30:40 yeah, the f***up thing is for me, is when people who watch BL, but when it's actually gay people/ marriage equality, they said uughh gross... I was like WTF 🤨🤨
i actually couldn't watch this episode by myself so i ran to watch the episode with you, i was actually so scared the entire episode, thank you for watching the episode with me
Teerak and Babes mom is better than me cause the way I would have divorced my husband if he can’t accept my child I don’t care how petty it might seem after the scene he caused he would have had till the next morning to apologize for how he acted, to what he said to Fah and Terrak, and for yanking on Teerak like he was a mf rag doll when he tried to walk to his room or else I would have raised hell it would have been a straight up war zone I. That house if I was the mom. It’s so sad that it’s actually people who are okay with things until it’s someone they know personally and that is close to them then they have a problem with it and wanna be a a**hole. And if I was Teerak I would accept my fathers apology but I wouldn’t fix our bond or be close to him after that he was way to out of pocket with how he acted and the things he said I would have distanced myself even after he “accepted” the relationship. Because at the end of the day he reject his son repeatedly over and over again without hesitation even when he saw him sad and hurt he still didn’t care the only reason why he “accepted” it is cause no one in the house ex Babe was talking to him but I bhett if no one said anything or spoke up and just let him do and say what he wanted to and didn’t fight for Teerak he would have still been acting like a a**hole and homophobic af so idc that he apologized and said he only did it cause he care and he was scared that is not a good excuse enough to make your son feel unhappy and unloved it’s his life not yours grow tf up
i dislike this storylines, with a parent being homophobic and it being bc they were worried, in general, but i think my biggest problem is more the way queer kids are shown at the end of them. even here rak thanking his dad for understanding him felt insane to watch, bc honestly the dad should thank rak for still wanting a relationship with him despite the, also aggressive and almost violent, way he acted and what he said to him. i feel like they send this message that this situations are something queer kids get over easily bc they love their parents, but for me honestly bc of their love, it leaves a bigger trauma bc it's harder to see a person they love in the same way after this types of things
This might be a cultural difference, because the ending to me was okay. Both parents are now accpeting of who Rak is, the dad being able to come around is something that a lot of asian parents aren't able to do, not only with sexuality, but these like job, education, and even straight partner choices. For a lot of Asian culture there is huge respect towards older generation pushed in our minds that the simple, I can accpet u is the most important to have.
@ and i completely get that, i know while watching bls that there sides of a lot of things, especially the relationship with the elders and parents, that i simply didn’t live while growing up. and it’s not that i wanted them to not make up, but it’s more that i wish they focused also on the pov of the queer kid after their parents comes around and accepts them, simply bc seeing them act like, their parents reacting in an hurtful way, was easy to move past feels unrealistic. like i understand forgiving, it’s the relationship going on like that didn’t even happen that feels weird, but maybe that’s simply another way of respecting the parent’s change
This one bored me and then annoyed me with Rak's father and mother. I'm all for having homophobia and homophobic characters in BL - for social commentary and/or as obstacle for the main couple. However, regardless of why such characters are included, the show needs to send a clear message that homophobia is evil, like racism or antisemitism, that it's inexcusable and undefendable, regardless of where it comes from (ignorance - which was not the case here; stupidity or plain malice). That's what's missing here; instead the show tries to present Rak's father as acting in good faith (he's not, he's being selfish), out of fear his child won't create "the perfect family" it wants (wrong again: it's a "perfect family" that Rak's father wants, not his son - which isn't addressed by the show) and that it it somehow justfied. What made me really angry was Rak's mother telling her husband "I know you’re disappointed. So am I". Two short sentences and everything is wrong with them. I know someone might say it's "a cultural thing", that in Asia parent-child relations are different than in the West. I don't care. Doing bad things and hurting other people is wrong regardless of where it happens. This show was made in 2024, not in 2014 or 2017. It should call out homophobia for what it is instead of trying to defend or explain it - that's sending the obviously wrong message.
