I have 4 Daggers. One had insane extractor issues because the slide was milled out of spec but the other 3 don't have a single failure between all 3 of them with a couple thousand rounds (about 500 on 2 and about 1200 on 1) They're all more accurate than I am and I swear to God they modeled and designed the ergos around my hands. Anyone that talks bad about them had a sample size of 1 and got unlucky or they genuinely don't know what they're talking about and are just jumping on the hate train. If you buy a Dagger and make it roughly 200-500 rounds with no issues, you're golden. Edit: To clarify: I'm not saying they're peak gun design. They're manufactured cheaply with mid-tier machining and quality control is less than stellar. NOTHING about them will blow you away. They cost $300 and they feel like $300 but they're accurate, they're reliable and I absolutely trust my life to one for the sole reason that the ergos fit my hand so much better than any other gun I've ever held (which is super anecdotal and unique to me and my hands) and I own Glocks, Caniks, S&Ws and have shot Staccatos, CZs, Sigs etc etc
Utter nonsense. You think you were the only 1 to have an “out of spec” slide? Dimensional tolerance issues is why PSA stuff is cheap. I have 1 that is bran new and still in the case. It’s a replacement pistol that PSA finally replaced once the original was sent back for the 4th time.. I have 2 more variants. SCT frame PSA slide. Dagger frame with an unknown slide. 2 broken PSA strikers. 3 with trigger pins that walk.. these guns are trash
@@PnP-td1mt I've seen major issues on $2,000+ guns, but for some reason they get a pass from the same people that dump on PSA. Look at how bad the H9 release was, yet people are still ball washing Daniel Defense like they descended from the heavens.
Well im a broke man with a family,so yes I have a Dagger S full size. So far over 2,000 rounds no malfunction. So to anyone that hates on PSA is fine but my experience has been positive. So please if you are able to afford 1500 and up guns dont shit on us poor people for embracing a cheqp reliable gun.
@@bartmcalister4957 Good to hear. I've been happy and borderline impressed with all my PSA products. I just haven't got to shoot my dagger as much as I'd like.
The fact that you can buy a Glock gen 3 clone with an optics cut for what you used to be able to get a S&W SD9 for is pretty crazy. For the price, it’s about as good as it gets.
Theres a huge difference in cheap and affordable, in my opinion there is nothing "cheap" about PSA. I own more then a few and they all perform just fine.
I have put together 9 PSA rifle kits for myself family and friends over the past 10 years and they have performed flawlessly. If they would install the barrels on their AR 15s with the proper torque and clock the barrels properly they would kill the competition. Now I will not buy a ak 47 made by PSA they have a long ways to go to address quality issues but hopefully one day they will get that right.
I actually just watched a guy do a complete breakdown and he measured and checked everything. I mean every single thing. What you mentioned is what he said as well.
My buddy just got a upper and lower at different times and the lockup is loose. That was the only flaw I found and it was great. I just got the rm3 or 4 slide to put on a gen 5 19 grip and love it.
my PSA ak-103 with FN barrel has been great. I’ve probably shot less than 2k rounds in it but it’s been problem free with zero malfunctions so far. I’d say they’re GF4 and up are solid AK’s.
@SuperCoopdogg I believe I watched that same video, he broke down 2 ar 15 at the same time. He did say the same thing about them. But I own several ar's from psa and haven't had one issue. But I've never measured any of the specs on my rifles either
I daily a PSA Dagger with trigger mod, barrel mod, recoil spring mod, and aftermarket sights. Sweet shooting gun and ive put thousands of rounds through.
One thing you guys forgot to mention in your video is that when you buy a dagger from psa you get a lifetime warranty I bought my dagger back in march and I love it at the end of the day I think everyone should just buy the gun they want
@@jaredourada I mean if the guns were prone to breaking or having reliability or performance issues than I think it would be a concern. We’ve seen people cuttin on Glocks for a long time now and the warranty never being needed. I also 100% understand what you mean dude. Thanks for commenting sorry if I came off rude that was not my intent.
I own two dagger compacts and three dagger micros. Have not had an issue with any of them. I have these as my carry guns in rotation. The only thing I would suggest for the compacts, is put Timney Alpha triggers in them. One of the compacts is comped, two of the micros are comped. Definitely improves the gun.
CZ P10C brings nutty value to the table and ive seen them lower than daggers (288 doll hairs) Stoeger STR9/9SC was (150 doll hairs) with rebate Classic firearms are selling blem Glock 17 Gen2 for 200 doll hairs lol PSA is also selling a new quality RIA/Tanfoglio Witness CZ75 clone for 220 doll hairs (full size 9mm) Source: I am addicted to budget blasters
STR9 Optic Ready was my entrance to handguns. Over 1000 rounds through it before I sold it to a friend and only like 5 malfunctions. Definitely started an addiction 😅
Making fun of Kahr... The sad part is when the K9 came out around 95, that thing was revolutionary. They dragged their feet for more than 25 years on that same design and got left behind.
I've got around 4k rounds though mine. Only time it hiccupped was when I'd actively try grip changes and have my big stupid fat support hand's palm push up on the slide release and lock it back. Has been completely smooth sailing otherwise. It has yet to fail me, which I couldn't be happier with.
Heads up..I'm a Glock Armorer and work at a small to midsized shop. I've replaced 6 broken firing pins in the daggers over the last year. I would highly recommend purchasing a Glock OEM gen 3 firing pin assembly and installing it prior to relying on these.
I have a Zev trigger on my dagger build, its a dagger frame, Killer inno Velocity slide, radian afterburner/ramjet combo, DPM springs, ambi mag release, magwell. For me that grip is a huge deal, its so much more comfortable in my hand than most other pistols and is the entire reason i built on that lower. So mine is a real frankenglock built on the dagger frame and it works. That said, there WERE some compatibility issues, but they werent with the frame. I have a Johnny Glock trigger that didnt work out, and the Zev Citadel slide didnt work in combination with the Radian combo. so build wasnt without some hiccups but I am really happy with the current result. Use real Glock mags and a lot of issues disappear with stock daggers.
