What's up, fight fans!?!? Thanks for watching! I just wanted to touch on Stipe Miocic not being on the list as I see a few of you mentioned him. The reason he was not included is because he is still creating his legacy, where as everybody else on this list has been firmly etched in stone, even the active fighters that appeared. If Stipe didn't still have some potentially major chapters left in his career, her certainly could have warranted inclusion!
@@v1ncent702 Yeah, I thought he'd be at least an honorable mention, though since he hasn't totally distanced himself from the sport, he may still have some room.
@@alexisreed1040where did you see that he’s retiring? Honest question because I haven’t seen that. I remember him saying he isn’t done and will come back for sure. He also looks very good. I don’t think he should retire… a lot of money on the table still
Stipe the most under appreciated champ and fighter in ufc history. Feel so bad for the poor guy, he is not even getting mentioned in heavyweight contender category
You ain't kidding. Last night Bret Okamoto said Stipe needs atleast one win before he deserves another shot at the gold. Wtf. I want Jon Jones vs Francis as much as the next guy but Stipe deserves the shot next. Alot more then Gane did.
I feel like Stipe deserves to be on this list. Most Heavyweight title Defenses in UFC history. Beat DC (who also could be on this list) twice, Francis, Hunt, Werdum, JDS, Overeem among others. Never popped. Was exciting. Hes an absolute gent continues as a firefighter when he doesnt need to. Imo his legacy in undisputed and he should be on this list and very near the top
The list is a joke. Omitting Stipe while including fighters with criminal records (Frank Shamrock) and straight up personal ties with dictators who are responsible for crimes against humanity (Khabib and Fedor)? MMA On Point sure has run out of list ideas.
Why GSP is the G.O.A.T to me: He outclassed elite wrestlers on the ground and elite strikers striking. And nearly all of his competition was in their primes as far as age.
GSP is the most overrated fighter ever fought in the weakest welterweight era at the time. In his prime he got knocked out by tomato can 🥫Matt Serra and tapped out like chicken mcgregor.
Lmfao that's not true. He would strike vs wrestlers and wrestle against strikers lol. He was a great champion but he was such a safe fighter that if you really watched him during his reign, you can go out and piss and miss nothing when you come back
Stipe always overlooked the man was always an underdog in his fights even as a champion has the most heavyweight title defenses and regained his title after losing to DC
@@wikz8480 Because the UFC never wanted him as their Heavyweight champion, let alone be the greatest in company history. They deliberately underpromoted him in the hopes he'd be dethroned by a popular fighter who was also a company man like Daniel Cormier. Unfortunately for Stipe and his devoted fanbase, DC pulled off the upset and just like that the UFC was already down to promote the next fight between DC and Brock Lesnar for the belt conveniently forgetting Stipe even existed. Ultimately the Lesnar fight fell through, DC snuck in a defence against Derrick Lewis and the UFC had no choice but to book the rematch between DC and Stipe, which Stipe won of course after a hard-fought battle. But the story didn't end there, DC wanted an immediate rematch himself so they booked the trilogy which Stipe also won after another hard-fought battle. The UFC is vindictive and petty towards fighters who don't tow the promotional line. Stipe is one of those, and the promotion will cheat them out of an appropriate salary and superstardom leading to them being underappreciated by the casual fanbase. A similar thing is happening with Francis Ngannou, which is funny because he was the monster Dana White and the UFC helped create.
Great to see Frank getting the respect and recognition he deserves. Not to mention he was one of the first true mixed martial artists. It was amazing to watch him pass the torch to the next gen after the Diaz defeat and then shift his focus towards becoming the greatest father possible for his daughter.
In addition, Frank knew when to retire from the sport, ensuring his legacy was intact and unblemished despite having losses. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for his older brother Ken.
Frank also overcame some legit personal hardships and demons. He was a troubled kid and paid the price. Apparently he did some time in prison in his youth. Clear,y he paid his debt and went on to a great redemption arc. One my my all time faves.
Exactly & they only permanently banned him after he quit fighting not when he was still active they have no use for him on top of the lawsuits & disagreements
@@EmirAssassin I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that that was only later in his career, but I get you. My thing is if he's out of the talk for that, I never want to hear about Jones again. I hate that he gets a pass and he's still in the goat talk even though he's been caught cheating numerous times
Stipe is such an unsung hero. He is so underappreciated as a fighter and human being is scary. World needs people like Stipe. Shame to not even mention him just shame.
As someone who was born and raised in NE Ohio I love Stipe. Couldn't be more proud of him he is what all pro athletes should strive to be. Amazing person and fighter.
I think Rich Franklin deserved at least a mention here for giving mma a legitimate claim away from the "brutal violent human cockfighting" image it had.
there's a thing called cultural appropriation. Talking shit about your momma for 3 months and after the fight shake hands while saying it was just business and I respect you. That may be believable in media-driven american culture but I can assure you brother the rest of the world don't appreciate these kinda fake shits.
@@christopherfrank3015 khabib is among the goats for me aswell. Zero losses against the toughest competitors in the toughest division. And GSP lost to matt sera which isn't a good look no matter which way you cut it lol. Still though GSP will forever be the actual GOAT for me
I remember watching Fedor lose to Werdum and I was in shock and couldn't believe it for the life of me. And what he said after was amazing about if you don't fall then you cant stand back up.
@@matthewgalbreath5520 no. In hindsight, sure, but he's handled jiujitsu and triangles before. Werdum was NOT letting Fedor f around and Fedor did f around too much in it.
