The Celera 500L aerodynamic perfection is a huge enabler of surprising performance. Laminar flow makes a huge difference, but requires attention to details without compromise.
I saw photos of a very similar flying saucer prototype, back in the 1980s, so it's likely to be a relaunched project that was shelved, just as the lifting body concept was. The horizontal spin motion gyroscope effect would likely give a flying saucer its stability, provided there's some controlled counter torque/rotation, as is currently applied to a quadcopter drone or helicopter.
Sierra Nevada Corp is a terrible company and no one knows how they're still in operation. The same department that developed the Dreamchaser were responsible for Space Test Program Satellite 5, and that thing is garbage. It never worked for more than 2 weeks at a time, they rushed through the testing process, and they got their Contractor's Periodic Annual Review rating and recommendation changed after the Evaluating Officer noted their piss poor performance and recommended they never be awarded another contract. They wasted no less than $34 million on a project that was supposed to cost half that.
Manuel Camelo they based it off the Lifting Body experiments of the 1950s and 1960s. Basically the entire airframe produces lift, but they’ve never been good looking airframes.
DLR HY4 is Pipistrel Taurus G4 (the aircraft from a small Slovenian manufacturer that won the NASA Green Flight Challenge in October 2011). DLR (German aerospace research agency) developed a fuel cell to replace its batteries in HY4 version. (This craft is even on Slovenian registry.) A bit more background is welcome in videos like this.
The New World Foundation created a design for Estonian (tall) people with 8' of headroom in a miniature Sonic bi-plane. That was the most unusual plane in the works.
7. Celera 500L... no way will it be able to have the performance that they state with just that one small prop engine. ALSO... How will it rotate and land with a vertical stab below the fuselage without it hitting the ground?!
Cool video, some pretty out of the box engineering to achieve a couple of these aircrafts. I like the low earth orbit craft but why is it limited to only 15 trips?
I thought this video was going to be another one of those lame ones showing an ekranoplan without it's wings, and a bunch of CG promo clips. But it actually had some craft I hadn't seen before and some interesting info. Good video!
Lillium is not a jet; it uses ducted fan electrically driven propellors. Also the Stratolaunch is arguably the largest airplane in the world due to its wingspan, but the AN-225 Mirya is longer, heavier and has a higher MTOW.
I imagine those two fuselages on the last one nodding up and down independent of each in turbulence to the point where metal fatigue breaks the thing in two.
Sad that the US "kicked" Zapata and his hover/flying board out of the country. First the State of Florida , then California, and last Nevada. Zapata took his company overseas...
The strato launch dual body airplane seems like it wont work because both bodies need to land exactly same or the bounce or force will tear the middle wing. especially with cross wind landings. The middle wings has to be really flexible for landings.
do you have any knowledge of lighterThanAir craft that qualify under 103? we're talk'n small zeppelins. any links or snail connections on the subject would be most appreciated. thanks much, look forward to hearing from you. all the best, over and out!!
The big trouble with some single prop pushers is when you get to low speed near a stall and the plane wants to swap ends. The test pilots for the Lear Fan experienced this. I use to listen to their in-flight reports via an air-band radio while they conducted test flights at Stead , Nevada in the mid-1980s.
During wars lots of stuff was invented that wasn't picked up by mass manufacturing because of logistics. I really wish those huge Russian water skimmers were around, And I wish we still had blimps.
@@blaketracy4377 - Well, there was no war going on when I saw them flying over east Berlin back in 1967....and the Russians built quite a few according to Google.
In trying for a no propwash hovercraft to do hi•alt SAR tried a fanjet upside•down added an impulse loop to a circular wing, no dice. Right away a fluid impulse motor looked good & became a 6-motor 7.5•tons each lifting by impulse. The trick is to flip to compressible at the outlet & reduce counterforce to get a practical motor re: Kirchhoff & Bernoulli. Scifi's antigravity machine turns out to be a fluid impulse motor: Jetboard: bit.ly/3aZlXZN Flying car: bit.ly/2sDYmfZ Math: bit.ly/30Cz7qO Ymmv.
