How Unprofitable Companies Stay In Business

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  • @lunchbox6576
    @lunchbox6576 Рік тому +541

    I worked for yellow for seven years. The CEO and other board members never failed to give themselves a performance bonus. They also spent money on side projects to avoid loan repayments. The company was horribly mismanaged for over 15 straight years.

    • @Tricia-Tricia
      @Tricia-Tricia Рік тому +13

      Wow! 😲 I can't believe what you've witnessed during your time at yellow. 🙀 It's pretty disheartening to hear about the CEO and board members giving themselves performance bonuses consistently, while the company was clearly mismanaged for such a long period of time. 😞 It seems like they were more concerned about their personal gain than ensuring the success and growth of the company. 📉 Hopefully, things have improved since then. But nevertheless, your dedication and commitment for seven years is truly commendable! 💪👏

    • @jeffreyrudolph5061
      @jeffreyrudolph5061 Рік тому

      Predatory firm(s).

    • @Ratinevo
      @Ratinevo Рік тому +48

      That is the formula, sadly. The guys get paid well even when the companies die. It’s called value extraction.

    • @MrSupernova111
      @MrSupernova111 Рік тому +30

      Capitalism at work. Greedy executives laugh all the way to the bank while the rest of us are left bankrupt.

    • @frantzen5047
      @frantzen5047 Рік тому +21

      AI Bots in UA-cam comments? Never seen that before lol@@Tricia-Tricia

  • @foobarFR
    @foobarFR Рік тому +370

    A famous french writer once said : "you don't die because of debts. you die when you can't get new ones".
    The founder of Altice said : "When I got my first 50k buisness loan, I couldn't sleep - if I failed, I would have lost everything. Now I owe more than 50 billions and I sleep very well - my bankers don't".

    • @scoops2
      @scoops2 Рік тому +109

      "If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem."

    • @jakovcu
      @jakovcu Рік тому +5

      ​@scoops2 in recent times it is government that will pick up bill

    • @omphilemangena3950
      @omphilemangena3950 Рік тому +1

      ​@@scoops2😂😂😂😂😂

    • @andybaubau5961
      @andybaubau5961 Рік тому +1

      he got bery rich and don't care anymore......a common story of zombies companies.....and govrnment sleep

    • @andybaubau5961
      @andybaubau5961 Рік тому +1

      he got bery rich and don't care anymore......a common story of zombies companies.....and govrnment sleep

  • @vladimirofsvalbard9477
    @vladimirofsvalbard9477 Рік тому +16

    Cheap debt and low corporate taxes ONLY give incentive for bad products.
    If I want to create an LLC. I would have gotten a low interest loan, sold a bunch of Chinese garbage in a market trend for 18 months, SHORTED by own company, and then allowed my company to dissolve into bankruptcy.
    I and my board members would have gotten rich on our profits, gotten additionally wealthy from our short positions, and then walked away unscathed after using the chapter laws and making the tax-payer fund our collapse.
    This model has been extremely lucrative since the 1980s.

  • @KillDeathRatioDJ
    @KillDeathRatioDJ Рік тому +406

    The problem is they let small zombie businesses die but when large businesses go bankrupt the government swoops in and bails them out even if they are malicious or did wrong with the profits.

    • @tayjones8552
      @tayjones8552 Рік тому +3

      Well said!

    • @IN-hw8it6
      @IN-hw8it6 Рік тому +2

      It's about choices...🍀

    • @chandlerfreeman1633
      @chandlerfreeman1633 Рік тому +22

      It's simple, the big firms, investment banks lobby and pay congress men campaign donetions, plus provide inside information for trading etc exa. Nancy Pelosi. that way politicians will always bail them with public money if they are going under, whilst small shop owners can only pay local politicians/goons for protection who don't have much say in loan weaver

    • @benzpinto
      @benzpinto Рік тому +1

      big evil wins most of the time

    • @lukesmith3283
      @lukesmith3283 Рік тому

      Large banks and corporations control the government. They have their hands in politicians pockets.

  • @TommyDangs
    @TommyDangs Рік тому +335

    750,000,000 bailout and yet paying $234 back… and yet when I’m late on my mortgage my house is in danger 😂

    • @mattweiss7645
      @mattweiss7645 Рік тому +17

      The funniest part of this comment is not the hyperbole , but that you think you matter. That is unless you also facilitate millions of financial transactions across the broader economy.

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify Рік тому +11

      Well Yellow went under just like a home owner that fails to pay

    • @decaprio7421
      @decaprio7421 Рік тому

      Trump made a side deal with them obviously 🙄

    • @europana7
      @europana7 Рік тому +6

      Can I borrow $750M ???

    • @TommyDangs
      @TommyDangs Рік тому

      @@mattweiss7645 here you go bro 🥾enjoy licking it your entire life 😂

  • @Cjaymoney
    @Cjaymoney Рік тому +18

    Socialism for corporations and capitalism for the rest. We pay to keep them alive and they tell us to “lift yourself up by your bootstraps” to be like them…

  • @Burnenwhysee
    @Burnenwhysee Рік тому +238

    The bigger question is how many of these "zombie" companies are propping up the employment rate. Likely a good amount. If they go, employment will suffer. I've personally worked at at least 2 companies where the finances didn't make sense, and they should have gone out of business (one of them did)

    • @Neckername1
      @Neckername1 Рік тому +23

      I meancif they go, employment should suffer. The jobs were not necessary anymore. Otherwise they would be valued higher and therefore would still be making money.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Рік тому +25

      Those zombie firms are providing *some* service or product that someone else is buying. It may not be a great service, it might not be a great product, but they are generating revenue somehow, reflecting they do have customers.
      When that firm blows up, those customers will go somewhere else to some other firm whose revenue will thereby increase. That other firm will thus hire.
      Point being that at least some of the unemployment created by dying zombie firms will be offset by increased employment at firms that benefit from zombie firm collapses. It won't be one for one, but it won't be zero either.
      In the case of Yellow Trucking, for instance, the offset might be quite high. More-or-less every truck delivery that Yellow did will have to be backfilled by other trucking firms. It might not be 100%, but it was probably pretty close to it - probably 90%+.

