"Treatment is not to get rid of the thoughts. TREATMENT IS TO EMPHASIZE THE IRRELEVANCE OF THE THOUGHTS." Never thought after 3 years of finding out I have OCD I'd still learn more about it. OMG I ended up laughing with the anecdote of the dog at the end LOL!
The problem with" irrelevance" is that OCD fears are--or at least can be--based on very real fears: public doorknobs are filthy with germs , people do leave the gas burner on and walk away (I've done it myself), people leaves their homes without locking the door (again, I've done this). So the problem is not the fear but the compulsive response to the fear.
I agree with you. But from personal experience, I often feel that the OCD fundamentally taints how I feel and how I process the fear. Once the OCD goes, the same reality exists but I feel completely different about it. So in this sense, I believe it is correct to treat it as irrelevant. OCD obsessions are always bullshit in my opinion with the benefit of hindsight
@@GavDuggan1983 I think this is a very important consideration. I don't think that "irrelevance" is the correct term (st least not for me) because, as I said, the fears (germs on a doorknob, leaving the stove on, etc.) are quite legitimate. The problem is with the amygdala which keeps sending thee same danger signal over and over--that is, the fears aren't the problem--the malfunctioning amygdala is. Calling the fears "irrelevant" is just another case of trying to use logic to deal with OCD and that's not going to happen. OCD is an emotional disorder and must be treated accordingly.
Did he say it tends to spike between age 12 and 45 ? Does it go down then after 45 ? Haha mine has been spiking since i was 39 now 42, looking for some reassurance lol
I just wonder, they use the word "thoughs" a lot, but like, I would be okay hahing this thoughs and images all day long, if I didnt felt like Im actually liking them, that's what makes the issue, i would be just fine with naked men on my head all day long, as long as I dont feel nothing
@@deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. was just a ruminating compulsions, I @deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. Reminding my past crushes was just a ruminating compulsions, I realize it nowrealize it now but it felt so good to looking at the past lived with such confidence self
@@deadbeatjack2307 @deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. was just a ruminating compulsions, i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. Reminding my past crushes was just a ruminating compulsions, I realize it nowrealize it now but it felt so good to looking at the past lived with such confidence self
Dr Steven Phillipson and Chrissie Hodges are amazing!
I agree. Also am I the only one with a crush on Chrissie?
@@GavDuggan1983 She is definitely a wife material. :) But 2 person with OCD is not the best match believe me.
The dynamic duo!!! Best description of how the ocd brain works and then chrissie talking about triggers and recovery 👏👏👏
Amazing information. I swear his book about this topic saved my life.
"Treatment is not to get rid of the thoughts. TREATMENT IS TO EMPHASIZE THE IRRELEVANCE OF THE THOUGHTS."
Never thought after 3 years of finding out I have OCD I'd still learn more about it.
OMG I ended up laughing with the anecdote of the dog at the end LOL!
That was a really nice colab to listen to, thank you both.
The problem with" irrelevance" is that OCD fears are--or at least can be--based on very real fears: public doorknobs are filthy with germs , people do leave the gas burner on and walk away (I've done it myself), people leaves their homes without locking the door (again, I've done this). So the problem is not the fear but the compulsive response to the fear.
I agree with you. But from personal experience, I often feel that the OCD fundamentally taints how I feel and how I process the fear. Once the OCD goes, the same reality exists but I feel completely different about it. So in this sense, I believe it is correct to treat it as irrelevant. OCD obsessions are always bullshit in my opinion with the benefit of hindsight
@@GavDuggan1983 I think this is a very important consideration. I don't think that "irrelevance" is the correct term (st least not for me) because, as I said, the fears (germs on a doorknob, leaving the stove on, etc.) are quite legitimate. The problem is with the amygdala which keeps sending thee same danger signal over and over--that is, the fears aren't the problem--the malfunctioning amygdala is. Calling the fears "irrelevant" is just another case of trying to use logic to deal with OCD and that's not going to happen. OCD is an emotional disorder and must be treated accordingly.
19.26 says it all really
I wish I would have known about this I would have attended
Did he say it tends to spike between age 12 and 45 ? Does it go down then after 45 ? Haha mine has been spiking since i was 39 now 42, looking for some reassurance lol
But why groinal responses happen, is that because of anxiety or??
It happens because you keep thinking about it. The act alone of thinking about it triggers those systems in your body.
@@aka9604Can the same be said about false atraction? Which at this point just feel like atraction
I just wonder, they use the word "thoughs" a lot, but like, I would be okay hahing this thoughs and images all day long, if I didnt felt like Im actually liking them, that's what makes the issue, i would be just fine with naked men on my head all day long, as long as I dont feel nothing
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44:34 to 44:40. What did Chrissie say? I dont understand what she said in that time
She was talking about mentally reviewing past crushes as a compulsion
@@deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. was just a ruminating compulsions, I @deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. Reminding my past crushes was just a ruminating compulsions, I realize it nowrealize it now but it felt so good to looking at the past lived with such confidence self
@@deadbeatjack2307 @deadbeatjack2307 i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. was just a ruminating compulsions, i did that too from the beginning when HOCD was starting. Just to prove to HOCD was wrong about me and that I've always been boy-crazy, even if I never dated and I'm being virgin, but I always masturbated while having in front of me pictures of the men I like and have interest. Reminding my past crushes was just a ruminating compulsions, I realize it nowrealize it now but it felt so good to looking at the past lived with such confidence self