Clarification: I made a poor job explaining Reverberation in the video and mistakenly made the comment that it does group wide healing for everyone, when it in fact only does healing to the target of the player who you are generating reverberation stacks on. Holy shock healing is what transfers to others with glimmers on them. Apologies for the confusion.
You don't really explain how the beacon of light macro works with one button I am probably just a goof and am overlooking something simple but i can't seem to get the other beacon on anything without just moving the first one to them instead.
@@iancrockett6462 hello! I’m sorry about that, what you need to do is hold down shift and it will change which spell you are applying. If you look at the macro itself there is a modifier key “shift”. Hope that helps :)
Thanks man, appreciate it! So far there have been no indications that holy paladins will have any changes is season 4 other than the tier set. Good luck out there!
Woooow that's quite some time your guy/gal was on vacation there haha. What made you want to come back to the toon? I am glad the video was helpful, always fun to hear that feedback! Good luck out there and let me know if you have any questions.
@@ValiathGaming Pally is my oldest toon, made her back when WoW first launched, so some sentimental value there. But my guilds hpally main is really good and I was inspired to dust mine off, and for some reason, holy has just been clicking with me really well. Relearning nearly from scratch was challenging, but your vid made things digestible and broke everything down so well that even my enhancement main ass could understand :)
Worth pointing out that you should ALWAYS run devo aura as hpal, even if there's another paladin in group providing it. This so you get the extra damage reduction from aura mastery.
Excellent video as always! I appreciate the hard work you do for the holy paladins community. Btw I’m curious what your thoughts are about the season 2 tier sets returning for season 4? Is it what you wanted, do you think it’ll make hpala meta again?
Thank you! Appreciate that :) I actually was hoping for season 3 tier to remain. It is so good from both a healing and DPS standpoint. I think a lot of paladins believe that the tier set is what made us so good in season 2 when in actuality it was Blizzards tuning of our abilities and the introduction of the exodia comp. The tier was good don't get me wrong, but it was not the source of our power that rocketed us to the top in season 2. For us to get back to S-Tier and possible meta, Blizzard will have to do a lot of buffing of our abilities again, which unfortunately i don't see happening :(
Great insight! I started playing during S3 of DF so I have no experience outside of that. From what I understand, many specs went through that same situation. People conflated power of spec and tier sets and didn’t look at tuning at the time where the class was strong. Looking over hpala discussions, many say that they miss having prism feel significant or a holy shock hit hard for damage/healing. I also understand the point that the glimmer gameplay isn’t very intuitive. It’s hard to see its effect in the moment. I personally like the current too. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see when it comes out. I pray it doesn’t make hpala D tier lol.
Hello!! I have a great list of addons and weakauras in another video :) check it out and look at the links in the description! Must Have Healer Addons & Weakauras | 10.2.5 Dragonflight Season 3 ua-cam.com/video/RUa60Rn9_mo/v-deo.html
@@ValiathGamingawesome thank you for taking the time to direct me in the right direction, wish you all the success man great guide and really easy to follow thanks!
Hello, and thank you! You can find most of the addons and weakauras i use in my Healer Addon Video (ua-cam.com/video/RUa60Rn9_mo/v-deo.html). My VuhDu profile you can find here wago.io/sdJoLbKDl And my ElvUI you can find here wago.io/aLiWtJol6 But, if you want to get a really nice ElvUI setup, check out my friend Jiberish's channel. He makes some of the best ElvUI profiles for healers out there. www.youtube.com/@jiberishui
Thanks, would yo use this build to raid as well ? and do you feel that if we run this in raids, or even mythics should we be changing our beacons consistently ? Thanks and great video. HP was in tuff place and healing has been hard for me into the 19 mythic... this could help.. thanks.. any changes for raid to the tree would you use ? Or this build will pump on both > ? Thanks Holyhero
Hello, thank you for those kind words :) I would not run this same build for raid as the focus for a holy paladin is vastly different. I made a raid healing guide a while back that is super helpful, here is the link :) ua-cam.com/video/78SD68DkuLA/v-deo.html Good luck out there!
