Love the biild, almost exactly what i was running on my sorc, except with Gaze of Sithis instead of Chudan/Death Dealer...but DDF/Chudan us definitely a better option. One nitpick and something ive been suggesting to every PvP content creator....please for goodness start showing your stats under battle spirit. I understand the numbers are cut in half and it doesnt look as impressive, but its giving a more faithful representation of what the build is capable of. I constantly see people commenting on videos "why isnt this stat like this" "why arent my stats matching the video"...lol.....just a simple suggestion....great build 😂
Thanks man! This is a really solid setup and has just a plethora of stats letting you do what you like on it. I get what you mean about the shield - in PvP you just half the value which I do mention. I often show it in PvE land as such because it is easier to record there plus it's what people usually see on their skills when building it.
Literally wanted to say that same thing. I suppose the issue is, if your faction has all the scrolls and keeps, it will inflate. Unsure how things work in IC
Dan, I love your videos, have watched them for a long time. I’ve also change Mag & Health point by point before. The optimal health vs mag changes from inside Cyrodiil to outside. It’s not quiet as simple as shield are cut in half, the health/mag scaling is different. Do that same inside Cyrodiil and you’ll get different numbers.
Battle spirit doesn't give stats anymore and hasn't for a long time. It does reduce healing and shield size however - when you go in there your raw stats don't change unless scroll buffs.
@@Unified-Gaming bro im running with almost 70k magicka and i dont hit the 72% of my max hp on shieldsize in cyrodiil... and its 16.8k big before ddf. u dont have to put in these points into hp. in cyro ull just have less shieldsize and less dmg. just check ur shieldsize in cyroo now, then use atro munuds und put some points into mag and test it again in cyro. u wont reach the cap unless u run some 20k hp build or whatever.
We use it for the reduce damage passive only - most pvp builds do this. You could use mistform instead of streak but I wouldn't personally. Beyond that, there isn't any good ones in there beyond the spamable but that forces you into melee range. The drain is very niche on specific setups.
Save your armory slot with no attributes set so you can just reload it when you want to adjust them for testing like this. Also inner light gives you 7% max mag and 2% mag recovery (mages guild magika controller passive)if you are rank 9 or 10 in mage's guild (less in lower ranks from passive). Slotting meteor on front bar will give you another 2% max mag and mag recovery as well
Imo I run crafty wretched or crafty anchient grace with chudan and deathdeeler. I'd dump all my points into mag run sugar skulls run sharpened lighting staff with ele sup on back bar front bar ulti use dawny back bar overload or Ice comet.
The setups you list are covered beyond ancient grace as it isn't worth stacking mag that high imo. Sharpened is nice but if you use a charged absorb stam glyph you get minor breach so 3k pen there too PLUS the bonus status damage.
Love the build try’d it out and i havent came off it since 😂 only problem is im having trouble acquiring the mythic youve got in this build is there any other mythic you would suggest running or does it have to be that pacific 1 ?
Built this out last night. Only difference is I’m using sea serpent coil mythic and my gear is purple. Definitely great so far! I’ve been pvping with my vamp arcanist(love it too) but man the teleporting sorcs on the AD grey host team gave me nightmares last night so I had to find a build hahaha. What is this dark sorcery?!? 😅
Hahaha yeah it is nutty man! If you can get death dealers it is even better than coil to be honest as it buffs your shields, health and damage. The stamina also can be turned into magicka helping sustain.
The shield is exactly: 12766 with a heal of 8876 in Cyrodiil with no scroll buffs. There is a link to my community post which also shows this too in a screen shot from in game. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxCoVZwrMUyOWOvk-XdwjmQuJfVeqIhVbD
I have tried that and found if you are really being preasured that HoT is really nice. The damage is fine - I'm critting 11k frags on people so that with an overload and crushing shock is doing 17--22k instant burst. P.s. Good to see you man!
