Using different banks for separate lights. I would not have thought of that. As long as the lights don't need the upper addresses, instead of getting X-number of channels, you get X*2, or X*4. Brilliant.
Thanks for your previous tutorial videos. Great idea to share your Fixture/Scanner channels with an additional lights if you have more than 12 simple lights, however I think your explanation on how it's happening is a bit confusing. As I understand it, Fixture 1 button works for channels 1-16, but instead of having 16 physical sliders, they give you 8, with 1-8 on Page 1 and 9-16 on Page 2. Fixture 2 button works for channels 17-32, with 17-25 on Page 1 and 26-32 on Page 2. So yeah if your light doesn't have more than 8 channels, you can assign one to channel 1, and another to channel 9, Your scenario was working cause you first 4 lights were assigned to channels 1, 17, 33, and 49 respectively (accessed via Fixture 1-4 Page 1) Then you were able to squeeze in your 5th light into the channel 9 slot (accessed via Fixture 1 Page 2). The reason to make this clarification is because many complicated/moving lights use more than 8 channels, so will automatically occupy both Pages within their Fixture #. In other words, you can only squeeze two lights into one Fixture button when both lights need less than 9 channels, and should probably only be setup this way when you've got more lights than you have Fixture buttons. BTW the same hack should work for devices that need more than 16 channels. So if a hypothetical device has 20 channels, and its starting channel address is 1 (so channels 1-20), it could be controlled by Fixture 1 Page 1/2 (the first 16 channels), and the first 4 sliders on Fixture 2 Page 1. Crazy. Sorry for the long note. I hope this helps someone.
My situation was more explaining that if you have fixtures that use only half the number of faders on a page then you can assign two fixtures to one page, and therefore you can have 4 separate things going on with a single channel. 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, then channel 2 starts 17. Granted this may not be necessary so much but could possibly prove helpful down the road Especially if you want to have background lighting change scenes, but keep a vast amount of the same things in place, and this exceeds more than the evident 24 starting points. Granted it may never be necessary, but it's doable. And yes you're correct, moving heads definitely can eat up a whole 32 channel page setup easily. I've not worked with lighti9ng since I lost my vision a few years ago, but I still do what I can to help.
No problem. I need to do more tutorials when I can bring some lights home, to demonstrate some examples of multi tasking. I need to get some washers as well for all I have are spots. basically.
I wanna learn more about setting up mini-spiders, spider 3x3, moving head-spots etc as I won’t be using many (if any) can lights because I’m not lighting a stage. My light shows are going to be out in fields or parking lots as a pre fireworks show. I need lots of moving things and lasers. Gonna be expensive I know but I have a good start on building my fixtures. Now I just gotta get this controller stuff down. If you focus on stuff like this in the future I sure would be interested. Thanks for the vids man.
when I used this set up, the way I did it was I would toggle the lights on from the selection on the left, and then whatever they are assigned to during the current chase or scene, it will stay as the rest of the scene/chase runs. Once the light is deselected, it will continue it's previous state, if I recall correctly
I Never thought of using the Page B side for their own lights. Great Idea! QUESTION : I have been trying to find out if there is a way to master fade in or out all fixtures? Slow fade in or out etc instead of instant blackout. Any ideas?
Thomas Ebert no I have not. But the same applications would apply. Those large probably require both sides page 8 and it be to operate so just look at your manual and see how many channels each light consist of and if it goes beyond eight, then remembered that he will have to switch to channel or page beach the channels up nine through 16 and you can adjust your fixtures accordingly.
I am new to this stuff. I have a Chauvet 40 with 4 chauvet par 64's and 4 eyourlife 42x3 led par 64's. Would the addresses be the same idea? I have them daisy chained but when i turn on red the Chauvets turn green. Plus the Chauvet's won't strobe.
Not all fixtures use the same amount of channels or in the same sequence. ie, a moving head might have a dimmer channel, r, g, b, horizontal movement, vertical movement, macro 1, macro 2, macro 3. Refer to the fixtures notes or manual to see what channels do what.
Using different banks for separate lights. I would not have thought of that. As long as the lights don't need the upper addresses, instead of getting X-number of channels, you get X*2, or X*4. Brilliant.
The address trick is great! I want to alternate flashing between two par cans, and this makes it way easier!
Thanks for your previous tutorial videos. Great idea to share your Fixture/Scanner channels with an additional lights if you have more than 12 simple lights, however I think your explanation on how it's happening is a bit confusing.
