The body language adds so much to the game-like Tricia’s authentic rejection of Kyle’s fake Dreamer info. She saw through it because she was evil, but it gave her so much credibility as good.
I wanna commend the production value of this video, amazing setups for private chats, the room for town square set the tone quite nicely and the fact that you didn't have NRB's budget actually made it more cozy and less theatrical. It felt like real people were playing and not like the performance was staged. I like either way, just wanted to point out the difference. Great job Off Meta squad!
Hayley here - thank you so much for this! The vision we have for everything off meta is that we want it appear that we're friends playing games (because we are). Like you could be in the room with us, not a performance, just some lovely people in a room. Thank you so much for taking the time to tell us that that's how you perceived it! I could cry, you've made my day 🥹
That chair must look greener in person to those in the room. Seemed that town thought “yeah, that yes is legit info” when I thought the chair looked blue.
I mean, I don't know it's official color but I confirmed for all the players that the chair is green off camera when they asked and I asked Lynxle if she thought the chair was green after giving her my answer and she confirmed she did think that. So yeah, it was probably just the cameras as let's be honest. We are all just a bunch of friends getting together to play games.. we had no professional idea what we were doing on lighting, cameras, of audio.
@@lordloftus I just thought it was great maybe poisoned maybe not info. If she’d asked about a red chair it would be cut and dry but that’s always on the artist to make sure it’s a clear yes/no.
I think it looks more blue than green, but blue-green range is where *all* my color vision deficiency is, so I thought sure, maybe it's about equal green+blue, I can't really tell.
@@JohnOonincxher question wasn't about whether or not the chair was green, it was to test if she would get an objectively correct answer. Getting an objectively incorrect answer would mean that the demon is a vortox (a demon who causes every townsfolk ability to give incorrect information) OR it would mean that she is drunk or poisoned both of which is helpful to know. Because she received objectively correct information she felt confident ruling all of the above out. (It should be noted that she was in fact poisoned and was given correct information to hide that she was sat next to the No Dashi which poisons it's townsfolk neighbours). So it's not that learning the chair is green gave her information, it's learning that the storyteller would give her a correct answer to a question allowed her to believe her information was un-interfered with.
Beautiful game, as always! It's so cool to see you guys play in person, it just gives an entirely different feeling for the game (like giving reasons for sudden movements at night, gestures, but also the beautiful outtake dance party)
This game was a blast to play in and Adam did a great job with the edit. Looking forward to seeing more games from Off Meta Offline make it out to people!
I now super want to be the spy that can claim juggler, get all 5 right and then claim only to receive a 3. I just don't know if I could keep a straight face through it. I was lucky that time I did the spy play was before we played with cameras online!
If pepper or Trisha raised their hands to kill Trisha they would’ve won. That said…love the video. It’s hard to find GOOD in person clocktower games on here
I've watched this hundred of times now, I was literally able to quote it verbatim for a while. Luckily my editing brain has moved on now to the next set of videos!
Day 3 savant was 2 false statements.. "the juggler bluff would have got a 2" they would have got a 1. "the dreamer bluff got false info" the dreamer bluff was the a barber who gets no info
Spoilers! . > > > > > > > > I'm especially proud of that one. As the information was "the player claiming Juggler would have received a 2" which was correct as they were sat next to the No Dashii and poisoned so it was false information
Watching this in-person Clocktower has given me a theory. A good in-person story teller is very social with their group. Being able to walk around and interact with your group without a mechanical reason seems important. While good app story teller works best when lurking through the chats, as to not disturb the game too much. But I suppose a social ST is never *bad*. From watching streams it just seems like lurking is the way to ST while using the app.
Spoilers. > > > > > > I could have made anyone drunk at that point and still gave them true information later, but I helped evil out with the NoDashii poison on Lynxle, so I balanced it out. In the end it was the right call imho as good came down to a 50/50 between the demon and minion. Had they not barber swapped that night, it would have been their game... but hindsight is always 50/50
Could have, but I was confident in what I was doing. The wonderful thing about clocktower is knowing your players and creating a game that is fun for them.
Ekin wasn't the mutant or demon, this game is invalid.
