The Funded Trader and Why They Shut Down Permanently

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  • The fallout in the prop trading space is continuing. with The funded trader going out of business.
    After FNG exclusively reported earlier this month that prop trading firm The Funded Trader has stopped making payouts to its clients.
    If you were affected by the funded trader preventing payouts and are still waiting to get your money please fill out the form on this page. Funded Pro is negotiating with the CEO of the funded trader to help people get the money owed to them.
    You can find the form here
    funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 279

  • @lpsminecrafter-js6ix
    @lpsminecrafter-js6ix 2 місяці тому +159

    So all comes down to conclusion...find a broker and start small with your own money.

  • @RebeccaKpami-dg7cn
    @RebeccaKpami-dg7cn 2 місяці тому +75

    If they were making $10million a month, where did all the money go?

  • @adrianc086
    @adrianc086 2 місяці тому +22

    This is the end of all prop firms, alot of them are shutting down. 90% of them don't have contracts with meta quotes anymore and they have lame playforms with huge slippage etc.. The prop firm "dream" is over guys.. Stick to your own money and save up, trade on your own properly. Thats my advice!

  • @tomwebb9777
    @tomwebb9777 2 місяці тому +41

    Everyone knows how the game is played...take your winnings and pay down your debt and open up your own trading account and fund it with the prop firm money.

  • @jonathanquick2574
    @jonathanquick2574 2 місяці тому +43

    Instant payouts do not mean live accounts. It just means the company has enough revenue from losing traders to pay the winners. None of these internet prop firms A book traders

  • @tradeopschannel9893
    @tradeopschannel9893 2 місяці тому +18

    Basically, closing the company is just TFTs way of saying that those who are waiting payouts need not to expect anything anymore even in the future. TFT will change its name and will do the same business until they cannot payout again

  • @chrismartison1455
    @chrismartison1455 2 місяці тому +5

    Appreciate the advice about adapability, I struggle with this, but you help bring the reality to the situation and how traders have moved on to different platforms & prop firms and still keep making $$$. Thanks!!

  • @HereIsmarcus
    @HereIsmarcus 2 місяці тому +17

    A good example of why not to put all eggs in one basket. I’m in the middle of a funded challenge now. I think I’ll start trading with a standard broker alongside it to get some money coming in just in case, even though it’ll be a smaller income

  • @leeles
    @leeles Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for exposing and explaining these improper business practices and warning us!

  • @CB-st6wm
    @CB-st6wm 2 місяці тому +10

    Allowing 20 sim accounts with payouts is the issue. Can't have a trader take 1 trade a day for $200 on 20 accounts ($4000) and take a $40,000 payout every 10 days. There are good prop firms out there, just find the ones who have realistic limits.

  • @dynodetail
    @dynodetail 2 місяці тому +2

    thanks for the informative video Arty

  • @MattTradesLife
    @MattTradesLife 2 місяці тому +32

    Same old song and dance with more to come. We all know that people on UA-cam largely make more from TALKING about trading, rather than actually trading or having business sense to run a "prop firm".
    Not to mention every "influencer" pushing affiliate links to the "best" firms but denying being a financial advisor and not to trust their opinions...This industry has to do better.

  • @ily_liddy1124
    @ily_liddy1124 2 місяці тому +6

    Which is why u js paper trade and then after a year or two js hop in with500?

  • @Hammerfest-ot2yh
    @Hammerfest-ot2yh 2 місяці тому +4

    In one moment you asked- how many subscribers I have? And I looked and noticed you have 863k subscribers!!! Great job. Congratulation.

  • @Nyruami
    @Nyruami 2 місяці тому +12

    I haven´t found a single prop firm yet that are looking for investments on their homepages. Ok, maybe the investment came from a private person or a private group so they do not actually need to look for investments, but it´s still smelling fishy.
    When a prop firm works the way you suggested, they should permanently be looking for investors, and actually they can offer pretty neat chances. You invest 100k or a million, those funds will be split among at least 10 persons, all proven to be successful, with an average profit of let´s say 7% per month. This would leave 1,4% on your capital and even if you spilt this profit 50:50 with the prop firm, there are still 0,7% profit, per month. That´s 8,73% a year. Even if 1 or 2 of the traders fail, you would make a great profit on your investment. So why is not a single prop firm looking for investors?.