    • @freddyfriend5462
      @freddyfriend5462 Рік тому +5

      In a socialist economy everyone is employed. 🤣

    • @ThinkBeFree99
      @ThinkBeFree99 Рік тому +2

      Thata cause the people in carharge just care about paying themselves and not necessarily making things work. However if this means nitmal people can stay employed than that is best

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 Рік тому

      Most of zombie firms are high growth tech companies and most of jobs are white collar jobs.

  • @omgness1234
    @omgness1234 Рік тому +267

    I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned how these companies just rolling their debt into more loans to the point that their loan payments exceed their profits. These companies are basically alive just to make loan payments on their debt. At that point, someone has to call it quits

    • @xiphoid2011
      @xiphoid2011 Рік тому +19

      You can't borrow if no one is willing to lend to you, especially when the lender sees that you don't have the means to pay the higher interest.

    • @blueoval250
      @blueoval250 Рік тому

      Sounds like the US government

    • @saucyrossy3698
      @saucyrossy3698 Рік тому

      @@xiphoid2011 This. Investors (esp institutional investors) need to take the lion's share of responsibility for this. "Due diligence is hard and time consuming and expensive and we might miss a big opportunity if we move too slow" is a horrifically bad excuse, but easy to do with other people's money. COmpanies raise money...its what they do...esp when they are struggling. You could almost forgive them for it...but blindly investing money in a flim-flam machine is much less forgivable.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Рік тому +5

      Extend and pretend.

    • @omgness1234
      @omgness1234 Рік тому

      @@xiphoid2011 except tons of publicly traded companies do this, including most of these zombie companies. Eventually it comes crashing down…

  • @redwolfexr
    @redwolfexr Рік тому +29

    Borrow a bunch of money, pay the CEO and executives well.. then walk away before the bankruptcy.

  • @cesaravegah3787
    @cesaravegah3787 Рік тому +22

    I am pro-freemarket and yet think the companies like Amazon and Uber using bussines models where they lose billions of dollars to destroy small companies on the hope of achieving monoply level control of the market shouldnt be alowed to do that

    • @singhmaster4
      @singhmaster4 8 місяців тому

      Exactly, that is how these companies become giants. They are pumped with so much money that they don't make profits for years. Even when the business is not making profits, the CEO'S are still making millions. It's a scam system.
      Look at Dennys restaurants, they haven't turned a profit in like 15 years I think but they have locations all over USA.

    • @noclicheplease
      @noclicheplease 8 місяців тому

      Especially Amazon. They gather data about fast moving goods and have those same goods manufactured by some white labeling company and sell it under Amazon Basics label by undercutting sellers on its own platform.

  • @willvandeusen7130
    @willvandeusen7130 Рік тому +124

    It’s really just a question of “when are the banks ever going to take responsibility for their mistakes without asking for a bailout?”

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 Рік тому +7

      With the Fed around they dont have to

    • @ericromagna870
      @ericromagna870 Рік тому

      Nailed it

    • @LukeMahan-xr4xx
      @LukeMahan-xr4xx Рік тому +1

      Moral Hazzard

    • @Legoman69469
      @Legoman69469 Рік тому

      They will never. Because large companies and banks are ran by the same MBA poop and swoops. They go in convincing shareholders they know something about running a successful company, do their 5 year stint while making millions in bonuses and then get out of dodge when the business is about to fail.

    • @sufthegoat
      @sufthegoat Рік тому

      Exactly

  • @thelammas8283
    @thelammas8283 Рік тому +297

    One of the purposes of tighter monetary policy is to weed out weaker business models and stop misallocation of capital. It is a good thing, not a reason to worry.

    • @sten260
      @sten260 Рік тому +26

      yes that includes big corporations, if they are unprofitable they have no reason to be still in business. That would also release a lot of workers so other companies that are actually productive have bigger pool to hire from

    • @kaovilai
      @kaovilai Рік тому +1

      only if they're not taking assistance away from other companies.

    • @NicholasWHaley7
      @NicholasWHaley7 Рік тому +2

      It is a good thing but we are talking about 10% of public companies.

    • @Thatanonguyintheback
      @Thatanonguyintheback Рік тому +5

      Easy to say when your livelihood isn't on the line.

    • @joelstanley3330
      @joelstanley3330 Рік тому

      TZA

  • @felixdeleon7685
    @felixdeleon7685 Рік тому +25

    I love how this story regarding zombie firms was released on Halloween

  • @kurtphilly
    @kurtphilly Рік тому +127

    It’s not zombie firm that bothers me, it’s the bank or lender that agreed the business model was viable.

    • @redwolfexr
      @redwolfexr Рік тому +8

      Its not always obvious, on paper a plan can look good -- but still be subject to external risks. Once you run out of your line of credit and you can't make payroll or get the next loan you expected -- then you are done.

