It's a shame that you never saw Marylebone, St Pancras and the now-lost Broad Street termini in the British Rail era of the 1980s, when they must have been among the world's least-used... During the off-peak, Marylebone saw just five trains every two hours - four of which were to Aylesbury and none went north of Banbury, plus a couple of peak-time extras. Serious consideration was given to converting it into a coach station and diverting the remaining trains into Paddington or Baker Street. St Pancras was built on just one level under the same vast train shed, hosting only about 20 trains a day in total - serving Nottingham, Leicester and Derby; and Broad Street - which was mostly derelict, was a terminus for the North London Line to Richmond, plus two or three peak-hour commuter services to Watford. And that was it!
Another wonderful video and totally enjoyed this series. I used to use Moorgate way back in the early 90s for the mainline service from Highbury Islington to get to work, which was quite weird as you pointed out - it looked like a tube station, but the trains weren't tube stock, nor the branding. Back then, they still had signs up at Moorgate for "Great Northern Electric" rail services, which sounded so quaint, as if they were promoting electricity. One slight expansion. Whilst Fenchurch Street Station was indeed one of the first elevated railway stations in the world, it was still quite far behind the oldest group. That was in Manchester, where the first ever proper intercity railway was built in 1830 from Liverpool. Manchester's station (the confusingly named "Liverpool Street" station) was elevated from the start, so 11 years earlier. This makes it not only the first ever elevated railway station, but because it was elevated, all following railway stations in Manchester's city centre were also elevated, creating the first elevated city system in the world. It was also done by mistake. The original Manchester terminus was to be closer to the city centre. As the railway was being rushed, so it could open on time, they found out they didn't actually own one building that was in the way. They thought this was purchased, but it seems not. They realised they needed to make a decision, so decided to temporarily build the station right next to the river until they sorted the problem out. As it was next to the river, it was elevated as the line had to cross the river. This railway line proved so successful, that new lines began to get built before they could sort out that property issue, so when new lines entered the city centre, they came in at the same level as Liverpool St Station. These days, all of the railways in the city centre are elevated, as are all the stations. Whilst this was initially a mistake (creating the first elevated railway system in the world), it also proved to be a huge advantage. The original plan was to slowly drop the original line to street level after the river, then continue at street level until it reached the planned station - but no one expected the huge popularity of rail and this would have caused disruption. So everything being elevated allowed normal traffic to continue unhindered in central Manchester. You can still visit the original station today. It's part of Manchester's science museum, which is free (although it is currently closed as it's being restored, I think it will open again next year). But you can also travel most of the original line to Liverpool, which is amazing really! Travelling on the first ever proper passenger railway nearly 200 years after it opened. It was the first true railway as it had stations, double track, timetables and signalling - pretty much all of which became standard and still used today (if in modern forms)
Great video and great series, thanks. Back in the 80s I used to work in the building that stood where The Shard is now so I would often travel through London Bridge station. It was quite cramped then. It's quite astonishing how much bigger it is now.
An interesting visitor trip i took was from Moorgate station to Alexandra Palace station, 20 min ride, short walk up the hill, Alexandra Palace is now an events venue, from antiques to darts and a theatre, set on a hill with views towards central London, in 1936 the BBC started their tv service from this hill top Palace location, there is a small display about this.
Thanks for the share. Lots of interesting railway / tube history around Alexandra Palace. Used to visit friends there years ago and investigate the abandoned rail right of ways etc.. just wish I had have thought to film all of it.. could have come in handy for my youtube channel these days :)
What have you got against Fenchurch Street? You constantly refer to it as 'Fenchurch'! And Charing Cross and Cannon Street are not the only two termini used by South Eastern. South Eastern also uses half of Victoria (rather more significant than Cannon Street!), and some of its trains also terminate at Blackfriars.
Thanks for the feedback. Actually you are right.. and I didn't notice until just watching it back now that I ended up saying Fenchurch a few time.. my mistake..
Nicely shot pictures, Moorgate is interesting because the mainline platforms as seen are just like a small deep level tube station but served by class 717 national rail trains with normal internal seat layout.
@@BackTracks.SideTracked the current moorgate terminus was a tube station until 1976. The Moorgate tube disaster was on one of these platforms. There were other suburban platforms next to the circle line platforms. Part of the Widened Lines which ran via Farringdon and Kings Cross and St Pancras to join the ecml and mml respectively. They were served by both DMUs. And loco hauled suburban coaches The King's Cross route closed in 1977 with services transferred to the current lines you saw. The St Pancras services moved to thameslink and when Farringdon platforms were extended the moorgate lines were disconnected
Ok now I'm curious on theories explaining reasons for each terminal that are featured in London's Monopoly 😅 Bro, same bro, exactly the same. I cannot find the main entrance of Fenchurch Street AND asked by the security guard not to record the arrival of my train 😅 that was 2 weeks ago
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Absolutely phenomenal and fast-paced series. As good as any of the famous British railway UA-camrs in my opinion.
Thanks. Appreciate it. ha don't think quite there yet...