Amazing guide! really helped me with my paladin! what do you use for chromie's bar? when I do fall I keep clicking on her but your name plate will make that boss fight much easier so I can mouse over her health!
Hello! Apprecaite the positive feedback :) What i do is as soon as i enter the boss room, i target Chromie and the right click the portrait and select "Set Focus". This leaves a permanent unit frame specifically for her wherever you designated your "Focus Frame" to be. Makes it super easy to select her or to mouseover.
I cant find a single guide for totally new Holy pals for war within ..... Post changes. Ive never ever played the spec and am finding it very hard to grasp as Im coming into it when all anyone is talking about is the changes...
@@ValiathGaming ah thanks. after playing more holy paly i realized its not as bad as i thought! on the other hand though, the holy power spenders that heal, word of glory and the aoe both are kind of a letdown
Hello! I have seen some people play with that choice node successfully for sure. For me personally, I like having wings as a CD I can use when I myself decide it is needed, but also the dps boost it provides is quite nice. Not to mention the 20% CD reduction on holy shock marries quite well into our current play style with our tier. The main problem with AC is that it got nerfed to the ground in 10.1.5 and just doesn’t have the throughput that AW has. It’s fun to play with for sure, but numerically it will probably fall being a bit. Neither judgement or crusader strike will hit hard enough to provide more healing or damage than holy shock will, and you also lose the ability to use hammer of wrath during wings which can do a lot of dps but also healing if talented into veneration. I say try it out and let me know how it goes! In the end if you find yourself playing better with it, then that’s what you should run. Be very curious if your wings uptime is higher than the AW build
@@ValiathGaming oh wow I didn’t even know avenging crusader couldn’t use hammer of wrath that’s super lame. I feel like blizzard should just remove AC because they never tune it to be viable! Except apparently last season when I wasn’t playing.
Hello! Not really as it reduces the number of glimmers you can put out to 1, meaning it basically cripples the entire spec to the point of it being unplayable.
Correct, in general you wouldn’t use daybreak or refreshing reverbs unless you need the healing and most likely everyone in your party has glimmers then. I should have been clearers about that, thank you.
@@ValiathGaming Was something changed since this video was posted? Reverb is only working on the person the reverb buff is on. It isnt healing the whole party, it isnt healing anyone else with glimmer
@@adrianmatthis8706 no it seems I did a bad job explaining the mechanic correctly in the video :( it does not provide aoe healing to the entire group, just the player with the glimmer
Haha not at all! It is the best spec to play though in m+ and does require you to have some patience with judgement. If it’s not for you try out a different build! That is the beauty of this game, nobody can make you do or play anything you don’t want to :)
Hello! Yes is still covers some of season 4. Biggest difference is the change in tier set so those parts are obviously not relevant any longer. Our play style is practically the same but the divine toll and daybreak combo is not as fluid as in s3 because we lost the tier set making daybreak a 45 second CD.
Hello, what am I missing. Im practing on the dummies and the reverb isnt healing anyone other than the target. I thought maybe it was b/c im not in a party with them so I went to a follower dungeon and its still only healing 1 target (8:41)
Hello! Our tier set reverberates healing to the person with glimmers on them. If you holy shock the same person twice and it’s the only person with glimmers on them, only that person will see reverberation healing. Reverberation heals the target to which you applied the holy shock, and then the holy shock spreads healing to others with glimmers. This is why you need to manage who you have your glimmers on so you know who to target with your holy shocks to trigger reverberates for extra healing.
@@ValiathGaming I guess im missunderstanding. Im just testing and im divine tolling so everyone has glimmer and then im reverbing it but its only on that 1 person, trying to understand b/c my healing has felt weak
@@adrianmatthis8706 no you are correct, reverb applies to the person you are targeting with holy shock not the others with glimmers. I made an incorrect comment in the video about this. What does aoe healing is the holy shock healing to others with glimmers, not the reverb healing.
