25:16 Dom: now that I'm in this series, I want Fanatic to win. 25:26 Dom: They just piss me off, everytime I have hope in them, they just let me down. 😂 Fool me twice...I feel for Dom, TES does the same thing to me.
They won in lec by their early game and teamfighting. This was good even even today. They lost in lec due to macro. This was shown today aswell. @@xJokers27
its not the first time, theres a weird disconnect between fnatic drafts and the way they play it. Jankos talked about this regarding the FNC vs DK game, where FNC were in an okay gamestate and had Smolder scaling, but decided to keep randomly overfighting early instead of slowing it down, and lost. Its like they dont understand why they are drafting the champs they draft and just play the same way regardless of comp.
humanoid is a "macro genius" but his macro is on such a high level that nobody can understand it. thats why fnatic is famously known for their impeccable lategame macro where they never throw the leads they get early and close out their games properly. humanoid truly is the most clutch player in europe
@@zackery5678 Easy to seige and take towers either due to fast tower pushing (ziggs) or comp that enables team to group as one (death ball comp). In this comp Jax/Ziggs are really quick at taking towers. Problem was Swain was dog shit. Smolder would've been the most ideal pick but Humanoid lost complete confidence in playing it. Swain would've worked well but Humanoid cannot pick champs that doesn't net him a 10cs lead.
The main theory is that LPL teams are getting big paychecks from FNC and FLYQ CEO's to drop 1 map so their fanbase thinks that their region has improved LMAO
@@Ganlixthat’s not even the point lmao. A bad team could still intentionally drop one game and roll next two to a trash team like FNC. WBG doesn’t have to be good , they just need to be a lot better than FNC for that theory to be valid. 😂
Crisp has been running down literally every weibo series this tournament. He's unbelievably bad. He gets caught so many times even on picks like rakan and costs weibo losses with his genius ideas like in game 1 where he tries to 1vs5 them with leona while his team is in the river. Worse of all he's been like that for 3+ years. It's a insane how he keeps getting jobs.
I saw Crisp's peak as FPX fan when we won Worlds but since then he has gone downhill same as my team I guess 😭 but I do miss that team Gimgoon Tian Doinb LWX and Crisp out of all of them only Tian managed to stay somewhat close to his peak.
@@pratikroy227 Not really. His performance dipped super hard the next year (2020) and then stayed that way for a while until last year, where his domestic performances were pretty good. He's been even better this year, too.
Does it really matter. Perkz was insane but doesnt perform anymore. Same with Humanoid for the last 4 years or sth but he still gets his shots at worlds and this happens. He might have been one of the best but he doesn´t perform either.
Razork made the calls in the TES game that lost it after it looked at least ok. Went to dive bot 2 v 4 and just died. Dived with smolder and seju (?) with a scaling comp, and they just ran in between towers died and lost it. Ran in several times in surely loosing fights. Watch voice comms he called it. They can keep the roster but they need an extra macro coach. The players are mechanically well theres no obvious replacement for any role.
@@jore5725 that doesn't change the fact he has been the most consistent and best player of the team. Faker solo gifted worlds to deft. That doesn't mean he was bad that year.
@@akshaymishra3674 you can change all 5 players and problems will be the same if management doesnt change. How many rosters do we need to get this? They need to kick Dardo and get specified coaches like G2. A coach for macro 2-3 coaches for positioning or single roles and a good analyst. They have none of that because Sam doesnt want to spent the money when he can keep it himself. THIS is the core problem. It has been even before 2018. Screaming for roster changes wont do anything. You ll see next split when they kick 1 or 2 players and issues are still there. Just like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that and the 4 years before that.
@@akshaymishra3674Jun has been most consistent and in worlds it's been Noah and Jun. razork was just a ghost most games since worlds started he just excells vs EU pool
I really hope Humanoid gets replaced. I'll take Nisqy, Perkz, Jojo, whoever. Just throw Humanoid out. Oscar and Noah feel like they are being held back and that's a weird feeling
Bro no way you think Oscar is being held back with such horrific laning which he hasn't fixed for an entire years. Noah also has let down fnc on so many important moments.
@@GothPaoki Noah has been better, though, since MSI. And Oscar is not very good, but Humanoid is the first that needs to go and then the changes to coaching staff and management need to happen.