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Hahaha I managed to pull something different for once out of the bag. Sweetheart is an outsider like mutant though, so I guess that's as close as it gets since Adam didn't put a Mutant in the bag :D
4 could be tied if Trish Noms Piper and they get jams and one other person to vote they tie the vote by Piper voting on herself at the end evil wins you still run that.
Spoilers > > > > > > > > At ua-cam.com/video/mjHI18PX2jY/v-deo.htmlsi=0GL1GLIV2l0PhGyM&t=5540 you can see the grim on the floor. There are only 4 votes left, so good would have had to intentionally tied the vote. In those situations I don't run a false vote unless I think that might happen, but it wasn't going to happen and would have impacted the reveal by being obvious who the evil team was.
Fun fact you can convince people to Things that are against their best interest all the time. Is it shitty to watch them not be even given the chance to try yes.
@@rockassassin64 Everyone is welcome to an opinion on this. But there is no way the good players in this game were going to vote for a tie to ensure they lost the game. There was 4 votes left on the table and the vote count was 4 on the demon. It wasn't going to happen with these players. Trust me that as their ST I know these players and knew it wasn't happening. There was no mayor on the script or a way for good to win if they tied, so there wasn't a reason to go ahead with that vote.
@lordloftus You are probably right. However, I think there is a little bit of artifice to be gained By asking if people Even care to run More votes. Otherwise paired with other calls that you made. Namely the sweetheart, it looks like you wanted evil team to lose. I know that's not true. Don't know what it looked like to me.
Firstly: very entertaining! This is the first time ive found the off meta channel and I'll definitely be back for more! Secondly: im confused why didnt pepper just kill jams on that last one? Wouldn't that have just won the game? (Ive only seen BOTCT once before and i presume im just missing a rule)
I assume you mean because Kyle was witch-cursed? Kyle wouldn't have died to that witch curse, because it is written in the witch ability that 'this ability stops functioning when there's only three players alive'. This is to prevent a situation where there is only one good player left, who can't nominate because they would then die and lose the game. But also remember, Pepper didn't know who Tricia witch-cursed so even if that wasn't true she couldn't have known who to kill.
@@SickRedApple no not that. So pepper killed Kyle, then was immediately told the butcher is dead which Kyle has already said he was. So then if pepper used her second kill to take out jams it should have been just her and Tricia left alive. Right?
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@@Nick-in9igThere’s no second kill after a barber swap. The demon’s order in the night has already passed so even when Tricia becomes the demon she doesn’t get to go again.
@ Thank you! turns out I was being an idiot and misunderstood the barbers ability. For some reason I thought it allowed the daemon to kill a second player. Not sure why I'd got so confused!
The green chair was a vortox check, it just needed to be a question with an obvious answer (they mention vortox a couple of times so their script must have included it - it’s a demon that causes all townsfolk information to be false). Also a potential poison/drunk check although poisoned information may be true.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it have been check-mate in favor of the evil team if Pepper had killed Jams in that last night? Given that Trisha cursed Kyle...
@@lordloftus they were with 4 the last night they played, Trisha cursed Kyle. My question is, if Pepper had killed Jams instead of Kyle, wouldn't that be pretty much GG?
@@shonen245 I don't mean to be dense, but the very final day in this game they had 3 alive (Pepper, Jams, Trisha) so the witch's ability stopped working. If it had of been Pepper/Kyle/Trisha alive on the final three, and Jams was killed that night instead, the moment three alive are all that is left the witch's ability stops working.
On the third night, Peppa the no dachi killed Andi in the night. And then Andi used her ability but as far as I'm aware death in the night is instant, am I wrong?
1:19:47 I just realized, Tricia could have hacked the game to almost guarantee a win for her team right there. haven't watched past this point yet. but there is one safe bet in this situation: If she chose herself as the Witch, and then nominated. They would instantly win, as long as Pepper killed a good player. edit: okay with that Barber use it would have actually guaranteed their loss so. woops. I did not expect Pepper to kill anyone but Jams. edit 2: like seriously. i get the appeal of getting a use out of barber. but letting a good player with an ability like the Savant survive on the last day? that's so risky. just so risky. like damn.
Spoilers > . . . . I believe I told them one once per game ability was still to be used. Seamstress and Artist was used at this point so that number was either 0 or 2 (barber/sage) if I recall depending on how the player wanted to view that info so I was safe giving it either way.
