You mentioned around 16:30 finding the confusion between breakcore and atmospheric dnb odd, and while i agree that nobody could confuse a wax doctor track for x.nte - sweet memories, most of the confusion comes from the recent development of atmospheric breakcore as the most popular subgenre of breakcore right now. Amospheric breakcore actually shares a lot of the features of amospheric dnb (long sustained pads, high pitched vocal samples, deep 808s, and fast breakbeats), but with everything turned to 11 (the pads are often chorused or distorted and bathed in reverb, the vocal samples are goofy anime samples, the 808s are distorted akin to contemporary trap production techniques, and the breakbeats are, as all breakcore is, exceedingly frenetic) Example Atmospheric Breakcore tracks include: TURQUOISEDEATH - Guessabelle Vierre Cloud - moment 5ubaruu - Recluse Juglist Sewerslvt - Hopelessness DJ KLAPTRAP - Immune Support Nfract - Fayes Theme Vertigoaway - betai_bl3nder-bak Yung Lain - Spirit Runner windowshopping - EGO DEATH!!! andy pls - 65 saves Catastrophi - L'appel du Vide TOKYOPILL - Dream Sequence PURITY:FILTER - Xerox Drip IX Fall$ - dropping dead at midnight I hope you enjoy some of these!
That's not a subgenre of breakcore, none of those tunes you linked even remotely sounded like breakcore really, they're definitely more akin to normal Jungle/DnB honestly. The Breakcore/Atmos confusion actually stems from Tik-Tok, where people found out sewerslvt was inspired by goreshit (an artist which made both DnB and Breakcore tunes) and mistakenly connected sewerslvt's style of music, (which many of them never heard before, this is very important!) to Breakcore. That's it really, a simple mistake which snowballed to people applying a wrong label to the wrong genre/subgenre of music.
15:30 Right on the money. I discovered Deep Jungle along with Dwarde and Tim Reaper on UA-cam while working during the pandemic and now have a number of vynils from that label.
you should add chapter markings to the track breakdown so everytime i want to make an atmospheric track i can see the specific bits i need to plagiarise
I had to use UA-cam’s wack auto audio removal to silence Back From Eternity because otherwise I would have got de-monetised 🙄
Your jungle history videos are always a treat. Good stuff as always 👍
It's always exciting to see a new Tim Cant video in the feed, awesome stuff m8! Congrats on the new release, big ups!
You mentioned around 16:30 finding the confusion between breakcore and atmospheric dnb odd, and while i agree that nobody could confuse a wax doctor track for x.nte - sweet memories, most of the confusion comes from the recent development of atmospheric breakcore as the most popular subgenre of breakcore right now. Amospheric breakcore actually shares a lot of the features of amospheric dnb (long sustained pads, high pitched vocal samples, deep 808s, and fast breakbeats), but with everything turned to 11 (the pads are often chorused or distorted and bathed in reverb, the vocal samples are goofy anime samples, the 808s are distorted akin to contemporary trap production techniques, and the breakbeats are, as all breakcore is, exceedingly frenetic)
Example Atmospheric Breakcore tracks include:
TURQUOISEDEATH - Guessabelle
Vierre Cloud - moment
5ubaruu - Recluse Juglist
Sewerslvt - Hopelessness
DJ KLAPTRAP - Immune Support
Nfract - Fayes Theme
Vertigoaway - betai_bl3nder-bak
Yung Lain - Spirit Runner
windowshopping - EGO DEATH!!!
andy pls - 65 saves
Catastrophi - L'appel du Vide
TOKYOPILL - Dream Sequence
PURITY:FILTER - Xerox Drip
IX Fall$ - dropping dead at midnight
I hope you enjoy some of these!
Interesting, I will check these out, thank you!
also, this video was a great guide! i always enjoy your stuff, its such good quality (especially with the playlist you give to study afterwards)
That's not a subgenre of breakcore, none of those tunes you linked even remotely sounded like breakcore really, they're definitely more akin to normal Jungle/DnB honestly. The Breakcore/Atmos confusion actually stems from Tik-Tok, where people found out sewerslvt was inspired by goreshit (an artist which made both DnB and Breakcore tunes) and mistakenly connected sewerslvt's style of music, (which many of them never heard before, this is very important!) to Breakcore. That's it really, a simple mistake which snowballed to people applying a wrong label to the wrong genre/subgenre of music.
Congrats on your release on Curvature ✌
Absolutely phenomenal deconstruction of the history and progenitors of this wonderful style of music.
15:30 Right on the money. I discovered Deep Jungle along with Dwarde and Tim Reaper on UA-cam while working during the pandemic and now have a number of vynils from that label.
Love these videos Tim. Thanks for making them.
always learn so much from your videos - cheers tim
Massive release on curvature!! Thanks for the excellent info on this video. 👊
im loving the track breakdown so far, nice to know the choices you make and why, (and to see what matches my own too) haha
Great Video Tim. Thanks
I just picked up a set of Cdj100s and a RDJ2 mixer off ebay, this was the push I needed 👍
always love your videos tim cant
instant like
Started noodling with this style of music 10 months ago, still consider myself a beginner 😂
Cheers 🍻
Great video!
I could watch these all day wow amazing info!!
Good point, for whatever reason I completely glossed over the chance of breakbeat techno/house being a precursor for anything DnB related.
I appreciate the history must be hard to untangle if you weren't there! :)
Nice one Tim - quality mate!
thank you!!
Blu marten is my go to every month also seba valley of the moomins
I think you got a shout out on one of those Bukem Kiss shows. Let me go through my tapes this weekend and I'll let you know which one it was.
@@philadams9254 I forgot about that but you’re right, I was sending GLR terrible demos at the time 😆
I am in the TIMCANT loop. OMG
Nice vid once again. I feel you should have shouted out thought forms's yt channel, as he focusses on this type of music, unless I missed something
awesome vid and track, you'll be tim can soon mate
id also add pariah - mainframe, subcreatures, limbo, blackout. to the atmospheric/tech dnb list too mate.
Tim can’t I love u
I never knew you liked atmo dnb
LOOOOL
7:36 where's the link to that show LTJ played? Am I just not seeing it or did you forget to include it?
@@MrMarcLaflamme whoops, that’s in the description now: ua-cam.com/video/rJodP6FUP54/v-deo.htmlsi=hz-6KTgV01dgcFJ7
@@TimCant thank you!
What is the song at 12:47?
That's Blu Mar Ten - Santur
@@TimCant aaah thank you! Great work as always, your videos are incredible and I hope you continue them!
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you should add chapter markings to the track breakdown so everytime i want to make an atmospheric track i can see the specific bits i need to plagiarise