I feel like it clearly showed how homophobia is wrong and should be corrected by explaining calmly to the homophobic people so that they understand and not just scream that they're wrong cuz then the homophobic person would never understand and would try to defend themselves.. Rak's father clearly says that he didn't care for how Teerak felt and apologized... Nobody's trying to defend homophobia in the series.. they clearly point out that its wrong and even tho its ok to be disappointed, people should accept their children as they are! I hope this helped you understand the message that the series is trying to show 😊😊
I feel like some got so used to Rak's family being nice, they expected them to act ideally all the time. It didn't feel OOC to me, the way the family reacted, and it even felt somewhat familiar. I was actually surprised by the nuances they put from the build up to the outburst and throughout the whole ordeal, the way each family member acted. Just one example but the way Rak changed seats with Babe on that one meal bc he didn't want to be in front of his father, no words spoken, and this coming from the previous episode where pretty much the last scene was a family meal. For a one-ep conflict, I honestly think it was done pretty well.
@@FireboyPhuwin Same! The way the mom and Babe blocked his dad made me cry so hard cuz I had seen the exact situation happen to my family before except it was my dad blocking my relative not getting blocked.. it only happened twice but this episode really hit hard 😪
It's based on novel, and the novel is 10 years old already it's from 2013/2014 so yeah this kind a problems is there. also the director changes the back story of rak's father to make this story stay light and conflict not burden the story. he change the story based on how some queer people theres in thai face, they faced exactly like this.. yeah maybe cultural differences
Like you said, this has a lot to do with culture, and pushing one culture expecation on to another is wrong. Like other have said, the director has made changes based on real Thai experiences. As an Asian person it isn't only sexuality that we look for exceptance from our family, also what job we want to go towards, what type of school we want to go to. Most asian culture are very collective, which this show clearly demonstrate. In many real world stories, rak's ending is only a dream. This episdoe demonstrated a clear example of what most queer people wish can happen to themselves if they are face with unaccepting parents. I said this in my reaction, but being disappointed is not a wrong emotion, it is how you handle that disappointment is. The dad was wrong for focusing Rak to break up with Fah, but his and the mother's disappointment is valid. We all have expectation on everything in life. I expect to get the job I want, I expect to get in to my dream college, but when that doesn't happen that's when u feel disappointed. In heterocentric world, there is an expecation that our child gets married to the opposite sex (espcially those who are from an older generation). That is something we need to remember that bc we grew up in an excepting world and exposed to LGBTQ+ that they were too. I want to end with, being able to accpt cultural differences and being able to critially think is important when u aren't from that culture yourself.
30:40 yeah, the f***up thing is for me, is when people who watch BL, but when it's actually gay people/ marriage equality, they said uughh gross...
I was like WTF 🤨🤨
i actually couldn't watch this episode by myself so i ran to watch the episode with you, i was actually so scared the entire episode, thank you for watching the episode with me
Teerak and Babes mom is better than me cause the way I would have divorced my husband if he can’t accept my child I don’t care how petty it might seem after the scene he caused he would have had till the next morning to apologize for how he acted, to what he said to Fah and Terrak, and for yanking on Teerak like he was a mf rag doll when he tried to walk to his room or else I would have raised hell it would have been a straight up war zone I. That house if I was the mom. It’s so sad that it’s actually people who are okay with things until it’s someone they know personally and that is close to them then they have a problem with it and wanna be a a**hole. And if I was Teerak I would accept my fathers apology but I wouldn’t fix our bond or be close to him after that he was way to out of pocket with how he acted and the things he said I would have distanced myself even after he “accepted” the relationship. Because at the end of the day he reject his son repeatedly over and over again without hesitation even when he saw him sad and hurt he still didn’t care the only reason why he “accepted” it is cause no one in the house ex Babe was talking to him but I bhett if no one said anything or spoke up and just let him do and say what he wanted to and didn’t fight for Teerak he would have still been acting like a a**hole and homophobic af so idc that he apologized and said he only did it cause he care and he was scared that is not a good excuse enough to make your son feel unhappy and unloved it’s his life not yours grow tf up
I cried a river this episode, hurts my heart seeing my babies cried 😢
i dislike this storylines, with a parent being homophobic and it being bc they were worried, in general, but i think my biggest problem is more the way queer kids are shown at the end of them. even here rak thanking his dad for understanding him felt insane to watch, bc honestly the dad should thank rak for still wanting a relationship with him despite the, also aggressive and almost violent, way he acted and what he said to him. i feel like they send this message that this situations are something queer kids get over easily bc they love their parents, but for me honestly bc of their love, it leaves a bigger trauma bc it's harder to see a person they love in the same way after this types of things
This might be a cultural difference, because the ending to me was okay. Both parents are now accpeting of who Rak is, the dad being able to come around is something that a lot of asian parents aren't able to do, not only with sexuality, but these like job, education, and even straight partner choices. For a lot of Asian culture there is huge respect towards older generation pushed in our minds that the simple, I can accpet u is the most important to have.