Getting into pew pews after the gucchi glock and roland special hypetrain, and just in time for 80%s and aftermarket frames, it makes me chuckle the amount of money people sank into those big name glocks
Absolutely loved Jake’s “meh this isn’t Gucci” reaction. I’m right there with you bro. Give me gucci all day everyday. Glock finger grooves - one size fits no one.
I have around 900 rounds through mine and haven't had many malfunctions, but when I purchased the Sierra Outdoor 124g hollow points I got around 40-50% failure to feed ! I have Fiocchi Defense Dynamics 124g and it runs flawless ! Great video guys
I bought a slide and a compact frame on 4th July sale. 400 rounds of blazer brass. Had 1 FTF but when I took the cartridge out the bullet was shoved half way down in the shell. So I blame the cheep amo for that. Time will tell
I've bought one. Had the random issues just like you. I've found mine like aluminum cased ammo. Also I have issue with amend2 mags locking slide back with one round left in mag. I bought the PSA Dagger to match my Kel-Tec sub 2000. Both take same mags, same ammo and sure as hell fun to shoot! In the end it is what is till it isn't and even then it still is!
I have had terrible luck with PSA Daggers . Great luck with the rifle. Had 4 Daggers, 2 full size a compact and Micro Dagger C1. There were lots of problems around 250 rd count except Micro , that on started messing up around 1200 rds. I sold 4, kept 1 full size , rebuilt all the internals in lower and upper besides barrel , and runs awesome now 👍 Slide to frame fit was terrible 😳 had to replace 2 extractors also. Lots of FTF and FTE s , this is my experience, and i would never trust my life with it after my experiences. I'm sure you're not interested but I did a video on Daggers aren't Glocks lol
I'm glad you did well in the PSA lottery. Ive owned three of their rifles and two of them had horrendous QC and persistent issues. My friend bought their AR parts kit and it was wildly out of spec.
As someone who has carried a Glock for several years on duty I can honestly say that the dagger is impressive and I own two. That being said I’m not a huge fan of the trigger and continue to carry Glock on and off the clock only due to my level of trust.
I bought a dagger as a “tinker” gun, something to just try different stuff with. Optics cut, rail, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights. No other gestures… $300 shipped to my FFL. I put a $30 Shadow Systems “stock” Gen 3 G19 trigger in it, and it’s much better. Even a little tighter than either of my G17’s. Put in a Glock firing pin because I’ve heard stories of the PSA ones breaking. Another $30, so I’m at $360 now. Put on a used Holosun 407c, cost me $200 shipped… now we’re at $560, and the only thing left to do is replace the recoil spring because the added weight of the optic seems to be enough to slow down the slide juuuust enough that it’s causing weak ejections- and I’m told they don’t spring their optics-cut guns for optics, you need to do that yourself. So that’s another… $30? $590 and it’s a decent shooter… couldn’t get a new Glock with an optics cut for that price. But a month after I bought it, I went out and picked up another Glock. I won’t trust the Dagger until it’s served thousands of rounds over numerous years dutifully.
About 1300+ rounds through mine. Only had 2 ejection issue with the very first 2 mags. No issues afterwards. It's run solid so far. It now has a Cylee red dot, Harrington comp, Apex trigger, handle it grips and a TLR7 light. Shoots very accurate. I would trust my life with this gun but since I'm a smaller stature guy I can't carry this as it's a little larger than I want. It's now my to go pistol home defense gun.
Definitely a pretty cool option and if you're on a pretty tight budget I'd say it's probably the best option out there. It's kind of crazy to see how far PSA's come over the years... I mean they were just a parts manufacturer at one point and now they're becoming one of the giants of the gun manufacturers. I have a couple of the PSA Daggers and a bunch of PSA's other guns like their AR's and AK's. I look at it from the stand point if I'm going to stock up on guns incase of an emergency I'm not going to be handing out Atlas or Staccato handguns and Geissele or KAC AR15s. I can't wait to read the comments because for whatever reason PSA has developed such a love hate relationship in the gun community. They're not my 1st choice or even 2nd and 3rd but they make a good budget gun... Great video as always keepem coming guys!!!
Dude. Thank you for taking the time to type this out. I will 100% agree with what you have to say and your mentality behind PSA. Very good points sir thank you for watching and I’m gonna steal that okay out of your playbook for the zombie apocalypse 👊🏼
I own 3 Daggers and they're great guns. All run well, I've had 2 failures in the first 100 rounds, and then none in the next 600 (between all 3 of them). I trust my life to them as one is my nightstand gun. Thanks for the fair review Chris!
I have a actually tried to run my gen3 G19 slide on the dagger and vice versa. 1. The dagger slide has a hard time going into battery on the glock frame. 2. The Glock slide runs perfect on the dagger frame. My reasoning was trying to get a budget slide with dot on my gen 3 but ended up with 2 pistols
I own five PSA daggers. The cheapest one I built was $180. That being said, I add a hundred bucks to them in trigger parts. I have only had one that i've had problems with. I love PSA daggers. My first cousin three times removed would be proud "John Moses Browning." Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
Gen 4/5 ejector, glock OEM firing pin, and whatever trigger work you want to do, you have a semi gucci glock that's reliable and has better ergos for less than a glock
a used police trade in G19 gen 3 are usually around 350 beans and a used Gen5 G19 is 430 Beans where I am at, it doesn't make sense to get a complete dagger at that price point. However a Compact PSA Dagger frame with a aftermarket slide from ZEV or Hoopers Gun Works and an aftermarket trigger, makes a lot of sense for the cost difference, plus I would trust those companies more with their slides.
i have a Dagger in both compact and crossover. no complaints. price after completions were in the 400 chiklets range. i took a chance on a Buffalo Cartridge Co BRG9 Elite. that was a steal at 230 chiklets. it runs flawless. it's a clone of the Springfield XD9. how much of a clone, i am unsure but it does function well with XD9 mags. i think it would be worthy of a look.