Ok, clarifying statement: I know you're doing this game as part of the off meta podcast, but making the info based on prior podcasts seemed unfair.. and I also wrote it early in the video, after which you clarified thr juggler info would've been drunk, so I have to backtrack the statement accordingly. Felt bad posting what I posted , but felt it was wrong to edit it after the fact . Thoroughly enjoyed the video!
@@EzFlyers10 I understand your perspective. The information was more to confuse & throw shade at some of the claims out there (dreamer / barber for example) and give cover to the demon... Who i thought would have gone Philo but they went Oracle instead so it threw shade on them. Either way I really liked that information because it forced the players to think about what characters are s-tier and created a puzzle within the puzzle that is already a puzzle... And tbh, Jams has the brain to work through that as they used to play in the NY group and was used to me as their ST in person already.
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Weird to imagine that these faces on the grim screen have like entire physical bodies.
Its amazing what AI can do these days
Spooky stuff.
The body language adds so much to the game-like Tricia’s authentic rejection of Kyle’s fake Dreamer info. She saw through it because she was evil, but it gave her so much credibility as good.
This is exactly how I pictured in-person Clocktower being filmed, years back! What a gorgeous setting too!
Great job everyone, it looks so fun!
I wanna commend the production value of this video, amazing setups for private chats, the room for town square set the tone quite nicely and the fact that you didn't have NRB's budget actually made it more cozy and less theatrical. It felt like real people were playing and not like the performance was staged. I like either way, just wanted to point out the difference.
Great job Off Meta squad!
Hayley here - thank you so much for this! The vision we have for everything off meta is that we want it appear that we're friends playing games (because we are). Like you could be in the room with us, not a performance, just some lovely people in a room. Thank you so much for taking the time to tell us that that's how you perceived it! I could cry, you've made my day 🥹
That chair must look greener in person to those in the room. Seemed that town thought “yeah, that yes is legit info” when I thought the chair looked blue.
I mean, I don't know it's official color but I confirmed for all the players that the chair is green off camera when they asked and I asked Lynxle if she thought the chair was green after giving her my answer and she confirmed she did think that.
So yeah, it was probably just the cameras as let's be honest. We are all just a bunch of friends getting together to play games.. we had no professional idea what we were doing on lighting, cameras, of audio.
@@lordloftus I just thought it was great maybe poisoned maybe not info. If she’d asked about a red chair it would be cut and dry but that’s always on the artist to make sure it’s a clear yes/no.
I think it looks more blue than green, but blue-green range is where *all* my color vision deficiency is, so I thought sure, maybe it's about equal green+blue, I can't really tell.
I still don't understand why asking this question got her all the info she got. Can anybody explain?
@@JohnOonincxher question wasn't about whether or not the chair was green, it was to test if she would get an objectively correct answer. Getting an objectively incorrect answer would mean that the demon is a vortox (a demon who causes every townsfolk ability to give incorrect information) OR it would mean that she is drunk or poisoned both of which is helpful to know.
Because she received objectively correct information she felt confident ruling all of the above out. (It should be noted that she was in fact poisoned and was given correct information to hide that she was sat next to the No Dashi which poisons it's townsfolk neighbours).
So it's not that learning the chair is green gave her information, it's learning that the storyteller would give her a correct answer to a question allowed her to believe her information was un-interfered with.
Beautiful game, as always! It's so cool to see you guys play in person, it just gives an entirely different feeling for the game (like giving reasons for sudden movements at night, gestures, but also the beautiful outtake dance party)
I love watching in person games; they're more like running a real game than the online ones. Production values excellent. Hope you do more.
Can confirm, Ekin is a Sweetheart
Aww that warms my heart so much, thank you Kev!
This game was a blast to play in and Adam did a great job with the edit. Looking forward to seeing more games from Off Meta Offline make it out to people!
Never thought before about how doing a fake juggle is a way to help you remember people's claims when you arent taking notes Edit: Unless you are Duke
Can also be a way to communicate info to your evil team. Gossips are good for this as well.
I now super want to be the spy that can claim juggler, get all 5 right and then claim only to receive a 3. I just don't know if I could keep a straight face through it. I was lucky that time I did the spy play was before we played with cameras online!
