It has come to my attention that ultra wide doesn’t work how it did back in the day. You can see more screen while using it. However it was worth it for all of the mad ultra wide users in comments, lets go.
Yeah, FOV is fixed vertically, not horizontally like in original Vanilla and TBC. If you want to minmax this, you can use the Leatrix Plus addon to add some black bars to the bottom and top of your screen (just put UI elements like chat, action bars or whatever in that space) and it actually lowers the vertical resolution even more, giving you even more of an advantage in peripheral vision. You basically get the same center of the screen as that 24" monitor you're talking about, but with even more extra information than an ultrawide screen. I mean... If you're into that kinda thing. :D
Lol. Well you are also a little biased in that you play WoW super competitively. Ultrawide makes more sense for folks who play single player/immersive games more regularly and dabble in WoW. Sort of how 4k makes sense if you do most of your media consumption (movies/etc.) on your computer screen too rather than exclusively gaming. Do you have any more examples for non-raid lead "good" uis? Your comment about moving abilities further up makes a ton of sense - my ui is also dated (it was largely unchanged from back in WoD).
The warlocks UI looks like he woke up one morning, turned on wow and his addons just shifted to the left side of the screen and he was just like fk it and never fixed it
Agree with everything but the ultrawide. The aya woe's fov/res actually works is you just gain extra on the sides - so the only reason there's a disadvantage is because elements are further away. Move your UI elements in to the center in a 16x9 layout and boom: it's exactly the same yet there's just that slight chance for extra information on the side. Or more real estate to put more data bars. Try experimenting with different custom resolutions and you'll see the game FoV is bound by the lower dimension, not the higher dimension.
When you play at 21:9 wow does stretch the image, it's one of the things that is super cool about wow, the bigger your resolution the bigger your field of view is, so It's a plus to have bigger screens and resolutions in wow. VS for example in lol where I have to play windowed mode at 1920*1080 and only at like 70% of my screen because I have a 1440p 32 inch monitor and lol just stretches the image and makes everything super big if I play full screen at 1440p. I believe they do it because it would be an unfair advantage since I would be able to see 1/3 of the river when I am in middle lane if they scaled properly for 1440p. You can only imagine in 4k. And especially for wow you can put a bunch of non combat essential shit on the sides. I have 2 full chat windows on all the time along with details and vertical bars between them and still have a lot of free space. Bigger resolutions are super awesome for wow. Once I upgrade my gpu I will consider upscaling to 4k.
i have no idea why this was recommended to me. I can tell you I dug out a backup 15 inch 1024x768 monitor back during firelands when I was one of the better resto druids on my small pond poor at raiding server, because the smaller screen made it easier for me to see EVERYTHING. I can't imagine ultrawide.
Ultrawide is Masterrace. And FoV is expanded for 90% of modern games. So you have the option to see more and if you center your UI to the middle of the screen you simply have an advantage against anyone not using one.
You can't really argue that the ultrawide just looks better than the shitty normal aspect ratios where people have their ui taking up 35% of the entire screen.
Ultrawide implementation in WoW gives you more to see. The image is not stretched, so you see the same things as someone on normal 16:9 monitor BUT you can see more on the sides.
The advantage of ultrawide is you can store windiws you dont look at during combat maps and metera and stuff on the edges and it leaves more room in usable area.
i love my widescreen 21:9 monitor. the game looks so much better and stuff that is not important like map/questslog/chat is not in my view when i fight. And as someone in the comments wrote you have a wider fov. First it was a bit weird but you get used to it! if you have too many mini map buttons, download the addon minimap button bag! One clean button on the minimap which can be extended to see all buttons.
That is the of the beauty's of WoW I found. unless someone uses NO UI addons at all, everyones UI is just a touch different to each players preference.
He's judging why the font on bars in details is coloured while here I am, thinking that having a DPS counter during the fight is completely nonsensical and I just have it disabled... What a discrepancy.
I'm like that DH on the 3rd screen, I tend to look all around the screen for everything and it's a habit that i'm used to and doesn't really bother me now But then again, I'm what I call myself a hardcore casual so I play how it suits me :p
This is why I use a tartarus v2... best upgrade ever! Thumb stick for motion. No more wsad! And spell buttons for days! Then add in a razor naga and you will never go back to a keyboard ever again! I don’t even know how people use keyboards and play wow?!?!? Moving and trying to cast spells with your ring finger is not optimal! For me anyway.
just switched from a 34 UW up to the CX 48. I'm not about to go back, as the vertical graphic improvement is nice on boss fights (among other improvements), but the game itself really does look better on an UW. And the comment about being able to see the soak off to the right... a 16:9 player simply wouldn't see that at all :). Think of it this way, chats and other completely irrelevant UI elements can be pushed out of the way with zero downside to your 'standard' game field of vision.
i play ultra wide and do 30 keys... so i dont agree its "not pro". i played CS for 20 years. and has been in the top for many years. i played/play on 27+ monitors in CSGO but yes 24 before that.
I think UI is a lot like key binds. Everyone is different in some way. I think if you can be effective at your role and used to your UI, then there is no reason to change. If you are a world first raider then you might have to change it for WA reasons. Other than that I don’t see why you would change.
Or if it's REALLY bad. For example, on my first kill of Normal Sire, I had multiple addons and WA telling me the same things overlapped with each other, and my button sizes were totally disproportionate. It has so much information, all the information it does have is practically unaccessible.