@marcosa2000 Renekton only becomes good after Steraks, which Breathe could've gotten if Crisp didn't run it down and made it tough for him to play the game. Leona isn't really a Frontline like Alistar or Rell. She's basically good for chain CC. WBG comp was a big gamble, it's good if you get early lead but terrible if you fall behind which happened because of Crisp and the team collapsed.
@@poros4588 Wdym Leona isn't frontline? That's pretty dumb. Also, Renek is more tanky after Sterak, yes, but he's also frontline, even if you don't get an early lead
I think what was more impactful was Weibo picking Nidalee into Fnatic. Early game is the only thing Fnatic are known for and Weibo learned the hard way
Idk man it's just so annoying to see Humanoid play like he's the super star midlaner who's gonna outplay every gank just to die every single time. That guy seriously had/has the potential to actually rival Caps but apparently he just doesn't have the drive to see it through. Maybe if he went to a different org he'd get back some of the motivation to prove himself but it's pretty clear that he has either given up completely or at least on this org.
They lost the fight because they got baited by tarzan. Like all they had to let him do was do that. Stupid thing and run away. And then just leave him and they would have gotten away with the kill, but I think all out of the position and they got Uber a wall, so Israel could just shoot at them like they just needed to let him go. It's like yeah, that was dumb and he basically inted, but by chasing him. You will be inting, so you just have to like let him do it
Crazy to me how professional players can make fundamental mistakes. It’s just further proof that unforced errors are the thing that differentiate a trophy and a plane ride.
I'm EU fan and Im telling this which probably most people agree with, Mad Lions should be forbid to participate in worlds regardless which place they finish domestically. Somehow this team always manages to reach Worlds and performs absolutely abysmal! Every year for past years they perform worse than bottom tier LEC teams would and I'm not joking.
Basically a bit originating from Dom's take (fact) that the West can't play Renekton well, and that China is by far the best region when it comes to playing Renekton. so when you hear him say "he is speaking alot of mandarin" or something similar, he is basically impressed with the Renekton play happening, from either a Chinese or Non-chinese player regardless
FNC has the same problem that western teams had the last 4 to 5 years into asian teams. They have like one good game but after that they run out of steam and lose everything afterwards. There is just no endurance, no patience, no discipline.
Western teams just aren’t clean. It’s never like a mega clean win where they just dominate the game from start to finish. It’s a sloppy chaotic win where the enemy team is given chance after chance to win. Like even G2, they win but it’s not clean and then when they lose it’s normally because of some stupid fight where they over force for no reason.
My friend watching: hey I didn't watch much league, what are fanatic good at. Me: they usually are an early game team who likes fighting. My friend: at least they will get to siege better with grubs and herald if they are strong early. Me : ...
Doesn't FNC just last pick Vex? Is she not good in comp play or something? WBG picked 4 champs that dash... (maybe 3 if the Gnar jump doesn't count). Picked Swain into an extremely mobile comp... people in my silver games counterpick based on comp better than that...
Good riddance, FNC is my favorite team but good lord this entire year has been so frustrating, its even worse than last place from winter 2023 because at least those guys never let me down. Change is needed and I hate to say its humanoid. FNC as a whole is the most anti clutch team
Guy literally saying maybe they can 5:28 do something mid 5:37, then suggest driving onto the enemy, and then they die and he starts flipping bricks saying why would they do that? Dude what are u on
Dom is a true league connoisseur: "As a Fnatic hater, if they play this good, I still want them to go beyond swiss stage because they deserve it." This is why Dom is my favorite league co-streamer: Extremely genuine (and thus controversial) to the extent of hurting his own career and the kind of passion and expressing passion and emotion that is too real unlike Caedrel.
25:16 Dom: now that I'm in this series, I want Fanatic to win.
25:26 Dom: They just piss me off, everytime I have hope in them, they just let me down.
😂 Fool me twice...I feel for Dom, TES does the same thing to me.
Watching Fnatic give up every grub, give up dragons, give up 3 towers actually made me so pissed off. Just stay home next time.
FNC Macro AWARE
The worst thing for me is that this is our (EU's) 2nd seed!!! Its so embarrassing. How can this ever be the 2nd best EU team...
Should have given up their world spot as well
these cowards are disgusting
They won in lec by their early game and teamfighting.
This was good even even today.
They lost in lec due to macro. This was shown today aswell.