Hear hear! I am working on a Holy Paladin DPS guide as we speak. It is depress mode considering where we were in season 2 and considering what other healers can push out with basically no effort. @@SpudZookaL2G
Actually, it’s the opposite. All of these talents and what they provided do NOT add any more buttons to activate. It is actually one of the only specs that is void of any added bloat whatsoever.
Clarification: I made a poor job explaining Reverberation in the video and mistakenly made the comment that it does group wide healing for everyone, when it in fact only does healing to the target of the player who you are generating reverberation stacks on. Holy shock healing is what transfers to others with glimmers on them. Apologies for the confusion.
What do you mean
Reverberation only hits the person with glimmer on them, not spread across the entire group. I did not make that very clear. @@mikedivittorio3744
You don't really explain how the beacon of light macro works with one button I am probably just a goof and am overlooking something simple but i can't seem to get the other beacon on anything without just moving the first one to them instead.
@@iancrockett6462 hello! I’m sorry about that, what you need to do is hold down shift and it will change which spell you are applying. If you look at the macro itself there is a modifier key “shift”. Hope that helps :)
@@ValiathGaming the macro doesnt work :/
Good, accurate, and to the point. Gets my stamp of approval.
Thanks man, I appreciate that, especially coming from Wowheads own Holy Paladin expert!
I’m a fellow Scandinavian as well :)
easy to understand, good explanation, go to the point, this vid is a masterclass you just made my day
Thanks man! I appreciate that :)
Time to main holy pala ty for a Nice guide and deep-dive, easy and understandable gj
Thanks man, appreciate it! So far there have been no indications that holy paladins will have any changes is season 4 other than the tier set. Good luck out there!
This is a banger.... and I know bangers!
Hahaha I’ll trust you on that assessment! Appreciate the positive feedback :)
LOL
This was helpful ty, very good and easy to understand 👍
I’m glad it was helpful! :)
Just started re-learning holy after not touching it since BFA. This cleared up pretty much all my confusion. Good stuff.
Woooow that's quite some time your guy/gal was on vacation there haha. What made you want to come back to the toon?
I am glad the video was helpful, always fun to hear that feedback! Good luck out there and let me know if you have any questions.
@@ValiathGaming Pally is my oldest toon, made her back when WoW first launched, so some sentimental value there. But my guilds hpally main is really good and I was inspired to dust mine off, and for some reason, holy has just been clicking with me really well. Relearning nearly from scratch was challenging, but your vid made things digestible and broke everything down so well that even my enhancement main ass could understand :)
Worth pointing out that you should ALWAYS run devo aura as hpal, even if there's another paladin in group providing it. This so you get the extra damage reduction from aura mastery.
You are 100% correct!
Thanks for the in-depth guides! Really helping me out there!
Great! I am glad it’s helpful :)
Ready to heal better thanks to your vid! 😅
Hells yeah!
Great video going to give it a go
Thank you, appreciate that. Make sure you hop on discord as well if you have further questions :)
Excellent video as always! I appreciate the hard work you do for the holy paladins community.
Btw I’m curious what your thoughts are about the season 2 tier sets returning for season 4? Is it what you wanted, do you think it’ll make hpala meta again?
Thank you! Appreciate that :)
I actually was hoping for season 3 tier to remain. It is so good from both a healing and DPS standpoint. I think a lot of paladins believe that the tier set is what made us so good in season 2 when in actuality it was Blizzards tuning of our abilities and the introduction of the exodia comp.
The tier was good don't get me wrong, but it was not the source of our power that rocketed us to the top in season 2. For us to get back to S-Tier and possible meta, Blizzard will have to do a lot of buffing of our abilities again, which unfortunately i don't see happening :(
Great insight! I started playing during S3 of DF so I have no experience outside of that. From what I understand, many specs went through that same situation. People conflated power of spec and tier sets and didn’t look at tuning at the time where the class was strong.
Looking over hpala discussions, many say that they miss having prism feel significant or a holy shock hit hard for damage/healing.
I also understand the point that the glimmer gameplay isn’t very intuitive. It’s hard to see its effect in the moment. I personally like the current too.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see when it comes out. I pray it doesn’t make hpala D tier lol.