    • @Spoopball
      @Spoopball Рік тому

      Sadly bailing out a bank makes more sense than a business.
      Just look at China.
      Their banks just take deposits and freeze accounts to stop bank runs because Chinese banks are not backed by their government.
      When a Chinese bank goes under all accounts loses all of their money, no questions asked.
      Most Americans complain about the bails out without seeing how badly the alternative is like how other countries have it.

    • @lisboa63
      @lisboa63 Рік тому

      Dude, the banks agree to lend money because they are all friends.
      The bank manager makes the bonus, the zombie company gets the money, and they are all happy.
      Later, if the bank goes under, it just gets bailed out by the tax payers.
      This capitalist system is all corrupt.

    • @josiasnkwana9282
      @josiasnkwana9282 Рік тому

      Problem with monetary policy is always the bank approval framework. The incentive to build particular assets or to determine what assets are needed in an economy is always determined and created by the banks(this is of course my view)

    • @IN-hw8it6
      @IN-hw8it6 Рік тому

      Same with companies going public! 🤥

  • @andrs901
    @andrs901 Рік тому +130

    PSA: do not confuse startups with zombies. If there is a clear path to profitability, it's a high risk that might pay off in the future (e.g. Uber, Amazon). Zombies are hopeless businesses in established sectors that should have disappeared long ago. Something like Sears.

    • @tube.brasil
      @tube.brasil Рік тому +79

      Most startups are zombies which walk fast.

    • @andrs901
      @andrs901 Рік тому

      @@tube.brasil Startups are like children. You spend lots of money raising them, hoping they become self-sufficient.
      Zombie companies are like that patient with brain death whose family refuses to disconnect.

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 Рік тому +18

      Nice try😅

    • @tomcat8662
      @tomcat8662 Рік тому

      There is never a clear path to victory in a startup. Even Zuckerberg would never have imagined what the Facebook would become. They are simply extreme risk, extreme return experiments.

    • @odnewdylee
      @odnewdylee Рік тому

      Uber has never made a profit. Amazon is worth more than they make. 4 companies created all the growth of the nasdaq this year and they were the 4 companies who introduced chat bot tech. This is a paper tiger economy. It's all fake.

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie 10 місяців тому +4

    They don't talk about really big corps that live paycheck to paycheck in that they pay out all spare capital to investors (in the old days they saved for a rainy day). They have drastically cut or eliminated R&D, i.e. they don't have long term plans. They tell shareholders that the increase in stock price replaces payment of dividends. A hard dip is going to fulfill what Buffett says, "You don't know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out."

  • @maryhadda8420
    @maryhadda8420 Рік тому +20

    I've worked for a few of those zombie companies. One of them did go bankrupt while I was working for them. Twenty years later, they still owe me a month's pay.
    Another ex-employer went out of business when they got raided by the police, but that's another story.

  • @tom4ivo
    @tom4ivo Рік тому +70

    Japan's banks didn't want to write off loans because that would have indicated that they didn't expect the borrower to pay the loan back, which would have meant a loss of face for the borrower, something you don't do in Japan. So they kept bad loans on the books for 20-30 years, until the government finally said "Enough!", and made them remove the loans from the books. By then, though, it was way too late for the economy to fully recover.

    • @Thatanonguyintheback
      @Thatanonguyintheback Рік тому +12

      Nice narrative that has no substance to it

    • @andiandi-qq1by
      @andiandi-qq1by 10 місяців тому

      Can I make a friend? I want to study@@Thatanonguyintheback

  • @andrelinked
    @andrelinked Рік тому +22

    In my city there was this company that was kept open for 32 years after the first bankruptcie because the judge responsable for it would not allow any lawsuits to take place

    • @IN-hw8it6
      @IN-hw8it6 Рік тому +2

      Talking about companies like doordash? 😊

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol Рік тому

      :p@@IN-hw8it6

  • @peopleschoice9555
    @peopleschoice9555 Рік тому +21

    Simply put- Rich people providing zero value (business) have been getting billions of taxpayer money interest free and totally forgivable(bankruptcy). Now, replace that with a common joe, who got a credit card at 29.99% interest, who is one late payment away loosing its ability to ever borrow and going into downfall with no one to bail out. CAN WE put these people in jail now???

    • @michaelhutchings6602
      @michaelhutchings6602 Рік тому

      Let me guess, your solution is bigger government.

    • @tomcat8662
      @tomcat8662 Рік тому +5

      Never use a credit card unless you are doing it for some sort of reward points and you fully intend to pay off the balance immediately.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately theyre alsonthe judges and prosecutors

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Рік тому

      ​@@michaelhutchings6602If the growth is in commerce inspectors, auditors, and prosecutors, then yes. Corporations and their executives get away with far too much improprieties if not outright crimes.

  • @JoeKlunder1
    @JoeKlunder1 Рік тому +6

    This has seemed true, especially since the Great Recession. When times are good, "free enterprise, taxes and regulations stop our hard work ethic and innovation." When times are bad, "we need bail outs, too big to fail, etc."

    • @opencase9903
      @opencase9903 23 дні тому

      Joe, this is pervasive across America. When things are going well for us, we are full of ourselves, almost suggesting that others are envious and trying to keep us down. When things are bad, we want public support (of course, while still maintaining a modicum of self importance).
      Tech workers are a good example of this. When all companies were hiring, they felt they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Recently, they want sympathy from everyone else about how hard the job market is.