He dropped him! Werdum hit the deck after the first exchange. I just figured he was going to put the ol’ Fedor ground & pound clinic on that ass. He beat the brakes off of Minotauro Nogueira, who was STILL considered the best heavyweight submission artist in the game at the time, from his guard! Same thing with Ricardo Arona “The Prince of Jiu-Jitsu”. Fedor stifled BJJ like it was nothing. I just thought it was business as usual, if not the beginning of the end for Werdum. He had done it a thousand times before, and wrecked everybody. Even Werdum was surprised when he wasn’t able to escape that triangle.
@@aplus1080 It’s literally the first time he didn’t simply escape, pass guard, or just stack the dude, and proceed to beat the BJJ fighter into oblivion! 😂 NOBODY saw that shit coming.
Randy Couture "The only fighter to win a title back after losing it"? What about Tim Sylvia, Cain Velasquez, and Stipe Miocic? All three are two time heavyweight champs.
Koscheck was D1; GSP did go tit for tat with Hendricks, who's one of the best college wrestlers ever and was on rocket fuel, so that's pretty impressive
I’m disappointed, Chael is undefeated, undisputed and obviously needs a spot on this list and all the lists y’all make. Including lists exclusively for women.
From all accounts, chuck was an absolute mad man outside of the cage, yet was able to keep his nose out of serious trouble. Proving you can have the cake and eat it too, for a time
Anderson Silva is definitely the Jordan of MMA not Fedor. I understain Fedor's reign was longer, but watching Silva perform was like watching a masterclass. That front-kick knockout to the face is equivalent to Jordan doing a dunk from the foul line. He looked like Bruce Lee in there for years!!!
It's a "you had to be there" type of thing. If you were actively following MMA back in 2000-2010 you'd understand. And by "following" I don't mean watching an occasional early UFC card while wearing an affliction T-shirt.
Apparently fuck silvas long reign and ability to look unstoppable at middle weight, khabib has 3 title defenses and beat Conor, Dustin and Justin.... This list is a joke.
Both Stipe and Daniel Cormier deserve to be on this list 1000%. Both have clearly established legacies. MMA on point you're an awesome channel but that's rather glaring.
So glad Fedor gets a proper mention here. The man was and is all class. Always let the fight do the talking even lost with grace and I'm sad he's lost in the current landscape as he defined an era for ages. All that and being an undersized heavyweight who trained in his home gym and refused to so weights past 35. Absolute machine
I came across MMA from a rampage fight and then heard bas rutens commentary and then watched Fedor fight and he was so so fast and just unbelievably powerful. Grappled whenever he wanted or didn't want to. Nastiest ground and pound I've ever seen Vs noguiera. Just unbelievable fighter. Still can't bring myself to watch any of the losses again.
@@Dizzylittlelord Nogueira was the greatest submission artist in the heavyweight division as well, and instead of waiting for a stand up, Fedor just dove into his guard and beat the shit out of him. Legendary.
@@neilshah5084 rousey??? She was definitely groundbreaking at the time but come on. She threw a huge hissy fit and dissed the sport that made her famous in the first place. If she took her loss with grace I could see her on this list. But nah, not with that attitude
@@neilshah5084 Royce and Anderson have popped for PEDs, that’s definitely a tarnish on their legacy, but their contribution to the sport was top of the line.
She's still building her legacy. Give it a year or two and it'll be concrete. First woman (perhaps fighter) to fill her belt with rubies and most consecutive title defences of any WMMA fighter would be a major accomplishment. Of course in MMA nothing is set in stone.
@@alugificator I can't help but ponder that Valentina was cheated out of having a perfect legacy by way of circumstances. A split decision loss to Amanda Nunes which could have easily gone her way, never got to fight Ronda Rousey, didn't get to beat a reigning champion at 125 instead fighting for a vacant title leading many to believe that the division was created specifically for her. Opponents who are too scared to push the pace against her leading to some lackluster fights, will probably never get a third fight against Amanda Nunes and never got the chance to end Zhang Weili's win streak.
@@madgavin7568 I mean, it would have to be Weili moving up to fight to fight Valentina, and I'm sure it would have happened if Weili had remained the strawweight champion. But it's not like Val's legacy will suffer because of Weili lol
Randy is not the only one to win a title after he losing it. Cain, Stipe, Sylvia, Figuirendo, TJ, GSP, Hughes and Rose did it too. Randy is the first but not the only one.
@@isaiahroque8055 I just don't see it happening. Aldo could very well come up short against Sandhagen or Dillashaw. His chances against Sterling are good though.
@@OK-vb8kg That's actually why they say Aldo would do well. He's the hardest person to keep on the ground in FW and BW or probably hardest person to control p4p.
Unfortunately his dominance as champion was exactly the reason why the UFC was looking to axe the weight-class altogether once he left. DJ was really the only man in the division anyone knew, and Henry Cejudo hadn't quite yet established himself as one of the best. Many thought Henry was gifted the win over DJ in their rematch after all.
Am I just confused? They said Randy is the only person to win a title back. But haven't multiple fighters done that? DC did it just a few years ago with Stipe right?
Overlooked fighters on this list: Dominic Cruz DC Stipe Cain Fghters that will most likely end up on this list: Charles Oliveira Kamaru Usman Francis Ngannou Henry Cejudo
I think GSP is the only one that you objectively can't argue about. I think he is a close to perfect as you can get in the sport. Sure khabib is undefeated, sure DJ has the most title defenses. You can make an argument for all of them. But you can argue GSP, as close to perfect as you can possibly get.
GSP is definitely perfect in MMA. he eventually avenged his 2 losses which is more impressive than being undefeated. most people are losing their minds when they took their first L and cannot comeback properly, GSP is one of the few fighters who was defined after his losses and overcome it.
