If you live with a narcissist, you will observe their energy and behavior. Their resentment and hostility towards me was at such a high level. Talking to them about their awful behavior will increase their resentment towards you even more. They want you to fail and be miserable like them. You have to get away from them. They never learn and are unteachable.
They just want to tear you down. I had some awful to the soul comments about how I wasn’t an artist, I was a craft maker, how I needed a better education (despite having two degrees), how I’m immature and basically however I have got by in the world is a fluke. I was repeatedly told how someone else (new supply) was so much better than me…despite that person certainly was not. They are vile, vile people.
I agree with this too. As soon as they get bored and look for some other source of Supply and then creating some form of triangulation, I actually ran and have gone no contact. This also did not work on me.
I've even known one try to use affection( way over the top) as triangulation to put me in my place when witholding from me. It was bizarre to watch and so transparent!!!
And THAT’S where the key lie. That horrible experience led me to discover me. After the hate and rumination subsided I was left to ask myself a couple questions: What the hell was that? Why would you allow that? Those questions led me to the discovery that my entire family are narcissists. I have been abused my entire life. That kind of subtle insidious abuse was normal to me. And so the healing began. Keep going!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I’ve disabled all my social media so he has absolutely no way of watching me at all. Feels so freeing! I’m loving these outside vids with all the birdsong and background noises. Feels like walking and talking with a friend. 🌷
@@avaandbrice7776 Really well. Still off social media and not sure if I’ll ever log back on again. It’s helped shift my focus inwards and to other things that really matter. I hope you’re doing well!
Yea sir! For some… it takes hours, days, weeks, or a few months to recalibrate self and be able to move forward. For others… it takes months even years to heal, rebuild, and bounce back. It’s like stepping in dog $hit. It takes great effort to clean the shoe. The crack, the crevices, and sometimes the smell will still linger on for years like little land mine reminders acknowledging you, yeah! You stepped in it alright. Like animals marking their territory… Cluster B’s always $hit where they eat and a whole lot more… Stay alert! Stay alive! Stay strong! Peace ✌️ Thanks Joe ☕️
Hi Joe. Thank you for another wonderful video. I totally agree with picking up on the narcissist’s bad energy every now and again. There are definitely hooks on a spiritual plane latched onto you even following a brief entanglement. But praying, staying upbeat and empowered and getting out into and walking in nature is just the medicine. There is nothing more magical and uplifting than being out in nature. It’s always great to see the magic in the world. Have a great week, Joe 😘😃
I love your voice. So soothing. Additionally, everything you said in this video is spot on. It is quite amusing to see how the person who manipulated, lied, and played you like you wasn’t worth nothing, try so desperately to get your attention, lurk 👀 and spy on you because they want to know what’s going on in your life lol. These people truly are jokes and once people realize this they will ultimately defeat and deflate the demonic Narc once and for all. Thanks Joe. I love listening to you.
Indeed, Joe has a beautiful voice, it's so calming! Of course the content of his videos are beyond brilliant and genius! Helped me tremendously on my healing path! Love to get my daily share of Joe!!!
Blah blah blah spying on someone because you want to keep tabs on them & initiating gang stalkers to use their privacy against them is not the same thing but both are illegal & make you look cray cray ✌🏽
It’s envy and anything good about you makes them see you as patronizing arrogant and judging them so they are hugely premature in going into rejecting mode at any sign of you not being exactly what they want which Changes constantly bc they are crazy. Very good point Joe how we take on their feelings without realizing
It’s been almost 8 months since I walked away from her after we were on and off. I haven’t watched any narc videos in months because I’ve really been healing but I’ve noticed random thoughts of her have surfaced recently and it’s been a little frustrating but I’ve done the work to stay strong through these ruminations. You’re right, I had a sense of “is this really me thinking this?” It’s hard to describe but I feel fine and unbothered by the thought of her but these thoughts of her will pour in. Funny enough my best friend ran into her last week which was when the thoughts started. He told me she’s still the same and in his words “there’s death behind her eyes” which I found funny. It was a difficult road on my healing journey because she stalked me after ghosting me and telling me she didn’t want to find out that I hurt myself after we broke up. I was confused and hurt and angry for a few months and then I woke up from the dream. I haven’t been able to get myself to be with anybody romantically yet which is where a lot of my depression and loneliness comes from but I know that this too shall pass and I will find somebody amazing someday. I always remind myself: if you loved somebody like her imagine the love you’ll have for somebody that actually cares about you
No truer words have been said. I don't want anymore romantic partners. I gave myself 💯 to her and I don't want anyone else. I'm gonna start refocusing my energy into a clean slate. I'm gonna let the old self die. I see the new version ahead, and that's what I want. It's time to make changes and let God take over. He makes all things new. ❤
I didn't believe the whole energy thing but some days I will just feel really low and be thinking about the covert narcissist all day and just can't get them out of my head no matter what. It's definitely weird and it has been over a year since I was last discarded
I’m a energy worker and when my narcissistic send me energy that’s how I feel I kno what my own energy feel like so on the days when he just pop in my head out the blue or I’m feeling like I miss him I kno that’s him sending me his energy and my awareness is interested only way you can get over the energy being send is to call all your energy back when you feel that way and ask to release that people energy out your field and go do a activity or action that you like and watch how you feel for the rest of the day if work like magic! ❤
Yes. Rebuke that in Jesus's Name. I also actually start seeing the narcissists name pop up on tv shows or something im reading, and his name isnt common, or see his doppelganger when im out... weird stuff like that. I rebuke it all and send it away.
Me neither that much and just today I felt so heavy. Like really sad, when I didn’t in weeks. Today I also woke up at 3.33AM. Had to google it, because that happened now for the third time in a row… and now this Video. So I’m almost convinced it’s spiritual.
I have experienced picking up on their feelings and energy, and at times it is a completely, empty black space with no emotion whatsoever like a cold, dark hole. However, I have noticed that the worse the feelings are - more anxiety, fear, anger, etc. - usually indicates some kind of hoover is coming.