  • @brandino97yyc
    @brandino97yyc Рік тому +25

    I think government bailouts of large companies is one of the worst things that can happen especially banks

    • @Tricia-Tricia
      @Tricia-Tricia Рік тому +2

      I totally agree! 💯 Government bailouts for large companies, especially banks, can be incredibly problematic. 😡 It seems like these companies make risky decisions knowing that they'll be bailed out if things go south. 😤 It's unfair to smaller businesses and individuals who don't receive the same treatment. 🚫 Let's prioritize accountability and fairness in our economic system! 🙌💪

  • @tube.brasil
    @tube.brasil Рік тому +15

    Negative real interest rates (lower than inflation) will create all kinds of economic distortions and monstrosities.

    • @mvmlego1212
      @mvmlego1212 10 місяців тому

      Agreed. Thankfully, short-term treasury yields have returned to positive. The yield curve is still inverted, though...

  • @maryhadda8420
    @maryhadda8420 Рік тому +3

    I once worked for a company that had a bad business model. They lost money continuously, never showed a profit for any quarter AFAIK. Every time they ran out of money, they just issued more stock... AND PEOPLE BOUGHT IT! Hard to believe, but true. Eventually they got acquired by a competitor. It sounds to me like the competitor was no smarter than the stock buyers.

    • @andiandi-qq1by
      @andiandi-qq1by 10 місяців тому

      Can I make a friend? I want to study

  • @seopriority
    @seopriority Рік тому +22

    Great, now I have to spend all day picturing businessmen wandering Manhattan like it's the Walking Dead all over again 😆

  • @Fantom6400
    @Fantom6400 Рік тому +6

    It’s unfair that these zombie firms continue to get bailed out by the government and in many ways these get away by not paying taxes.

  • @masterstacks2030
    @masterstacks2030 Рік тому +40

    this only happens when money is costless to "create."

    • @1wun1
      @1wun1 Рік тому +10

      Or when the money creator isn't the one that suffers the effects

    • @pogiboy3571
      @pogiboy3571 Рік тому +4

      a number of spacs were created from cheap money... mostly offshore companies (dirty money)... another way of doing you got it... money laundering.

    • @adamkares7549
      @adamkares7549 Рік тому +3

      And to borrow. A lot of publicly traded companies main reason to exist now is not their product, but to work the gears of the financial system. Buyback stocks, issue massive 0% corp debt endlessly which means being profitable or caring about your employees is an afterthought to the major shareholders, whom are literally just scamming the system now.
      Our economy is running like a circus because it is run by actual clowns.

  • @mann234
    @mann234 Рік тому +2

    My take is when a company goes below $1 in price, Nasdaq do not let them do a reverse stock split. It kills stock holder value because when they jump from 0.5 to 5 dollar overnight through reverse stock split they simply invite the same process of shorters to hammer the stock back down to 0.5 dollars again. At 0.5 dollar after the 180 days or 360 day expires , let them simply move over to the OTC Market.

    • @andiandi-qq1by
      @andiandi-qq1by 10 місяців тому

      Can I make a friend? I want to study

  • @kyleturley7098
    @kyleturley7098 9 місяців тому +1

    When private equity takes over your company raids your pension and then stacks the company with debt. Then starts paying themselves bonuses and there consulting companies huge fees. Thats my view on that Yellow company

  • @DanielPanuzi
    @DanielPanuzi Рік тому +141

    Have any of you recently been monitoring your stock portfolios? I've recently suffered some pretty significant losses. A few growth stocks I had invested in looked promising at the time, but things aren't looking so good now. I thought my tech stocks would rise, but they have been falling. I've lost nearly $100,000 in the stock market.

    • @sting_grayl
      @sting_grayl Рік тому +3

      It’s precisely at times like these that investors need to be on guard against the next certainty. You don’t have to act on every forecast, hence i will suggest you get yourself a financial-advisor.

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      @AgueroBankz Рік тому +3

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      @AgueroBankz Рік тому +3

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    • @andiandi-qq1by
      @andiandi-qq1by 10 місяців тому

      Can I make a friend? I want to study@@sting_grayl

  • @bobbob-uo7vj
    @bobbob-uo7vj Рік тому +31

    Wait so government bailouts negatively affect the economy over time? Woah 😮

    • @placeholdername0000
      @placeholdername0000 Рік тому

      Depends on the exact situation. They can be beneficial if used right.

    • @andiandi-qq1by
      @andiandi-qq1by 10 місяців тому

      Can I make a friend? I want to study@@placeholdername0000

    • @billcipher2893
      @billcipher2893 9 місяців тому

      ​@@placeholdername0000 Can you please elaborate and take some examples?

    • @placeholdername0000
      @placeholdername0000 9 місяців тому

      @@billcipher2893 The early renewables industry. It wasn't profitable back in the day, but it has since become a great success.

    • @noclicheplease
      @noclicheplease 8 місяців тому

      😂 don’t know when it’s gonna burst, but this bubble is certainly getting bigger. But on the bright side, Biden did incentivize certain future industries to take root in America. Hopefully Trump will build on it.
      We don’t want to see the biggest economy failing.

  • @Invasupport-zi5lm
    @Invasupport-zi5lm Рік тому +32

    Why stay alive just to keep servicing their debts for eternity? It's useless. About rates, the Fed didn't raise further yet the market is going up. Weird. I'd say given this high volatility, wouldn't it be prudent to create a portfolio based on someone else's successful model? I've achieved a remarkable 21% ($130k) return in just four months via the model portfolio approach without entrusting my funds to anyone for management.