WAY too early, she has too much time left on her clock before calling it a day and establishing a legacy. That being said, I don't think she has anyone left to fight. The only thing now is to build up her bank balance.
Khabib was a once in a generation type of talent but he beat 3 out and out strikers in his reign. Half of the current champs have more title defences than that.
@@1daboi100 Its not like the guys he beat were one-dimensional though. He dominated a prime RDA before reaching his peak. RDA is a great grappler in his own right.
You forgot Chael P Sonnen. Not only did he grow up in the mean streets of West Linn, Oregon and SURVIVED, but never lost a round. Unless you count that round were he tapped for Silva because he felt bad beating him up for 5 rounds. And we all know we don't.
Bas rutten and Randy couture were what got me into mma. Just imagine if randy hadn't started so late in life. The guy never fought even close to his prime. And look at the people it took to beat him even as an old man. To me it will always be one of the tragedies of MMA history that we got Couture so late.
When Marty Guzmán demands "respect on his name", someone should play this video for him. I've said many times, it's not just about winning fights and titles.
I think what he meant was that Randy was the only fighter to win back his title in an immediate rematch. Between Randy getting his belt back against Vitor and recently Figgy against Moreno, believe it or not every champion lost the immediate rematch. And yes while Stipe did get his belt back, the rematch wasn't technically immediate because DC snuck in a short notice title defence against Derrick Lewis. And yes Stipe did deserve to belong on this list, I'd argue in place of Amanda Nunes because her (baffling) loss to Pena is a blemish. Rose is still building her legacy, when its all said and done I think her career will be regarded as a successful one and she'll go down as one of the WMMA greats. Jones though has tarnished his legacy by thrice failing drug tests like a drug cheat and his countless transgressions outside the cage.
Khabib, phenomenal fighter and MMA record. The posing with, and ties to Kadyrov is not so phenomenal in my opinion. Would be tough for me to personally include him on a list like this.
Bas and Frank really are forgotten by the newer fans because so many don't realize UFC wasn't the first, or best, MMA organization of the time. If you really want to see what these guys were about just watch their 2nd fight. And if you really want some perspective on how ahead of their time they were just watch some of the other fights of the era and you will see how most fighters were much more one dimensional.
Consecutive losses and failed drug tests tarnished his legacy. You cannot overlook this aspect of his legacy, its part of his history and sadly he was responsible for it.
It doesn't make her legacy void, but its a blemish that will hang over her for the rest of her career. Not because it happened, but the way it happened. You couldn't get a more embarrassing loss as champ then that, it also was a bad look for WMMA because of how sloppy the exchanges were. Its much worse then when Anderson Silva got KO'd while taunting, as at least Silva won many fights before while taunting.
Not that she should be first, but how is Cyborg not top 10? Champion for 4 different organizations. 25-2-0-1 record. Unbeaten for 13 years. 21 stoppages, 20 kos. Helps build wells in Africa. Lost to Nunes then dominated the next 5 opponents.
@@thomas_walker lol 😂. No it’s cause after he retired he started helping Bellator alot. and then had a whole ass legal case with UFC. That’s why don’t talk out of your ass please
@@thomas_walker ya you don’t help the rival company after you retire especially if your a legend of the company you retired from. No shit he was gonna get backlash from the UFC cause of that.
Who try’s to assault Liddell?, mans is a killer drunk or sober, I’ve never heard a story of Liddell being drunk and getting his ass whooped, it’s always the opposite and a common detail which reoccurs is him against the wall throwing punches
GSP easily the GOAT, beat opponents at their own game, avenged his notable losses, all those records. He beat a murderers row of killers, many of who were juiced to the gills. He embodies what a mixed martial artist is. Nobody comes close to GSP
Poor stipe😕 I don’t care how much more of a career he has. He’s already ETCHED HIS LEGACY. It’s actually quite criminal to not have him on this list, let alone to not even mention him. He’s a true gent, fighter and a good human.
I don't think Khabib belongs with the other fighters here. He got down in the gutter with MacGregor - putting a stain on the sport's credibility - and retired before hammering out a legacy comparable to the other fighters here. I like and admire the man, and I don't really hold the above against him as a fighter or a human being, but he doesn't have a "concrete legacy" like the others here. There's just too much "what could have been" and "that's unfortunate" to put his legacy up there with GSP and Demetrius Johnson.
Don't blame Khabib for getting agitated by Conor's awful trash talk and clownish antics. Also at the end of the day he was undefeated at the highest level which counts for something, and utterly dominant in his prime. His legacy at face value may not compare to what GSP and other champs did based on defences, but the dominance and undefeated status makes him special in that regard. Don't fall for the toxic haters who are trying to tear down his legacy at every opportunity, those people don't listen to reason.
Moreno did not get robbed. Really close, though. I was pissed at him for not kicking it up in the last round, but then I remembered that just means they have to fight again. So it's the fans who have truly won.
@@feebypeels2883 I don't think Moreno respected Figgy's power the way he should have. Yes he had the (Mexican) chin and recovery to take his best shots, but he was getting knocked down several times and that affected the judges decision. I do hope the fight serves as a lesson for Brandon. When someone has power, you have to respect it otherwise you'll the lose fight or worse, your consciousness.
I loved it when GSP tried to trash talk, it never landed. I would laugh every time and my friends would joke about how he was contractually obligated to try to trash talk and that's what you get when you do that.
Chuck Liddell responsible for the one of the first huge waves of fans to the UFC . even the people that don’t really know shit about UFC know about Chuck Liddel
What's up, fight fans!?!? Thanks for watching! I just wanted to touch on Stipe Miocic not being on the list as I see a few of you mentioned him. The reason he was not included is because he is still creating his legacy, where as everybody else on this list has been firmly etched in stone, even the active fighters that appeared. If Stipe didn't still have some potentially major chapters left in his career, her certainly could have warranted inclusion!