O boy….its like you read my mind today. Bad nights sleep, bad dreams, feeling frustrated out of nowhere…drove this morning to the supermarket, the song came on that reminds me of him…wtf ?! My feelings of annoyance have turned in to amusement now, I’m obviously feeling his energy (this has happened to me on a few occasions over the past few months). Anyway Joe, always a pleasure to hear your voice, affirming what I know to be true. And keep recording outside if it means we get longer videos 😂😂….🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️
Same. The bad feelings, the bad nights sleep, and the nightmares suck. I can't watch TV because I don't want to get triggered by watching something that reminds me of her. It's been 2 months since discard and I'm stuck in a " time lock". The break up feels like last week, but it's been 2 months. I feel like a raw nerve. Crying spells, and depression haunt me. I thought she loved me, but I see it wasn't real. Sucks.
@@clintonnagy1662 Sorry to hear you are struggling. I came to the realization recently that the "so called" feelings of love the covert narcissist had for me just weren't real. It was all fake. Knowing this wasn't real love has helped me to move on to find someone real.
A few days ago I was driving a close friend of mine to a party. She had to go to a grocery store to buy something. When done, we drove by a large parking space nearby where a small group of people was standing and talking together. Suddenly I saw my nex standing with the group and we made eye contact. My first reaction was to burst out laughing LOUDLY and my car windows was open, she and the group heard it 😂 I saw that she was stroking her eyebrow and was sort of smiling embarrassedly 😂 I was diagnosed with Complex PTSD long before I met her. But I think it's a really good sign that I have healed very well from her abuse when my first reaction was to burst out laughing loudly in the car when I saw her. I think my reaction sent a clear message to her that I am healed and have moved on from her and that she didn't even broke me and my spirit, and I'm stronger then ever mentally 💪
I’m very sensitive and I pick up on their sextual thoughts physically at times, especially when I’m going through low points at times as it happens in life. It always freaks me out. It feels like a violation of my energy. That’s when I know I have to ground myself through exercise, walks, eat healthier, doing something I love, hearing music etc to reach a higher frequency where they can’t reach me. These beings are low vibrational and their highest point is pride anything other than that they can’t get past that, but we can.
Imagine thinking you have the right to violate someone's privacy & truly believe that person has to accept that you will never stop & just learn how to live with it instead of simply leaving them alone 🤔 yea you're gonna fall hard & I will be over here laughing at you. Let this play out until the end ✌🏽
Joe, your ramblings are gold. As an empath I know he tries to reconnect though in another state. 23 years together. I'm in the house a decade of abuse occurred, sage and prayers to cleanse, removing his leftover belongings to a shed. Still have court dates. he's trying to control through continuances. But I am stronger, don't care about those any more, and becoming more aware to block him energeticly.He's taken on false identities to post a comment on a public UA-cam channels. That part is pathetic. He will never forget me, there is no one else that will be as amazing as me. I'm not puffed up, it's just true. The thing that bugs me is what did she do to him to disassociate and create this fantasy world. I have my plan to get out from under the financial abuse, in months I will truly be free. Thanks for all you do.
I didn't become strong because of the hell they sent me through, I just became more self aware, sensitive, and learned how to pay way more attention to what people DO not what they SAY, and if those two don't match, it's manipulation. If I can survive the horror show with a narc, I can survive anything. You will get to know your strengths and weaknesses dealing with one of them.
Another great video, Joe!! Man, your videos have been so on-point. Interesting & beautiful images, as always. Narcissists are definitely lurkers. I was just hoovered a couple days ago at my job. I watched the ex slowly drive by in his work truck, possibly spying. I had a good view of outside and out of nowhere, I saw him driving by. I know his work truck and the co. I'm sure he saw my car outside and I believe he saw Me inside, too. Then, he drove off. He knows where I work. He use to come in my job while we were seeing each other. Then, after the discard, I never saw him come to my job the whole time, until recently...a year since discard. Very peculiar, lurking, keeping tabs, whatever. He's been blocked & no-contact. 🚫 He has no idea what I been up to or anything. The month of May was when I was discarded and it's been a whole year. I'm over him, the manipulations & games. I'm thriving and doing well. Stay away from Me.🙅🚫
It sure seems like there is a demonic component to this whole especially covert narcissist thing. I used to pray with my so called "best friend" and "sister in Christ" almost every day for years until the devaluation started and continued to get very ugly. What has happened has been a crazy nightmare. Trying to learn what my loving Father is patiently teaching me. . .
It's been almost a year no contact. I've worked hard on my healing journey with weekly therapy, journaling, joining a support group. He caused a great deal of trauma throughout our 4yrs together & I'll be working through that for some time to come, but I feel strong. I've gained wisdom and self esteem. It's hard for me to fathom that I looked at him as if he was special. He's just a gross slime ball. A manipulator, sex addict and a predator. Thank god I eventually came out of the fog and faced reality head on.
Your voice, words and knowledge are so calming. I’ve been struggling to sleep and these videos are so calming and help me relax on an evening and make sense of my rumination. Thankyou
This all resonates and I could pick up his emotions. I would occasionally text and ask if he was thinking about me at that moment and he would be astounded, or I'd go to text him and he would text me at the same time. I've learned to discern his negative emotions and I've broken the trauma bond. 3 months ago I thought I'd never be over him and now he's been dumped by the supply he cheated on me with and has no job, he's miserable while I'm soaring high.
you are spot on about picking up the thoughts/feelings, u r calm but out of nowhere u feel thoughts that u normally don't ever think, I have wondered about this for very long time. if you could make another video on that topic as well.