    • @Maestro130-bc6cb
      @Maestro130-bc6cb Рік тому

      My portfolio is not looking so good, and I believe it could perform better. Whose portfolio do you copy?

    • @Invasupport-zi5lm
      @Invasupport-zi5lm Рік тому +8

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    • @Invasupport-zi5lm
      @Invasupport-zi5lm Рік тому +4

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    • @ebubeawachie
      @ebubeawachie Рік тому +1

      Scam and fraud Bots are getting way smarter.

  • @normbograham
    @normbograham Рік тому +7

    I worked for one in the Tech Sector (if not two)! 1. One had a planned bankruptcy date, and the target bankruptcy date was posted on the fridge, so, none of the employees would be alarmed. I found that alarming. I found another job, and left. The company existed to take the risk, and expenses, and pass revenue to another company. They were looking to hire lots more developers, and I dont know why. They rented a home from the parent company's owner. 2. Another existed, because they assumed all the risk. The company was breaking copyright laws. they eventually got out of it, which I guess, was sortof unplanned. they actually still exist today.

  • @blueoval250
    @blueoval250 Рік тому +2

    Government should not be giving out loans or bailouts or subsidies or welfare or whatever your preferred term is.

  • @kallemueller3194
    @kallemueller3194 Рік тому +2

    In the decade of a booming economy in combination with low interest rates there was no problem. Cheap money was available to almost every business. Let's take real estate as an example, it was very easy for a company in this sector to borrow money, real estate prices rose on a monthly basis, so a firm in this sector could easily add a lot of leverage to its balance sheet. Now, debt has become way more expensive as interest rates went up, which also leads to the question if the underlying assets (real estate) are still worth that much.

  • @sutats
    @sutats Рік тому +1

    $700mil for $55mil, seems like a great deal.

  • @Raika63
    @Raika63 Рік тому +9

    We are too reliant on banks ("too big to fail") and need to make sure we prepare for situations in which they need to fail without destroying everything they touched.

    • @IN-hw8it6
      @IN-hw8it6 Рік тому

      Who would hold a those bonds? 😢

  • @stanislavkazakov6440
    @stanislavkazakov6440 8 місяців тому

    This is the best strategy I've ever come across. Thank you for sharing it with us.

  • @JasonB808
    @JasonB808 Рік тому +8

    The people talking this video are fine with business failing as long it’s not their banks that needs to be bailed out. 😂

  • @marcusfrilette110
    @marcusfrilette110 11 місяців тому +2

    @1:27, Heyyy, it's downtown Tampa

  • @ThejOH007
    @ThejOH007 Рік тому +10

    All these zombie firms and I can’t get a real estate loan 🙄

    • @mannsolo6294
      @mannsolo6294 Рік тому +2

      Why would you want to right now? Are you crazy!?

    • @nomobobby
      @nomobobby Рік тому

      ​@@mannsolo6294Because they'd like to move out of the parnets spare bedroom already. Also, why wait for a future interest rate cut that isn't likely to return soon? Even if the markets crash, 0% interest is a *terrible* idea because investors toss money at anything that might make money. And that leads to all kinds of other problems like the ones in this video.

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss Рік тому

      @@mannsolo6294 He wants to think outside of the box.

    • @vanesslifeygo
      @vanesslifeygo Рік тому

      @@mannsolo6294 🤣🤣🤣

  • @krumba100
    @krumba100 Рік тому +1

    There are companies that "make" money and companies that are doing a job. Providing a service or a product is always less profitable than selling air. Why then try to serve the people if you can lie to the people and take their money. Have you thought about the fact that when you shop for food a large amount of what you pay for is water, packaging and advertising. With non food products you pay more than 50% for the advertising.

  • @milosnestorovic1594
    @milosnestorovic1594 Рік тому +1

    It is Economy Today, Very Clear....

  • @Starship007
    @Starship007 Рік тому +4

    Even the general public felt rich buying million dollar homes paying only 3%. Now with higher interest rate they do not feel wealthy

    • @Classwarvet
      @Classwarvet Рік тому +2

      The general public didn't buy million dollar homes. Most people couldn't afford homes.

  • @JonathanAllen0379
    @JonathanAllen0379 Рік тому +1

    7:55 - Lotfi Karoui, "Chief Credit Strategist" at Goldman Sachs, based upon what he says here, is exactly the kind of person responsible, along with many others, for the crash that is looming on the horizon. These people never learn from precious disasters, no matter how many times they happen, and they are never punished appropriately for their recklessness and stupidity. Goldman Sachs should no longer exist, nor should any other companies responsible for previous crashes. They shouldn't get bailed out with taxpayer money while working class people are left to fend for themselves.

  • @gecho194
    @gecho194 Рік тому +1

    Legacy costs likely contribute. A new business with gig workers has lower costs than a business that has actual employees, provides them benefits / retirement and an actual living wage without having to work 3 jobs.

  • @justinbeghly1435
    @justinbeghly1435 Рік тому +1

    Simply put they are companies that have borrowed too much and don’t have the cash flows to make their bond or loan payments. Of course, as interest rates rise it becomes more expensive to refinance that debt, and defaults accelerate.

  • @bonwatcher
    @bonwatcher Рік тому +1

    Transportation from automobiles, airlines, railroads and all those banks and big insurance companies all have the government safety net of a bailout. Warren Buffett talks about businesses with a "moat" around their business models, but most of his investments are in those businesses he knows government will bailout which is his preferred "moat."