@ and i completely get that, i know while watching bls that there sides of a lot of things, especially the relationship with the elders and parents, that i simply didn’t live while growing up. and it’s not that i wanted them to not make up, but it’s more that i wish they focused also on the pov of the queer kid after their parents comes around and accepts them, simply bc seeing them act like, their parents reacting in an hurtful way, was easy to move past feels unrealistic. like i understand forgiving, it’s the relationship going on like that didn’t even happen that feels weird, but maybe that’s simply another way of respecting the parent’s change
I was crying when I watch this episode😢
This one bored me and then annoyed me with Rak's father and mother. I'm all for having homophobia and homophobic characters in BL - for social commentary and/or as obstacle for the main couple. However, regardless of why such characters are included, the show needs to send a clear message that homophobia is evil, like racism or antisemitism, that it's inexcusable and undefendable, regardless of where it comes from (ignorance - which was not the case here; stupidity or plain malice). That's what's missing here; instead the show tries to present Rak's father as acting in good faith (he's not, he's being selfish), out of fear his child won't create "the perfect family" it wants (wrong again: it's a "perfect family" that Rak's father wants, not his son - which isn't addressed by the show) and that it it somehow justfied. What made me really angry was Rak's mother telling her husband "I know you’re disappointed. So am I". Two short sentences and everything is wrong with them. I know someone might say it's "a cultural thing", that in Asia parent-child relations are different than in the West. I don't care. Doing bad things and hurting other people is wrong regardless of where it happens. This show was made in 2024, not in 2014 or 2017. It should call out homophobia for what it is instead of trying to defend or explain it - that's sending the obviously wrong message.
I feel like it clearly showed how homophobia is wrong and should be corrected by explaining calmly to the homophobic people so that they understand and not just scream that they're wrong cuz then the homophobic person would never understand and would try to defend themselves.. Rak's father clearly says that he didn't care for how Teerak felt and apologized... Nobody's trying to defend homophobia in the series.. they clearly point out that its wrong and even tho its ok to be disappointed, people should accept their children as they are!
I hope this helped you understand the message that the series is trying to show 😊😊
I feel like some got so used to Rak's family being nice, they expected them to act ideally all the time. It didn't feel OOC to me, the way the family reacted, and it even felt somewhat familiar. I was actually surprised by the nuances they put from the build up to the outburst and throughout the whole ordeal, the way each family member acted. Just one example but the way Rak changed seats with Babe on that one meal bc he didn't want to be in front of his father, no words spoken, and this coming from the previous episode where pretty much the last scene was a family meal.
For a one-ep conflict, I honestly think it was done pretty well.
@@FireboyPhuwin Same! The way the mom and Babe blocked his dad made me cry so hard cuz I had seen the exact situation happen to my family before except it was my dad blocking my relative not getting blocked.. it only happened twice but this episode really hit hard 😪
It's based on novel, and the novel is 10 years old already it's from 2013/2014 so yeah this kind a problems is there. also the director changes the back story of rak's father to make this story stay light and conflict not burden the story. he change the story based on how some queer people theres in thai face, they faced exactly like this.. yeah maybe cultural differences
Like you said, this has a lot to do with culture, and pushing one culture expecation on to another is wrong. Like other have said, the director has made changes based on real Thai experiences. As an Asian person it isn't only sexuality that we look for exceptance from our family, also what job we want to go towards, what type of school we want to go to. Most asian culture are very collective, which this show clearly demonstrate. In many real world stories, rak's ending is only a dream. This episdoe demonstrated a clear example of what most queer people wish can happen to themselves if they are face with unaccepting parents. I said this in my reaction, but being disappointed is not a wrong emotion, it is how you handle that disappointment is. The dad was wrong for focusing Rak to break up with Fah, but his and the mother's disappointment is valid. We all have expectation on everything in life. I expect to get the job I want, I expect to get in to my dream college, but when that doesn't happen that's when u feel disappointed. In heterocentric world, there is an expecation that our child gets married to the opposite sex (espcially those who are from an older generation). That is something we need to remember that bc we grew up in an excepting world and exposed to LGBTQ+ that they were too. I want to end with, being able to accpt cultural differences and being able to critially think is important when u aren't from that culture yourself.