My boyfriend and I love watching your videos on our date nights.
Haha i think that is great date night material!
sad…
Probably DPS BF and doesn’t even know what’s going on. 😂
Gangster.
@@deaczorz judgey c&nt = sad.
I fell sleep watchjng this video and at some point I thought I was watching some discovery channel lmao
Haha, don’t know if I should say thank you or accept that I am boring lol
THE GOAT
Haha hardly but I appreciate the sentiment :)
Would love to know what the cursor and the party member menu addons you got on, looks really easy to follow and cast on party members
Hello!! I have a great list of addons and weakauras in another video :) check it out and look at the links in the description!
Must Have Healer Addons & Weakauras | 10.2.5 Dragonflight Season 3
ua-cam.com/video/RUa60Rn9_mo/v-deo.html
@@ValiathGamingawesome thank you for taking the time to direct me in the right direction, wish you all the success man great guide and really easy to follow thanks!
Great video as always.
Do you mind sharing your ui set up, btw??
Hello, and thank you! You can find most of the addons and weakauras i use in my Healer Addon Video (ua-cam.com/video/RUa60Rn9_mo/v-deo.html).
My VuhDu profile you can find here wago.io/sdJoLbKDl
And my ElvUI you can find here wago.io/aLiWtJol6
But, if you want to get a really nice ElvUI setup, check out my friend Jiberish's channel. He makes some of the best ElvUI profiles for healers out there. www.youtube.com/@jiberishui
Great video! I dont see the link to the Blessing of Dawn weakaura in the description. Did I miss it?
Thank you! I just popped it in the description :)
Hey, thanks for the awesome guide. I wonder if you can link the build in here as weell :)
My bad! Forgot to include it in the description. It is there now :)
@@ValiathGaming thank you!😊
Thanks, would yo use this build to raid as well ? and do you feel that if we run this in raids, or even mythics should we be changing our beacons consistently ? Thanks and great video. HP was in tuff place and healing has been hard for me into the 19 mythic... this could help.. thanks.. any changes for raid to the tree would you use ? Or this build will pump on both > ? Thanks Holyhero
Hello, thank you for those kind words :)
I would not run this same build for raid as the focus for a holy paladin is vastly different. I made a raid healing guide a while back that is super helpful, here is the link :) ua-cam.com/video/78SD68DkuLA/v-deo.html
Good luck out there!
Great video mate. Cant find the link for your Weak Aura
Thanks for letting me know, forgot to paste it. It is there now :)
@@ValiathGaming legend. Quality content man. You'll go far. Keep grinding.
@@BTOURN thanks! Really appreciate the kind words :)
Amazing guide! really helped me with my paladin! what do you use for chromie's bar? when I do fall I keep clicking on her but your name plate will make that boss fight much easier so I can mouse over her health!
Hello! Apprecaite the positive feedback :)
What i do is as soon as i enter the boss room, i target Chromie and the right click the portrait and select "Set Focus". This leaves a permanent unit frame specifically for her wherever you designated your "Focus Frame" to be. Makes it super easy to select her or to mouseover.
thank you so much!!!@@ValiathGaming
I cant find a single guide for totally new Holy pals for war within ..... Post changes. Ive never ever played the spec and am finding it very hard to grasp as Im coming into it when all anyone is talking about is the changes...
Man i love everything about holy pally except that shield spender 😢
That’s great to hear! What is it about shield of the righteous that you don’t like?
@@ValiathGaming ah thanks. after playing more holy paly i realized its not as bad as i thought! on the other hand though, the holy power spenders that heal, word of glory and the aoe both are kind of a letdown
Is there an avenging crusader build that is viable? Maybe stacking haste above the soft cap to pump awakening stacks faster
Hello! I have seen some people play with that choice node successfully for sure. For me personally, I like having wings as a CD I can use when I myself decide it is needed, but also the dps boost it provides is quite nice. Not to mention the 20% CD reduction on holy shock marries quite well into our current play style with our tier.
The main problem with AC is that it got nerfed to the ground in 10.1.5 and just doesn’t have the throughput that AW has. It’s fun to play with for sure, but numerically it will probably fall being a bit.