I agree that’s how I run it I’d rarther use the stam for conversion, definitely helps when you realy pressured to have vigor but most of the time you can streak away from pressure and reset. Can’t have a mag sorc without curse that should be illegal haha
@@GoER9634 I agree - vigor is good skill to swap for curse but sometimes you need that heal. I would prob drop inner light - that's what I've dropped and not had any real issue loosing it in testing
I made this built on ps5 I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but this built tickles people don’t do much damage. Can you make a pvp video with this built plz. I invested a lot to get this built going and I feel like I’m lost with it
There's gameplay on the channel. You can use a absorb stam glyph to get minor breach always on front bar and susceptibility or elemental drain for major breach. That's 9k instantly. Can swap vigor for curse if need more damage.
Thanks man! This is a solid setup for sure and with so much raw stats you can really mix/match your playstyle and skills. Feels like you have emp buffs on lol
You're best using gaze of sithis mythic, 1x domihaus/swarm mother, heartland conquerer (sharpened front bar and defending back bar), crafty alfique x5 Or go max magicka and use ancient grace x3 + crafty x5 + 1 domihause + 1 swarm mother/gaze of sithis + 2 trainee/willpower
Crushing shock and crushing weapon isn't it Imo. The other morph elemental weapon takes the win. Charged got nerfed and the status chance is pretty low. Ele weapon allows you to have a guaranteed status proc every single cast whilst still running sharpened and it also procs overcharge as its magic damage. cast ele sus on a dummy then proceed to test charged crushing and sharpened ele weapon and you'll see what i mean. Also in the video you didn't mention that the heavy weapons expert CP not only buffs your light attacks but also your overload. its a huge increase in burst, don't take it off. ele weapon also infuses light attack so that cp alone is 20% to your light attack, spammable and overload at once. Also I advise testing the build without vigor, thats where the haunting curse goes ;) .(you already have minor resolve from bound armor) The shields, dark convert and crit surge alone are enough this patch imo, its wild. Definitely the Malcom build on this one
Elemental susceptibility provides the status effects every 7.5s and they last 3s. This does help but the reason I use charged is that when the status procs it does damage so you end up getting 2-3 extra sources of damage doing 500-800 on a target adding an extra 1-2k on your spamable. That's why I use it. I did test elemental weapon and found it was a good skill but the animation is awkward. The status proc is nice for sure if you spam it and can help alot, allowing sharpened as a trait. The overload is buffed by the cp which I assumed people would note but I could have explained that better so good point. The elemetal weapon doesn't get buffed by the light attack cp though but only the direct damage as it is a separate source of damage. I have found shields + dark converge work well but personally I prefer vigor for that more passive heal - I think it is personal preference. I found dropping inner light works well for curse space but you lose some crit chance and mag. I think with the sets and so on, they're spot on and the skill usage will vary somewhat from player to player and content i.e. battlegrounds you may use the execute to steal kills.
@@Unified-Gaming A great thing to note about elemental susceptibility is that the burning status procs crit surge while your on the defensive kitting away. Also, you're using ele drain on the video? I'm guessing that was an error ?
you're right about ele weapon, was tired af while testing, must have cast crit surge or removed deadly aim or something on the first test. Ele wep still superior imo ;P
I used drain for the more constant mag sustain as we get the status procs easily with our charged staff. The healing you get from the susceptibility procs are not consistent at all and hardly noticeable at best.
@@Unified-Gaming Its noticeable when crit surge is the only HOT under the shield. it also procs minor brittle when cast from an ice staff ;). As you're running vigor though i defs see your point :) Many ways to run mag sorc this patch, exciting considering they were so pigon holed for so long.
Completely false information. In terms of how much HP is needed for the sheild. You need to be inside PvP to even begin testing it. I've done the testing myself. it's around 24k/25k HP, and the rest into magicka. Especially in update 41 when you can have stupid amounts of max mag. 72% of 25k is 18000. You can achieve that in update 41 in PvP. Just a heads up to the creator and anyone wanting true information.
The point which I didn't clearly make is that this is the sweet spot for newer players. If you want to push shields then go for max magicka but you leave yourself more vulnerable to being ganked as you have less health for them to work through unless you maintain your shields well. Good spot and I did note this in the description and my discord but not on the video itself.
@@Unified-Gaming streak dont shield you vs bash, and lots of ppl use CS. Its a personal choise ofc. I wont be able to sustain pressure with such build. Happy it works for you. Thanks for the video
@runkorko no worries and yeah Crushing can be annoying but due to ZOS logic, once interrupted you can recast without being interrupted. Really hate that bug when fighting stam sorcs.