In the future, all passenger seats will be ejectable by the passenger sitting in the seat in front of that seat. The ejection device will will be armed only if a child is in the rearward seat.
Somethings wrong in those jet wing suit stats. Its hovering vertically... no way that could be done with just 50kg total thrust from 4 small turbines... id guess thats 4x50kg to give 200kg total.
The Defiant will save many lives if used for civil medevac. Many city airports have been closed, with main airports too far away from large hospitals. A very fast VTOL aircraft is necessary to transport quickly from far away. I was thinking that a mini Osprey would work, but it is too complex.
Stratolaunch is the company, the plane is called the "Roc" after the mythical bird. They were not intending to launch any of the in development variates of the dreamchaser from the Roc, but there was a proposal for launching a scaled down version using it.The crew and cargo Dreamchaser variates have always targeted the Atlas V as it's launch vehicle. In theory it could also launch on the Falcon 9, but the fairing is not currently larget enough to Accomodate it.
🔴 The "Stratolaunch" ( last plane of the video) is SO badly designed that I haven't a way to express my astonishment!!.... mark my words though, it's going to break in half and fall out of the sky!!!......
2:35 The DLR HY4 looks a lot like the Pipistrel's Taurus G4 electric aircraft that won the NASA Green Flight Challenge for the most efficient aircraft in 2011.
It's like the Chinese finally gave up on producing their own, and by "own" I mean reverse engineered Russian jet engines, and decided to try and build something with a Canadian/American flavor. They manged to hack Popular Mechanics and got hold of some declassified pics of Avro Canada's VZ-9 Avrocar. Probably saw the 300mph top end and thought "yea we can so do that". The Celera 500L is not that weird. It's borrowing heavy from NASA and the US Airforce lifting body designs like the X-24A and the HL-10 from the 60's and 70's. They are very fuel efficient. However at lower speeds it's the opposite. I can only assume the wing design is an attempt to eliminate this in part until it reaches higher speeds and higher altitudes which is where the design is most efficient.
DLR-HY4 for those who can go 7 hours without a bathroom break. J Cool plane, but better with a restroom, in-flight entertainment and a snack cart. I can't sit down in a plane for 7 hours without standing up at least once, unless I'm asleep.
Plenty of 2-place aircraft fly farther, faster, so there's no need to sit for 7 hours in some useless hydrogen powered plane. A Lancair Legacy, for example, can go 1,000 miles in less than 4 hours. - Edit: I didn't notice that the DLR-HY4 was a 4-place aircraft. In that case, we can compare it to a Lancair IV-P, which can go about 1,200 miles in 4 hours. The Lancair Propjet could go about 1,400 miles in less than 4 hours.
Not unless they somehow did manage to get it to travel through time. It looks to be based on the lifting body "flying bathtub" designs Nasa was testing in the 60's such as the Northrop HL-10. These were used in multiple tv shows and films in the 70's and later ,just ask Steve Austin or John Crichton ;) ua-cam.com/video/0CPJ-AbCsT8/v-deo.html
Nice video, also there is a new flying wing concept from Airbus, that's pretty cool too. I actually think that flying wing is the future, because you can pack way more people in it compared to just a regular tube with wings.
You really know your stuff thank you for introducing some of these planes we've had some my thing clear had a weird ribbon rear prop driven aircraft and it was pretty efficient
Dreamchaser is in no way reminiscent of the Space Shuttle. It is almost 1:1 replica of the soviet made EPOS (ЭПОС) or 105.11 from the project Spiral (Спираль) of general designer of the Buran (soviet made Shuttle), Gleb Lozino-Lozinsky.
