Remember when they printed gardevoir ex and we all thought they were being thoughtful about card design and trying to fix the power creep? I feel so dumb for ever thinking that
@@CasuallyConversate but in all seriously a little power creep is normal but it seems like a cop out to lazy card design. Play the early sun and moon formats, they fixed the big basic only ex problem with gx's. It seemed like they were going to tone it back but they switched to this get your 300hp pokemon out and start one shotting everything. Maybe power creep was the wrong word and I meant to say thoughtless bad card design cause as soon as they printed charizard and pidgeot the cards have only gotten more ridiculous
I like the list you’ve put together. It accentuates the archetype’s strengths of consistency and tanking. The colourless typing, glass trumpet and bench space allow for a lot of creativity but that could all prove to detract from its core strengths. Even the Dusknoir line feels like a concession to consistency and the prize trade.
Is Manaphy needed with the double Bouffalant? With two Bouffalant Radiant Greninja can’t snipe and knock anything out, Regidrago VStar and Greninja ex are only knocking out a Noctowl, funnily enough not Hoothoot. Double Bouffalant is also resistant to Canceling Cologne, since the Bouffalant’s ability on the bench still provides damage reduction.
What do you think about Crispin in the deck? I like it with basic energies to allow for you to used the first attack and work toward the second attack if needed. This also allows you to play radiant greninja as well and let you still ko a raging bolt hitting for 240 instead of 220.
@@OmniPoke I think you should really help each other more, in these testing matches... most times I feel like Joe wins by simply being the better player, but that doesn't help showcasing the decks' power in any way. I dunno, I often feel like I don't see each decks' full strength in these videos, and this means they kinda miss their original point for me.
@@ciciuk3695 we’re both learning on the job for these new decks and matchups so it’s always going to be rough around the edges: for tabeltop games we play for hours on end over a couple days so we’re also a little brain fried too 🙈
Quick question: would a Veluza Sonic Egde be able to hit through Terrapagos Crown Opal attack? Asking for a friend who lost because of that rule in a pre-release.
Thoughts about playing Haxorus in Regidrago against it (+ against maybe Miraidon with it's DTEs and Lugia, when it rather attacks with more HP mons than Minccino)?
There was no Regidrago V on the board at the start of the turn so there would have been no way to evolve to Regidrago VSTAR and use Apex Dragon for a triple KO.
Remember when they printed gardevoir ex and we all thought they were being thoughtful about card design and trying to fix the power creep? I feel so dumb for ever thinking that
Power creep is good and important for a healthy game to have
@@CasuallyConversate does big pikachu holding you hostage? Blink twice if your safe
@@CasuallyConversate but in all seriously a little power creep is normal but it seems like a cop out to lazy card design. Play the early sun and moon formats, they fixed the big basic only ex problem with gx's. It seemed like they were going to tone it back but they switched to this get your 300hp pokemon out and start one shotting everything. Maybe power creep was the wrong word and I meant to say thoughtless bad card design cause as soon as they printed charizard and pidgeot the cards have only gotten more ridiculous
I like the list you’ve put together. It accentuates the archetype’s strengths of consistency and tanking. The colourless typing, glass trumpet and bench space allow for a lot of creativity but that could all prove to detract from its core strengths. Even the Dusknoir line feels like a concession to consistency and the prize trade.
I've been tinkering about with Glimmora ex and I think the funny flower MIGHT have some potential if Area Zero Underdepths sees a lot of use.
At 16:38 wouldn’t you only be swinging into drago for 140 because Jack used Rolling iron?
They fixed it lol.
Is Manaphy needed with the double Bouffalant? With two Bouffalant Radiant Greninja can’t snipe and knock anything out, Regidrago VStar and Greninja ex are only knocking out a Noctowl, funnily enough not Hoothoot. Double Bouffalant is also resistant to Canceling Cologne, since the Bouffalant’s ability on the bench still provides damage reduction.
@@CPG3333 mostly the poffin search is the upside when going 2nd against some of these aggressive sniping archetypes
What do you think about Crispin in the deck? I like it with basic energies to allow for you to used the first attack and work toward the second attack if needed. This also allows you to play radiant greninja as well and let you still ko a raging bolt hitting for 240 instead of 220.
@@KTZTheProteinMan we’re bringing a trumpet list to the channel soon!
Jack definitely could have just benched Kyurem and swung in G2 since you played the Colress yeah?
@@upstreampwnage3211 yea looks like an oversight
@@OmniPoke I think you should really help each other more, in these testing matches... most times I feel like Joe wins by simply being the better player, but that doesn't help showcasing the decks' power in any way.
I dunno, I often feel like I don't see each decks' full strength in these videos, and this means they kinda miss their original point for me.
@@ciciuk3695 we’re both learning on the job for these new decks and matchups so it’s always going to be rough around the edges: for tabeltop games we play for hours on end over a couple days so we’re also a little brain fried too 🙈
There was Manaphy on the bench
@@teo_zappa there definitely was not lol
Quick question: would a Veluza Sonic Egde be able to hit through Terrapagos Crown Opal attack? Asking for a friend who lost because of that rule in a pre-release.
@@R3dm3talHdZ yes that’s an accurate ruling
Turtle gang is BACK
I’m SO excited for this deck
Have you tested Zoroark vstar already?
@@hchianelli not yet tested but it’s on our list!
Thoughts about playing Haxorus in Regidrago against it (+ against maybe Miraidon with it's DTEs and Lugia, when it rather attacks with more HP mons than Minccino)?
@@D4mnis it would help against this matchup for sure but don’t forget terapagos can still straight up race when it goes first in the matchup
It's a shame you need 100 HP Bouffalants for this deck because there's some interesting ones in the format but they've got 120/130 HP
I’m really excited about Terapagos coming because I’ve been playing Greninja ex. 😂
@@TheDildaddy turtle soup
Wouldn't Noctowl be insane in Regidrago too?
yes but regidrago is already so cramped in space which can ruin its consistency
also bench space would be an issue with regidragos ogerpons fezandipiti with occasional hawlucha mew and squawkabilly
@@waedoface4313 there's this new stadium though which allows for 8 pokemon on the bench ;)
@@arthurt5285 thats another piece u need and would need and as i said space is very cramped in regidrago compared to something like raging bolt
i love to see a regidrago player malding
Who is Regighost?
@@jfh06d we are all regighost
I think Drago can easily counter this DTE Terapagos with Haxorus & Collapsed
@@ajackson Terapagos can still go first and win a shootout with a couple of gusts in 3 turns
in game 2 wasnt kyurem the perfect counter in turn 2
@@leonardschmid486 yeah looks like a play he missed
There was no Regidrago V on the board at the start of the turn so there would have been no way to evolve to Regidrago VSTAR and use Apex Dragon for a triple KO.
@@eNVeedeos No he's talking about actually using Kyurem itself since Joe played Colress
Why you discard kyurem he can attack with one energy in Game2 😢😢😢
Needs trumpet
@@nickfanzo trumpet list coming soon
@@OmniPoke in my testing it’s too nuts not to play. Thanks!