@@Unified-Gaming true but it also stun for 3 and set offbalance for 7. I do use dark deal on my stam sorc, but there i play with the ball of lightning, so its "safer"
Lmao this is the SAME build that every has already been rocking for months now. And not running Curse is a sin to all Sorcs that have ever played the class
@duwapkaine9663 the sets and there are some things tweaked since. Lover mundus, charged absorb stam (procs minor breach 100% of the time), plus major breach so with these you have around 14-15k pej
Man, you need to add timestamps. I wanna see the 2 bars and the gear sets, that's it, all the rest is fluff and I need to skip through 20 minutes missing stuff.
I've not had issues with the build myself and if you do then it may reflect yourself. Look at the amount of damage - our tool tips are insane, we have pressure from status effect changes and our shields are nuts! Running max magicka doesn't increase your shield size without a good hp pool so do not neglect that.
@@Unified-Gaming Watch other youtube channels of any genre, your audio overall is way too low, you think you are being polite but you are just not allowing important information to be received correctly, you say to use subs, you should know how subs are sometimes shown wrongly as google puts subs based on how it interprets your voice, get a better mic is all what I'm saying
@espeo2345 I've never had this comment in 3 years but I take your point. I've double checked settings last night and seemed okay on stream - if you could check the stream from last night to see if that's better that'd be useful.
@@Unified-Gaming I'll have to check i view videos after you upload them, i watch alot of different genre of UA-cam, it might be the simple case of mic being far or it being too good so it cancel bg noise effectively at expense of losing your own voice loudness and quality
Love the biild, almost exactly what i was running on my sorc, except with Gaze of Sithis instead of Chudan/Death Dealer...but DDF/Chudan us definitely a better option.
One nitpick and something ive been suggesting to every PvP content creator....please for goodness start showing your stats under battle spirit. I understand the numbers are cut in half and it doesnt look as impressive, but its giving a more faithful representation of what the build is capable of. I constantly see people commenting on videos "why isnt this stat like this" "why arent my stats matching the video"...lol.....just a simple suggestion....great build 😂
Thanks man! This is a really solid setup and has just a plethora of stats letting you do what you like on it.
I get what you mean about the shield - in PvP you just half the value which I do mention. I often show it in PvE land as such because it is easier to record there plus it's what people usually see on their skills when building it.
That's a really good suggestion Irish Sage.
@@Unified-Gaming Just showcase it at alliance home base. Why that's not as easy as a random PVE overland location is beyond me.
@@luchi850 This was in a house with access to mundus stones etc. That's why. It isn't that hard for people to look at 25k and go half is 12.5k
Literally wanted to say that same thing. I suppose the issue is, if your faction has all the scrolls and keeps, it will inflate. Unsure how things work in IC
Dan, I love your videos, have watched them for a long time. I’ve also change Mag & Health point by point before. The optimal health vs mag changes from inside Cyrodiil to outside. It’s not quiet as simple as shield are cut in half, the health/mag scaling is different. Do that same inside Cyrodiil and you’ll get different numbers.
Battle spirit doesn't give stats anymore and hasn't for a long time. It does reduce healing and shield size however - when you go in there your raw stats don't change unless scroll buffs.
@@Unified-Gaming bro im running with almost 70k magicka and i dont hit the 72% of my max hp on shieldsize in cyrodiil... and its 16.8k big before ddf. u dont have to put in these points into hp. in cyro ull just have less shieldsize and less dmg. just check ur shieldsize in cyroo now, then use atro munuds und put some points into mag and test it again in cyro. u wont reach the cap unless u run some 20k hp build or whatever.
oh w8, Mage mundus* ups
@@theemryexperience bro you're a genius
Just put this together on Xbox, works great!!! Can't wait for the patch to see the FULL effect. Awesome vid, solid build....2 for 2
😎👍
That's awesome and next patch for you it will go from good to godly! Let me know how you do with it.
Can u incorporate any more vampire skills, or is the one passive recude damage at low health, the only useful skill?