They target people who they know will fall for their facade. For example: My ex told me she thought I had such an innocent face when we first met. She said she knew she could feel safe with me. I told her she didn't know me well enough yet. 😅 Another thing she did during the dry spells of her last marriage, she would hang out at the VFW with the older guys to gain attention. Her ex husband didn't like it but she did it to antagonize him then say he wasn't paying attention to her. Later, I noticed she played alot of mind games with her ex boyfriends and played the victim claiming she was abused after the relationship ended. It's a sick game.
I think that like the opposite poles on a magnet they are drawn together. I have heard this analogy used so many times. I do not think that this is by chance…..but then what do I know.
Thanks, Joe! I feel that amusement now, thank God I finally broke through!! But definitely I went through confusion, sadness, anger, wanting revenge…I think I feel that indifference now! Wasn’t fun at all until I’ve reached this point!
I know the feeling of lurking. I have/had a narcissistic “friend”. It’s amazing how obvious a using narcissist can be. She called me on the date she knew something was supposed to happen. She’s otherwise stayed quiet. Perhaps, it’s because, I still seem a warm person, that may be oblivious, but she’s unsure whether I’ve sussed her out. I have. I may know exactly where her mind is, which is to keep tabs on whether or not she can move in with me. She cannot.
Narcissists target people who vibe at a highest level…. Enough said… Well actually I can tell that just one day with that narc gave me so much anxiety afterwards I had nightmares. Just being next to them for 2-3 hours is enough to pick up on their vibes. It made me think they were my twin flame bc I felt him bombarding my senses and thought it was a sign… It was only trauma
The answer to your question of why you want to keep going when you are outside: theres no ceiling. Low ceilings promote focus. High ceilings bigger and higher thoughts. No ceiing = no bounds whatsoever.
I’m glad I found this video as I’ve been becoming more thoughtful about my feelings lately. I’ve thought it was really weird that I find myself almost ‘missing’ this person on occasion that I was only in a talking phase with and even fixated on them at times. I’ve gotten a lot better at distinguishing mine from theirs and am starting learn to steer my thoughts and feelings away from it more.
I definitely an relate to feeling his thoughts. I started to have trouble catching my breath. Now that I am ready to fully let go, i don't find that happens. When I felt it, I would find messages in spam and blocked calls. It was a little spooky. I felt haunted.
I wonder if you research these perspectives or if it’s from experience and your head. It’s spot on! I’m just questioning why I can’t verbalize it but in my head unconsciously I know! We have similar wounds. My mother is an abusive narc who wants to control the family and come from a lineage of women who break men. 5 years no contact so far. Staying off social media and showing off your growth and success is 🔑. The devouring mother complex is truly satanic.
I swear you & I think very much alike - thanks for talking about the being sensitive to their emotions / thoughts. It sounds "twinkly" but I think that trauma bond makes an almost psychic level of connection. But, as Sam Vaknin points out about narc "introjects" (imaginary snapshot of their supply victim) - healthy people also have this in a way. You have an imprint of their personality deep in your psyche, you KNOW Them. You have it with your close friends and family too. You can imagine how they think & feel. It may or may not be telepathic, but its about as intimate as it gets, which is why its so painful to break it & leave.
I remember in an older video Joe said it’s like narcissists are “almost psychic.” That explained a lot! This video also brings up information that I needed to hear, that when I think about the narcissist from time to time and trust and believe I’m no contact, I wonder why I might be thinking about them and it’s a possible I’m just picking up their energy. Also, when he spoke that they have a need to check up on you after you’ve gone no contact, so true for me as the person who I nicknamed Medusa, “shows up” at a grocery store that I’m known for shopping at, kind of a specialty place and they can go anywhere else, cuZ it ain’t that special and it’s not even near where they live and yet they show up there all the time and sometimes when I look up and staring at me. I’m not afraid of any physical threat because they are a covert, narcissist and play the fragile victim, but in my opinion because of narcissistic abuse, the real danger is in should perform and having a conversation with them. So when I see them, I just keep going and ignore them.
@@billdux3271 yes! I think he said it’s succinctly and aptly. That weird extra sense they have. Desperate to store of old memories. But one of my favorite anti-narcissism saying is “don’t take debate and don’t feed the animals. “ And so I keep a big healthy distance! even though they just keep showing up, it shows exactly the point you make. The last thing I want to do is find out where they are. But they find me and I’m so grateful I know just to keep the no contact vibes going.
If you know he's a narc, move on. It might just save your life. I went back, she's now divorced me after 33 years, stolen my kids away from me, I nearly damn near lost my house. I have been left with severe anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts. She made up total lies about me to friends who now have nothing to do with me. She left like flicking off a light switch or changing a pair of shoes, after 33 years, 2 kids and we lost a baby as well! I'm almost fully healed now but it's taken me 2 years!! If he's a narc and you take him back he will punish you even more. They come to steal, kill and destroy and they enjoy it! They WILL leave you mentally, physically and spiritually ill if not 6ft under.
Let me say this... I wouldnt be the strong person I am without going through heartache. Jesus suffered horribly to show the world real love. If my emotional wounds from last my Narcissistic relationship helps/saves someone else then I know its worth the pain and suffering. Just because we dont expect the outcome to go in our favor doesnt mean we didnt accomplish anything. It means God let us learn the lessons required to help someone else and ourselves. So, Im grateful to have met my ex even though it wasnt perfect but I know my feelings are real, and I wont deny them because she meant something to me but it didnt work out.Im sad its over but I have to work on myself and pray I can find happiness again. All wounds heal in time. The universe was designed this way for reason. God knows what he is doing because unanswered prayers are the best protection GOD can give you. I dont see it now...but I know he wont decieve me. GOD can neither decieve nor be decieved. Amen.