  • @phantom2016
    @phantom2016 Місяць тому +1

    this video is helpful and the only ones with fair information about what's going on , and thanks for declining thay prop firm start up offer❤

  • @kalamaali7282
    @kalamaali7282 2 місяці тому +6

    Respect for your position on the prop industry.

  • @cuchulainn3474
    @cuchulainn3474 2 місяці тому +4

    This is insane - the whole concept of how prop firms work. Before I looked into them, I was under the impression that you pay your money to do the challenge and when you pass you're given a LIVE account. The company take 20% and you take 80%. This would pay for the staff and losses. To my amazement I found that prop firms DON'T give you a live account, when you pass, but instead PAY you your profits from all those people who have failed their challenge.
    Is it me or is this not a trainwreck waiting to happen?
    What if say 20 traders are exceptionally good and make 40% profit, between them, consistently a month? How on earth are these prop firms going to keep up? The answer is obviously, they're not.
    I have been considering doing the challenge, but after the TFT debacle, I'm exceptionally wary. I'm just going to fund myself, having been learning how to trade for the last 3 years, full time, on multiple demo accounts (and live ones too).

  • @josefjo4859
    @josefjo4859 2 місяці тому +4

    I really thank you with all my heart I am a student in Tunisia and in my country the tradint training is too expensive is not even worth it and you are the only one who gave me the truth with strong strategies and I chose Divergence Trading Strategy you saved my life thank you thank you thank you very much 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @Ikanoki
    @Ikanoki 2 місяці тому +2

    thanks to your videos I started to understand what it's all about thanks to the robot world. Could you make a video about the broker you use and what your experience is with them. Because I'm at the searching stage.

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      The broker I use is in the description of this video

  • @maninjapan79
    @maninjapan79 2 місяці тому +3

    The splits are ridiculously high BECAUSE they aren't putting up any money.
    No one in their right mind is going to fully fund a live account for a trader and pay out 80%. (unless you are on ridiculously low leverage)
    You go to any real prop (equities and futures), and you are looking at 20-40% profit split max...

  • @kdbyers
    @kdbyers 2 місяці тому +2

    Arty, can you please do a video on how you or what is the best way to avoid low volatility. There is a stock that I was trading that had the perfect supply and demand zones. They started off strong but almost immediately went weak and fell into low volatility, heck almost flat lined. It was very upsetting. I have been seeing this a few times this week. I really need advice on how to avoid these and stop wasting time. If you can, make a video on this. I really need to keep away from these types of trades

  • @bakribhai_
    @bakribhai_ 2 місяці тому +5

    I don't understand why people goes for simulated prop firms?
    I mean join those firms who offers real capital. I know they have plenty of strict rules but at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if the trader will be profitable or not.
    95% of retail accounts loose money in less than three month.
    We don't have a capital or prop firm problem. I think we all have greed, lack of experience problems.

  • @davidowemu9412
    @davidowemu9412 2 місяці тому +1

    Good day Ardy
    First I must appreciate you once again your good work of value on this challenge
    Secondly I need to know if there has been another deposit option for the TTF membership cause I once hade the money but was unable to subscribe cause my current are currently not supporting debit/credit payment anymore
    I really need this hope to hear from you
    Thanks Ardy

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      Contact TTF support from our website and they can further assist you

  • @MrBeans14
    @MrBeans14 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey is the trader pro discount only for the 200k challenge or i can use it for any challenge amount? The discount is not showing when i selected a 1 phase 100k. Any advice?

  • @user-zo3be2lf6h
    @user-zo3be2lf6h Місяць тому +1

    Hello, Will you still recommend FunderPro and how do I know their contract size on Trade Locker

  • @luizqueiroz9011
    @luizqueiroz9011 2 місяці тому +2

    one more thing Arty !!! they are copying the account . great content !! tks for the explanation!