I own several firearms from psa, both rifles and pistols. Every time I pull the trigger on any of them they go bang with zero issues. Psa rock in my opinion
Daggers are more “additions to the arsenal” than anything, but are still nice. I have two, for that reason. For newer owners, I’d recommend a 19X/19M route if you’re looking for something with all the bells and whistles besides MOS cuts, because most new owners won’t buy optics anyways.
I have 2 Daggers with several thousand rounds through them collectively. The compact is my EDC. I've not had first round feed problems, but I did deal with a string of light primer strikes solved with the Ghost heavy striker spring. Now, my printed G19 using the Dagger slide was having terrible feeding problems with the Magpul mags, but the OEM Glock mags solved this. Not sure if this would help in your case, but may be worth a shot.
@jamiedees8223 you obviously missed the analogy. Ruger makes revolvers I like them but I hate all of rugers other pistols. The point is a company like iwi or ruger can make good rifles but not good pistols. Just like iwi rugers pistols overall aren't worth it compared to any of the competition
I have a cw40. It is by *FAR* the most unpleasant pistol I have ever shot in my life. I shoot a lot, and I have carried it quite a bit, but dang is it unpleasant.
Hi Richard just want to get your opinion and why you find the CW40 to be unpleasant I own one myself and I guess my two complaints would be capacity and recoil but I find it very easy to conceal very accurate and reliable I've only had one problem with a failure to eject with range reloads, Thanks.
I have a similar Dagger with about 800-1000 rounds through it. I've had one stove pipe with a Glock 33 round mag and after crawling through mud at woodland brutality. Biggest problem I have with the dagger is the standard mag release is too small
The Tisas PX9 Gen3 is waaaay better than a Dagger. Its like a Canik, Sig, and Walther had a baby and it takes extended p226 mags. Same price point, Insanely accurate, and reliable with everything you could possibly throw at it. Punches way above its weight class. ;)
The PX9 is pretty awesome. Comes with magwell,iwb holster, extra sights (glock style night and fiber optic), different back straps and palm swells, And a 18 and 20 round p226 magazine. Threaded barrel only adds a few bucks to it also. Very underrated just like their 1911's.
I own several Daggers and they run well and are reliable. I also have a Tisas PX9 that you can at times get for under $300. I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s fantastic. Great trigger optics RMR cut several different grips. Two mags, 18 and 20 round. It is by far the best inexpensive striker 9MM on the market.
@@BryanCarty-uq4tkI have a tisas 1911 9mm g I. that works great but I wish had better sights and beavertail. I have used hk for most of the past 30 years but I'm currently looking at the dagger. But I see some concern about the dagger reliability ( seems a lot has been addressed with the roll pins) . Can you point me towards the tisas px model with the rmr and all the other goodies you mentioned at the dagger comparable price? The ones I found around $300 were iron sights. I'm in my early 50s now and sights matter more than ever lol.
Classic firearms has this on sale right now for under $300. Tisas PX-9 Gen 3 Duty - Semi-Auto Pistol - 4.11" Barrel - 9mm - 20 Round Magazine - Optic Cut, Fiber Optic Front Sight, FDE - PX-9DFDE@@jonathanjohnson8656
I bought the full size S frame around 2 years ago. Never bothered to finish the build. I'll never carry a PSA, so at this point I'll probably wait for a good sale and give it to my son as a range toy.
I purchased a Tisas Zigana px9 gen 3, used, for $225 and has been reliable as all hell. New, could be as low as $310 for irons only or $330 for optic cut, rmr footprint.
I like the dagger slide paired with a SCT frame. The SCT frame is blockier and somewhat less ergonomic, but I can get a very solid grip on it from IWB carry very quickly. Great carry combo imo
Sounds like my experience with the PSA Rock. I cleaned it and lubed it really well before testing and I couldn’t shoot one magazine through it. Defective magazine followed. PSA replaced the magazine. I shot it some more. Sometimes the magazine wouldn’t unless I had the slide locked back. I had a couple ejection failures similar to yours. I think the gun was made much better than their magazines. The issues it had were easy to clear. If you practice enough , you could use it, but the track record of my FN Five-Seven was much better with only one feeding issue in the entire time I’ve owned it. I tend to shoot it a lot better as well. I’d feel safer trusting a HK, but if you’re on a budget there’s nothing wrong either picking one up. It’s a great value.
Sar9 I'm telling you that pistol has no quit in it! I have run old ammunition old crusty ammo I found out the range on the ground bad reloads that were not sized correctly it chews them up and spits them out like it likes it! I drug mine through Okefenokee swamp hunting hogs and pulled a hand full of sar and slime and still shot the snake that we walked up on with slime all over the action it's the most robust striker fire pistol i have ever had! and it keeps impressing me year after year!
Mossberg mc2c has my vote. Super odd but ive seen it being sold anywhere from $275-$400. In material quality and manufacturing it is easily worth at least $600. Love mine.
Valid point, i like the honesty, i built my first Dagger, and i love it. Only change im going to make is to change the trigger to either a timney or glock enhance
I bought a PSA ECC upper with threaded barrel and Holosun 407c X2 for $400. I put a Harrington arms matched compensator on and dropped it on a Lone Wolf Dusk 19 frame with overwatch precision trigger.
I just got the rm3 I think,slide on sale and like it a lot. The shipping was horrible the box was smashed and open and a corner of the slide had the finish chipped off. But for optic cut and threaded barrel and lightning cuts it was a good deal and I'm happy with it.
I have 3 daggers and a micro. 1 combat armory and SCT frame as well. This is bad none I've of the best reviews of the dagger. No bullshit! Good info for the pros and cons. Personally I've not experienced any failures from the daggers, but I can't afford to run them hard. Well done. For reference I also have a SS 918 and Gen 3. I greatly prefer the SS flat back strap, but the daggers cost factors greatly into equation.
PSA is gotta be one of the best gun manufacturers in America, the stuff they're making to get everybody involved in guns is phenomenal, they want everybody in America to own a gun, freedom is their name.