I don't know why this was in my recommended, but I'll take one of those jet wings, the one with the 4 jetcats on it, and a parachute and jettisoning charge ;)
Fit the dreamchaser with the equivalent of a second stage booster then have the stratolauncher take it to 45,000 ft and launch it. Should make it to LEO from there.
I can't understand why these double/cockpit twin planes. I'm mean, for sure there is a reason. I just saw the last image and you can see one of them landing before the other one. Can't that be dangerous? Is there a pilot in each cockpit ?
The Celera 500L aerodynamic perfection is a huge enabler of surprising performance. Laminar flow makes a huge difference, but requires attention to details without compromise.
I love your videos because there is no clickbait
Nice straightforward presentation and not drowned out by music. Well done.
I especially appreciate that there is no ROBOVOICE!
And the one on the thumbnail is not only in the video, it's right at the beginning. This is UA-cam, where's my bait'n'switch?
Yeah what's up with the loud music that makes clips unwatchable.
WOW!! Nice Video!
I saw photos of a very similar flying saucer prototype, back in the 1980s, so it's likely to be a relaunched project that was shelved, just as the lifting body concept was. The horizontal spin motion gyroscope effect would likely give a flying saucer its stability, provided there's some controlled counter torque/rotation, as is currently applied to a quadcopter drone or helicopter.
The SP 1 with a jet engine on the back would be great.
Last one needs to be called 'The strains on wings launch.'
Sierra Nevada Corp is a terrible company and no one knows how they're still in operation. The same department that developed the Dreamchaser were responsible for Space Test Program Satellite 5, and that thing is garbage. It never worked for more than 2 weeks at a time, they rushed through the testing process, and they got their Contractor's Periodic Annual Review rating and recommendation changed after the Evaluating Officer noted their piss poor performance and recommended they never be awarded another contract. They wasted no less than $34 million on a project that was supposed to cost half that.
Manuel Camelo they based it off the Lifting Body experiments of the 1950s and 1960s. Basically the entire airframe produces lift, but they’ve never been good looking airframes.
DLR HY4 is Pipistrel Taurus G4 (the aircraft from a small Slovenian manufacturer that won the NASA Green Flight Challenge in October 2011). DLR (German aerospace research agency) developed a fuel cell to replace its batteries in HY4 version. (This craft is even on Slovenian registry.)
A bit more background is welcome in videos like this.
Love watching your channel!! keep up the good work
Cool videos.
The New World Foundation created a design for Estonian (tall) people with 8' of headroom in a miniature Sonic bi-plane. That was the most unusual plane in the works.
Its strange getting older. These things will be the normal for the new generations.
Russia has had counter rotating super fast helicopter better than US for over 30 years.
Great Video Again - Remember to Talk about new chips and GPU, good work
Thanks! I can definitely return to that topic, lot's of new developments.
@@Tech_Planet Also about quantum Computers and the optic computer
No prop plane is gonna fly at 65,000 feet unless its prop spins ridiculously and dangerously fast.
Would you please consider adding metrics to your stats and info given in these interesting videos?
Let's just pause a minute and give credit to him for elegantly avoiding calling it UFO.
7. Celera 500L... no way will it be able to have the performance that they state with just that one small prop engine. ALSO... How will it rotate and land with a vertical stab below the fuselage without it hitting the ground?!
Cool video, some pretty out of the box engineering to achieve a couple of these aircrafts. I like the low earth orbit craft but why is it limited to only 15 trips?
Congrats on 100k
Thanks, I did nothing heh, I am just fortunate to have subs stick around!
Just so you know, we prefer FACTS over opinions.
I thought this video was going to be another one of those lame ones showing an ekranoplan without it's wings, and a bunch of CG promo clips. But it actually had some craft I hadn't seen before and some interesting info. Good video!
Lillium is not a jet; it uses ducted fan electrically driven propellors. Also the Stratolaunch is arguably the largest airplane in the world due to its wingspan, but the AN-225 Mirya is longer, heavier and has a higher MTOW.