@@xJokers27
>drafts tower taking team
>doesn't take towers
What did fnatic mean by this
its not the first time, theres a weird disconnect between fnatic drafts and the way they play it. Jankos talked about this regarding the FNC vs DK game, where FNC were in an okay gamestate and had Smolder scaling, but decided to keep randomly overfighting early instead of slowing it down, and lost.
Its like they dont understand why they are drafting the champs they draft and just play the same way regardless of comp.
@@DW_25 humannoid =not human
humanoid is a "macro genius" but his macro is on such a high level that nobody can understand it. thats why fnatic is famously known for their impeccable lategame macro where they never throw the leads they get early and close out their games properly. humanoid truly is the most clutch player in europe
what makes a tower taking team? im asking out of genuine curiosity i dont understand what that would entail
@@zackery5678 Easy to seige and take towers either due to fast tower pushing (ziggs) or comp that enables team to group as one (death ball comp). In this comp Jax/Ziggs are really quick at taking towers. Problem was Swain was dog shit. Smolder would've been the most ideal pick but Humanoid lost complete confidence in playing it. Swain would've worked well but Humanoid cannot pick champs that doesn't net him a 10cs lead.
As a long time Huma-hater this warms my heart in a weird way
Same mane been hating since day 1 nemesis seems like jesus christ himself compared to him and dont even talk about caps, he is in a different universe
bro just refuses to flash lmao
how the f did fnc lose the 18 grubs the 3 games????
Jun to weibo. Crisp is griefing his team every game, jun is getting griefed by his team every game it's the perfect match.
Lol. That would be interesting.
Man noah and jun had a pretty good tournament
Sure, even Oscarinin was okay. At least he wasn't solo losing any games.
The main theory is that LPL teams are getting big paychecks from FNC and FLYQ CEO's to drop 1 map so their fanbase thinks that their region has improved LMAO
Well Weibo was not good. Fnatic was just trash
@@Ganlixthat’s not even the point lmao. A bad team could still intentionally drop one game and roll next two to a trash team like FNC. WBG doesn’t have to be good , they just need to be a lot better than FNC for that theory to be valid. 😂
Flyquest took a game off HLE
@@OMAR-vk9pimaybe HLE received that check too?
@@kk-cy3sz too bad skt didn’t they spend the series slapping g2 around
Jensen hates Dom. That has to be the explanation. XD
The titles and thumbnails are insane! Good job, Mr. Editor; good job, Mr. Artist.
37:46 38:08 39:20 44:41 45:58 Dom going through the stages of grief with the swain pick.
"Train to Busan" had me rolling
Humanoid: nah i'd loose
Crisp has been running down literally every weibo series this tournament. He's unbelievably bad. He gets caught so many times even on picks like rakan and costs weibo losses with his genius ideas like in game 1 where he tries to 1vs5 them with leona while his team is in the river. Worse of all he's been like that for 3+ years. It's a insane how he keeps getting jobs.
Hasn’t he been the shot caller on several of his teams?
I saw Crisp's peak as FPX fan when we won Worlds but since then he has gone downhill same as my team I guess 😭 but I do miss that team Gimgoon Tian Doinb LWX and Crisp out of all of them only Tian managed to stay somewhat close to his peak.
Crisp has been bad even last year. Him and Xiaohu are big frauds that were carried by TheShy and Weiwei.
Now they’re carried by Tarzan and Light
Yea it's insane how much most of these players have fallen off. Though I'd like to see doinb on a decent team again.
@@pratikroy227 Not really. His performance dipped super hard the next year (2020) and then stayed that way for a while until last year, where his domestic performances were pretty good. He's been even better this year, too.
Fuckin' christ. Now Humanoid is gonna come to NA with Fresskowy and both will look like they're the greatest mid laners in the region.
Nope. There are allready too many migrants from other regions stronger than them. Only in mid tier NA teams would be place for them.
Humanoid is literally one of the best EU midlaners in history after the goats(caps perkz). He just has some really big flaws simultaneously.
Does it really matter. Perkz was insane but doesnt perform anymore. Same with Humanoid for the last 4 years or sth but he still gets his shots at worlds and this happens. He might have been one of the best but he doesn´t perform either.