Check out the Mossberg MC2SC. Great carry gun. Good capacity, durable, optics ready. Not nearly as snappy as most other guns its size. People sleep on it, but I love mine
Its almost always my assumption that a series of failure to feed from a full loaded magazine is the result of a fouled extractor failing to allow enough space for the round to slide vertically. Ive found that this can happen as well if a hangun has a "sharp" inside edge on the extractor and it bites into the casing.
I understand the purest argument I bought a shadow systems mr920 sold it and switched back to a Glock 19. Trigger on the shadow systems was lacking and the failures were annoying the shit out of me. Shadow systems had some cool upgrades but just couldn’t compete with the factory Glock.
never had the CW40 but I have put 1000 rounds through my CW9 and I've never had a single misfire, failure to feed, or failure to eject. I've also never seen a grown man over 200lbs complain about hand pain shooting a single stack 40 lol
I usually DON'T like the hinged trigger, definitely not the S&W. BUT, I like the Dagger trigger better. I like the frame/grip WAY better. I shoot old school finger on the trigger guard. I like the GLOCK trigger guard a lot better. I love 1911s, but also a HUGE fan boy of GLOCKS. I LIKE the Dagger better. HOWEVER I trust the GLOCK more in durability/reliability. I will and DO carry a Dagger FREQUENTLY now.
Ive got 5 different daggers, shot thousands of rounds through all of them with the magpul mags and oem glock mags, even the 27 round magpul mags and ive never had one malfunction ever. I carry one every day in a crossbreed two clip iwb hybrid holster.
Yeah if you have tons of money and no real family obligations. Otherwise you buy the most reliable gun your budget can afford. Not everyone needs a Gucci gun, they just need a Levi gun, something that is simple, rugged, and reliable.
I could feel Jake's hatred for cheap plastic guns trough the screen.
It's not even that, it's his hatred for something that isn't gucci or isn't a 19/2011 😂
lol no hate. I mean, a little
😂😂😂😂
How to piss people off: 1. Say something bad about PSA. 2. Say something good about PSA.
This is the world we live in
Hard AF agree/ disagree.
1000000%
say something bad about glock, and really watch the fan boys go nuts.
ROFLMAO !!!!!! 🙂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ............ so true !!!!!!
It's like watching an ATF agent describe his favorite dog.
Medium rare?
Thanks I think?
@@handroids1981ATF definitely prefers rare dog… the bloodier the better. 😑
Jake acts like filming this video causes him physical pain. 😂
A lil
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe this is during the No Sleep 30+ hours video making time-line. Good video, sleep deprived Jake shoots almost as good as normal Jake.
@@handroids1981 that makes sense. Lol. I'd probably be the same way.
Cause it does 😂😂😂
Czp10c is the best gun in a low price right now
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I don't have the c but I have the F and for 400 bucks with an optic cut is stellar
Real asf 💯
Got mine for $330. Great pistol.
@@Jrtowns1 where did you find it that cheap?
I have 4 Daggers. One had insane extractor issues because the slide was milled out of spec but the other 3 don't have a single failure between all 3 of them with a couple thousand rounds (about 500 on 2 and about 1200 on 1)
They're all more accurate than I am and I swear to God they modeled and designed the ergos around my hands.
Anyone that talks bad about them had a sample size of 1 and got unlucky or they genuinely don't know what they're talking about and are just jumping on the hate train.
If you buy a Dagger and make it roughly 200-500 rounds with no issues, you're golden.
Edit: To clarify: I'm not saying they're peak gun design. They're manufactured cheaply with mid-tier machining and quality control is less than stellar. NOTHING about them will blow you away. They cost $300 and they feel like $300 but they're accurate, they're reliable and I absolutely trust my life to one for the sole reason that the ergos fit my hand so much better than any other gun I've ever held (which is super anecdotal and unique to me and my hands) and I own Glocks, Caniks, S&Ws and have shot Staccatos, CZs, Sigs etc etc
Can't *really say you're golden after 500 rounds without issues as Chris literally explained having weird issues after 500 rounds lol
Utter nonsense. You think you were the only 1 to have an “out of spec” slide? Dimensional tolerance issues is why PSA stuff is cheap.
I have 1 that is bran new and still in the case. It’s a replacement pistol that PSA finally replaced once the original was sent back for the 4th time..
I have 2 more variants. SCT frame PSA slide. Dagger frame with an unknown slide.
2 broken PSA strikers.
3 with trigger pins that walk..
these guns are trash
@@PnP-td1mt I've seen major issues on $2,000+ guns, but for some reason they get a pass from the same people that dump on PSA. Look at how bad the H9 release was, yet people are still ball washing Daniel Defense like they descended from the heavens.
Sounds like a Smig
I have over 3k rounds on my Dagger, zero issues. 🤷♂️
Sample size 1/1.
I really appreciate Jake showing the bare minimum of enthusiasm for this. He’s my spirit animal.
Seems this video was filmed during him staying awake for 36 hours for another video they posted a little while ago. He probably was running in fumes 😂
@@Booseman51wow dude you nailed that timing hahaha 😂
Well im a broke man with a family,so yes I have a Dagger S full size. So far over 2,000 rounds no malfunction. So to anyone that hates on PSA is fine but my experience has been positive. So please if you are able to afford 1500 and up guns dont shit on us poor people for embracing a cheqp reliable gun.
Not cheap! affordable because they are for america and the american people!
Did you change out the firing pin for Glock or is it stock?
Fuck all the haters! lol
@@KylerLikesGuns stock
@@bartmcalister4957 Good to hear. I've been happy and borderline impressed with all my PSA products. I just haven't got to shoot my dagger as much as I'd like.
The fact that you can buy a Glock gen 3 clone with an optics cut for what you used to be able to get a S&W SD9 for is pretty crazy. For the price, it’s about as good as it gets.
What did you expect having 1911 guys review a glock clone lol but this review went waaay better than I expected lol
Well the guy leading the review is a Glock guy haha
@@1911syndicate 🤣😂
Jake a 1911 guys I’m a Glock guy
Theres a huge difference in cheap and affordable, in my opinion there is nothing "cheap" about PSA. I own more then a few and they all perform just fine.