We use it for the reduce damage passive only - most pvp builds do this. You could use mistform instead of streak but I wouldn't personally. Beyond that, there isn't any good ones in there beyond the spamable but that forces you into melee range. The drain is very niche on specific setups.
Save your armory slot with no attributes set so you can just reload it when you want to adjust them for testing like this. Also inner light gives you 7% max mag and 2% mag recovery (mages guild magika controller passive)if you are rank 9 or 10 in mage's guild (less in lower ranks from passive). Slotting meteor on front bar will give you another 2% max mag and mag recovery as well
I do that but put all passives in and have a load out saved. Makes for quick changes of builds.
Imo I run crafty wretched or crafty anchient grace with chudan and deathdeeler. I'd dump all my points into mag run sugar skulls run sharpened lighting staff with ele sup on back bar front bar ulti use dawny back bar overload or Ice comet.
The setups you list are covered beyond ancient grace as it isn't worth stacking mag that high imo. Sharpened is nice but if you use a charged absorb stam glyph you get minor breach so 3k pen there too PLUS the bonus status damage.
I didn't catch the Enchantment on the Back bar Ice Staff of Wretched Vitality? Saw Absorb Magicka on the front bar.
Flex spot - I would use spell damage or poisons to be honest.
Love the build try’d it out and i havent came off it since 😂 only problem is im having trouble acquiring the mythic youve got in this build is there any other mythic you would suggest running or does it have to be that pacific 1 ?
@Gsimi0161 this is the best mythic. Markyn is a good alternative.
What do you think of the new Mythic, the Last Aylied King? And would you use it in your new builds?
It's currently bugged.
Is the overload glitch fixed. With the lighting animation it's annoying and have to re logg to get rid of it
I haven't had that in awhile so I think so.
Built this out last night. Only difference is I’m using sea serpent coil mythic and my gear is purple. Definitely great so far!
I’ve been pvping with my vamp arcanist(love it too) but man the teleporting sorcs on the AD grey host team gave me nightmares last night so I had to find a build hahaha. What is this dark sorcery?!? 😅
Hahaha yeah it is nutty man! If you can get death dealers it is even better than coil to be honest as it buffs your shields, health and damage. The stamina also can be turned into magicka helping sustain.
@@Unified-Gaming nice I’ll have to try that mythic out once I get all of the leads! It’s a grind haha.
@@christ0ph3rson70 you're telling me!
GREAT VIDEO BROTHER
What rotations would you recommend on this build
Defensive focus on streak shield roll dodge shield
Offensive
Buff up then curse, crushing shock until frag ready then streak frag proc
Did you not test the shield in PvP zone? Shields are halved in PvP so the math will be different.
The shield is exactly: 12766 with a heal of 8876 in Cyrodiil with no scroll buffs. There is a link to my community post which also shows this too in a screen shot from in game.
ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxCoVZwrMUyOWOvk-XdwjmQuJfVeqIhVbD
Is the build editor on UESP scaling correctly? I think I might need more Mag (39k vs 29k health) - getting a 4k+ shield (BS Active) :/
Build editor doesn't scale properly. I had like a 4k tool tip on it but in game it was 12k in cyrodiil.
@@Unified-Gaming that's a relief! Thanks
Sup bud. Eth0s here. Tbh with the heal from hardened ward and the perks of aegis you don't need vigor. Try dropping it for curse. ✌️👊
I have tried that and found if you are really being preasured that HoT is really nice. The damage is fine - I'm critting 11k frags on people so that with an overload and crushing shock is doing 17--22k instant burst.
P.s. Good to see you man!
I agree that’s how I run it I’d rarther use the stam for conversion, definitely helps when you realy pressured to have vigor but most of the time you can streak away from pressure and reset. Can’t have a mag sorc without curse that should be illegal haha
@@GoER9634 I agree - vigor is good skill to swap for curse but sometimes you need that heal. I would prob drop inner light - that's what I've dropped and not had any real issue loosing it in testing
We need a 6th skill slot haha@@Unified-Gaming
@GoER9634 a passive skill slot?
Is this 5 craft, 5 wretched, 2 chudan, 1 curiuss trainee and 1 death dealer? or only 3 wretched?