8:28 bang on, I have very good reason to know the truth of this, backed up with tech at the time, would take far too many words to share - what I will share is something I’ve developed subsequently, as it may help someone, even yourself- so I do this & I’m trying to remember to do as a daily practice : I visualise internally my light ‘force’ & rapidly spin it, so it’s at an intense speed & power, & huge in itself m, so as an internal tornado, I then blast it out 360 degrees as a blinding forcefield of pure white brilliant but dense light, so like a fog but made purely of blinding light, so it blasts out in a huge circle around me at great distance & then I pause it & hold it there, & say internally nothing that means me harm will penetrate & then just at the very edge of the circle, so like a skin, I solidify the light into a mirror, pause again, & then send it slowly spinning. Try it, on the incidences you’re talking about, it stops it.
Wonder what happens if you don't offer the privilege of an online presence at all? No shared friends or friend groups, what if you were strangers before your relationship? You're not reaching out and it's complete silence from your end? They'll get the message and stay away right? I'd love to know because much of the recovery information out there assumes everyone's life is readily accessible online. Thanks
Well for me, I do have an online presence but I blocked them on every single social media account & application. Blocked their family, friends to lock that door completely…. But these people are sneaky they find an open door somehow… I blocked my narc and went no contact dec 31 2023. But just last week Saturday I was hoovered and tricked They added me on Snapchat under a fake name and probably knew cause I don’t use Snapchat as much I don’t really care who adds me or not. And proceeds to ask me how I was and I responded until she said something like “I know you never want to talk to me but please lets talk” And I was like woahhhh, is this this birddd??? How the heck do you stoop so low to hoover me under fake alias… I blocked them again…. And the thing is when I went no contact, I had a belief that this narc is too egoistic and prideful to come hoovering after I basically shut the door in their face… but apparently most narcs are the same they never learn or want to give up So tbhh, your narc can still find one small crack to come through, you could even get flowers randomly to your home
I watched a video related to politics in my town which I'm interested in..I saw my Nex in action, using his supposed Feminism to lure yet another woman in and talking to his actual main supply, a woman he knows for a long time. She knows I accused him of being an abuser but sticks with him. Seeing him talking to those two women made me realise how much I misinterpreted his facial expressions while traumabonded to him. It's so scary, because he looks so mean....
I spoke to him last night he called me after Valentine's discard...today i feel sad i miss his so much i have tried my best im not perfect...i missed him😢😢😢😢
The world has become more magical than I could ever imagine it’s wierd in hindsight this is what she always feared but how did they know it would become like this she always said your gonna leave me and that don’t get too cocky and leave she even told family not to compliment me because I was gonna get big headed and leave her I used to love her so much but she was such a burden I had to let her go I couldn’t take it and now my life is literally like a movie it’s unreal I look better I have wayyyyyyy more charisma I have the best luck now I travel so much make more money I even learned I have adhd and am treating it like everything is so peal right now she seemed to have known this all along this what would happen
I'm still struggling he used to call every day and now he ghost me but called me yesterday and said he will come see me not this weekend but the following week....now.leave me in a.state of confusion 😢😢😢😢
Zero contact, move on. You deserve to be someone's number 1 girl not part of his hareem. Get yourself respect back and move on. If you want to get your own back be the best possible version of you that you could ever be. They hate that.
You should at least every now and then do a video when you let your thoughts flow uninterrupted. If it ends up being a 20 minute video then so be it. Thise who want to listen will stay the entire time
Joe, you have a gift, your format is beautiful and so are you. Thanks again my friend. 🤗 Oh, and my magic came back, you reminded me of this. Can't remember when it came back but it did. 🤍
If you live with a narcissist, you will observe their energy and behavior. Their resentment and hostility towards me was at such a high level. Talking to them about their awful behavior will increase their resentment towards you even more. They want you to fail and be miserable like them. You have to get away from them. They never learn and are unteachable.
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I am aware of this today and it hurts because he is my brother.
They just want to tear you down. I had some awful to the soul comments about how I wasn’t an artist, I was a craft maker, how I needed a better education (despite having two degrees), how I’m immature and basically however I have got by in the world is a fluke. I was repeatedly told how someone else (new supply) was so much better than me…despite that person certainly was not. They are vile, vile people.
@@IamStreberthat sucks. I experience this with one of my grown children
IamStreber: it hurts me to, it's my son. He was never like this til he met the narcissist & married her. He's just like her now.
I hate how they "LOVE" to tell you that they "LOVE" you when they have no idea as to what "LOVE
is!!
He thought triangulation was a good idea, but it only made me see my worth even more. Poor, sad creature.
I laugh at triangulation because I'm usually a loner. I found peace within myself and my real friends know me.
I agree with this too. As soon as they get bored and look for some other source of Supply and then creating some form of triangulation, I actually ran and have gone no contact. This also did not work on me.
I've even known one try to use affection( way over the top) as triangulation to put me in my place when witholding from me. It was bizarre to watch and so transparent!!!
The affection was towards a friend's dog!!!!
A worm has more of a backbone
They target anyone that can provide them a service. NO ONE is special to them, it keeps you in victimhood to believe otherwise.
Refusing to let them manipulate & control you IS what makes you special to them ✌🏽
@@vodkavuitton NO, just move on. Who cares what makes the abused special to the abuser. Just GTFO at all costs.
@@vodkavuitton you were never and will be special to them. Until that gets through to you, you will always be a victim.
that whole "ignore red flags due to childhood trauma" just hit me like a ton of bricks.
And THAT’S where the key lie. That horrible experience led me to discover me. After the hate and rumination subsided I was left to ask myself a couple questions: What the hell was that? Why would you allow that? Those questions led me to the discovery that my entire family are narcissists. I have been abused my entire life. That kind of subtle insidious abuse was normal to me. And so the healing began. Keep going!!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I’ve disabled all my social media so he has absolutely no way of watching me at all. Feels so freeing!
I’m loving these outside vids with all the birdsong and background noises. Feels like walking and talking with a friend. 🌷
Me too how did it turn out
@@avaandbrice7776 Really well. Still off social media and not sure if I’ll ever log back on again. It’s helped shift my focus inwards and to other things that really matter. I hope you’re doing well!