As I understand it, Fixture 1 button works for channels 1-16, but instead of having 16 physical sliders, they give you 8, with 1-8 on Page 1 and 9-16 on Page 2. Fixture 2 button works for channels 17-32, with 17-25 on Page 1 and 26-32 on Page 2. So yeah if your light doesn't have more than 8 channels, you can assign one to channel 1, and another to channel 9, Your scenario was working cause you first 4 lights were assigned to channels 1, 17, 33, and 49 respectively (accessed via Fixture 1-4 Page 1) Then you were able to squeeze in your 5th light into the channel 9 slot (accessed via Fixture 1 Page 2).
The reason to make this clarification is because many complicated/moving lights use more than 8 channels, so will automatically occupy both Pages within their Fixture #. In other words, you can only squeeze two lights into one Fixture button when both lights need less than 9 channels, and should probably only be setup this way when you've got more lights than you have Fixture buttons.
BTW the same hack should work for devices that need more than 16 channels. So if a hypothetical device has 20 channels, and its starting channel address is 1 (so channels 1-20), it could be controlled by Fixture 1 Page 1/2 (the first 16 channels), and the first 4 sliders on Fixture 2 Page 1. Crazy. Sorry for the long note. I hope this helps someone.
My situation was more explaining that if you have fixtures that use only half the number of faders on a page then you can assign two fixtures to one page, and therefore you can have 4 separate things going on with a single channel. 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, then channel 2 starts 17. Granted this may not be necessary so much but could possibly prove helpful down the road Especially if you want to have background lighting change scenes, but keep a vast amount of the same things in place, and this exceeds more than the evident 24 starting points. Granted it may never be necessary, but it's doable. And yes you're correct, moving heads definitely can eat up a whole 32 channel page setup easily. I've not worked with lighti9ng since I lost my vision a few years ago, but I still do what I can to help.
Gerald you're doing fantastic! Thank you so much for all you videos and contribution! You help make UA-cam a great resource.
Learning on an Obey 70 - Washes, PARs and scanners - this gave me a handful of things to try.
Thanks
No problem. I need to do more tutorials when I can bring some lights home, to demonstrate some examples of multi tasking. I need to get some washers as well for all I have are spots. basically.
I wanna learn more about setting up mini-spiders, spider 3x3, moving head-spots etc as I won’t be using many (if any) can lights because I’m not lighting a stage.
My light shows are going to be out in fields or parking lots as a pre fireworks show. I need lots of moving things and lasers. Gonna be expensive I know but I have a good start on building my fixtures. Now I just gotta get this controller stuff down.
If you focus on stuff like this in the future I sure would be interested.
Thanks for the vids man.
Is it possible to activate a chase and totally ignore one fixture? so that this fixture remains in its previous state?
when I used this set up, the way I did it was I would toggle the lights on from the selection on the left, and then whatever they are assigned to during the current chase or scene, it will stay as the rest of the scene/chase runs. Once the light is deselected, it will continue it's previous state, if I recall correctly
I Never thought of using the Page B side for their own lights. Great Idea! QUESTION : I have been trying to find out if there is a way to master fade in or out all fixtures? Slow fade in or out etc instead of instant blackout. Any ideas?
Not with this board, I wish there was a fade transition 'cause that'd make it a much nicer board, but not even the Obey 70 has that option.
@@DWRhythm Thank you so much for the reply. 👍
"With that having been said...good video"
Thanks Gerad. Very helpful.
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dbrimm318 Thanks. I iept seeing a bunch of videos that never went this detailed about stuff so I thought I'd take the chance and take a shot at it.
thank you for these video's
No problem.
Have you ever used the moving intelagent lights with the same obey40 panel?
Thomas Ebert no I have not. But the same applications would apply. Those large probably require both sides page 8 and it be to operate so just look at your manual and see how many channels each light consist of and if it goes beyond eight, then remembered that he will have to switch to channel or page beach the channels up nine through 16 and you can adjust your fixtures accordingly.
No i haven't.
I am new to this stuff. I have a Chauvet 40 with 4 chauvet par 64's and 4 eyourlife 42x3 led par 64's. Would the addresses be the same idea? I have them daisy chained but when i turn on red the Chauvets turn green. Plus the Chauvet's won't strobe.
Not all fixtures use the same amount of channels or in the same sequence. ie, a moving head might have a dimmer channel, r, g, b, horizontal movement, vertical movement, macro 1, macro 2, macro 3. Refer to the fixtures notes or manual to see what channels do what.