More...more...more like this video! I loved it!
2:26 "Let's go left- "NO let's go righ- *split* OOF!!
I wanted to say that!!
@@johnevans6399 Too late hehehe
can't split
DLR is just two gliders slapped together with an engine
The hover board thing looks great!
I imagine those two fuselages on the last one nodding up and down independent of each in turbulence to the point where metal fatigue breaks the thing in two.
JET PACKS HAVE BEEN INVENTED :0
The C-5 Galaxy may not be the biggest plane in the world, but it can do more than that 6 engine, twin fuselage abomination.
They had to ensure that the dream chaser didn’t get sucked into a wormhole, like with the tragic launch of Farscape 1.
4:09 great
the craze of Millenials on electric scooters is bad enough, I shudder to think what it'll be like when they see this
5 miles per gallon is NOT a definition of fuel efficiency
Awesome content! Interesting!
No Blackfly? That's a pretty odd and potentially disruptive vehicle.
Sad that the US "kicked" Zapata and his hover/flying board out of the country. First the State of Florida , then California, and last Nevada. Zapata took his company overseas...
Four passengers - uhh - where does the pilot sit?
Neat video, I would like to see more on the tech that enables precise control of Jetwing and hoverboard turbines.
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the jetback pack is the best design
The voiceover is much less annoying if you play it at 0.75 speed. Otherwise, fun and interesting vid.
Wow you just made a good video that is representative of the title. That is a rare occurrence these days.
Interesting. With your number 1 also being the saddest. Finding a consumer for that giant will be difficult to say the least.
Yeah, I don't know if the Strato is going to fly too much but it's one amazing plane!
Would have though NASA would snap up and stop using stupid rockets to get a few yards in air
I think that the double plane is a major waste of money.
The strato launch dual body airplane seems like it wont work because both bodies need to land exactly same or the bounce or force will tear the middle wing. especially with cross wind landings. The middle wings has to be really flexible for landings.
do you have any knowledge of lighterThanAir craft that qualify under 103? we're talk'n small zeppelins. any links or snail connections on the subject would be most appreciated. thanks much, look forward to hearing from you. all the best, over and out!!
I’d rather walk, thanks though.
good luck
Walking is the best exercise!
yea walk to japan until youndie
The big trouble with some single prop pushers is when you get to low speed near a stall and the plane wants to swap ends. The test pilots for the Lear Fan experienced this. I use to listen to their in-flight reports via an air-band radio while they conducted test flights at Stead , Nevada in the mid-1980s.
is this due to low airspeed over the control surfaces?
Dream chaser looks very much like Corre Goode's "Dart" used for his Moon travels.
4:00 looks like it could end in tears too. Same with 4:16. Spectacular control system though.
A helicopter with coaxial rotors -- wow! Just like those that the Russians first built 60 years ago.... what a clever idea!.
During wars lots of stuff was invented that wasn't picked up by mass manufacturing because of logistics. I really wish those huge Russian water skimmers were around, And I wish we still had blimps.
@@blaketracy4377 - Well, there was no war going on when I saw them flying over east Berlin back in 1967....and the Russians built quite a few according to Google.
In trying for a no propwash hovercraft to do hi•alt SAR tried a fanjet upside•down added an impulse loop to a circular wing, no dice.
Right away a fluid impulse motor looked good & became a 6-motor 7.5•tons each lifting by impulse.
The trick is to flip to compressible at the outlet & reduce counterforce to get a practical motor re: Kirchhoff & Bernoulli.
Scifi's antigravity machine turns out to be a fluid impulse motor:
Jetboard: bit.ly/3aZlXZN
Flying car: bit.ly/2sDYmfZ
Math: bit.ly/30Cz7qO
Ymmv.
....but there's still a kid kicking my chair!
In the future, all passenger seats will be ejectable by the passenger sitting in the seat in front of that seat. The ejection device will will be armed only if a child is in the rearward seat.