I can respect that. What about DC tho?
Bro stipe is gonna retire lol
@@v1ncent702 Yeah, I thought he'd be at least an honorable mention,
though since he hasn't totally distanced himself from the sport, he may still have some room.
Huh? Still creating his legacy? Holy shit bro are you serious? 🤣🤣
@@alexisreed1040where did you see that he’s retiring? Honest question because I haven’t seen that. I remember him saying he isn’t done and will come back for sure. He also looks very good. I don’t think he should retire… a lot of money on the table still
Stipe the most under appreciated champ and fighter in ufc history. Feel so bad for the poor guy, he is not even getting mentioned in heavyweight contender category
You ain't kidding. Last night Bret Okamoto said Stipe needs atleast one win before he deserves another shot at the gold. Wtf. I want Jon Jones vs Francis as much as the next guy but Stipe deserves the shot next. Alot more then Gane did.
With Gane losing the stipe fight def makes the most sense. I really don’t see stipe winning and I don’t want to see him get kod again.
DJ is the most underrated champ of all time. People forget his 12 title defenses at flyweight
@@aliabdelaziz7585 your probably right generally speaking but he atleast made this list.
@@michaelrandall7667 true. Im still salty the way the UFC did him tho
GSP is a great embodiment for the sport, always class, a dominant champion, and all around great sportsman
Absolutely agree. It's a shame that people like MacGregor drew such bigger gates. If you care about the sport, GSP should be your model.
Shit take
War Machine should be on this list
@@iimax_9135 bait
@@iimax_9135 shit bate
Surprised jones didn't make the list:
Well disciplined
Never failed a drug test
Great sportsmanship
Never cheated in and outside the cage
Never sparred with a woman
💀
Oh my fucking god go to toxic twitter, you’ll see that same response but dead serious.
Don't forget Complete gentleman in every press conference to his opponent and the press
Facts
I feel like Stipe deserves to be on this list. Most Heavyweight title Defenses in UFC history. Beat DC (who also could be on this list) twice, Francis, Hunt, Werdum, JDS, Overeem among others. Never popped. Was exciting. Hes an absolute gent continues as a firefighter when he doesnt need to. Imo his legacy in undisputed and he should be on this list and very near the top
@@amadeuschavez. In his weight class
The list is a joke. Omitting Stipe while including fighters with criminal records (Frank Shamrock) and straight up personal ties with dictators who are responsible for crimes against humanity (Khabib and Fedor)? MMA On Point sure has run out of list ideas.
Well he’s also been slept twice in last 4 fights
@@josephsedqy8168 it's heavyweight bro. Many people still considered Cain Velasquez one of the best.
Stipe is always being disrespected. He didn't even get a rematch after the DC loss and now it's the same with Francis
"Randy Couture, the only fighter to ever win back a title after losing it"
Man nobody ever shows Stipe respect. That's cold...
Also GSP
Now Figueredo too
*Thug* *Rose,* *Jon* *Jones* and Soon to be *Petr* *Yan* as well.
Cain Velasquez
Dom Cruz as well. and *TJ* *"Snake* *in* *the* *Grass"* *Dillashaw* also. *IDK* why they said that.
He may not be the only one but he was the FIRST to do so..
Why GSP is the G.O.A.T to me: He outclassed elite wrestlers on the ground and elite strikers striking. And nearly all of his competition was in their primes as far as age.
Age means nothing unless you’re over 40.
GSP is the most overrated fighter ever fought in the weakest welterweight era at the time. In his prime he got knocked out by tomato can 🥫Matt Serra and tapped out like chicken mcgregor.
Lmfao that's not true. He would strike vs wrestlers and wrestle against strikers lol. He was a great champion but he was such a safe fighter that if you really watched him during his reign, you can go out and piss and miss nothing when you come back
@@TBE99 are you intoxicated or someting.
@@samme79 yeah I recall being a huge GSP hater back in the day and it wasn't a fringe thing either. The common perception was he just played it safe
Stipe always overlooked the man was always an underdog in his fights even as a champion has the most heavyweight title defenses and regained his title after losing to DC
I think casuals overlook Stipe but big fans don’t
Stipe is a legend & when he knocks out Bones for the soon to be vacant heavyweight championship everyone will know it!
@@MrOldboy360 Jones will make stipe tap like chicken mcgregor
@@TBE99 Ha! And then you woke up from watching a boring handpicked Mayweather fight. And the only chicken who won't sign the contract is Bones.
@@wikz8480 Because the UFC never wanted him as their Heavyweight champion, let alone be the greatest in company history. They deliberately underpromoted him in the hopes he'd be dethroned by a popular fighter who was also a company man like Daniel Cormier. Unfortunately for Stipe and his devoted fanbase, DC pulled off the upset and just like that the UFC was already down to promote the next fight between DC and Brock Lesnar for the belt conveniently forgetting Stipe even existed. Ultimately the Lesnar fight fell through, DC snuck in a defence against Derrick Lewis and the UFC had no choice but to book the rematch between DC and Stipe, which Stipe won of course after a hard-fought battle. But the story didn't end there, DC wanted an immediate rematch himself so they booked the trilogy which Stipe also won after another hard-fought battle.
The UFC is vindictive and petty towards fighters who don't tow the promotional line. Stipe is one of those, and the promotion will cheat them out of an appropriate salary and superstardom leading to them being underappreciated by the casual fanbase. A similar thing is happening with Francis Ngannou, which is funny because he was the monster Dana White and the UFC helped create.