  • @11dnm
    @11dnm 2 місяці тому +2

    which ones are under TFT?

  • @Muchachon9
    @Muchachon9 2 місяці тому +3

    Arty you have been making me into a better and more profitable trader on my demo account. Ill be subscribing to TTF with my first funded account payout. I wish you well.

  • @MyrexPinili
    @MyrexPinili 2 місяці тому +2

    someone says that propfirm is using simulated currrency on live account, what is simulated currency?

  • @jasongagnon4989
    @jasongagnon4989 2 місяці тому +3

    Awesome video, been with tft for a year, paid for a lot of challenges. So close but never got funded. Guess there was a good reason. Lol. Thanks for the explanation and referral. Jason

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому +1

      Sorry to hear that

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому +1

      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @miguelrng7
    @miguelrng7 2 місяці тому +1

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @JRatliff126
    @JRatliff126 Місяць тому +1

    How does anyone know exactly what's going on? I see the clues myself but who has proof?

  • @YeshuaDavidson
    @YeshuaDavidson Місяць тому +3

    I worked 3 months to save 55$ cuz 55$ is almost a salary in my country, I started with 55$ I'm on 20k. I never trust that funding stuff.

  • @tomstruct
    @tomstruct 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks arty

  • @mattdonlan7745
    @mattdonlan7745 2 місяці тому +1

    Can anyone recommend a US prop firm using real capital? I can't find one. I almost signed up this week for TFT. The other one on my list is Blue Guardian, but they use the same business model. I can't find one that uses live accounts at all.

  • @gusmanue8337
    @gusmanue8337 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @BmusicConcerts
    @BmusicConcerts 2 місяці тому +13

    I feel like Blue Guardian will be next. Payouts&affiliates payouts denied. I haven't been able to get money for 3 weeks…

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @user-em4vq5cy4x
    @user-em4vq5cy4x Місяць тому +1

    to make it more interesting for the firms it should be allowed to use the data you have to possibly not pass some trades
    this is to mitigate risk by not settling on those obviously they'd also assume extra risk which makes it balanced meaning nothing is wrong with it..
    the issue is there isn't any sort of compensation for companies that dont stick to their word, but at the same time the risk to reward is worth it so im not complaining.

  • @reyven9706
    @reyven9706 2 місяці тому +1

    Man, ur the man.👍
    No.2 for me would be vin diesel.

  • @Melowdee
    @Melowdee Місяць тому +2

    I have no remorse for these companies...run your company honestly and actually put people on live accounts after they pass. Greed unfortunately gets in the way. Trade with your own money if you can.

  • @dwadeworkx1644
    @dwadeworkx1644 2 місяці тому +1

    What do people think of Toptier trader? Also, which prop firm is recommended?

  • @abkarianofs1190
    @abkarianofs1190 2 місяці тому +2

    What is your opinion on TopStep? Are they reliable?

  • @akosifranz2246
    @akosifranz2246 2 місяці тому

    yoooo!! i have found one old video of yours from your other youtube channel 😁😁😁...it was your insanity work out!!! i knew i have seen you somewhere else other than videos about trading until i revisited some insanity workout videos

  • @vedrandzinic4871
    @vedrandzinic4871 2 місяці тому +1

    That's how it's... I think it's important to build a portfolio, and you can manage with loss funders

  • @JeaniusCompany
    @JeaniusCompany 2 місяці тому +1

    Why is that illegal in the US?

  • @YoungTrash-ro1ip
    @YoungTrash-ro1ip 2 місяці тому +1

    So which ones A book and which ones B book?

  • @restassuredworship
    @restassuredworship 2 місяці тому +2

    YES. Thank you - live accounts make money for all and give lots of incentives for the prop firm to not be sketchy. You have to charge more (basically the 10% DD) but it's worth it if you're profitable. Thank you for your integrity.

  • @vtee549
    @vtee549 2 місяці тому +3

    Which PropFirm do you use then?

  • @GhostFXKING
    @GhostFXKING 2 місяці тому +1

    Good to use trusted reliable brokers thanx for the video

  • @lionelmoraguizar6808
    @lionelmoraguizar6808 2 місяці тому +1

    What about city traders imperium?