@@F4M3Resistance fair point
33:49 aware
'Jax at worlds' buff in full effect in this series
Unbelievable clutching by Humanoid this series
good to see both weibo and TL absolutely trolling the game 1 drafts 👍
Editor dont gaf spoiling the series in thumbnail
the teams matchup spoiled the series tbf
@@zachrhoden1😂😂😂😂lol
Yes especially after watching game 1 it is simply impossible for Fnatic to win@@zachrhoden1
You don't watch NA and EU matches thinking that those subhuman dogs can actually win, do you?
at least they don't have to travel back home far, just take the bus tbh
I think WBG is worst compare LPL team but see FNC Still lose to this team , it's over.
Dom is slowly turning into a rat like Caedrel
worst thing is, hes gonna play aka wintrade for them next year too
Fnc should kick everyone but razork and give him what he wants.
Or sell the spot if they cant afford it
Razork made the calls in the TES game that lost it after it looked at least ok.
Went to dive bot 2 v 4 and just died.
Dived with smolder and seju (?) with a scaling comp, and they just ran in between towers died and lost it.
Ran in several times in surely loosing fights.
Watch voice comms he called it.
They can keep the roster but they need an extra macro coach.
The players are mechanically well theres no obvious replacement for any role.
@@jore5725 that doesn't change the fact he has been the most consistent and best player of the team.
Faker solo gifted worlds to deft. That doesn't mean he was bad that year.
@@akshaymishra3674 you can change all 5 players and problems will be the same if management doesnt change.
How many rosters do we need to get this?
They need to kick Dardo and get specified coaches like G2. A coach for macro 2-3 coaches for positioning or single roles and a good analyst. They have none of that because Sam doesnt want to spent the money when he can keep it himself. THIS is the core problem. It has been even before 2018. Screaming for roster changes wont do anything.
You ll see next split when they kick 1 or 2 players and issues are still there. Just like last year, and the year before that, and the year before that and the 4 years before that.
@@jore5725 yeah Dardo is the biggest problem ngl , since he joined org has gone downward
@@akshaymishra3674Jun has been most consistent and in worlds it's been Noah and Jun. razork was just a ghost most games since worlds started he just excells vs EU pool
I really hope Humanoid gets replaced. I'll take Nisqy, Perkz, Jojo, whoever. Just throw Humanoid out. Oscar and Noah feel like they are being held back and that's a weird feeling
Oscar is bad too 😂😂
Bro no way you think Oscar is being held back with such horrific laning which he hasn't fixed for an entire years. Noah also has let down fnc on so many important moments.
@@GothPaoki This series Oscar was held back, yes. I absolutely stand behind that sentiment
@@GothPaoki Noah has been better, though, since MSI. And Oscar is not very good, but Humanoid is the first that needs to go and then the changes to coaching staff and management need to happen.
MAREK BRRRRRAZDA
The ONLY reason WBG lost game 1 was because of Crisp deciding to run it down and draft with 0 Frontline.
I wouldn't call Renek/Leona no frontline, but maybe that's just me
@marcosa2000 Renekton only becomes good after Steraks, which Breathe could've gotten if Crisp didn't run it down and made it tough for him to play the game.
Leona isn't really a Frontline like Alistar or Rell. She's basically good for chain CC.
WBG comp was a big gamble, it's good if you get early lead but terrible if you fall behind which happened because of Crisp and the team collapsed.
@@poros4588 Wdym Leona isn't frontline? That's pretty dumb. Also, Renek is more tanky after Sterak, yes, but he's also frontline, even if you don't get an early lead
I think what was more impactful was Weibo picking Nidalee into Fnatic. Early game is the only thing Fnatic are known for and Weibo learned the hard way
Leona isn't frontline when you try to 1vs5 enemy team with her while your team is kilometres away
Idk man it's just so annoying to see Humanoid play like he's the super star midlaner who's gonna outplay every gank just to die every single time.
That guy seriously had/has the potential to actually rival Caps but apparently he just doesn't have the drive to see it through. Maybe if he went to a different org he'd get back some of the motivation to prove himself but it's pretty clear that he has either given up completely or at least on this org.
why would you pick red side and then pick a blind champ whom you've never played professionally and is totally out of meta? lmao.
Levi on Shyvana and Inspired on Nunu might have broke his brain
32:37 Tarzan was NOT giving seoul..