Great to see Frank getting the respect and recognition he deserves. Not to mention he was one of the first true mixed martial artists.
It was amazing to watch him pass the torch to the next gen after the Diaz defeat and then shift his focus towards becoming the greatest father possible for his daughter.
In addition, Frank knew when to retire from the sport, ensuring his legacy was intact and unblemished despite having losses. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for his older brother Ken.
Frank basically only continued into Strikeforce to put over the next generation of fighters.
Frank also overcame some legit personal hardships and demons. He was a troubled kid and paid the price. Apparently he did some time in prison in his youth. Clear,y he paid his debt and went on to a great redemption arc. One my my all time faves.
For Randy Couture to be perma-banned from the UFC while Jones and McGregor get pass after pass is criminal
I can understand Conor, he's a fucking money printer for the UFC. Why Jon though? He's not like a crazy draw or something.
Exactly & they only permanently banned him after he quit fighting not when he was still active they have no use for him on top of the lawsuits & disagreements
@@1daboi100 Jon Jones is not a crazy draw? Are you kidding?
@@Geo-fx3mn he doesn't pull the same numbers as a lot of fighters
@@Geo-fx3mn he does what, 500k to 600k at most? Modern day UFC with Izzy, Porier etc do that number no problem.
Stipe continuing his reign as most underappreciated goat in the sport 🥲
They didn't even mention anderson silva
@@stephengrigg5988 anderson silva got caught with PEDs
These guys are dc fans so they hate stipe
@@EmirAssassin I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that that was only later in his career, but I get you. My thing is if he's out of the talk for that, I never want to hear about Jones again. I hate that he gets a pass and he's still in the goat talk even though he's been caught cheating numerous times
Stipe is such an unsung hero. He is so underappreciated as a fighter and human being is scary. World needs people like Stipe. Shame to not even mention him just shame.
As someone who was born and raised in NE Ohio I love Stipe. Couldn't be more proud of him he is what all pro athletes should strive to be. Amazing person and fighter.
You are right
I think Rich Franklin deserved at least a mention here for giving mma a legitimate claim away from the "brutal violent human cockfighting" image it had.
and he had a legit winstreak as well!
dude literally looked like Bruce Banner. Mild mannered and soft spoken but a legit killer in the cage!
Couldn't agree more!
That Khabib v Conor ordeal sort of stained Khabib’s almost concrete legacy.
Also you guys forgot DC! He’s up there with GSP in my opinion
Not really lost his last two fights
@@dantdt4693 So? Dude was 40
there's a thing called cultural appropriation. Talking shit about your momma for 3 months and after the fight shake hands while saying it was just business and I respect you. That may be believable in media-driven american culture but I can assure you brother the rest of the world don't appreciate these kinda fake shits.
@@dantdt4693 they were both title fights against one of the greatest heavyweights of all time wtf
@@abominably_antisocial How exactly is that cultural appropriation?
GSP is indeed the greatest of all time
I agree
Yup
Definitely not
Khabib no losses
@@christopherfrank3015 khabib is among the goats for me aswell. Zero losses against the toughest competitors in the toughest division. And GSP lost to matt sera which isn't a good look no matter which way you cut it lol. Still though GSP will forever be the actual GOAT for me
I remember watching Fedor lose to Werdum and I was in shock and couldn't believe it for the life of me.
And what he said after was amazing about if you don't fall then you cant stand back up.
Watching him just jump into werdum’s guard was like watching a family pet sprint off into traffic.
I think I literally yelled when he lost. His standing up line is god tier.
@@matthewgalbreath5520 no. In hindsight, sure, but he's handled jiujitsu and triangles before. Werdum was NOT letting Fedor f around and Fedor did f around too much in it.
He dropped him! Werdum hit the deck after the first exchange. I just figured he was going to put the ol’ Fedor ground & pound clinic on that ass. He beat the brakes off of Minotauro Nogueira, who was STILL considered the best heavyweight submission artist in the game at the time, from his guard! Same thing with Ricardo Arona “The Prince of Jiu-Jitsu”. Fedor stifled BJJ like it was nothing. I just thought it was business as usual, if not the beginning of the end for Werdum. He had done it a thousand times before, and wrecked everybody. Even Werdum was surprised when he wasn’t able to escape that triangle.
@@aplus1080 It’s literally the first time he didn’t simply escape, pass guard, or just stack the dude, and proceed to beat the BJJ fighter into oblivion! 😂 NOBODY saw that shit coming.
Randy Couture "The only fighter to win a title back after losing it"? What about Tim Sylvia, Cain Velasquez, and Stipe Miocic? All three are two time heavyweight champs.
not only did GSP beat Josh Koscheck, he outwrestled him, an Olympic wrestler, and he had no experience wrestling until he started his MMA training.
Josh Koscheck wasn't an Olympic Wrestler
Koscheck was not an Olympic wrestler, you don’t need to make up fake facts to make GSP more impressive, his resume already speaks for itself.
Koscheck was D1; GSP did go tit for tat with Hendricks, who's one of the best college wrestlers ever and was on rocket fuel, so that's pretty impressive
GSP fan for life
Tapped to strikes 😂😂😂
@@SKumarInTech Lol didn’t you say everyone ducked Tony Ferguson in another comment section?
Tony gave up against Justin Gaethje 🤣
@@SKumarInTech I bet you did. I'm sorry you got smacked around
I’m disappointed, Chael is undefeated, undisputed and obviously needs a spot on this list and all the lists y’all make. Including lists exclusively for women.
This joke is so damn old. That being said, I humbly agree
@@jordan3851 a man of culture
Uh
So original!