  • @Jazmin-ro3zt
    @Jazmin-ro3zt Рік тому

    Great piece!

  • @8platypus
    @8platypus Рік тому +24

    zombie firms in a zombie economy

    • @mattweiss7645
      @mattweiss7645 Рік тому +3

      ...that had a 5% GDP growth rate last year

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi Рік тому

      um... that was his point... it's not REAL GDP, it's inflation@@mattweiss7645

    • @8platypus
      @8platypus Рік тому +3

      @@mattweiss7645Learn your terms, Real GDP was only 2.1%. With 7% inflation, you are in the red buddy. I am sorry that the school system failed your.

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss Рік тому +3

      @@8platypus "I am sorry that the school system failed your." I'm still waiting, buddy.

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. Рік тому

      It really does feel that way. The moeny is running out, zombie firms, americans exhaussting their pandemic savings, and now the federal gocernment has posted a trillion dollar deficit.

  • @jwc1772
    @jwc1772 Рік тому

    Good quality expose 👏

  • @thisIsFunnyLolz
    @thisIsFunnyLolz 8 місяців тому +1

    And yet when the company i work for has profits drop 1% after the most profitable year ever, a bunch of my friends get laid off. wtf what a joke

  • @twlee1930
    @twlee1930 Рік тому +12

    Uber was unprofitable for 14 years before finally making a profit just this year. Would it be considered a zombie company that deserved to die? Lyft has never been profitable either. I think ride sharing is a great example of unprofitable companies that most people are happy they exist because of the service they provide.

    • @nomobobby
      @nomobobby Рік тому +4

      Uber might be one of the lucky ones, diversifying faster than most. Also if it's that good, shouldn't it easy to make it profitable to stay?

    • @andrs901
      @andrs901 Рік тому +9

      The video mentions that particular case, of companies that are unprofitable now but their business model might lead to future growth. You can't compare a company in a growing sector like Uber vs a true zombie company like Sears.

  • @zettaiEngineer
    @zettaiEngineer Рік тому +4

    The counterparties to zombie firms' unpaid debt will receive haircuts. Scrutinize aggregated or securitized debt instruments where bad paper will be laundered with the good.
    Also, neither the holders of fixed, longer term low rate loans (mortgages) as well as buyers of longer term, higher rate paper have plans to roll the paper thus contributing to a creditor cash crunch.

  • @thomasj.foolery7025
    @thomasj.foolery7025 9 місяців тому +1

    If you’re AEW, you just use Daddy’s money to stay afloat.

  • @JoslynShakur-e3p
    @JoslynShakur-e3p 9 місяців тому +1

    Nursing Centers . 1. St. James Nursing Center. 2.Father Murrays Villa Nursing Center

  • @jasonwiese3794
    @jasonwiese3794 Рік тому +12

    I feel one Of the greatest challenges that we first timers face in the ma rket is that we end up losing all we have,making it difficult to find ourselves back to our feet. My biggest advice is to always seek the services of a professional just like I did when I ventured into it for the first time. Big thanks to Jasmine Querida. I now make huge profits by weekly through her services while still learning to stand on my own.

    • @dmlexpress9600
      @dmlexpress9600 Рік тому

      I have never seen a trader as open and transparent as Mrs Querida with her clients. The way she decides to make a profit for her clients. she allows you to express your fears and she still rests your fears and that is my respect. I don't normally comment on videos, but this word should be included. she is really cool.

    • @franklinbright8736
      @franklinbright8736 Рік тому +1

      I'm new at this, how can I reach her?

    • @jessibarjenbruch7978
      @jessibarjenbruch7978 Рік тому

      It's amazing that you got to know her. she has been a blessing to me and my family.

    • @jasonwiese3794
      @jasonwiese3794 Рік тому

      ​@@franklinbright8736"Queridafx"

    • @jasonwiese3794
      @jasonwiese3794 Рік тому

      Queridafx is her info on telegram

  • @tommychestnut5335
    @tommychestnut5335 Рік тому +7

    An idea for a video would be dividend payers where you analyze large maturing cash cow companies like Google and PayPal that seem to be in the position of starting to payout growing dividends soon. I’m new in investing and still doing my research.

  • @elainemunro4621
    @elainemunro4621 Рік тому +13

    The boards of directors of these firms are facing decisions about how to keep their businesses intact or how to move ahead through mergers, acquisitions, etc. The wise investor will take a hard look at the financials of these firms before making a bid. Keeping the firm intact likely includes decisions on dividends and how to keep shareholders interested. Another spot for the investor is to look closely at the financials of these dividend payers.

  • @DarkSideCookies
    @DarkSideCookies 10 місяців тому +1

    Privatized Profits and Socialized Losses sucks

  • @cmath6454
    @cmath6454 Рік тому +2

    "It seems that auto companies run off of high debt and expecting government bailout."
    Yea no sht. 😂 You did it once before

  • @mitchwaddell25
    @mitchwaddell25 Рік тому

    Look at the cash flow statement and subtract out share based compensation (deduct it instead of having it listed as a net positive) and compare that to the income statement and see how many more (or less) shares outstanding. That will give you a starting basis on IF the company is actually profitable versus getting investor cash.

  • @NellJohnson-e2j
    @NellJohnson-e2j 8 місяців тому

    Your trading tips are a breath of fresh air! Thank you for sharing your expertise with us.