@@avaandbrice7776 what if we have a business? I wish I didn't need social media for my business.
I only have farcebook. And all I ost is jokes.
Yea sir! For some… it takes hours, days, weeks, or a few months to recalibrate self and be able to move forward.
For others… it takes months even years to heal, rebuild, and bounce back.
It’s like stepping in dog $hit. It takes great effort to clean the shoe. The crack, the crevices, and sometimes the smell will still linger on for years like little land mine reminders acknowledging you, yeah! You stepped in it alright.
Like animals marking their territory… Cluster B’s always $hit where they eat and a whole lot more…
Stay alert! Stay alive! Stay strong! Peace ✌️
Thanks Joe ☕️
Being out in nature magnifies and intensifies us. Thank you, love your tone 🇬🇧
Hi Joe. Thank you for another wonderful video. I totally agree with picking up on the narcissist’s bad energy every now and again. There are definitely hooks on a spiritual plane latched onto you even following a brief entanglement. But praying, staying upbeat and empowered and getting out into and walking in nature is just the medicine. There is nothing more magical and uplifting than being out in nature. It’s always great to see the magic in the world. Have a great week, Joe 😘😃
He really helped me
Same!
Pride comes before a fall
I love your voice. So soothing. Additionally, everything you said in this video is spot on.
It is quite amusing to see how the person who manipulated, lied, and played you like you wasn’t worth nothing, try so desperately to get your attention, lurk 👀 and spy on you because they want to know what’s going on in your life lol.
These people truly are jokes and once people realize this they will ultimately defeat and deflate the demonic Narc once and for all. Thanks Joe. I love listening to you.
Indeed, Joe has a beautiful voice, it's so calming! Of course the content of his videos are beyond brilliant and genius! Helped me tremendously on my healing path! Love to get my daily share of Joe!!!
Blah blah blah spying on someone because you want to keep tabs on them & initiating gang stalkers to use their privacy against them is not the same thing but both are illegal & make you look cray cray ✌🏽
It’s envy and anything good about you makes them see you as patronizing arrogant and judging them so they are hugely premature in going into rejecting mode at any sign of you not being exactly what they want which Changes constantly bc they are crazy. Very good point Joe how we take on their feelings without realizing
Keyword with all narcissists : envy
@@samxsara yes 🪬🧿💜❤️girl
@@samxsarano,crazy!!
It’s been almost 8 months since I walked away from her after we were on and off. I haven’t watched any narc videos in months because I’ve really been healing but I’ve noticed random thoughts of her have surfaced recently and it’s been a little frustrating but I’ve done the work to stay strong through these ruminations. You’re right, I had a sense of “is this really me thinking this?” It’s hard to describe but I feel fine and unbothered by the thought of her but these thoughts of her will pour in. Funny enough my best friend ran into her last week which was when the thoughts started. He told me she’s still the same and in his words “there’s death behind her eyes” which I found funny.
It was a difficult road on my healing journey because she stalked me after ghosting me and telling me she didn’t want to find out that I hurt myself after we broke up. I was confused and hurt and angry for a few months and then I woke up from the dream.
I haven’t been able to get myself to be with anybody romantically yet which is where a lot of my depression and loneliness comes from but I know that this too shall pass and I will find somebody amazing someday.
I always remind myself: if you loved somebody like her imagine the love you’ll have for somebody that actually cares about you
Stay encouraged, excellent point
Stay encouraged, excellent point
No truer words have been said. I don't want anymore romantic partners. I gave myself 💯 to her and I don't want anyone else. I'm gonna start refocusing my energy into a clean slate. I'm gonna let the old self die. I see the new version ahead, and that's what I want. It's time to make changes and let God take over. He makes all things new. ❤
I didn't believe the whole energy thing but some days I will just feel really low and be thinking about the covert narcissist all day and just can't get them out of my head no matter what. It's definitely weird and it has been over a year since I was last discarded
Same here ….its actually quite annoying isn’t it ?
I’m a energy worker and when my narcissistic send me energy that’s how I feel I kno what my own energy feel like so on the days when he just pop in my head out the blue or I’m feeling like I miss him I kno that’s him sending me his energy and my awareness is interested only way you can get over the energy being send is to call all your energy back when you feel that way and ask to release that people energy out your field and go do a activity or action that you like and watch how you feel for the rest of the day if work like magic! ❤
@@Jann.x I’ve started to do just that ! Thankyou
Yes. Rebuke that in Jesus's Name. I also actually start seeing the narcissists name pop up on tv shows or something im reading, and his name isnt common, or see his doppelganger when im out... weird stuff like that. I rebuke it all and send it away.
Me neither that much and just today I felt so heavy. Like really sad, when I didn’t in weeks. Today I also woke up at 3.33AM. Had to google it, because that happened now for the third time in a row… and now this Video. So I’m almost convinced it’s spiritual.
Spot on. What went wrong with these people? Their world is upside down.
I have experienced picking up on their feelings and energy, and at times it is a completely, empty black space with no emotion whatsoever like a cold, dark hole. However, I have noticed that the worse the feelings are - more anxiety, fear, anger, etc. - usually indicates some kind of hoover is coming.
You’re outside and “touching the grass”. It’s relaxing and grounding.
O boy….its like you read my mind today. Bad nights sleep, bad dreams, feeling frustrated out of nowhere…drove this morning to the supermarket, the song came on that reminds me of him…wtf ?! My feelings of annoyance have turned in to amusement now, I’m obviously feeling his energy (this has happened to me on a few occasions over the past few months). Anyway Joe, always a pleasure to hear your voice, affirming what I know to be true. And keep recording outside if it means we get longer videos 😂😂….🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️
Same. The bad feelings, the bad nights sleep, and the nightmares suck. I can't watch TV because I don't want to get triggered by watching something that reminds me of her. It's been 2 months since discard and I'm stuck in a " time lock". The break up feels like last week, but it's been 2 months. I feel like a raw nerve. Crying spells, and depression haunt me. I thought she loved me, but I see it wasn't real. Sucks.
