauri vs Kuzma would've been a much better debate
Pee talking to his imaginary homies on the side has me dead. Hyping mike tf up 😂😂
Ayooooo can we get maybe a little segment talking about Fanduel and maybe some winning slips and some funny stories about parlays getting messed up 😭
Mike for Bron vs Pierre for Julius Randle
Kenny for Carmelo vs dmills for Jordan
Do these once an episode
Idea for the next after show: everyone ranks their top 5 albums all time and their favorite song from those albums
Noo
w idea
Leggo mike
I got some debates John Collins vs Jon Issac De’Aaron Fox vs Jamal Murray Ja Morant vs LeMelo Ball
Do you mean rn or long term because I'd change my answer for every single pairing depending on that lol.
Hyped for the next podcast, but as usual intriguing and enjoyable pod, love y'all man
you guys definitely need to do that debate thing way more it's a lot of fun
That debate épisode gonna be GOATED !!!!!!!
Here are 10 matchups that I came up with in case you guys make an episode out these debates:
Brandon Ingram vs. Khris Middleton
Fred VanVleet vs. Mike Conley
Caris LeVert vs. Jordan Clarkson
Evan Fournier vs. Robert Covington
Lauri Markkanen vs. Robert Williams
Kelly Oubre vs. Donte DiVincenzo
Tyler Herro vs. Kyle Kuzma
Norman Powell vs. Dejounte Murray
Mikal Bridges vs. Jerami Grant
Bam Adebayo vs. Karl-Anthony Towns
I would take Giannis over Jokic
Playmaking: Jokic
Finishing: Giannis
Shooting: Jokic
Defense: Giannis
Awards and success: Giannis
pierre went from not caring about the clippers to being a clippers simp in a matter of seconds
Hoping for a speedy recovery for Donovan Mitchell 💪🏽
Bruh can I say that I love the debate portion of the pod this week. Very strong thoughts off the fly from the guys.
The good thing is that you guys increased the NBA portion of the podcast over the after show portions. Don’t get it twisted y’all I love the after show, but I prefer the NBA talk. Keep it going guys.
Crazy that Jarred Vanderbilt can host this podcast and still hoop for the Twolves every day. Big ups bro 💯
Pierre's takes make the pod
Dmills & Mike disrespecting the Heat like crazy lmaoo. The Wizards??
giannis never said he doesnt want to gaurd the other teams best players. he said he did what the coach asked him to do when talking about no gaurding jimmy butler. so if you want to put fault on somebody, put fault ion budenhozer for not putting his players in the right position to win. giannis is that guy on defense.
I’d pick Jokic over Giannis.
It is brain vs. muscle and it is pretty close individually, but Jokic makes his teammates better, and that is why is my pick.
Giannis makes his teammates better too, that's why he had the Bucks with the best record two years in a row with one low level all star teammate
Mike & Kenny’s debate should’ve been Marc Gasol vs Felicio 🤣
Mike was hilarious cus he love kcp so much he was stepping on his toes the entire argument
As a wiz fan, I love this podcast bc y'all stay bigging them up lmao. If the Wizards make the play-in and beat one of: Hornets/Heat/Pacers, I'd be pretty shocked-even if you get huge games from Russ/Brad, they just don't have it on defense to hang with real playoff teams
54:04
no shot y’all taking book and simmons over mitchell. y’all gonna say mitchell is just a scorer what do you think booker is?? you seen what mitchell does in the playoffs where you cant say the same for ben or book. and mitchell is literally averaging more points than booker i just don’t see where booker is the better player and they saying it like it’s not even close
He don’t get no love bro smh 🤦♂️
Ben Simmons over D Mitch is crazzzzzy lmao
I don't think it's that crazy. Ben can do everything but shoot. 6'10" guy that can handle the ball is hard to pass up. The debate should have been Mitchell or Booker.
@@ocdshaggy lmao u crazy.. what has Ben done besides beat the Brooklyn Nets led by DLo, I’ve seen D Mitch take over games his rookie year vs 3 future hofers in the playoffs, just last playoffs he was on a tear with no second option offensively vs a great Nuggets team, swap him and Ben and tell me how that go
@@imfrmnj I'm a a Jazz fan and a Mitchell fan. I would take Mitchell over both. But Ben has everything but shooting at 6'10". I can see why people would be intrigued by that. What I don't see is why most people put Booker over Mitchell. Like you said Mitchell has proven he can carry a team every year ge has been in the league. Can't say the same about Booker.
