Preparing an Oak Barrel for the First Use
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2017
- Before using an oak barrel for the first time, it is important to hydrate the wood. The barrel will leak until the wood swells and seals up which can take some time. Here is a quick video on the steps to hydrate a wine barrel.
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Hey thanks for your videos. I find them very helpful as I'm very new in wine making at home. I've already learnt a lot from your videos. If you could show how you would make something like a lemon wine. That would be brilliant. Thanks again.
Thank you! I will probably do a lemon wine soon in the off season. We have made a couple and had very good results in the past
Cool that will be good if you do. Just tried a new siphon method from your video and works great.
Great content! Curious how long you kept the first wine in the barrel and your thoughts on how the barrel influenced the wine vs your original expectations.
Do you have to do the same for a bourbon barrel?
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If i have a tiny 5 Liter barrel and not a big barrel, can i just submerge it in a bath of water? so it is filled and coated with water all around ?
Like to see a video of cleaning it when the wine is done.
My plan is to take that wine out when I have another wine ready to go in, so there will be no lag in between. As long as the wine coming out is healthy, I will just rinse the barrel out. If I have to wait much more than a couple days I will either have to make a storage solution of water, acid and SO2 or burn sulfur wicks in it monthly to keep the wine in the wood from spoiling. They say if you were to buy a used barrel you smell inside it and it smells like a wine you would drink, it is good to go. If it smells like vinegar, nail polish remover, sherry, etc then you will have your hands full trying to bring it back to health...
how long will you keep wine in that for? how long can you without worrying about over oaking? I'd love to get one they look so cool!
Being a fresh barrel, it will probably stay in there for around 6 months. If it were a 59 gallon you could more easily push for a year. A year makes life a lot easier since you can fill it up with new wine as soon as you take last year's out of it. I'll keep a pretty close eye on it after 4 or 5 months
good to know thanks!
Nearing the 3 month mark, hows it coming along?
You can’t leave it in there for years?
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Are barrels that are made from other woods like birch, pine, or maple ever used? I'm from a Greek family, and I know Retsina is made by adding pine resin, but was thinking maybe something like that would get a flavor similar but more palatable to non-Greeks
The main reason oak was historically used is it's ability to seal tightly as a barrel. Other woods will generally leak through the pores or passages in the wood. And now we have become accustomed to the oak as a compliment to wine. Pine resin was one of the oldest preservatives used in wine going back probably 8000 years or so. In those old wines it may have actually been more of the dominant flavor and helped to cover up the bad oxidation. I have heard of people experimenting with other woods now that we have the ability to store wine in glass or stainless and add wood cubes or chips but I have not yet heard of much success. Red oak smells like cat pee in wine. Many woods would just be overly bitter. I'd suggest if experimenting with other woods to treat them like oak and let them season for two to three years to mellow out the green tannins and then toast accordingly. I think it could be a good thing but the biggest hurdle would be our expectations of what good wine "should" taste like.
Why wouldn't you also spray the outside of the barrel?
Ok I have 2 questions.
1. Where can I buy a barrel like this?
2. Does using a barrel to store/age the wine actually age it faster?
1. Morewine, which is a winemaking retailer.
2. No, a complex reaction takes place you cannot speed up aging.
My barrel maker said that pouring water from the outside can open the staves and that is not a recommended method.
I am new to the winemaking but an all timer at brewing in the distilling
What are your suggestions on where to buy fresh grapes for a dry red wine that’s all my neighbors drink. Lol
And if you have any other pointers for me please share I watched just about everyone of your video 👍
I would put a picture of my equipment on here but I can’t.
Thanks again
Dave
Nice! Usually somewhere that brings in fresh produce for the grocery stores can get wine grapes when they are in season. I go to a place called consumer produce in Pittsburgh. When buying red wine grapes, you want them to be small (not much bigger than a blueberry), dark, and with brown seeds. If you want to get more technical, a good starting pH would be about 3.5 or 3.55 and you want the sugar in the 24 to 27 brix range. A lot of times, the grapes can be over cropped and under ripe. Big berries make wimpy wines since the skin to juice ratio is off. Green seeds have herbaceous tannins which can take over the wine.
Thanks you so much Rick.
Hello Rick
I'm going all out I'm buying some Marquette vines for growing in my Reagan witch would be Wisconsin .
Will see how that pans out.....
My question to you is how do degas a wine. I've Been reading about it
and should be done..?
Thanks
That's awesome! You really shouldn't need to degas unless you plan to bottle the wine very young (less than 6 months). In that case, I have a little hand pump brake bleeder tool that I ran through a drilled stopper. You can pull a vacuum in the carboy this way and allow it to bubble out over about 5 minutes. I don't like the idea of those wine whips because of the risk of adding a huge amount of oxygen if your wine really isn't that gassy. In a barrel, degassing is especially not a problem. If you use a solid silicone stopper in the barrel after malolactic fermentation has stopped, it will create a vacuum inside as some water and alcohol slowly evaporates through the wood.
OK Thanks Again for your advice.
Dose filling it with water effect the character of the barrel?
no
Where did you buy that 30 galón barrel ? How much $
I got it from More Wine Making. They are not cheap though. That one was around $450. They have the Vadai barrels for closer to $375 for 30 gallons.
@@TheHomeWinemakingChannel They are now $600
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@@magacop5180 Oak barrels are one of the most expensive aspects of wineamaking you are looking at around $660 for american oak and around 1200-1700 for a french oak barrel
OHHHH that's what'll I'll have to do with my oak
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