I have put together 9 PSA rifle kits for myself family and friends over the past 10 years and they have performed flawlessly. If they would install the barrels on their AR 15s with the proper torque and clock the barrels properly they would kill the competition. Now I will not buy a ak 47 made by PSA they have a long ways to go to address quality issues but hopefully one day they will get that right.
I actually just watched a guy do a complete breakdown and he measured and checked everything. I mean every single thing. What you mentioned is what he said as well.
My buddy just got a upper and lower at different times and the lockup is loose.
That was the only flaw I found and it was great.
I just got the rm3 or 4 slide to put on a gen 5 19 grip and love it.
my PSA ak-103 with FN barrel has been great. I’ve probably shot less than 2k rounds in it but it’s been problem free with zero malfunctions so far. I’d say they’re GF4 and up are solid AK’s.
@SuperCoopdogg I believe I watched that same video, he broke down 2 ar 15 at the same time. He did say the same thing about them. But I own several ar's from psa and haven't had one issue. But I've never measured any of the specs on my rifles either
I bought one for my 14 year old grandson. Wasn't sure what to expect for $250 but, a year in and no issues at all.
@@BrooksRichardson-j3o the kid likes to shoot.
Based grandad
@@FilthyGoyim 😁 I have 9 grandsons so far. I'm building an army! LOL
Hahaha good for you man! 👍
Kid has the best granddaddy ever 🤝
I daily a PSA Dagger with trigger mod, barrel mod, recoil spring mod, and aftermarket sights.
Sweet shooting gun and ive put thousands of rounds through.
One thing you guys forgot to mention in your video is that when you buy a dagger from psa you get a lifetime warranty I bought my dagger back in march and I love it at the end of the day I think everyone should just buy the gun they want
Dang dude you’re 100% correct. That was in my notes and forgot to say it I’m sorry
Ya if you send your Glock out to get it all milled up, warranty is gone.
@@jaredourada correct but it’s always been that way
@@Chrisblau ya, I'm just pointing out that you pay out the ass just to void your warranty. Kinda crazy.
@@jaredourada I mean if the guns were prone to breaking or having reliability or performance issues than I think it would be a concern. We’ve seen people cuttin on Glocks for a long time now and the warranty never being needed. I also 100% understand what you mean dude. Thanks for commenting sorry if I came off rude that was not my intent.
I own two dagger compacts and three dagger micros. Have not had an issue with any of them. I have these as my carry guns in rotation. The only thing I would suggest for the compacts, is put Timney Alpha triggers in them. One of the compacts is comped, two of the micros are comped. Definitely improves the gun.
Truly just a good honest review on the dagger.
Took my dagger micro c1 (ported g48) out for the first shots last week. Smooth as butter
CZ P10C brings nutty value to the table and ive seen them lower than daggers (288 doll hairs)
Stoeger STR9/9SC was (150 doll hairs) with rebate
Classic firearms are selling blem Glock 17 Gen2 for 200 doll hairs lol
PSA is also selling a new quality RIA/Tanfoglio Witness CZ75 clone for 220 doll hairs (full size 9mm)
Source: I am addicted to budget blasters
All great pistols .
STR9 Optic Ready was my entrance to handguns. Over 1000 rounds through it before I sold it to a friend and only like 5 malfunctions. Definitely started an addiction 😅
"Well, good for you" is Jake's way of saying "you wasted YOUR money"...lol.
Making fun of Kahr... The sad part is when the K9 came out around 95, that thing was revolutionary. They dragged their feet for more than 25 years on that same design and got left behind.
My dagger cost $250. It is what it is, a cheap gun. It works and that’s about it.
I've got around 4k rounds though mine. Only time it hiccupped was when I'd actively try grip changes and have my big stupid fat support hand's palm push up on the slide release and lock it back. Has been completely smooth sailing otherwise. It has yet to fail me, which I couldn't be happier with.
Same, I've changed my spring weight to run subs suppressed, works good. Mine was $257 shipped
Now do the new Sabre dagger. It's the same price as a stock glock. But has all the features!!!
Heads up..I'm a Glock Armorer and work at a small to midsized shop. I've replaced 6 broken firing pins in the daggers over the last year. I would highly recommend purchasing a Glock OEM gen 3 firing pin assembly and installing it prior to relying on these.
Pro tip
Seems to be a common thread in the comments. Mine has worked fine thus far but after seeing all the comments about that being an issue I’ll replace it
Thoughts on the brownell upper parts kit? It has a billet firing pin.
@@rayparker9163 no experience and didn’t even know about it till now. I’ll be checking into that since it seems that is this guns Achilles heel
Should you get a gunsmith to install the new firing pin or is it something easy enough for anyone to do?
I have a Zev trigger on my dagger build, its a dagger frame, Killer inno Velocity slide, radian afterburner/ramjet combo, DPM springs, ambi mag release, magwell. For me that grip is a huge deal, its so much more comfortable in my hand than most other pistols and is the entire reason i built on that lower. So mine is a real frankenglock built on the dagger frame and it works. That said, there WERE some compatibility issues, but they werent with the frame. I have a Johnny Glock trigger that didnt work out, and the Zev Citadel slide didnt work in combination with the Radian combo. so build wasnt without some hiccups but I am really happy with the current result. Use real Glock mags and a lot of issues disappear with stock daggers.
Never had a issue with my Dagger,but I've never ran anything but oem glock mags.
Getting into pew pews after the gucchi glock and roland special hypetrain, and just in time for 80%s and aftermarket frames, it makes me chuckle the amount of money people sank into those big name glocks
Absolutely loved Jake’s “meh this isn’t Gucci” reaction. I’m right there with you bro. Give me gucci all day everyday.
Glock finger grooves - one size fits no one.
Tisas is really good. I don’t know if they still fall under budget friendly anymore though.