😂 classic
From all accounts, chuck was an absolute mad man outside of the cage, yet was able to keep his nose out of serious trouble. Proving you can have the cake and eat it too, for a time
Anderson Silva is definitely the Jordan of MMA not Fedor. I understain Fedor's reign was longer, but watching Silva perform was like watching a masterclass. That front-kick knockout to the face is equivalent to Jordan doing a dunk from the foul line. He looked like Bruce Lee in there for years!!!
Amen. Silva was un-be-lievable
It's a "you had to be there" type of thing. If you were actively following MMA back in 2000-2010 you'd understand. And by "following" I don't mean watching an occasional early UFC card while wearing an affliction T-shirt.
He did get popped for peds.Other than that yes.
Apparently fuck silvas long reign and ability to look unstoppable at middle weight, khabib has 3 title defenses and beat Conor, Dustin and Justin.... This list is a joke.
@@richardmorris7063 he was later cleared on that
Both Stipe and Daniel Cormier deserve to be on this list 1000%. Both have clearly established legacies. MMA on point you're an awesome channel but that's rather glaring.
I love it when you guys do list like these. They leave me feeling so good. Also, grateful it was Tommy doing the list.
DJ was really fun to watch and never gets the credit he deserves. That mid air armbar blew my mind when I watched it live. Good guy out the ring too.
So glad Fedor gets a proper mention here.
The man was and is all class. Always let the fight do the talking even lost with grace and I'm sad he's lost in the current landscape as he defined an era for ages.
All that and being an undersized heavyweight who trained in his home gym and refused to so weights past 35. Absolute machine
My favorite fighter all time. He basically got me hooked on MMA around 2006. He's tied for GOAT with GSP imo.
@@BeeStrings I think with Silva/Jones out for roids, its GSP, Fedor, DJ, Khabib, and Aldo for top 5.
@@julianmarx2002 Aldo never juiced???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣did you forget his WEC days, plus max Holloway has better legacy if he regains the belt.
I came across MMA from a rampage fight and then heard bas rutens commentary and then watched Fedor fight and he was so so fast and just unbelievably powerful. Grappled whenever he wanted or didn't want to. Nastiest ground and pound I've ever seen Vs noguiera. Just unbelievable fighter. Still can't bring myself to watch any of the losses again.
@@Dizzylittlelord Nogueira was the greatest submission artist in the heavyweight division as well, and instead of waiting for a stand up, Fedor just dove into his guard and beat the shit out of him. Legendary.
I think Max Holloway and Stipe could have easily made this list. But I understand their omissions
Anderson Silva, Bj Penn, Royce, Rousey in terms of legacy in mma history could have had spots
@@neilshah5084 idk if you can include Bj Penn just after that street fight where he got slept by some random bloke
@@neilshah5084 rousey??? She was definitely groundbreaking at the time but come on. She threw a huge hissy fit and dissed the sport that made her famous in the first place. If she took her loss with grace I could see her on this list. But nah, not with that attitude
@@neilshah5084 Royce and Anderson have popped for PEDs, that’s definitely a tarnish on their legacy, but their contribution to the sport was top of the line.
@@jamesrobinson1918 definitely not Anderson too. He popped up for PED.
I think a shocking omission might be Valentina. She's a great ambassador for the sport.
She's still building her legacy. Give it a year or two and it'll be concrete. First woman (perhaps fighter) to fill her belt with rubies and most consecutive title defences of any WMMA fighter would be a major accomplishment. Of course in MMA nothing is set in stone.
Val is gonna run out of opponents before she can make a list like this. Otherwise I agree.
@@alugificator I can't help but ponder that Valentina was cheated out of having a perfect legacy by way of circumstances. A split decision loss to Amanda Nunes which could have easily gone her way, never got to fight Ronda Rousey, didn't get to beat a reigning champion at 125 instead fighting for a vacant title leading many to believe that the division was created specifically for her. Opponents who are too scared to push the pace against her leading to some lackluster fights, will probably never get a third fight against Amanda Nunes and never got the chance to end Zhang Weili's win streak.
@@madgavin7568 I mean, it would have to be Weili moving up to fight to fight Valentina, and I'm sure it would have happened if Weili had remained the strawweight champion. But it's not like Val's legacy will suffer because of Weili lol
@@weaponx2888 Its just it will a 'what could have been' legacy instead of a perfect one.
That Nunez vs Cyborg fight was so awesome. The violence was just incredible
Stipe should definitely be on that list
Randy is not the only one to win a title after he losing it. Cain, Stipe, Sylvia, Figuirendo, TJ, GSP, Hughes and Rose did it too. Randy is the first but not the only one.
this is one of the best top tens y'all have done! every fighter here definitely deserved their spot
I would love to see Aldo recapture UFC gold. It would be such a great story to see
If he could avenge his loss to Petyr it would be glorious to say the least.
@@isaiahroque8055 too bad Yan is a fucking machine 😭
@@isaiahroque8055 I just don't see it happening. Aldo could very well come up short against Sandhagen or Dillashaw. His chances against Sterling are good though.
@@madgavin7568 I don't like sterling but his bjj and wrestling can f*ck aldo up.
@@OK-vb8kg That's actually why they say Aldo would do well. He's the hardest person to keep on the ground in FW and BW or probably hardest person to control p4p.
GSP is for sure the G.O.A.T. Class at all times, and poise like no other.
DJ should be at the top hands down... carrying an entire weight class and keeping it alive when it was to be canned... that itself speaks volume..
Not many elite competition like gsp silva and jones
Unfortunately his dominance as champion was exactly the reason why the UFC was looking to axe the weight-class altogether once he left. DJ was really the only man in the division anyone knew, and Henry Cejudo hadn't quite yet established himself as one of the best. Many thought Henry was gifted the win over DJ in their rematch after all.