@@clintonnagy1662 Sorry to hear you are struggling. I came to the realization recently that the "so called" feelings of love the covert narcissist had for me just weren't real. It was all fake. Knowing this wasn't real love has helped me to move on to find someone real.
A few days ago I was driving a close friend of mine to a party. She had to go to a grocery store to buy something. When done, we drove by a large parking space nearby where a small group of people was standing and talking together. Suddenly I saw my nex standing with the group and we made eye contact. My first reaction was to burst out laughing LOUDLY and my car windows was open, she and the group heard it 😂
I saw that she was stroking her eyebrow and was sort of smiling embarrassedly 😂
I was diagnosed with Complex PTSD long before I met her. But I think it's a really good sign that I have healed very well from her abuse when my first reaction was to burst out laughing loudly in the car when I saw her.
I think my reaction sent a clear message to her that I am healed and have moved on from her and that she didn't even broke me and my spirit, and I'm stronger then ever mentally 💪
The best reaction would be no reaction
I’m very sensitive and I pick up on their sextual thoughts physically at times, especially when I’m going through low points at times as it happens in life. It always freaks me out. It feels like a violation of my energy. That’s when I know I have to ground myself through exercise, walks, eat healthier, doing something I love, hearing music etc to reach a higher frequency where they can’t reach me. These beings are low vibrational and their highest point is pride anything other than that they can’t get past that, but we can.
Imagine thinking you have the right to violate someone's privacy & truly believe that person has to accept that you will never stop & just learn how to live with it instead of simply leaving them alone 🤔 yea you're gonna fall hard & I will be over here laughing at you. Let this play out until the end ✌🏽
This is so very honest and true -- it resonates deeply. Thanks!
Joe, your ramblings are gold. As an empath I know he tries to reconnect though in another state. 23 years together. I'm in the house a decade of abuse occurred, sage and prayers to cleanse, removing his leftover belongings to a shed. Still have court dates. he's trying to control through continuances. But I am stronger, don't care about those any more, and becoming more aware to block him energeticly.He's taken on false identities to post a comment on a public UA-cam channels. That part is pathetic. He will never forget me, there is no one else that will be as amazing as me. I'm not puffed up, it's just true. The thing that bugs me is what did she do to him to disassociate and create this fantasy world. I have my plan to get out from under the financial abuse, in months I will truly be free. Thanks for all you do.
I didn't become strong because of the hell they sent me through, I just became more self aware, sensitive, and learned how to pay way more attention to what people DO not what they SAY, and if those two don't match, it's manipulation. If I can survive the horror show with a narc, I can survive anything. You will get to know your strengths and weaknesses dealing with one of them.
Thanks Joe. Your timing is spot on as always
Don´t EVER stop making videos about Narcissist, i really need them for my sanity
Pathetically amusing is the perfect descriptor!
Another great video, Joe!! Man, your videos have been so on-point. Interesting & beautiful images, as always. Narcissists are definitely lurkers. I was just hoovered a couple days ago at my job. I watched the ex slowly drive by in his work truck, possibly spying. I had a good view of outside and out of nowhere, I saw him driving by. I know his work truck and the co. I'm sure he saw my car outside and I believe he saw Me inside, too. Then, he drove off. He knows where I work.
He use to come in my job while we were seeing each other. Then, after the discard, I never saw him come to my job the whole time, until recently...a year since discard.
Very peculiar, lurking, keeping tabs, whatever. He's been blocked & no-contact. 🚫 He has no idea what I been up to or anything. The month of May was when I was discarded and it's been a whole year. I'm over him, the manipulations & games. I'm thriving and doing well. Stay away from Me.🙅🚫
Good morning ! 🌞Lets enjoy a cup of joe☕☕ with Joe and his new magical video ! Thank you, have a nice walk ! 🤗❤
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It sure seems like there is a demonic component to this whole especially covert narcissist thing. I used to pray with my so called "best friend" and "sister in Christ" almost every day for years until the devaluation started and continued to get very ugly. What has happened has been a crazy nightmare. Trying to learn what my loving Father is patiently teaching me. . .
It's been almost a year no contact. I've worked hard on my healing journey with weekly therapy, journaling, joining a support group. He caused a great deal of trauma throughout our 4yrs together & I'll be working through that for some time to come, but I feel strong. I've gained wisdom and self esteem. It's hard for me to fathom that I looked at him as if he was special. He's just a gross slime ball. A manipulator, sex addict and a predator. Thank god I eventually came out of the fog and faced reality head on.
Your voice, words and knowledge are so calming. I’ve been struggling to sleep and these videos are so calming and help me relax on an evening and make sense of my rumination. Thankyou
This all resonates and I could pick up his emotions. I would occasionally text and ask if he was thinking about me at that moment and he would be astounded, or I'd go to text him and he would text me at the same time. I've learned to discern his negative emotions and I've broken the trauma bond. 3 months ago I thought I'd never be over him and now he's been dumped by the supply he cheated on me with and has no job, he's miserable while I'm soaring high.
You are so true with the thoughts, and the flying monkeys.
you are spot on about picking up the thoughts/feelings, u r calm but out of nowhere u feel thoughts that u normally don't ever think, I have wondered about this for very long time. if you could make another video on that topic as well.
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I don't think they target a specific type of person,i think they just cast a wide net and those are the type that get caught in it.
They target people who they know will fall for their facade. For example: My ex told me she thought I had such an innocent face when we first met. She said she knew she could feel safe with me. I told her she didn't know me well enough yet. 😅
Another thing she did during the dry spells of her last marriage, she would hang out at the VFW with the older guys to gain attention. Her ex husband didn't like it but she did it to antagonize him then say he wasn't paying attention to her. Later, I noticed she played alot of mind games with her ex boyfriends and played the victim claiming she was abused after the relationship ended. It's a sick game.