I have around 900 rounds through mine and haven't had many malfunctions, but when I purchased the Sierra Outdoor 124g hollow points I got around 40-50% failure to feed ! I have Fiocchi Defense Dynamics 124g and it runs flawless ! Great video guys
Until you get to 5k 😂
I bought a slide and a compact frame on 4th July sale. 400 rounds of blazer brass. Had 1 FTF but when I took the cartridge out the bullet was shoved half way down in the shell. So I blame the cheep amo for that. Time will tell
@@phillok8959 yeah ... I think the ramp when new (under 800-1k rounds) is very finicky ... My Blazer Brass 124g goes super well too
I've bought one. Had the random issues just like you. I've found mine like aluminum cased ammo. Also I have issue with amend2 mags locking slide back with one round left in mag. I bought the PSA Dagger to match my Kel-Tec sub 2000. Both take same mags, same ammo and sure as hell fun to shoot! In the end it is what is till it isn't and even then it still is!
dude that shoots his PSA dagger once a year: "I've never had a problem with mine! 10,000 rounds and no issues!"
Look forward to Chris back on the channel more regularly
ALWAYS love getting a new 1911 video.
Thank you we appreciate you
I'd say the Beretta APX A1 is better cheap gun but this is cool.
No better combo of hosts on any UA-cam channel. Period.
Thanks brother
Hahaha very kind of you dude
I have had terrible luck with PSA Daggers . Great luck with the rifle. Had 4 Daggers, 2 full size a compact and Micro Dagger C1. There were lots of problems around 250 rd count except Micro , that on started messing up around 1200 rds. I sold 4, kept 1 full size , rebuilt all the internals in lower and upper besides barrel , and runs awesome now 👍 Slide to frame fit was terrible 😳 had to replace 2 extractors also. Lots of FTF and FTE s , this is my experience, and i would never trust my life with it after my experiences. I'm sure you're not interested but I did a video on Daggers aren't Glocks lol
For what’s it worth, the Irish Panther would spend the extra money on the OEM Glock.
@@1911syndicate it was still cheaper to buy Dagger and rebuild with gen 3 oem parts , but that Slide to frame is still terrible lol
Always buy the upper and lower separately at PSA. That gun on sale-almost always on sale- is like $250 total. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Sorry Jake, you could always cry us a river? I got a kayak that needs some action! Lol 😂
Best cheap gun right now is the Beretta APX 1 compact. After the rebate, taxes, and shipping, it was $260.
Oh, and after the $45 FFL transfer
Eh I prefer my dagger
I'm glad you did well in the PSA lottery. Ive owned three of their rifles and two of them had horrendous QC and persistent issues. My friend bought their AR parts kit and it was wildly out of spec.
@1911syndicate Jake, as a fellow lefty, if you ride your trigger finger on top of the slide release, you can "bump" to chamber a round.
As someone who has carried a Glock for several years on duty I can honestly say that the dagger is impressive and I own two. That being said I’m not a huge fan of the trigger and continue to carry Glock on and off the clock only due to my level of trust.
I bought a dagger as a “tinker” gun, something to just try different stuff with. Optics cut, rail, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights. No other gestures… $300 shipped to my FFL.
I put a $30 Shadow Systems “stock” Gen 3 G19 trigger in it, and it’s much better. Even a little tighter than either of my G17’s. Put in a Glock firing pin because I’ve heard stories of the PSA ones breaking. Another $30, so I’m at $360 now. Put on a used Holosun 407c, cost me $200 shipped… now we’re at $560, and the only thing left to do is replace the recoil spring because the added weight of the optic seems to be enough to slow down the slide juuuust enough that it’s causing weak ejections- and I’m told they don’t spring their optics-cut guns for optics, you need to do that yourself. So that’s another… $30?
$590 and it’s a decent shooter… couldn’t get a new Glock with an optics cut for that price.
But a month after I bought it, I went out and picked up another Glock. I won’t trust the Dagger until it’s served thousands of rounds over numerous years dutifully.
About 1300+ rounds through mine. Only had 2 ejection issue with the very first 2 mags. No issues afterwards. It's run solid so far. It now has a Cylee red dot, Harrington comp, Apex trigger, handle it grips and a TLR7 light. Shoots very accurate. I would trust my life with this gun but since I'm a smaller stature guy I can't carry this as it's a little larger than I want. It's now my to go pistol home defense gun.
Definitely a pretty cool option and if you're on a pretty tight budget I'd say it's probably the best option out there. It's kind of crazy to see how far PSA's come over the years... I mean they were just a parts manufacturer at one point and now they're becoming one of the giants of the gun manufacturers. I have a couple of the PSA Daggers and a bunch of PSA's other guns like their AR's and AK's. I look at it from the stand point if I'm going to stock up on guns incase of an emergency I'm not going to be handing out Atlas or Staccato handguns and Geissele or KAC AR15s. I can't wait to read the comments because for whatever reason PSA has developed such a love hate relationship in the gun community. They're not my 1st choice or even 2nd and 3rd but they make a good budget gun... Great video as always keepem coming guys!!!
Dude. Thank you for taking the time to type this out. I will 100% agree with what you have to say and your mentality behind PSA. Very good points sir thank you for watching and I’m gonna steal that okay out of your playbook for the zombie apocalypse 👊🏼
I own 3 Daggers and they're great guns. All run well, I've had 2 failures in the first 100 rounds, and then none in the next 600 (between all 3 of them). I trust my life to them as one is my nightstand gun. Thanks for the fair review Chris!
I have a actually tried to run my gen3 G19 slide on the dagger and vice versa.
1. The dagger slide has a hard time going into battery on the glock frame.
2. The Glock slide runs perfect on the dagger frame.
My reasoning was trying to get a budget slide with dot on my gen 3 but ended up with 2 pistols
I own five PSA daggers. The cheapest one I built was $180. That being said, I add a hundred bucks to them in trigger parts. I have only had one that i've had problems with. I love PSA daggers. My first cousin three times removed would be proud "John Moses Browning." Love the videos. Keep up the good work.
CZ p10C is the best low price gun ever!!!
If you buy your shirts- 8 in a bag.
Gen 4/5 ejector, glock OEM firing pin, and whatever trigger work you want to do, you have a semi gucci glock that's reliable and has better ergos for less than a glock
a used police trade in G19 gen 3 are usually around 350 beans and a used Gen5 G19 is 430 Beans where I am at, it doesn't make sense to get a complete dagger at that price point.