Am I just confused? They said Randy is the only person to win a title back. But haven't multiple fighters done that? DC did it just a few years ago with Stipe right?
Here so early, the concrete is still wet.
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Lol good one
I’m glad Jones want on this list, I’m sorry but the peds and arrest ruined it for him
Jones has cemented himself as a scum bag POS cheater
Just thank you!
Aldo has been on top for it seems like years. Plus he's a solid dude.
This is one of the best lists you guys have ever put together
Overlooked fighters on this list:
Dominic Cruz
DC
Stipe
Cain
Fghters that will most likely end up on this list:
Charles Oliveira
Kamaru Usman
Francis Ngannou
Henry Cejudo
Cejudo retired too early and nearly all his best wins have asterisks over them. Oliveira I have no idea how long he'll remain as champion.
DC's rivalry whit Jones kind of ruins it tho
GSP always going to be my favorite fighter for life
GSP is the GOAT
No matter how good Usman gets,he will never overshadow GSP
Saku needed to be on this list
GSP is the GOAT in my opinion 🐐
I think GSP is the only one that you objectively can't argue about. I think he is a close to perfect as you can get in the sport. Sure khabib is undefeated, sure DJ has the most title defenses. You can make an argument for all of them. But you can argue GSP, as close to perfect as you can possibly get.
GSP is definitely perfect in MMA. he eventually avenged his 2 losses which is more impressive than being undefeated. most people are losing their minds when they took their first L and cannot comeback properly, GSP is one of the few fighters who was defined after his losses and overcome it.
Stipe should be here, well rounded game for a heavyweight
Would it be too early to include Bullet Shevchenko on this list? She’s the embodiment of a martial artist.
Best female fighter ever imo
@@ald3n507 same here
She's still building her legacy.
Good argument she’s already the wmma goat
WAY too early, she has too much time left on her clock before calling it a day and establishing a legacy. That being said, I don't think she has anyone left to fight. The only thing now is to build up her bank balance.
Seeing Brock training with Randy was like seeing El Cucuy sitting next to Gaethje yesterday at 270 😭 so so weird
I found it disturbing
How is Valentina not on here? Number one P4P and a wonderful person with huge influence in her home country
Top 5 (in no particular order)
GSP
Khabib
Stipe Miocic
Jose Aldo
Randy Couture
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Throw Demetrius in there.
replace Khabib with DJ and your list is pretty much mine.
Khabib was a once in a generation type of talent but he beat 3 out and out strikers in his reign. Half of the current champs have more title defences than that.
@@1daboi100 Its not like the guys he beat were one-dimensional though. He dominated a prime RDA before reaching his peak. RDA is a great grappler in his own right.
@@abishekarun7342 who tf cares ur opinion if u don't like Khabib there you should not add him in ur lost lol
You forgot to mention that Randy and Chuck are the only two men in the world who look good in an Affliction tshirt.
Interesting how a lot of the fighters on this list have had a rocky history with the ufc.. hmm
Imagine the worst line GSP has ever said was, "I am not impressed by your performance." XDDDD
You forgot Chael P Sonnen.
Not only did he grow up in the mean streets of West Linn, Oregon and SURVIVED, but never lost a round. Unless you count that round were he tapped for Silva because he felt bad beating him up for 5 rounds. And we all know we don't.
That mustache at 8:05 is one of the most legendary things to appear on this list.
HOW is Stipe not on this list?
Probably the first list of yours I can agree with 100%, Great job.
Chael P. Sonnen invented Mixed Martial Arts, where is he?
Bas rutten and Randy couture were what got me into mma.
Just imagine if randy hadn't started so late in life. The guy never fought even close to his prime. And look at the people it took to beat him even as an old man. To me it will always be one of the tragedies of MMA history that we got Couture so late.
When Marty Guzmán demands "respect on his name", someone should play this video for him.
I've said many times, it's not just about winning fights and titles.
The first two fighters I thought of when I saw the title were Couture and GSP. Well done.
Wait what? Randy Couture is the only fighter to win back his champion title. What about Stipe and Namajunas and Jones?
I think what he meant was that Randy was the only fighter to win back his title in an immediate rematch. Between Randy getting his belt back against Vitor and recently Figgy against Moreno, believe it or not every champion lost the immediate rematch. And yes while Stipe did get his belt back, the rematch wasn't technically immediate because DC snuck in a short notice title defence against Derrick Lewis. And yes Stipe did deserve to belong on this list, I'd argue in place of Amanda Nunes because her (baffling) loss to Pena is a blemish.
Rose is still building her legacy, when its all said and done I think her career will be regarded as a successful one and she'll go down as one of the WMMA greats. Jones though has tarnished his legacy by thrice failing drug tests like a drug cheat and his countless transgressions outside the cage.
You guys need honorable mentions for this one: Stipe and Dan Henderson come to mind.
Randy Couture better be on here !
Surprised not to see Sakuraba and Marco Ruas.
MMA On Point has cemented itself as
my favourite MMA UA-cam channel 🤙
Jose Aldo and Conor need to run it back in my opinion
Khabib, phenomenal fighter and MMA record.
The posing with, and ties to Kadyrov is not so phenomenal in my opinion. Would be tough for me to personally include him on a list like this.
Might Mouse isn't talked about enough for who and what he is in CS
gsp being 1 is granted i’m pretty sure he got a lot of people including myself into the sport
The absolute best of the best as fighters and equally as important as people.