  • @shyshy2020
    @shyshy2020 Місяць тому +1

    What you think about apex trader funding?

  • @Ialigorchani
    @Ialigorchani 2 місяці тому +1

    Any recommendations for a good prop firm after this

  • @djstock02
    @djstock02 2 місяці тому +1

    How do you feel about smartprop?

  • @bhaveshsanghrajka8409
    @bhaveshsanghrajka8409 2 місяці тому +4

    Which prop firm do you believe operates properly?

  • @theblockcat-ain1572
    @theblockcat-ain1572 2 місяці тому +1

    Do you think ospreyfx will be next???
    I'm am starting to move over to futures regulated.
    Don't know of ospreyfx gonna get hit next

  • @ianbrown5955
    @ianbrown5955 2 місяці тому +3

    The Funded Trader is still advertising to me.

  • @mouadovic04
    @mouadovic04 2 місяці тому +1

    this is why ....i trade only in regulated brokers ( Exness , IC MARKETS)

  • @jr.robert4956
    @jr.robert4956 Місяць тому +1

    What will happen to my 25k challenge account?

  • @shawn1248
    @shawn1248 Місяць тому +2

    It was just a matter of time for them. Bunch of kids made their money and that's all they cared about.

  • @Carwashing321
    @Carwashing321 2 місяці тому +1

    What about kortana and funded pips?

  • @MeagsLife
    @MeagsLife 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm with E8Markets and am loving it, next is FTMO

  • @jadencharles9695
    @jadencharles9695 2 місяці тому +3

    Yep that's why they make this 2 weeks or 30 day pay out system because the money comes from people who fail challenges complete utter nonsense , payout should be same day or 24hrs

  • @yashaskoppad8312
    @yashaskoppad8312 Місяць тому +1

    which prop firms do u suggest?

  • @erictrott6553
    @erictrott6553 Місяць тому +1

    Stats: "99% of day traders fail."
    Guru: "That stat is inflated. Just because it's hard doesn't mean you shouldn't try."
    Prop Firm: "Yeah, it's easy. Come pay us to try."
    Prop Firm: "Day Trading is hard and 99% of people are losing our money."
    Stats: "Told you."

  • @garychitwood641
    @garychitwood641 2 місяці тому +1

    BlueberryMarkets doesn't accept United States Clients. Who do you recommend for US citizens?

  • @mitchellacollado
    @mitchellacollado 2 місяці тому +1

    wow what a brake down amazing

  • @shanebrown8242
    @shanebrown8242 2 місяці тому +1

    Can futures be traded with FunderPro?

  • @AbdulWaheed-pz3bn
    @AbdulWaheed-pz3bn 2 місяці тому +1

    is thunder pro work in Pakistan

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      You would have to double check on their website

  • @prettybirdjess
    @prettybirdjess Місяць тому +1

    Can we dispute with bank

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  Місяць тому

      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @marounalam6479
    @marounalam6479 Місяць тому +1

    hey guys , any thoughts about toptier ?

  • @nojutsu1992
    @nojutsu1992 2 місяці тому +1

    Do you think Pepperstone is a trusted Broker ? from your point of view !

  • @MangiBairagi
    @MangiBairagi 2 місяці тому +1

    What about funding pips?

  • @jayhawk0047
    @jayhawk0047 2 місяці тому +2

    I already switched to futures trading

  • @carmenhenry7243
    @carmenhenry7243 2 місяці тому +1

    Did Arty say 10M?

  • @daltondalton5501
    @daltondalton5501 2 місяці тому +1

    How is your prop firm doing?

  • @TurnkeyTrading
    @TurnkeyTrading 2 місяці тому +1

    see any similarities between TFT and FTX?

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      I don't know anything about FTX.
      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @kokhkokh133
    @kokhkokh133 25 днів тому +1

    Bro I just paid for a Challenge for the funded trader, so my money was for nothing ?