If pepper or Trisha raised their hands to kill Trisha they would’ve won. That said…love the video. It’s hard to find GOOD in person clocktower games on here
Legend has it that Duke is still waiting to get that shirt
Very well put together episode. Tense, funny and with a great crew of people willing to build many different worlds together. Thanks for the episode.
Fun game and great showcase for S&V. Thanks for sharing.
that day 1 savant info is UNHINGED I love it
Such a fun game to play in! I can’t wait to see more in person OffMeta videos!! ♥️🖤
This was so well done! I really hope y'all had the opportunity to film more of them while you were together.
So many people lying right out of the gate
The end credits is just the cutest little thing, I love it
This is so fun! Amazing job y’all! ❤🎉
Awesome content, hope to see much more of it.
really like the offline game style- can't wait for the next one!
Amazing crew !!!! 🎉🎉🎉 great job 🎉 the place is great , i love the it ! french game are very talkative lol we can’t do the same 😂
That was amazing! Can we expect to get more of these in-person games at some point in the future?
Great game. That was a joy to watch, even though I sadly had to go to work and watch it after the fact.
did i already watch this on the Patreon? yeah. am i watching it again? yeah
I've watched this hundred of times now, I was literally able to quote it verbatim for a while. Luckily my editing brain has moved on now to the next set of videos!
Nice one. Thank You.
Day 3 savant was 2 false statements..
"the juggler bluff would have got a 2" they would have got a 1.
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I'm especially proud of that one. As the information was "the player claiming Juggler would have received a 2" which was correct as they were sat next to the No Dashii and poisoned so it was false information
@@lordloftus ohh, very clever
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I haven't seen most of these roles in play, this gonna be gewd
hey it's Jams and Ekin! I love them on ECG
I don't think I've ever been on ECG, are you thinking of TPI's official streams maybe?
@ I get them confused. I associate you/Jams with Daddy Ben a lot.
Loved it, please make more!
Watching this in-person Clocktower has given me a theory.
A good in-person story teller is very social with their group. Being able to walk around and interact with your group without a mechanical reason seems important.
While good app story teller works best when lurking through the chats, as to not disturb the game too much.
But I suppose a social ST is never *bad*. From watching streams it just seems like lurking is the way to ST while using the app.
I would watch more live games
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I could have made anyone drunk at that point and still gave them true information later, but I helped evil out with the NoDashii poison on Lynxle, so I balanced it out. In the end it was the right call imho as good came down to a 50/50 between the demon and minion. Had they not barber swapped that night, it would have been their game... but hindsight is always 50/50
Might as well drunk the Savant, can give true or false at that point and explain away any mistakes.
Could have, but I was confident in what I was doing. The wonderful thing about clocktower is knowing your players and creating a game that is fun for them.
Lol, Duke juggling six players (and then not remembering them!). Not in top form today.
Ekin wasn't the mutant or demon, this game is invalid.
Hahaha I managed to pull something different for once out of the bag. Sweetheart is an outsider like mutant though, so I guess that's as close as it gets since Adam didn't put a Mutant in the bag :D
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no good Should vote, it would be throwing at that point
Fun fact you can convince people to Things that are against their best interest all the time. Is it shitty to watch them not be even given the chance to try yes.
@@rockassassin64 Everyone is welcome to an opinion on this. But there is no way the good players in this game were going to vote for a tie to ensure they lost the game. There was 4 votes left on the table and the vote count was 4 on the demon. It wasn't going to happen with these players. Trust me that as their ST I know these players and knew it wasn't happening.
There was no mayor on the script or a way for good to win if they tied, so there wasn't a reason to go ahead with that vote.
@lordloftus You are probably right. However, I think there is a little bit of artifice to be gained By asking if people Even care to run More votes. Otherwise paired with other calls that you made. Namely the sweetheart, it looks like you wanted evil team to lose. I know that's not true. Don't know what it looked like to me.
Good game!
Firstly: very entertaining! This is the first time ive found the off meta channel and I'll definitely be back for more!
Secondly: im confused why didnt pepper just kill jams on that last one? Wouldn't that have just won the game? (Ive only seen BOTCT once before and i presume im just missing a rule)
I assume you mean because Kyle was witch-cursed?