  • @danielchow1975
    @danielchow1975 Рік тому +3

    Waaaaaaaay higher than 10%. Especially when you consider what the real cost of labour is.

  • @Slide61
    @Slide61 Рік тому

    Zombies often start out relatively healthy (vs distressed) until PE sets up a lecherous relationship with exorbitant management fees and debt placed on them that the zombie company must service. Secondary leasing companies are often setup where the companies must lease previously company owned facilities. Even with all the debt they often actually looked pretty good on paper while interest rates were low. That's because operational cost (no new hiring, fewer rolls of toilet paper, the cleaning company shows up less) are significantly restricted increasing margins. But when they roll the debt over in higher interest rate environment today they are distressed. No way out

  • @tjsokkerplayer
    @tjsokkerplayer Рік тому

    Companies aren't incentivised to make a profit from a tax perspective, so they pay their employees more and spend more in the business staying around break even at best. Banks enable this behavior by lending out money to larger companies based on revenue numbers rather than on profitability. The bank just want to be prioritized as the first paid bill. The average individual has to play by different rules. Yet it is our country's federal reserve that lends money to the banks and encourages thier behavior.

  • @northernmetalworker
    @northernmetalworker Рік тому +1

    If you remove government spending, the issue would disappear.

  • @shabsfazl2082
    @shabsfazl2082 Рік тому +1

    Lucia Nathan is a blessed trader.

    • @milootto9420
      @milootto9420 Рік тому

      Options Insight," Headwaters Volatility's Matt Rowe examines the recent stock market volatility with Bloomberg's Lucia Nathan stock exchanges.

  • @hersdera
    @hersdera Рік тому +5

    My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in US.

    • @bernadofelix
      @bernadofelix Рік тому +2

      It's often true that people underestimate the importance of financial advisors until they feel the negative effects of emotional decision-making. I remember a few summers ago, after a tough divorce, when I needed a boost for my struggling business. I researched and found a licensed advisor who diligently helped grow my reserves despite inflation. Consequently, my reserves increased from $275k to around $750k.

    • @SandraDave.
      @SandraDave. Рік тому +2

      Please tell me how can I connect to your advisor. My funds are being murdered by inflation, therefore I'm looking for a more profitable investing strategy to put my portfolio to work.

    • @bernadofelix
      @bernadofelix Рік тому +2

      Finding financial advisors like Margaret Johnson Arndt who can assist you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.

  • @MiladDamgan
    @MiladDamgan 6 місяців тому

    Big fan of your strategy thanks you 👞

  • @Starship007
    @Starship007 Рік тому +6

    We had cheap money for too long, 20 years. The printing presses were going l wild especially past 2 years over inflating the economy. Now we are pulling back those dollars.

  • @FWtravels
    @FWtravels Рік тому +1

    Most people are told that you only need a good job to get rich. These billionaires are operating on a whole other playing field that most people don’t even know exists.

  • @CompoundingTime
    @CompoundingTime Рік тому +2

    Don't show mr wonderful in a finance video as a supporting voice for context. It undercuts the validity of the video.

  • @stevenmitchell7830
    @stevenmitchell7830 Рік тому

    It's not the speed that kills you, it's the sudden stop.

  • @gabrielcintron9841
    @gabrielcintron9841 Рік тому +2

    Lending money is a risk. Firms are not the problem but the banks that expect bailouts after they give money to every loser that knocks on their door.

  • @slovokia
    @slovokia Рік тому

    The audio for this clip was very poorly mixed and processed. It is very hard to hear some speakers while others are much louder.

  • @BrewerVera
    @BrewerVera 7 місяців тому +4

    I feel investors should be focusing on under-the-radar stocks, and considering the current rollercoaster nature of the stock market, Because 35% of my $270k portfolio comprises of plummeting stocks which were once revered and i don't know where to go here out of devastation.

    • @FaithAndrada-xo9ou
      @FaithAndrada-xo9ou 7 місяців тому

      Find quality stocks that have long term potential, and ride with those stocks. I have found it takes someone who is very familiar with the market to make such good picks

    • @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley
      @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley 7 місяців тому

      A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850K.

    • @AndersonFair-cy2bb
      @AndersonFair-cy2bb 7 місяців тому

      This is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? I'm in dire need of proper portfolio allocation.

    • @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley
      @Raymondcraw1967RaymondCrawley 7 місяців тому

      Well, there are a few out there who know what they are doing. I tried a few in the past years, but I’ve been with 'Whitney Kay Stacy' for the last five years or so, and her returns have been pretty much amazing.

    • @AndersonFair-cy2bb
      @AndersonFair-cy2bb 7 місяців тому

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran a Google search for her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

  • @krumba100
    @krumba100 Рік тому

    The banks and the Federal Government should think differently. We have forgotten the purpose of the government - it should support businesses that are needed for the people, not that are making money, because in a long run only the banks will remain. You cannot eat cash if no one is producing food...

  • @Takepermission1975
    @Takepermission1975 Рік тому

    Good programming

  • @LUK0BA
    @LUK0BA 9 місяців тому +1

    We outsiders think this is good for US commerce, imagine how many years Amazon and facebook took to be profitable.