It's a shame that you never saw Marylebone, St Pancras and the now-lost Broad Street termini in the British Rail era of the 1980s, when they must have been among the world's least-used... During the off-peak, Marylebone saw just five trains every two hours - four of which were to Aylesbury and none went north of Banbury, plus a couple of peak-time extras. Serious consideration was given to converting it into a coach station and diverting the remaining trains into Paddington or Baker Street. St Pancras was built on just one level under the same vast train shed, hosting only about 20 trains a day in total - serving Nottingham, Leicester and Derby; and Broad Street - which was mostly derelict, was a terminus for the North London Line to Richmond, plus two or three peak-hour commuter services to Watford. And that was it!
I have seen all three of your videos on this topic, nice presentation , I have enjoyed them.
Glad you liked them!
Another wonderful video and totally enjoyed this series. I used to use Moorgate way back in the early 90s for the mainline service from Highbury Islington to get to work, which was quite weird as you pointed out - it looked like a tube station, but the trains weren't tube stock, nor the branding. Back then, they still had signs up at Moorgate for "Great Northern Electric" rail services, which sounded so quaint, as if they were promoting electricity.
One slight expansion. Whilst Fenchurch Street Station was indeed one of the first elevated railway stations in the world, it was still quite far behind the oldest group. That was in Manchester, where the first ever proper intercity railway was built in 1830 from Liverpool. Manchester's station (the confusingly named "Liverpool Street" station) was elevated from the start, so 11 years earlier. This makes it not only the first ever elevated railway station, but because it was elevated, all following railway stations in Manchester's city centre were also elevated, creating the first elevated city system in the world.
It was also done by mistake. The original Manchester terminus was to be closer to the city centre. As the railway was being rushed, so it could open on time, they found out they didn't actually own one building that was in the way. They thought this was purchased, but it seems not. They realised they needed to make a decision, so decided to temporarily build the station right next to the river until they sorted the problem out. As it was next to the river, it was elevated as the line had to cross the river.
This railway line proved so successful, that new lines began to get built before they could sort out that property issue, so when new lines entered the city centre, they came in at the same level as Liverpool St Station. These days, all of the railways in the city centre are elevated, as are all the stations.
Whilst this was initially a mistake (creating the first elevated railway system in the world), it also proved to be a huge advantage. The original plan was to slowly drop the original line to street level after the river, then continue at street level until it reached the planned station - but no one expected the huge popularity of rail and this would have caused disruption. So everything being elevated allowed normal traffic to continue unhindered in central Manchester.
You can still visit the original station today. It's part of Manchester's science museum, which is free (although it is currently closed as it's being restored, I think it will open again next year). But you can also travel most of the original line to Liverpool, which is amazing really! Travelling on the first ever proper passenger railway nearly 200 years after it opened. It was the first true railway as it had stations, double track, timetables and signalling - pretty much all of which became standard and still used today (if in modern forms)
Thanks so much for the share. Really interesting. I had to laugh. At the fact They hadn’t realised they not purchased one of the properties.
Great video and great series, thanks. Back in the 80s I used to work in the building that stood where The Shard is now so I would often travel through London Bridge station. It was quite cramped then. It's quite astonishing how much bigger it is now.
Feels a bit like an airport these days..
An interesting visitor trip i took was from Moorgate station to Alexandra Palace station, 20 min ride, short walk up the hill, Alexandra Palace is now an events venue, from antiques to darts and a theatre, set on a hill with views towards central London, in 1936 the BBC started their tv service from this hill top Palace location, there is a small display about this.
Thanks for the share. Lots of interesting railway / tube history around Alexandra Palace. Used to visit friends there years ago and investigate the abandoned rail right of ways etc.. just wish I had have thought to film all of it.. could have come in handy for my youtube channel these days :)
Yes C2C is capital to coast!
What have you got against Fenchurch Street? You constantly refer to it as 'Fenchurch'!
And Charing Cross and Cannon Street are not the only two termini used by South Eastern. South Eastern also uses half of Victoria (rather more significant than Cannon Street!), and some of its trains also terminate at Blackfriars.
Thanks for the feedback. Actually you are right.. and I didn't notice until just watching it back now that I ended up saying Fenchurch a few time.. my mistake..
Nicely shot pictures, Moorgate is interesting because the mainline platforms as seen are just like a small deep level tube station but served by class 717 national rail trains with normal internal seat layout.
yes Moorgate was probably the one I found the most interesting.
@@BackTracks.SideTracked the current moorgate terminus was a tube station until 1976. The Moorgate tube disaster was on one of these platforms. There were other suburban platforms next to the circle line platforms. Part of the Widened Lines which ran via Farringdon and Kings Cross and St Pancras to join the ecml and mml respectively. They were served by both DMUs. And loco hauled suburban coaches The King's Cross route closed in 1977 with services transferred to the current lines you saw. The St Pancras services moved to thameslink and when Farringdon platforms were extended the moorgate lines were disconnected
Ok now I'm curious on theories explaining reasons for each terminal that are featured in London's Monopoly 😅
Bro, same bro, exactly the same. I cannot find the main entrance of Fenchurch Street AND asked by the security guard not to record the arrival of my train 😅 that was 2 weeks ago
Thanks for sharing and glad it wasn’t just me being chased out of the station. :)
C2c doesn't stand for anything its just an advertising thing.
Interesting! Maybe it should stand for Capital To The Coast :) or Channel or "The C"
I thought it was City to Coast? Or possibly (punningly) City to Sea?
@@davidw1518 nope just advertising stuff.
Yes it does 🤦♂️