Kyle wouldn't have died to that witch curse, because it is written in the witch ability that 'this ability stops functioning when there's only three players alive'. This is to prevent a situation where there is only one good player left, who can't nominate because they would then die and lose the game.
But also remember, Pepper didn't know who Tricia witch-cursed so even if that wasn't true she couldn't have known who to kill.
@@SickRedApple no not that. So pepper killed Kyle, then was immediately told the butcher is dead which Kyle has already said he was. So then if pepper used her second kill to take out jams it should have been just her and Tricia left alive. Right?
@@Nick-in9igThere’s no second kill after a barber swap. The demon’s order in the night has already passed so even when Tricia becomes the demon she doesn’t get to go again.
@ Thank you! turns out I was being an idiot and misunderstood the barbers ability. For some reason I thought it allowed the daemon to kill a second player. Not sure why I'd got so confused!
I was so confused during this because I didn't understand all the roles, especially what the green chair had to do with anything. But it was fun
The green chair was a vortox check, it just needed to be a question with an obvious answer (they mention vortox a couple of times so their script must have included it - it’s a demon that causes all townsfolk information to be false). Also a potential poison/drunk check although poisoned information may be true.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it have been check-mate in favor of the evil team if Pepper had killed Jams in that last night? Given that Trisha cursed Kyle...
Witch loses ability in final 3 :)
@@lordloftus they were with 4 the last night they played, Trisha cursed Kyle. My question is, if Pepper had killed Jams instead of Kyle, wouldn't that be pretty much GG?
@@shonen245 I don't mean to be dense, but the very final day in this game they had 3 alive (Pepper, Jams, Trisha) so the witch's ability stopped working. If it had of been Pepper/Kyle/Trisha alive on the final three, and Jams was killed that night instead, the moment three alive are all that is left the witch's ability stops working.
wait how is the N3 Savant info right? aren't both of the statements wrong?
Juggler was poisoned and could have received any information, and not false info as its actually also what I would have given them :)
On the third night, Peppa the no dachi killed Andi in the night. And then Andi used her ability but as far as I'm aware death in the night is instant, am I wrong?
Andi was the sage, their ability triggers on death
@@OffMetaPlays oh okay apologies
1:19:47 I just realized, Tricia could have hacked the game to almost guarantee a win for her team right there. haven't watched past this point yet. but there is one safe bet in this situation: If she chose herself as the Witch, and then nominated. They would instantly win, as long as Pepper killed a good player.
edit: okay with that Barber use it would have actually guaranteed their loss so. woops. I did not expect Pepper to kill anyone but Jams.
edit 2: like seriously. i get the appeal of getting a use out of barber. but letting a good player with an ability like the Savant survive on the last day? that's so risky. just so risky. like damn.
Sage isn't a Once per Game Ability, and Math Would have gotten a 0 night 2. So, Two Trues day 2... based on how Adam ran Sage this game?
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The savant info was really bad...
What didn't you like about it?
Ok, clarifying statement: I know you're doing this game as part of the off meta podcast, but making the info based on prior podcasts seemed unfair.. and I also wrote it early in the video, after which you clarified thr juggler info would've been drunk, so I have to backtrack the statement accordingly. Felt bad posting what I posted , but felt it was wrong to edit it after the fact . Thoroughly enjoyed the video!
@@EzFlyers10 I understand your perspective. The information was more to confuse & throw shade at some of the claims out there (dreamer / barber for example) and give cover to the demon... Who i thought would have gone Philo but they went Oracle instead so it threw shade on them.
Either way I really liked that information because it forced the players to think about what characters are s-tier and created a puzzle within the puzzle that is already a puzzle... And tbh, Jams has the brain to work through that as they used to play in the NY group and was used to me as their ST in person already.
@@lordloftus makes sense :) love your stuff, truly!
Lynxle is so cute omg ❤
asking for donations from such a fancy house doesn't work in your favor, just sayin
We rented this house and split the cost between 20 people.
As for donations, we only ask for money to support what we do, unfortunately that's how things work in a capitalist society. It's not an obligation at all, if someone likes what we do enough to give us money to allow us to continue making entertainment for them, that's super generous of them and we are eternally grateful.
@@OffMetaPlays thats fair, I would suggest mentioning that when asking for donations though.