NONE of these look strange to me. Does that mean that I am strange?
The Defiant looks like they welded a submarine screw to the back.
Somethings wrong in those jet wing suit stats. Its hovering vertically... no way that could be done with just 50kg total thrust from 4 small turbines... id guess thats 4x50kg to give 200kg total.
A few of these look like they maybe capable of hitting their terminal velocity 😉
To much drag to do that effectively too!
You really just gonna leave Gravity industries out of this list huh?
The Defiant will save many lives if used for civil medevac. Many city airports have been closed, with main airports too far away from large hospitals. A very fast VTOL aircraft is necessary to transport quickly from far away. I was thinking that a mini Osprey would work, but it is too complex.
It’s not an aircraft until it flies.
Great vid
I don’t know if I would feel safe going only 120 mph in an aircraft.
Cool post ! Thanks.
Stratolaunch is the company, the plane is called the "Roc" after the mythical bird. They were not intending to launch any of the in development variates of the dreamchaser from the Roc, but there was a proposal for launching a scaled down version using it.The crew and cargo Dreamchaser variates have always targeted the Atlas V as it's launch vehicle. In theory it could also launch on the Falcon 9, but the fairing is not currently larget enough to Accomodate it.
🔴 The "Stratolaunch" ( last plane of the video) is SO badly
designed that I haven't a way to express my
astonishment!!.... mark my words though, it's going to
break in half and fall out of the sky!!!......
Yup , kiit just looks so wrong !
2:35 The DLR HY4 looks a lot like the Pipistrel's Taurus G4 electric aircraft that won the NASA Green Flight Challenge for the most efficient aircraft in 2011.
It is the exact same plane, just without batteries and with hydrogen tanks and fuel cell installed.
It's like the Chinese finally gave up on producing their own, and by "own" I mean reverse engineered Russian jet engines, and decided to try and build something with a Canadian/American flavor. They manged to hack Popular Mechanics and got hold of some declassified pics of Avro Canada's VZ-9 Avrocar. Probably saw the 300mph top end and thought "yea we can so do that". The Celera 500L is not that weird. It's borrowing heavy from NASA and the US Airforce lifting body designs like the X-24A and the HL-10 from the 60's and 70's. They are very fuel efficient. However at lower speeds it's the opposite. I can only assume the wing design is an attempt to eliminate this in part until it reaches higher speeds and higher altitudes which is where the design is most efficient.
Pretty cool planes and other things.
DLR-HY4 for those who can go 7 hours without a bathroom break. J Cool plane, but better with a restroom, in-flight entertainment and a snack cart. I can't sit down in a plane for 7 hours without standing up at least once, unless I'm asleep.
Plenty of 2-place aircraft fly farther, faster, so there's no need to sit for 7 hours in some useless hydrogen powered plane. A Lancair Legacy, for example, can go 1,000 miles in less than 4 hours.
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Edit: I didn't notice that the DLR-HY4 was a 4-place aircraft. In that case, we can compare it to a Lancair IV-P, which can go about 1,200 miles in 4 hours. The Lancair Propjet could go about 1,400 miles in less than 4 hours.
@@PistonAvatarGuy Yeah, the hy4 is pretty slow actually. I wonder if anyone else will try to build a newer fuel cell plane.
@@Tech_Planet What would be the point?
Celera- why do people keep falling for this kind of thing?
Dude have you seen the piaggio? I 100 percent believe the celera will hit that and I ACTUALLY fly a pc12
Low Earth orbit? I stretch myself way back in an ACME brand slingshot and launch myself into low Earth orbit.
Stratolaunch looks like something from Thunderbirds..Scott on one side and Virgil on the other..
The dream chaser was featured in an old Disney movie. An astronaut in king Arthur's court, or some horseshit back in the late 70's, early 80's.
It's based on a Russian copy of a NASA lifting body that actually did get launched into space
@@allangibson8494 nonsense
Not unless they somehow did manage to get it to travel through time.