Neither judgement or crusader strike will hit hard enough to provide more healing or damage than holy shock will, and you also lose the ability to use hammer of wrath during wings which can do a lot of dps but also healing if talented into veneration.
I say try it out and let me know how it goes! In the end if you find yourself playing better with it, then that’s what you should run. Be very curious if your wings uptime is higher than the AW build
@@ValiathGaming oh wow I didn’t even know avenging crusader couldn’t use hammer of wrath that’s super lame. I feel like blizzard should just remove AC because they never tune it to be viable! Except apparently last season when I wasn’t playing.
@@attinger117 yeah so wings triggered by awakening still allows you to use hammer of wrath but AC does not.
Is Blessed Focus viable?
Is there a build for this single glimmer talent?
Hello! Not really as it reduces the number of glimmers you can put out to 1, meaning it basically cripples the entire spec to the point of it being unplayable.
Just fyi. Reverbs doesnt heal ur whole party. It only heals the ally that glimmer is on
Correct, in general you wouldn’t use daybreak or refreshing reverbs unless you need the healing and most likely everyone in your party has glimmers then. I should have been clearers about that, thank you.
@@ValiathGaming Was something changed since this video was posted? Reverb is only working on the person the reverb buff is on. It isnt healing the whole party, it isnt healing anyone else with glimmer
@@adrianmatthis8706 no it seems I did a bad job explaining the mechanic correctly in the video :( it does not provide aoe healing to the entire group, just the player with the glimmer
Is it wrong to not like Awakening? I hate waiting for it to get to 12 stacks and then i fuck it up by pressing judgement at a random trash mob.
Haha not at all! It is the best spec to play though in m+ and does require you to have some patience with judgement. If it’s not for you try out a different build! That is the beauty of this game, nobody can make you do or play anything you don’t want to :)
Does this guide work for s4
Hello! Yes is still covers some of season 4. Biggest difference is the change in tier set so those parts are obviously not relevant any longer. Our play style is practically the same but the divine toll and daybreak combo is not as fluid as in s3 because we lost the tier set making daybreak a 45 second CD.
Hello, what am I missing. Im practing on the dummies and the reverb isnt healing anyone other than the target. I thought maybe it was b/c im not in a party with them so I went to a follower dungeon and its still only healing 1 target (8:41)
Hello! Our tier set reverberates healing to the person with glimmers on them. If you holy shock the same person twice and it’s the only person with glimmers on them, only that person will see reverberation healing. Reverberation heals the target to which you applied the holy shock, and then the holy shock spreads healing to others with glimmers.
This is why you need to manage who you have your glimmers on so you know who to target with your holy shocks to trigger reverberates for extra healing.
@@ValiathGaming I guess im missunderstanding. Im just testing and im divine tolling so everyone has glimmer and then im reverbing it but its only on that 1 person, trying to understand b/c my healing has felt weak
@@adrianmatthis8706 no you are correct, reverb applies to the person you are targeting with holy shock not the others with glimmers. I made an incorrect comment in the video about this. What does aoe healing is the holy shock healing to others with glimmers, not the reverb healing.
@@ValiathGaming Ok thank you. The video has still been helpful. I didnt know I needed the tyr combo back
Appreciate that, lesson learned is not to do video editing at 3am.
There you go again, trying to get that holy light nerfed from healing chromie lol.
Hahaha, at this point it’s the only thing we have!
@@ValiathGaming true story. Our dps buff were cool, but throughout buff would be epic.
Hear hear! I am working on a Holy Paladin DPS guide as we speak. It is depress mode considering where we were in season 2 and considering what other healers can push out with basically no effort. @@SpudZookaL2G
One of the most heavily weak aura dependant classes :/
Yeah there are quite a few that you may want to run to be fully informed. Completely playable without them too but why make life harder you know lol
Seems like a super over bloated spec.
Actually, it’s the opposite. All of these talents and what they provided do NOT add any more buttons to activate. It is actually one of the only specs that is void of any added bloat whatsoever.