Guys guys
Humanoid is in fnatic until 2026
😂🤣😂🤣
I pray for eu for the next 2 years
why not dive for the penta at the end tbh...one guy can stay and hit the dead nexus but would be hype
Yet better performance then all split
42:36 LOL grunt
They lost the fight because they got baited by tarzan. Like all they had to let him do was do that. Stupid thing and run away. And then just leave him and they would have gotten away with the kill, but I think all out of the position and they got Uber a wall, so Israel could just shoot at them like they just needed to let him go. It's like yeah, that was dumb and he basically inted, but by chasing him. You will be inting, so you just have to like let him do it
22:35 could be Kai Cenat botlane
Crazy to me how professional players can make fundamental mistakes. It’s just further proof that unforced errors are the thing that differentiate a trophy and a plane ride.
Humanoid clutched so much he froze up
Clutched so much he stalled it.
The run time fooled me
I'm EU fan and Im telling this which probably most people agree with, Mad Lions should be forbid to participate in worlds regardless which place they finish domestically. Somehow this team always manages to reach Worlds and performs absolutely abysmal! Every year for past years they perform worse than bottom tier LEC teams would and I'm not joking.
does Humanoid forget flash?
Wasnt fncs coach on renegades?
Are we getting BLG vs PSG?
Humanoid showing exactly why Swain is getting a rework 😭😭
Further proof of league of Skarner
Humanoid = professional paycheck stealer.
Nice and crisp 480p
Can someone explain the top lane speaking Mandarin joke?
Basically a bit originating from Dom's take (fact) that the West can't play Renekton well, and that China is by far the best region when it comes to playing Renekton. so when you hear him say "he is speaking alot of mandarin" or something similar, he is basically impressed with the Renekton play happening, from either a Chinese or Non-chinese player regardless
Fanatic are big game hunters. They cant be bothered by small time Weibo.
Honestly fnc did better than i thought they would
FNC macro was something to behold
42:36 lmaooooo
FNC has the same problem that western teams had the last 4 to 5 years into asian teams. They have like one good game but after that they run out of steam and lose everything afterwards. There is just no endurance, no patience, no discipline.
Western teams just aren’t clean. It’s never like a mega clean win where they just dominate the game from start to finish. It’s a sloppy chaotic win where the enemy team is given chance after chance to win.
Like even G2, they win but it’s not clean and then when they lose it’s normally because of some stupid fight where they over force for no reason.
My friend watching: hey I didn't watch much league, what are fanatic good at.
Me: they usually are an early game team who likes fighting.
My friend: at least they will get to siege better with grubs and herald if they are strong early.
Me : ...
Bro thinks he’s Showmaker AINTNOWAY
Lets give Skarner twice in a row.
SPOILER BLOCK
His comment is the spoiler blocker. He’s not requesting a spoiler block at the end
Library so quiet
0984 Hershel Island
Jun to C9 pls for the love of god save me from Vulcan
GAM TIME
Fatnatic* feel bad for Razork man cant G2 just yoink him
EU deserves to get a slot taken away.
wheres the sack during worlds? can no one join dom?
His streams are better without gillius yapping about nothing
Too many voices in the call is distracting.
Dom wants to focus on analyzing the games.
Jesus man, he's already dead!
Doesn't FNC just last pick Vex? Is she not good in comp play or something? WBG picked 4 champs that dash... (maybe 3 if the Gnar jump doesn't count). Picked Swain into an extremely mobile comp... people in my silver games counterpick based on comp better than that...
Just keep razork jun at any cost, oscar alreadu resigned, get carrzy and beg nemsis back
Good riddance, FNC is my favorite team but good lord this entire year has been so frustrating, its even worse than last place from winter 2023 because at least those guys never let me down. Change is needed and I hate to say its humanoid. FNC as a whole is the most anti clutch team
Pls do the vod review, I want to know exactly how much I dislike fnatic
Guy literally saying maybe they can 5:28 do something mid 5:37, then suggest driving onto the enemy, and then they die and he starts flipping bricks saying why would they do that? Dude what are u on
NA>>>EU
LoL
lmao EU
Spoiler
Vi just sucks. I hate it every time I see it
Dom is a true league connoisseur: "As a Fnatic hater, if they play this good, I still want them to go beyond swiss stage because they deserve it." This is why Dom is my favorite league co-streamer: Extremely genuine (and thus controversial) to the extent of hurting his own career and the kind of passion and expressing passion and emotion that is too real unlike Caedrel.
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