  • @Officialhustleworld
    @Officialhustleworld Місяць тому +1

    This man spits out facts thanks . I will try my best to trade my own money on a legit broker ‼️

  • @MattWiggyWiggins
    @MattWiggyWiggins 2 місяці тому +1

    Is this why SFT went down, as well? Using TFT's white-label service?

  • @ahmedabdellatief2676
    @ahmedabdellatief2676 Місяць тому +1

    What do you think about ftmo?

  • @sherlockholmes8485
    @sherlockholmes8485 2 місяці тому +1

    What about ftmo?

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      Haven’t used them but they’ve been around a while

  • @jessemcjordanm9935
    @jessemcjordanm9935 2 місяці тому +1

    Could instant payouts be a trick to get you in

  • @brandonlee5029
    @brandonlee5029 2 місяці тому +1

    Would appreciate it you do a video listing all the affiliate companies of TFT and others like them. don't explicit accuse them of anything. Just list out their affiliates so we can avoid them all

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      Noted
      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @therealdeal772
    @therealdeal772 2 місяці тому +1

    Do you guys payout with bitcoin or litecoin?

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      When you mean you guys, do you mean FunderPro?

  • @aramokurdo
    @aramokurdo 2 місяці тому +2

    Funding Pips is doing good i hope stays that way

  • @nigelchallenger1978
    @nigelchallenger1978 Місяць тому +1

    Would you do a video review on the different prop firms that are still available? Thanks for the video on TFT. I got screwed by them like the rest of the TFT traders.

  • @simonredfern1663
    @simonredfern1663 2 місяці тому +2

    Arty I hope you read this, even if you don't authorise it. While I of question if you're actually a profitable trader, and I do think there is something to the Iman video.. Your channel is the reason I got into forex and I've had a wonderful couple of years learning/consuming your content. I always come to your channel for news related topics like this as you do a great job in covering them. I could be off on this but you don't strike me as someone that set out to scam, maybe I'm wrong but that's my gut feeling. Long story short, you seem to me like a good guy - I'm just not convinced you're a profitable trader which is a fundamental flaw I guess lol. Cheers

  • @dennisanonym8658
    @dennisanonym8658 2 місяці тому +3

    WTF? Well then happy Easter 😂

  • @upcummingartistcph8593
    @upcummingartistcph8593 2 місяці тому +1

    If you pass a challenge for lets say a 100k account, do you start at 100k again with the real funded account, or do the profits carry over?

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      If you're doing the free trail you get 5% of profit made if you pass it.

  • @dylandossett1069
    @dylandossett1069 2 місяці тому +1

    I almost put money on FTX just weeks before the collapse… I almost got an account on TFT just weeks ago… I’m gonna stick to AMP broker and Webull building smaller accounts on brokers who won’t fuck me over

  • @jedakruger
    @jedakruger 13 днів тому

    Question FTMO or Funderpro?

  • @philippmuller1511
    @philippmuller1511 2 місяці тому +1

    Which is a goog prop firm?

  • @jerrypelletier2328
    @jerrypelletier2328 2 місяці тому +1

    Just two months ago Angelo CEO of TFT was bragging about buying a private jet for tax purposes.!!

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @bilalhamadi430
    @bilalhamadi430 Місяць тому +1

    If they are really given real money they should not charge a fee when taking the challenge , it's a gambling game

  • @xplate
    @xplate 2 місяці тому +1

    Will TFT not return and my funded account will not return?

    • @TheMovingAverage
      @TheMovingAverage  2 місяці тому

      FunderPro is actively helping people get their payouts through mediation because they’re talking to the CEO of the funded trader
      funderpro.com/tft-payouts-tma/

  • @0518josh
    @0518josh 2 місяці тому +1

    What about other Prop Firms like Funding PIPS & FUNDED Next

  • @David-lc2sn
    @David-lc2sn 2 місяці тому +2

    😢

  • @AmaanKarlman-kq4px
    @AmaanKarlman-kq4px 2 місяці тому +1

    hello all the way from uganda

  • @irfandwikurniadi4036
    @irfandwikurniadi4036 Місяць тому +1

    why don't they just give it 50:50, wouldn't that be fair between both parties? and of course it will be safer