Wretched weapon back bar so you get 2 pieces there + 3 body = 5. This means you can turn on wretched back bar then swap to front and buff still active
Does the attributes matter if high elf or breton? Or are they attributes Breton specific?
Works on either just change glyph
I dont see an enchant on the Ice Staff, did you forget or just dont need one?
Absorb mag OR escapist poisons
I made this built on ps5 I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong but this built tickles people don’t do much damage. Can you make a pvp video with this built plz. I invested a lot to get this built going and I feel like I’m lost with it
There's gameplay on the channel. You can use a absorb stam glyph to get minor breach always on front bar and susceptibility or elemental drain for major breach. That's 9k instantly. Can swap vigor for curse if need more damage.
Another quality build for me to try out.
Thanks man! This is a solid setup for sure and with so much raw stats you can really mix/match your playstyle and skills. Feels like you have emp buffs on lol
Does weapons expert work on the power overload Ult because it’s light and heavies?
Yup
What would u use in non proc cyro
You're best using gaze of sithis mythic, 1x domihaus/swarm mother, heartland conquerer (sharpened front bar and defending back bar), crafty alfique x5
Or go max magicka and use ancient grace x3 + crafty x5 + 1 domihause + 1 swarm mother/gaze of sithis + 2 trainee/willpower
Thank gou so much
I’m a khajit. Imma rock people
It will still be a solid setup :)
@@Unified-Gaming going for it
This is a old Meta build But I guess for people who don't normally main. Sorc its new
With the changes, your skills now boost things a lot thus the update.
Crushing shock and crushing weapon isn't it Imo. The other morph elemental weapon takes the win. Charged got nerfed and the status chance is pretty low. Ele weapon allows you to have a guaranteed status proc every single cast whilst still running sharpened and it also procs overcharge as its magic damage. cast ele sus on a dummy then proceed to test charged crushing and sharpened ele weapon and you'll see what i mean. Also in the video you didn't mention that the heavy weapons expert CP not only buffs your light attacks but also your overload. its a huge increase in burst, don't take it off. ele weapon also infuses light attack so that cp alone is 20% to your light attack, spammable and overload at once. Also I advise testing the build without vigor, thats where the haunting curse goes ;) .(you already have minor resolve from bound armor) The shields, dark convert and crit surge alone are enough this patch imo, its wild. Definitely the Malcom build on this one
Elemental susceptibility provides the status effects every 7.5s and they last 3s. This does help but the reason I use charged is that when the status procs it does damage so you end up getting 2-3 extra sources of damage doing 500-800 on a target adding an extra 1-2k on your spamable. That's why I use it.
I did test elemental weapon and found it was a good skill but the animation is awkward. The status proc is nice for sure if you spam it and can help alot, allowing sharpened as a trait. The overload is buffed by the cp which I assumed people would note but I could have explained that better so good point. The elemetal weapon doesn't get buffed by the light attack cp though but only the direct damage as it is a separate source of damage. I have found shields + dark converge work well but personally I prefer vigor for that more passive heal - I think it is personal preference.
I found dropping inner light works well for curse space but you lose some crit chance and mag. I think with the sets and so on, they're spot on and the skill usage will vary somewhat from player to player and content i.e. battlegrounds you may use the execute to steal kills.
@@Unified-Gaming A great thing to note about elemental susceptibility is that the burning status procs crit surge while your on the defensive kitting away. Also, you're using ele drain on the video? I'm guessing that was an error ?
you're right about ele weapon, was tired af while testing, must have cast crit surge or removed deadly aim or something on the first test. Ele wep still superior imo ;P
I used drain for the more constant mag sustain as we get the status procs easily with our charged staff. The healing you get from the susceptibility procs are not consistent at all and hardly noticeable at best.
@@Unified-Gaming Its noticeable when crit surge is the only HOT under the shield. it also procs minor brittle when cast from an ice staff ;). As you're running vigor though i defs see your point :) Many ways to run mag sorc this patch, exciting considering they were so pigon holed for so long.