  • @phanngoctuan323
    @phanngoctuan323 Рік тому

    VERY BEAUTIFUL

  • @valentinlishkov9540
    @valentinlishkov9540 Рік тому

    online scripts for sheet material products (cones, elbows,
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  • @Inkoknyto
    @Inkoknyto Рік тому

    Here another economic problem:
    The states are competing to attract new branches of (non-zombie) large corporations for the bet. In doing so, they outdo each other with tax breaks and other promotional gifts. A lot of (tax-)income is lost at the expense of the population. It seems the USA don't care as long as companies are big and rich enough. I have the impression that the middle class is suffering from this.

  • @Starship007
    @Starship007 Рік тому

    Our government with its debt with higher interest rates is taking a beating. It’s hard to print more money when high inflation and 33 trillion in debt.

  • @blackmanhoodeconomics1497
    @blackmanhoodeconomics1497 Рік тому

    So @3:25 we can have $374,500,000 in net assets on the balance sheet, $24,000,000 of which is cash, and still be considered a “zombie company” ?
    They really should get a hold of the definition

    • @justacollegestudent5147
      @justacollegestudent5147 Рік тому

      But what is the liabilities aka stuff you have to pay back. And a negative return on assets is really really bad. That means for every $1 the company spends on assets it receives .966 cents back literally losing money by being around.
      This can be okay if one believes the company to have a bright future everyone knows Amazon and the like lost a lot of money.
      It’s just really important to distinguish between a company with a high chance of becoming a market leader and a firm that just is losing money and limping along on loan based life support.

    • @blackmanhoodeconomics1497
      @blackmanhoodeconomics1497 Рік тому

      @@justacollegestudent5147 regarding your first few sentences the net asset figure @3:25 was positive meaning NOTHING has to be paid on it
      If you have $15M but owe $20M your company’s assets are -$5M according to GAAP
      But this video claims you can have $374.6M on the balance sheet and still be a “zombie”
      Crazy
      🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @bwilliams1815
    @bwilliams1815 Рік тому

    It is not the NEW normal, it just the normal. For decades I have seen this. America's greatest attribute is freedom. Freedom to try your own ideas and achieve your dreams. Unfortunately, Freedom to succeed also comes with Freedom to fail. Let those that fail, fail. Too big to fail is completely un-American and goes against everything that capitalism promotes.

  • @tjbellah349
    @tjbellah349 Рік тому +16

    Lost a lot of credibility featuring Kevin O’Leary, let’s stick to honest reporting please.

    • @davidli3582
      @davidli3582 Рік тому

      I like Mr. Wonderful. He makes great videos with Teddy Baldassare.

  • @Mrslykid1992
    @Mrslykid1992 7 місяців тому

    We need companies to start steering to more liquidity that pays off their debt if there are any debt oppose to increasing their debt via more additional loans.

  • @lberhold
    @lberhold Рік тому

    The lady at the start is wrong. Most zombie firms are actually new firms, they're the ones that IPO knowing they'll never be profitable, but hope they can sell to the next sucker.

  • @budstep7361
    @budstep7361 Рік тому

    8:15 yes, except that 2008 bailouts created a large chunk of these zombie companies in the first place! Bad Move!

  • @01SkullandBeton
    @01SkullandBeton Рік тому +1

    Solana - up 65% - possible to $950 in 2025, according to analysts 👍

  • @davidmclean5895
    @davidmclean5895 Рік тому

    Uber? Lyft? They've lost billions for years.

    • @vladimirofsvalbard9477
      @vladimirofsvalbard9477 Рік тому

      They finance old debts with new ones using the Reaganomics model we've practiced for 40 years.
      Artificially low interest rates have driven this country (and the USD) into the ground.
      I'm afraid that interest rates will need to be maintained at a high level for the next 10-15 years at minimum in order to get purchasing power back on track so that people can afford energy and shelter.

  • @glennr9913
    @glennr9913 Рік тому +5

    Sounds like the way Amazon began. Zero profit for years, as the stock market kept it afloat. Now it's a monster.

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss Рік тому +1

      How many of these companies will become the next Amazon, though?

    • @Classwarvet
      @Classwarvet Рік тому

      There's a difference. It wasn't that amazon wasn't turning a profit, it just kept reinvesting those profits for the long term. Zombie corporations were doomed from the start and only became a thing because they could get easy money.

    • @glennr9913
      @glennr9913 Рік тому

      @@amateruss Hopefully, none!

  • @Dangic23
    @Dangic23 Рік тому +1

    The people on the video saying zombie firms should not exist are the first ones that will go crying to the government for a bailout.

  • @doctork1708
    @doctork1708 7 місяців тому

    Any businesses including BANKS that need “bailout” money should NOT exist.

  • @Quick-n-eg쿠이크앤이지

    Aging population and young generation that are not motivated can be a factor. People need to be inspired just as in the 1960's

  • @derekschneider8922
    @derekschneider8922 10 місяців тому

    Alan Greenspan called it “creative destruction”. Example of Telegraph, and rail roads had to be left behind as telephone, and gas cars with interstates replaced them. Call them zombies, but Really it’s companies that have to change to maintain existence, thus creative part, unfortunately it simultaneously destructs the old...

  • @TrueGrantsta
    @TrueGrantsta Рік тому +1

    Hard to take any documentary seriously when they start with a clip of Kevin O'Leary, the same guy who lied about fully investigating that FTX was a legitimate business, and that SBF was totally trustworthy because of his parents.

  • @ManmayaMehta
    @ManmayaMehta Рік тому +1

    Nowadays these zombie firms are called promising start-ups. Same MO, different names.

  • @seanshong2048
    @seanshong2048 Рік тому

    As a guy who works for Rite Aid. This is very disconcerting.