It looks to be based on the lifting body "flying bathtub" designs Nasa was testing in the 60's such as the Northrop HL-10.
These were used in multiple tv shows and films in the 70's and later ,just ask Steve Austin or John Crichton ;)
ua-cam.com/video/0CPJ-AbCsT8/v-deo.html
2012listo how is it nonsense?
the hl 20 was a real design
@@kenetickups6146 I was high
These planes are awesome!
That drone like one that can carry up to five people is the best!
Too bad you can't yet include the Raptor, whose test flights are on hold until the test pilots can cross the country. Diesel powered SUV of the air.
Nice video, also there is a new flying wing concept from Airbus, that's pretty cool too. I actually think that flying wing is the future, because you can pack way more people in it compared to just a regular tube with wings.
I thought it was a good pun. Lol.
And a great video. !
Thanks heh
You really know your stuff thank you for introducing some of these planes we've had some my thing clear had a weird ribbon rear prop driven aircraft and it was pretty efficient
I’m surprised something as ugly as the stratolaunch made it as far as a test flight
Um, the numbers just released for the Celera 500 blow the PC-12 numbers away!
I think this is the plane of the future
With the STRATOLAUNCH i just mean WHY
Dreamchaser is in no way reminiscent of the Space Shuttle. It is almost 1:1 replica of the soviet made EPOS (ЭПОС) or 105.11 from the project Spiral (Спираль) of general designer of the Buran (soviet made Shuttle), Gleb Lozino-Lozinsky.
I don't know why this was in my recommended, but I'll take one of those jet wings, the one with the 4 jetcats on it, and a parachute and jettisoning charge ;)
أَماتَكُمُ مِن قَبلِ مَوتِكُمُ الجَهلُ
وَجَرَّكُمُ مِن خِفَّةٍ بِكُمُ النَملُ
وُلَيدَ أُبَيِّ الطَيِّبِ الكَلبِ ما لَكُم
فَطِنتُم إِلى الدَعوى وَمالَكُمُ عَقلُ
وَلَو ضَرَبَتكُم مَنجَنِيقي وَأَصلُكُم
قَوِيٌّ لَهَدَّتكُم فَكَيفَ وَلا أَصلُ
وَلَو كُنتُمُ مِمَّن يُدَبِّرُ أَمرَهُ
لَما كُنتُمُ نَسلَ الَّذي ما لَهُ نَسلُ
zero emissions means pollution is at the power plant
Fit the dreamchaser with the equivalent of a second stage booster then have the stratolauncher take it to 45,000 ft and launch it. Should make it to LEO from there.
You missed the tic tacs.
That's on the UFO Man's channel
Why do you dislike 0:37 the 500L so much...
Yes pleeeeaaaaase do a video on hydrogen powered planes... There is nothing on UA-cam
2:25 my question about this thing is - Why bother with such a twin-fuselage monstrosity if you can design a motor glider that uses fuel cells?
1:20 not coaxial, contrarotating. There is no such thing as “coaxial” on a helicopter.
I can't understand why these double/cockpit twin planes. I'm mean, for sure there is a reason. I just saw the last image and you can see one of them landing before the other one. Can't that be dangerous? Is there a pilot in each cockpit ?
@2:30
When you and your ex are still on friendly enough terms to do activities together but still need lots of distance.
Stratolauncher less flying fortress more spruce goose.
Yeah, I literally rolled my eyes at that line.
Looks like the slightest mistake would break it in half
Remember the show Thunderbirds it looks like it could have been in that show.
2:53 Hopefully there's a pilot in there somewhere instead of just 4 passengers?
Some amazing aircraft there!
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE " BLACKFLY" ???
@4:04...Well...unless you crashed into the ground first...or the building was more then two minutes away...but what a great two minutes.
Coaxial rotors.................the Soviets know all about it, and have for a long, long time.