Completely false information. In terms of how much HP is needed for the sheild. You need to be inside PvP to even begin testing it. I've done the testing myself. it's around 24k/25k HP, and the rest into magicka. Especially in update 41 when you can have stupid amounts of max mag. 72% of 25k is 18000. You can achieve that in update 41 in PvP. Just a heads up to the creator and anyone wanting true information.
The point which I didn't clearly make is that this is the sweet spot for newer players. If you want to push shields then go for max magicka but you leave yourself more vulnerable to being ganked as you have less health for them to work through unless you maintain your shields well. Good spot and I did note this in the description and my discord but not on the video itself.
With this build in open world 1vX you will go out of mag AND stam for no time.
I've not had any issues as you streak and reset using dark conversion. With potions you're over 2k+ regens anyway - that is ample.
@@Unified-Gaming streak dont shield you vs bash, and lots of ppl use CS. Its a personal choise ofc. I wont be able to sustain pressure with such build. Happy it works for you. Thanks for the video
@runkorko no worries and yeah Crushing can be annoying but due to ZOS logic, once interrupted you can recast without being interrupted. Really hate that bug when fighting stam sorcs.
@@Unified-Gaming true but it also stun for 3 and set offbalance for 7. I do use dark deal on my stam sorc, but there i play with the ball of lightning, so its "safer"
@@Unified-Gaming and what about overload movement bug ? got it often ?
Lmao this is the SAME build that every has already been rocking for months now. And not running Curse is a sin to all Sorcs that have ever played the class
Curse can be slotted in as needed - I drop vigor for it or inner light personally.
Gg
Thanks Jack
I'll be real with you, this should've have taken 20 minutes, and if it did you should've added timestamps
You're welcome to add them into the comments and I'll add to the description 😀
Struggle to see how you’re killing anything without curse or an execute
I've not had issues and you can drop vigor for curse :)
vamp 3 need nurf
Nah. If it wasn’t for Undeath vampires wouldn’t be used by anyone. The skill line has been gutted over the years except for that sweet passive.
@@TatewakiGaming the vamp spamable is decent to be fair and so is mist form
Except the awkward stun, all other skills have their uses in pvp and pve.
No curse? Lol
I explain how you can add it if you wish
this build is hot dog water
A bit like this comment ??
Jokes aside, it is pretty much the meta spec
3k pen on your front bar how is that meta ?
@duwapkaine9663 the sets and there are some things tweaked since. Lover mundus, charged absorb stam (procs minor breach 100% of the time), plus major breach so with these you have around 14-15k pej
Man, you need to add timestamps. I wanna see the 2 bars and the gear sets, that's it, all the rest is fluff and I need to skip through 20 minutes missing stuff.
You're welcome to add them. You do Sets: timecode here.
@@Unified-Gaming not my job man. I just go to someone else video
@@Peppeblackmetal no worries 👍
What a clown
Весьма посредственный билд на самом деле. Через максимальную магию в разы сильнее и танкованнее выходит.
I've not had issues with the build myself and if you do then it may reflect yourself. Look at the amount of damage - our tool tips are insane, we have pressure from status effect changes and our shields are nuts! Running max magicka doesn't increase your shield size without a good hp pool so do not neglect that.
Word of advice, never trust a build someone put together on PTS in a video without actual Live server gameplay.
Gameplay on channel already
Why the salty comment? Especially weird since with the smallest amount of research you can see there's a gameplay video.
talk loudly, you are talking silently so we don't understand the build
I've not had this issue from anyone else. Maybe use subtitles or turn the volume up? Hope it helps.
@@Unified-Gaming What a respectful reply Dan
@@Unified-Gaming Watch other youtube channels of any genre, your audio overall is way too low, you think you are being polite but you are just not allowing important information to be received correctly, you say to use subs, you should know how subs are sometimes shown wrongly as google puts subs based on how it interprets your voice, get a better mic is all what I'm saying
@espeo2345 I've never had this comment in 3 years but I take your point. I've double checked settings last night and seemed okay on stream - if you could check the stream from last night to see if that's better that'd be useful.
@@Unified-Gaming I'll have to check i view videos after you upload them, i watch alot of different genre of UA-cam, it might be the simple case of mic being far or it being too good so it cancel bg noise effectively at expense of losing your own voice loudness and quality