However a Compact PSA Dagger frame with a aftermarket slide from ZEV or Hoopers Gun Works and an aftermarket trigger, makes a lot of sense for the cost difference, plus I would trust those companies more with their slides.
The rear sight being forward is a godsend in AIWB.
i have a Dagger in both compact and crossover. no complaints. price after completions were in the 400 chiklets range.
i took a chance on a Buffalo Cartridge Co BRG9 Elite. that was a steal at 230 chiklets. it runs flawless. it's a clone of the Springfield XD9. how much of a clone, i am unsure but it does function well with XD9 mags. i think it would be worthy of a look.
Dagger, ruger security, beretta apx, canik tp9, etc, etc, etc. so many good cheap options out there nowadays
I own several firearms from psa, both rifles and pistols. Every time I pull the trigger on any of them they go bang with zero issues. Psa rock in my opinion
I got a tisas zigana F years ago. All metal construction. Been solid so far. Got it from classic for $225. Best value ive found so far.
Plethora.....Plethora.......I like this word Plethora.
I got one for like 2 fiddy. Just to have. No issues but would i carry it? Absolutely not. A walther or cz is like 100 more and i wouldnt worry a bit.
Daggers are more “additions to the arsenal” than anything, but are still nice. I have two, for that reason. For newer owners, I’d recommend a 19X/19M route if you’re looking for something with all the bells and whistles besides MOS cuts, because most new owners won’t buy optics anyways.
I have 2 Daggers with several thousand rounds through them collectively. The compact is my EDC. I've not had first round feed problems, but I did deal with a string of light primer strikes solved with the Ghost heavy striker spring. Now, my printed G19 using the Dagger slide was having terrible feeding problems with the Magpul mags, but the OEM Glock mags solved this. Not sure if this would help in your case, but may be worth a shot.
Was that a Seiko SNJ025 Arnie ? Jake is a man of the people . Guns and watches for the poors. Nice job. Well , I could take or leave the Dagger.
Good eye dude. He just got that and is in love with it. Such a cool watch
IWI Masada and Beretta APX can be found at or under $300
Iwi isn't good. And I'd rather have a cz p10c than any of the three
@@John_439what is wrong with IWI?? They make amazing guns. Examples: Uzi, Galil, Tavor, etc. I really like the Masada slim.
@jamiedees8223 they make decent rifles. It's like ruger their rifles are ok or good but I'd only trust their revolvers when it comes to pistols.
@@John_439 IWI doesn’t make revolvers.
@jamiedees8223 you obviously missed the analogy. Ruger makes revolvers I like them but I hate all of rugers other pistols. The point is a company like iwi or ruger can make good rifles but not good pistols. Just like iwi rugers pistols overall aren't worth it compared to any of the competition
I have a cw40. It is by *FAR* the most unpleasant pistol I have ever shot in my life. I shoot a lot, and I have carried it quite a bit, but dang is it unpleasant.
Hi Richard just want to get your opinion and why you find the CW40 to be unpleasant I own one myself and I guess my two complaints would be capacity and recoil but I find it very easy to conceal very accurate and reliable I've only had one problem with a failure to eject with range reloads, Thanks.
I have a similar Dagger with about 800-1000 rounds through it. I've had one stove pipe with a Glock 33 round mag and after crawling through mud at woodland brutality. Biggest problem I have with the dagger is the standard mag release is too small
The Tisas PX9 Gen3 is waaaay better than a Dagger. Its like a Canik, Sig, and Walther had a baby and it takes extended p226 mags. Same price point, Insanely accurate, and reliable with everything you could possibly throw at it. Punches way above its weight class. ;)
The PX9 is pretty awesome. Comes with magwell,iwb holster, extra sights (glock style night and fiber optic), different back straps and palm swells, And a 18 and 20 round p226 magazine. Threaded barrel only adds a few bucks to it also. Very underrated just like their 1911's.
Can confirm. Mine had some issues with 115 gr but I read somewhere that it was designed to eat 124. Once I swapped it that was a smooth shooter.
I own several Daggers and they run well and are reliable. I also have a Tisas PX9 that you can at times get for under $300. I agree with you wholeheartedly. It’s fantastic. Great trigger optics RMR cut several different grips. Two mags, 18 and 20 round. It is by far the best inexpensive striker 9MM on the market.
@@BryanCarty-uq4tkI have a tisas 1911 9mm g I. that works great but I wish had better sights and beavertail. I have used hk for most of the past 30 years but I'm currently looking at the dagger. But I see some concern about the dagger reliability ( seems a lot has been addressed with the roll pins) . Can you point me towards the tisas px model with the rmr and all the other goodies you mentioned at the dagger comparable price? The ones I found around $300 were iron sights. I'm in my early 50s now and sights matter more than ever lol.
Classic firearms has this on sale right now for under $300.
Tisas PX-9 Gen 3 Duty - Semi-Auto Pistol - 4.11" Barrel - 9mm - 20 Round Magazine - Optic Cut, Fiber Optic Front Sight, FDE - PX-9DFDE@@jonathanjohnson8656
Love that you are watch guys too… I see that Tudor and that Arnie…
I bought the full size S frame around 2 years ago. Never bothered to finish the build. I'll never carry a PSA, so at this point I'll probably wait for a good sale and give it to my son as a range toy.
I purchased a Tisas Zigana px9 gen 3, used, for $225 and has been reliable as all hell. New, could be as low as $310 for irons only or $330 for optic cut, rmr footprint.
I like the dagger slide paired with a SCT frame. The SCT frame is blockier and somewhat less ergonomic, but I can get a very solid grip on it from IWB carry very quickly. Great carry combo imo
A- Damn. Value is weighted heavy here.