I think that like the opposite poles on a magnet they are drawn together. I have heard this analogy used so many times. I do not think that this is by chance…..but then what do I know.
Thanks, Joe! I feel that amusement now, thank God I finally broke through!! But definitely I went through confusion, sadness, anger, wanting revenge…I think I feel that indifference now! Wasn’t fun at all until I’ve reached this point!
Your videos have been insanely insightful, keep it up!
I really appreciate your videos and words of wisdom 🫶
I 100% can pick-up on their thoughts and energies. It's for real.
I know the feeling of lurking. I have/had a narcissistic “friend”. It’s amazing how obvious a using narcissist can be. She called me on the date she knew something was supposed to happen. She’s otherwise stayed quiet. Perhaps, it’s because, I still seem a warm person, that may be oblivious, but she’s unsure whether I’ve sussed her out. I have. I may know exactly where her mind is, which is to keep tabs on whether or not she can move in with me. She cannot.
Everything is energy.
Positive/Negative.
Including thoughts ⚡
Narcissists target people who vibe at a highest level….
Enough said…
Well actually I can tell that just one day with that narc gave me so much anxiety afterwards I had nightmares. Just being next to them for 2-3 hours is enough to pick up on their vibes. It made me think they were my twin flame bc I felt him bombarding my senses and thought it was a sign…
It was only trauma
Can you discuss the copying of narcissists? Why narcissistic friends copy you?
I really like the images on your video.
The answer to your question of why you want to keep going when you are outside: theres no ceiling. Low ceilings promote focus. High ceilings bigger and higher thoughts. No ceiing = no bounds whatsoever.
Excellent video. Thanks Joe!
There's a different energy outside, a lot of information coming through you, more energized from nature 😄
Great video, thank you ❤
I’m glad I found this video as I’ve been becoming more thoughtful about my feelings lately. I’ve thought it was really weird that I find myself almost ‘missing’ this person on occasion that I was only in a talking phase with and even fixated on them at times. I’ve gotten a lot better at distinguishing mine from theirs and am starting learn to steer my thoughts and feelings away from it more.
Excellent video Joe 👌
Everything your saying is facts keep it up
Joe, walking helps with the thought process, makes sense. Loving this format, thx!
Joe, thanks man.! I really enjoy your “outside” talks.
Have a great Dan brother, I look forward to next time.
Thank you, Joe for these videos. I always like the way you things in perspective to help us heal and move on .
I have picked up him thinking about me occasionally.
I definitely an relate to feeling his thoughts. I started to have trouble catching my breath. Now that I am ready to fully let go, i don't find that happens.
When I felt it, I would find messages in spam and blocked calls. It was a little spooky. I felt haunted.
I wonder if you research these perspectives or if it’s from experience and your head. It’s spot on! I’m just questioning why I can’t verbalize it but in my head unconsciously I know!
We have similar wounds. My mother is an abusive narc who wants to control the family and come from a lineage of women who break men. 5 years no contact so far. Staying off social media and showing off your growth and success is 🔑.
The devouring mother complex is truly satanic.
Always enlightening!
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I swear you & I think very much alike - thanks for talking about the being sensitive to their emotions / thoughts. It sounds "twinkly" but I think that trauma bond makes an almost psychic level of connection.
But, as Sam Vaknin points out about narc "introjects" (imaginary snapshot of their supply victim) - healthy people also have this in a way. You have an imprint of their personality deep in your psyche, you KNOW Them. You have it with your close friends and family too. You can imagine how they think & feel. It may or may not be telepathic, but its about as intimate as it gets, which is why its so painful to break it & leave.
I was just laughing with my son at how abruptly you end your videos. Sometimes it seems like you’re mid-sentence when you randomly say, “Bye!!”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That’s how I end my conversations 😂
Thanks loved it!!
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You should start a podcast love, great video as always!
You are really good. Thank you
I feel like that hypersensitivity most of us experience is ADHD. We love hard and tend to respond to lovebombing with our own lovebombing
You got it 😂
pls keep going, add topics, layer more on, feel free to mak videos longer, all appreciate it
great video!
I still can cut the air with a knife. Their energy is still with me. Thank you so much for the amazing 👏 video. I am a new sub. Love ❤️ your channel.
I remember in an older video Joe said it’s like narcissists are “almost psychic.” That explained a lot!
This video also brings up information that I needed to hear, that when I think about the narcissist from time to time and trust and believe I’m no contact, I wonder why I might be thinking about them and it’s a possible I’m just picking up their energy. Also, when he spoke that they have a need to check up on you after you’ve gone no contact, so true for me as the person who I nicknamed Medusa, “shows up” at a grocery store that I’m known for shopping at, kind of a specialty place and they can go anywhere else, cuZ it ain’t that special and it’s not even near where they live and yet they show up there all the time and sometimes when I look up and staring at me. I’m not afraid of any physical threat because they are a covert, narcissist and play the fragile victim, but in my opinion because of narcissistic abuse, the real danger is in should perform and having a conversation with them. So when I see them, I just keep going and ignore them.
Yes. Or seem to know when you have gotten over them, and they return to feed by stirring up old memories.
@@billdux3271 yes! I think he said it’s succinctly and aptly. That weird extra sense they have. Desperate to store of old memories. But one of my favorite anti-narcissism saying is “don’t take debate and don’t feed the animals. “ And so I keep a big healthy distance! even though they just keep showing up, it shows exactly the point you make. The last thing I want to do is find out where they are. But they find me and I’m so grateful I know just to keep the no contact vibes going.
just a quick look at your face Joe...you have a great voice...be nice to put a face to it...xxx love your stuff xxx
It never turns out to be what you expected
I like the mystery and intrigue! 😶🌫️
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@@Bleepbloopblarpme too 😂
Because you're in your element outside
Thanks Joe love listening to your insight and great voice
If you know he's a narc, move on. It might just save your life. I went back, she's now divorced me after 33 years, stolen my kids away from me, I nearly damn near lost my house. I have been left with severe anxiety, depression and suicidal thoughts. She made up total lies about me to friends who now have nothing to do with me. She left like flicking off a light switch or changing a pair of shoes, after 33 years, 2 kids and we lost a baby as well!