What about Chael Sonnen? Undefeated, undisputed. The man never lost a fight. He never even lost a round
because the list is only for humans
Bas and Frank really are forgotten by the newer fans because so many don't realize UFC wasn't the first, or best, MMA organization of the time. If you really want to see what these guys were about just watch their 2nd fight. And if you really want some perspective on how ahead of their time they were just watch some of the other fights of the era and you will see how most fighters were much more one dimensional.
GSP never avenged his losses against Captain America or The Falcon. Overrated.
Part of why i loved GTA4 ricky gervais standup and bass just being bass lol
do top ten fighters who talk during the fight or top ten fighters talking during the fight moments please
Incredible video! I’m shocked that Anderson didn’t make the list tho
Consecutive losses and failed drug tests tarnished his legacy. You cannot overlook this aspect of his legacy, its part of his history and sadly he was responsible for it.
Glad Nunes was put on this list. People are acting like this one set back makes her legacy void.
Well said, most MMA fans are forgetful unfortunately
It doesn't make her legacy void, but its a blemish that will hang over her for the rest of her career. Not because it happened, but the way it happened. You couldn't get a more embarrassing loss as champ then that, it also was a bad look for WMMA because of how sloppy the exchanges were. Its much worse then when Anderson Silva got KO'd while taunting, as at least Silva won many fights before while taunting.
Thank you MMA on Point for continuously teaching us about the history of MMA
Khabib over DJ? What???
I think we were robbed of Aldo/Conor 2
Chuck Liddell is like ''stone cold'' Steave Austin of MMA
Love this channel
Jon jones brought me here
I hope he didn't drive you. Playing with fire there
Not that she should be first, but how is Cyborg not top 10? Champion for 4 different organizations. 25-2-0-1 record. Unbeaten for 13 years. 21 stoppages, 20 kos. Helps build wells in Africa. Lost to Nunes then dominated the next 5 opponents.
Randy Couture being banned from the UFC really shows you how much of an egomanical hack Dana White is.
It's more like how much Dana hates it when someone who used to earn him a lot of money earning another organization money
@@champ1159 They probably do that because he underpays fighters and otherwise treats them like shit.
@@thomas_walker lol 😂. No it’s cause after he retired he started helping Bellator alot. and then had a whole ass legal case with UFC. That’s why don’t talk out of your ass please
@@belalajjaj5718 Right. After he retired. He wasn't even fighting in the UFC anymore, and Dana still banned him because Couture hurt his feelings.
@@thomas_walker ya you don’t help the rival company after you retire especially if your a legend of the company you retired from. No shit he was gonna get backlash from the UFC cause of that.
Who try’s to assault Liddell?, mans is a killer drunk or sober, I’ve never heard a story of Liddell being drunk and getting his ass whooped, it’s always the opposite and a common detail which reoccurs is him against the wall throwing punches
GSP easily the GOAT, beat opponents at their own game, avenged his notable losses, all those records. He beat a murderers row of killers, many of who were juiced to the gills. He embodies what a mixed martial artist is. Nobody comes close to GSP
Good list. GSP and Fedor would be my 1 & 2 as well.
Poor stipe😕 I don’t care how much more of a career he has. He’s already ETCHED HIS LEGACY. It’s actually quite criminal to not have him on this list, let alone to not even mention him. He’s a true gent, fighter and a good human.
GSP is a legend in and out of the octagon. He is as close to god status as you can get in UFC.
How did y’all miss DC? Or Stipe? Smfh
Henry Cejudo?
Dominick Cruz?
Cain Velasquez?
Max Holloway?
You should do a fun video on the twins of mma. Fighter that look like each other or are compared when fighting like Nasrat H and Gastelum.
I don't think Khabib belongs with the other fighters here. He got down in the gutter with MacGregor - putting a stain on the sport's credibility - and retired before hammering out a legacy comparable to the other fighters here.
I like and admire the man, and I don't really hold the above against him as a fighter or a human being, but he doesn't have a "concrete legacy" like the others here. There's just too much "what could have been" and "that's unfortunate" to put his legacy up there with GSP and Demetrius Johnson.
completely agree. don't know how they put him ahead of the likes of DJ and Aldo.
Don't blame Khabib for getting agitated by Conor's awful trash talk and clownish antics. Also at the end of the day he was undefeated at the highest level which counts for something, and utterly dominant in his prime. His legacy at face value may not compare to what GSP and other champs did based on defences, but the dominance and undefeated status makes him special in that regard.
Don't fall for the toxic haters who are trying to tear down his legacy at every opportunity, those people don't listen to reason.
AMM on Poink: Randy Contour is the oldest firstime Champion in UFC.
Clover Tousiera: Am I Joke to you?
Top 10 “Robberies” that really weren’t robberies.
Example: GSP vs Hendricks, Figgy vs Moreno 3, Jones vs Santos
Moreno did not get robbed. Really close, though. I was pissed at him for not kicking it up in the last round, but then I remembered that just means they have to fight again. So it's the fans who have truly won.
@@feebypeels2883 I agree. I had 1, 3, and 5 for Figgy.
@@feebypeels2883 I don't think Moreno respected Figgy's power the way he should have. Yes he had the (Mexican) chin and recovery to take his best shots, but he was getting knocked down several times and that affected the judges decision. I do hope the fight serves as a lesson for Brandon. When someone has power, you have to respect it otherwise you'll the lose fight or worse, your consciousness.
I loved it when GSP tried to trash talk, it never landed. I would laugh every time and my friends would joke about how he was contractually obligated to try to trash talk and that's what you get when you do that.
Solid list but where is DC??
Chuck Liddell responsible for the one of the first huge waves of fans to the UFC . even the people that don’t really know shit about UFC know about Chuck Liddel