@@ocdshaggy lol so the debate shouldve been Booker or Ben then.. and what u mean by ‘does everything’ he can pass, he can rebound but scoring is very important in the game of basketball.. also he not no lockdown defender like ppl make him to be or he says he is
@@imfrmnj Ben is not a lock down defender but is still a great defender. It's hard to be a lock down defender in the NBA right now because so much is in favor of the offensive player. The best you could hope for is to make it as difficult as possible for the player.
I really wish they would have gone more in depth on what their thought process was on the Mitchell/ Booker thing. It could have been a good discussion. It's so odd they went with a Young and Mitchell debate.
P ass be spazzin out on mike and D Millz 😂😂
52:31 😂 😂 😂 😂 that still got me rollin 😂 😂 😂
Lets not forget the T Wolves gon have a rookie next year regardless of if they get a top 3 pick or not. They got that boy Leandro Bolmaro.
P gotta be a prophet bro. Steph went crazy but Dray and Baze sold.
42:35 your welcome
They need to yell at p the way he would yell at them. If mike or dmills didn’t have the right ages for these people he would be roasted the heck out of them.
To add to the Jokic vs Giannis debate, Joker scales up in the playoffs especially as a scorer. Not that Giannis doesn’t but we’ve seen Giannis effectiveness dwindled more than Jokic.
I mean Jokic has played 5 playoff series he’s been subpar in like 1 of them. Giannis has played 6 playoff series and he’s been subpar in like 2 of them
Right when Derrick started talking bout lamarcus I looked at ps face I already knew what was gon happen🤣🤣🤣🤣
i seen that tooo😭😭
P got to chill sheesh
Mike making a Paul revere reference a top TTW moment 😂😂
ttw needs its own yt channel
Y’all telling me the best 19 year old ain’t Jayson Tatum? Cmon guys
One of the best pods so far! Much love from Scotland. Mike plz remember Defence exists and is worth like at least 40% of the game.
Pierre be calling Derrick a Homer and saying thibs is coach of the year lol
Why does Mike sound like he's about to start crying sometimes when he's talking?
Lol
because P’s ass is always on his head
Wiggins vs Oubre Debate would be a good one.
Julius Rnadle is MIP 100% the man is going stupid
Jaylen Brown
I have two things to say. I am very hype for Tuesday's show. One of my favorite moments from through the wire was d mill and kb debating nurkic vs gobert. So more of that will be great and second pierre was just extra funny today I don't know if it was just me but he had me laughing so hard. Great show today
Thibs is doing what ppl thought SVG would do
Yessir that next episode finna be 🔥
I don't think people really realize just how much better Wiggins has been on the defensive end for the warriors. Wiggins doesn't fall asleep off-ball nearly as much as he used to (he has occasional moments where he's late still but its a lot better) and on-ball he's giving a lot more effort now and he ain't falling for simple fakes and foul baits. He DOES slow people down (im not saying he's shutting people down but he is making it tough for his match ups) so I thought that was wild when one of them said "Wiggins ain't slowing nothing down"
How it is
P: 65%
KB:15%
Mike:12.5%
Dmil: 7.5%
How ws want it to be
P: 35%
KB: 30%
Mike: 25%
Dmil: 10%
Potential future debates:
Brandon Ingram (Pierre) vs Jaylen Brown (Kenny)
Terry Rozier (Mike) vs Collin sexton (Pierre)
Dame (DMills) vs Kyrie Irving (Mike)
SGA (Kenny) vs Trae Young (Mike)
Derozan (DMills) vs Jrue Holiday (Kenny)
Banger of an episode, love to see it
Having watched every warriors game this season... I disagree with mike about Wiggins “not slowing anyone down”. The dude held a 31 ppg scorer in Bradley Beal to 19 on bad efficiency. He also guarded jaylen brown the entire game and brown shot 8-20 from the field. Slowed kawhi down as well, 24 points on 17 shots in a warriors win. Earlier in the season, Andrew Wiggins led the league in blocks per game by a non big man. His defense is extremely underrated. Also darrick didn’t mention that Wiggins 18 ppg has been with one of his most efficient seasons in his career, and since allstar break Wiggins has averaged 20 ppg on 50% from the field and 45% from 3!!!!!
Mike and Derrick are on somethin about the wizards 😂😂
YALL BOYS DONT MISS!!
Biggest inspiration: Through the wire man
can't wait for next week bruh
Lonzo v Ben would be a great debate
54:16 this man dmills too goofy for sitting back like dat💀
Jokic ain’t getting stopped in the playoffs like Giannis. I’m rolling wit jokic, it’s close tho