I'm almost fully healed now but it's taken me 2 years!! If he's a narc and you take him back he will punish you even more. They come to steal, kill and destroy and they enjoy it! They WILL leave you mentally, physically and spiritually ill if not 6ft under.
Your outside energy is definitely different than your inside energy. 😉
Let me say this... I wouldnt be the strong person I am without going through heartache. Jesus suffered horribly to show the world real love. If my emotional wounds from last my Narcissistic relationship helps/saves someone else then I know its worth the pain and suffering. Just because we dont expect the outcome to go in our favor doesnt mean we didnt accomplish anything. It means God let us learn the lessons required to help someone else and ourselves. So, Im grateful to have met my ex even though it wasnt perfect but I know my feelings are real, and I wont deny them because she meant something to me but it didnt work out.Im sad its over but I have to work on myself and pray I can find happiness again. All wounds heal in time. The universe was designed this way for reason. God knows what he is doing because unanswered prayers are the best protection GOD can give you. I dont see it now...but I know he wont decieve me. GOD can neither decieve nor be decieved. Amen.
True punishment is indifference
yes, yes I have reached the pinnacle of their "cartoonishly predictable" low vibe behaviours, all of them.
8:28 bang on, I have very good reason to know the truth of this, backed up with tech at the time, would take far too many words to share - what I will share is something I’ve developed subsequently, as it may help someone, even yourself- so I do this & I’m trying to remember to do as a daily practice : I visualise internally my light ‘force’ & rapidly spin it, so it’s at an intense speed & power, & huge in itself m, so as an internal tornado, I then blast it out 360 degrees as a blinding forcefield of pure white brilliant but dense light, so like a fog but made purely of blinding light, so it blasts out in a huge circle around me at great distance & then I pause it & hold it there, & say internally nothing that means me harm will penetrate & then just at the very edge of the circle, so like a skin, I solidify the light into a mirror, pause again, & then send it slowly spinning. Try it, on the incidences you’re talking about, it stops it.
Wonder what happens if you don't offer the privilege of an online presence at all? No shared friends or friend groups, what if you were strangers before your relationship? You're not reaching out and it's complete silence from your end? They'll get the message and stay away right? I'd love to know because much of the recovery information out there assumes everyone's life is readily accessible online. Thanks
Well for me, I do have an online presence but I blocked them on every single social media account & application. Blocked their family, friends to lock that door completely….
But these people are sneaky they find an open door somehow… I blocked my narc and went no contact dec 31 2023.
But just last week Saturday I was hoovered and tricked
They added me on Snapchat under a fake name and probably knew cause I don’t use Snapchat as much I don’t really care who adds me or not. And proceeds to ask me how I was and I responded until she said something like “I know you never want to talk to me but please lets talk”
And I was like woahhhh, is this this birddd??? How the heck do you stoop so low to hoover me under fake alias… I blocked them again….
And the thing is when I went no contact, I had a belief that this narc is too egoistic and prideful to come hoovering after I basically shut the door in their face… but apparently most narcs are the same they never learn or want to give up
So tbhh, your narc can still find one small crack to come through, you could even get flowers randomly to your home
Joe, how did you learn so much about narcissism?
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He ended things because he was grooming a young girl and I was asking too many questions.
I watched a video related to politics in my town which I'm interested in..I saw my Nex in action, using his supposed Feminism to lure yet another woman in and talking to his actual main supply, a woman he knows for a long time. She knows I accused him of being an abuser but sticks with him. Seeing him talking to those two women made me realise how much I misinterpreted his facial expressions while traumabonded to him. It's so scary, because he looks so mean....
I have not been able to move on..
you are fantasticly sensitive and evolved. are u a heyoka?
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I spoke to him last night he called me after Valentine's discard...today i feel sad i miss his so much i have tried my best im not perfect...i missed him😢😢😢😢
The world has become more magical than I could ever imagine it’s wierd in hindsight this is what she always feared but how did they know it would become like this she always said your gonna leave me and that don’t get too cocky and leave she even told family not to compliment me because I was gonna get big headed and leave her I used to love her so much but she was such a burden I had to let her go I couldn’t take it and now my life is literally like a movie it’s unreal I look better I have wayyyyyyy more charisma I have the best luck now I travel so much make more money I even learned I have adhd and am treating it like everything is so peal right now she seemed to have known this all along this what would happen
I'm still struggling he used to call every day and now he ghost me but called me yesterday and said he will come see me not this weekend but the following week....now.leave me in a.state of confusion 😢😢😢😢
no contact
Zero contact, move on. You deserve to be someone's number 1 girl not part of his hareem. Get yourself respect back and move on. If you want to get your own back be the best possible version of you that you could ever be. They hate that.
7 months n im still reeling n disregulated with a delusion n reality
I've moved on it's just sometimes I'll be wanting to do stuff but I feel like his energy is going to come around and interrupt what I'm doing.
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Are you speaking faster or speeding up edit? The slow cadence of your regular speech is much preferred.
He's walking outside. Listen when he says I'm outside.
These people are narly
Nope. I don't care. I keep a low profile. No contact and no flying monkeys.
You should at least every now and then do a video when you let your thoughts flow uninterrupted. If it ends up being a 20 minute video then so be it. Thise who want to listen will stay the entire time
I know you r dead on ive always felt people even from the other side of the planet but also the other side of this life
Joe, you have a gift, your format is beautiful and so are you. Thanks again my friend. 🤗 Oh, and my magic came back, you reminded me of this. Can't remember when it came back but it did. 🤍
Thx joe great video bro 🙏🏾👏🏽👍🏾