Sounds like my experience with the PSA Rock. I cleaned it and lubed it really well before testing and I couldn’t shoot one magazine through it. Defective magazine followed. PSA replaced the magazine. I shot it some more. Sometimes the magazine wouldn’t unless I had the slide locked back. I had a couple ejection failures similar to yours. I think the gun was made much better than their magazines. The issues it had were easy to clear. If you practice enough , you could use it, but the track record of my FN Five-Seven was much better with only one feeding issue in the entire time I’ve owned it. I tend to shoot it a lot better as well. I’d feel safer trusting a HK, but if you’re on a budget there’s nothing wrong either picking one up. It’s a great value.
Jake is not a happy camper...he shot it and gave it right back, lol!!!
Such a brat dude. Like bratty little kid
Canik. A few under $500.
I have a tp9 sfx. I love it, it was about $550. out the door.
Sar9 I'm telling you that pistol has no quit in it! I have run old ammunition old crusty ammo I found out the range on the ground bad reloads that were not sized correctly it chews them up and spits them out like it likes it! I drug mine through Okefenokee swamp hunting hogs and pulled a hand full of sar and slime and still shot the snake that we walked up on with slime all over the action it's the most robust striker fire pistol i have ever had! and it keeps impressing me year after year!
I always clean up my new ones and they run great.
Mossberg mc2c has my vote. Super odd but ive seen it being sold anywhere from $275-$400. In material quality and manufacturing it is easily worth at least $600. Love mine.
Valid point, i like the honesty, i built my first Dagger, and i love it. Only change im going to make is to change the trigger to either a timney or glock enhance
Tisas PX9 Duty. Base model without optic cut is around $ 3:45 280.00. softer shooting than the Dagger.
LOL wearing the same watch right now as the guy in the camouflage hoodie. The Seiko Arnie. Cheap watch like the PSA dagger... but I like em both.
I bought a PSA ECC upper with threaded barrel and Holosun 407c X2 for $400. I put a Harrington arms matched compensator on and dropped it on a Lone Wolf Dusk 19 frame with overwatch precision trigger.
I just got the rm3 I think,slide on sale and like it a lot.
The shipping was horrible the box was smashed and open and a corner of the slide had the finish chipped off.
But for optic cut and threaded barrel and lightning cuts it was a good deal and I'm happy with it.
Love my daggers. Complete Frame was $49, complete upper was $139
My dagger was 250 came with 5 15 round mags and 5 28 round mags I love mine
I have 3 daggers and a micro. 1 combat armory and SCT frame as well. This is bad none I've of the best reviews of the dagger. No bullshit!
Good info for the pros and cons. Personally I've not experienced any failures from the daggers, but I can't afford to run them hard. Well done.
For reference I also have a SS 918 and Gen 3. I greatly prefer the SS flat back strap, but the daggers cost factors greatly into equation.
PSA is gotta be one of the best gun manufacturers in America, the stuff they're making to get everybody involved in guns is phenomenal, they want everybody in America to own a gun, freedom is their name.
LOL stop
Check out the Mossberg MC2SC. Great carry gun. Good capacity, durable, optics ready. Not nearly as snappy as most other guns its size. People sleep on it, but I love mine
I’ve been waiting on this from you guys.
You've gotta get a NERD holster. The absolute best for the Dagger.
"put that down and wash your hands!.. i'm disgusted!" lol
CZ P10 C/F is sub $300 and is by far one of the best ones under $1000 imo, I love the ergos and accuracy.
I would like to know what the ramp looks like on the barrel. I have seen guns in the past have ftf then the ramp was smoothed and fixed the issue.
Its almost always my assumption that a series of failure to feed from a full loaded magazine is the result of a fouled extractor failing to allow enough space for the round to slide vertically. Ive found that this can happen as well if a hangun has a "sharp" inside edge on the extractor and it bites into the casing.
Ruger security 9 compact in my opinion. But I did do about 150 bucks in upgrades that includes a a trigger, lighter recoil spring and night sights
I understand the purest argument I bought a shadow systems mr920 sold it and switched back to a Glock 19. Trigger on the shadow systems was lacking and the failures were annoying the shit out of me. Shadow systems had some cool upgrades but just couldn’t compete with the factory Glock.
Fair and impartial Vid, quite unlike MSM.
“Two Thumbs UP”!
never had the CW40 but I have put 1000 rounds through my CW9 and I've never had a single misfire, failure to feed, or failure to eject. I've also never seen a grown man over 200lbs complain about hand pain shooting a single stack 40 lol
I usually DON'T like the hinged trigger, definitely not the S&W.
BUT, I like the Dagger trigger better.
I like the frame/grip WAY better.
I shoot old school finger on the trigger guard. I like the GLOCK trigger guard a lot better.
I love 1911s, but also a HUGE fan boy of GLOCKS.
I LIKE the Dagger better.
HOWEVER I trust the GLOCK more in durability/reliability.
I will and DO carry a Dagger FREQUENTLY now.
Yep as a Glock fan I want one. Awesome video as well guys
Thank you for watching sir and thank you for commenting. Dagger is still running strong
Got 18,600 rounds through my dagger. It's broken 2 strikers. One at 2500 rounds and the other around 11k. That's been the issues I've had.
The first thing I do now, when buying a Glock clone, is replace the striker with cnc striker out of a solid block of steel.
@@CMB21497 Yep. I learned my lesson!! I'm doing the same now.
Ive got 5 different daggers, shot thousands of rounds through all of them with the magpul mags and oem glock mags, even the 27 round magpul mags and ive never had one malfunction ever. I carry one every day in a crossbreed two clip iwb hybrid holster.
When you’re buying something to protect yourself and family with, the price is the last thing to worry about.
Yeah if you have tons of money and no real family obligations. Otherwise you buy the most reliable gun your budget can afford. Not everyone needs a Gucci gun, they just need a Levi gun, something that is simple, rugged, and reliable.
@@seektruth3307 I don’t buy Gucci guns because they’ve been tampered with. I have a child and plenty of bills but I still refuse to buy a cheap gun.
@@seektruth3307a stock Glock isn’t what I would call a Gucci gun
Jake should try and contain has exuberance and excitement in handling the firearm.
lol
Sheesh, pelagos and Seiko Arnie, good taste gents.
Thanks!
Haha thank you sir. Jake just snagged that Arnie and it’s such a cool watch