@@marcdragon2936 yeah the information has to make sense to the person and has to be readable. Sometimes though, what works for one doesn’t work for another. That’s kind of what is so nice about UIs. You can alter your UI so you can understand it and make it easily understandable to you. Max is kind of looking at these as the 21st man since that is his role so his type of UI has to work for him as well as the one he screen sharing with. So it is typically something that is not going to happen in normal or heroic clears and most of the time not even in mythic. I mean I haven’t used a altered UI in years besides standard elvui and dbm. I do not do mythic and don’t intend on doing that content so I just don’t believe it is actually necessary. Does it make it easier? Absolutely. Is it required? Absolutely not.
@@al44tec Agreed, for sure! I like having a UI I setup and work on, personally; it's a lot easier to watch videos of kills when I can see what's going on. But I'm also not trying to push the hardest content in the game - I mean, there's a reason I mentioned Normal Sire; I never did Heroic Sire, though a few friends did invite me to a bit of Mythic near the end of the tier. Regardless, I think the UI has to be readable for the person - if the person can't gather the information they need because the information is so bloated, there's no reason to have it.
Lol bro playing on ultra wide is fine, like how close are you sitting at your screen to feel the need to turn your entire fuckin head. You can see more shit and it doesn't feel as cramped, its dope.
I like how people are shiting and saying how UI's should be , and there are people playing their game with default UI even and beating mythic end bosses and not giving a fuck :P
for real, Max, please keep making videos likes this... I was so fucking excited after working like 12 hours to see that you had a new video, and when i found out it was a meme video, i lost my shit!!!
I love how he trashed most of the viewer ui´s and then ended up with what could only be described as the worst ui ever shown in public and it´s from a world first raider.
I’m pretty sure the ultra wides show a wider fov, so it’s not just stretching from 16:9. Meaning you’ll see things with the ultra wide that you just wouldn’t see with the standard 16:9.
I took 21:9 from a friend but only 25" and it's not stretched. With only 25" u don't need to tilt your head around to see if you are like 40cm+ away from screen.
Correct. You not only have more screen real-estate but it lets you do stuff like putting chat way off to the side because its much less important during combat or hiding stuff out to the side when streaming in 16:9.
I was hoping someone pointed this out. Yeah you have to turn your eyes/head more to see that soak on the far right, but you literally can't even see it on a normal screen unless your turn your character sooo
The example you gave about the ultrawide user having to move their head to see something at the edge of the screen...they wouldnt see that thing on screen at all if they had a 16x9 monitor. I totally agree that UI elements need to be moved to the center so you can see them without needing to move your eyes off your character - but the wider your aspect ratio the more game is visible at all.
The ultrawide head turning only occurs if you sit like 6 inches from your monitor. I play on a 49 inch suw I sit about 2 to 3 feet back with a keyboard tray and you can see the entire fov of the monitor. Depends on setup. The head turning does not occur. Also the suw shows a wider fov. It shows a lot more of the boss room.
People that have never played wow on an Ultra Wide are under the impression that the game is somehow stretched. The screen isn't stretched, you are actually given several inches of EXTRA vision. The few inches on either side are actually in addition to the normal FoV you get on a regular 16:9 screen. The ultra wide does nothing but improve your overall awareness of the game if you set your UI up to work in your favor. Having your UI elements still mostly centralized with nothing important being off to the sides is essential.
Also wow gives you a bigger field of view as you scale your resolution and it can support 8k. Bigger screens and bigger resolution are an advantage in wow however you see it. I can still focus on the exact part a guy with 24" monitor at 1080 does with my 32" 1440p monitor but I still have a butt load of extra field of view and screen real-estate to drop add-ons and WAs. In the ui max saw with the 21:9 aspect ration, if for example he could see a cannister on the far right side of his screen a 16:9 1080p player wouldn't be able to see it standing at the same place and with the camera angled the same.
@@andrevachon1616 Nope that's not how it works sorry. It's additional pixels in the x direction. Therefore when those pixels are populated by the game they are scaled by the game. :) Unless for some reason basic math principles and laws are deliberately ignored by manufacturers in order to make their UW products look terrible and normal widescreen products more appealing. Of course I could also satisfy your conspiracy theory and say that 1920x1080 is the default UW screen resolution.
People who think ultrawide is bad have usually never tried it. Saying that you gotta turn your head to look at stuff is some 2IQ shit. You can just move all your important UI to the middle of the screen and then you have way more space to put your chat and meters and shit that's not important off to the side. Makes the screen way less cramped and more comfortable to look at. Ultrawide masterrace.
Please do more of these Max! This was SO much fun to watch! It's funny to see folks get dunked on, but also you get to learn how to make a better ui. My favorite rating was "in serious financial trouble". I hope he has some more gold now.
But at least the chad with the ultrawide was able to see the soak that the plebs 16:9s could not without having to rotate their camera. Obviously in other games where it crops from top&bottom it's bad to have ultrawide monitor because you lose vision instead of gaining it. But in wow it's glorious.
I use the default UI with like details and dbm....that's it....I've cleared a large number of heroics in prog and some mythic prog as well, plenty of M+, been around since just before wrath. UI matters very little. It's all about you hitting the right buttons at the right time.
I have a disability and the left side of my UI is basically empty due to my visual defect. Trust me, I’m a 3/10 Mythic raider and we’re working on Kael’thas yet you’d hate my UI as a healer hahaha!
You can change the opacity of the note when it's locked. I have til at like 30 % background opacity so I can see soak circles behind it but it gives good contrast for the note text
In BFA I had to kick a healer off the raid cos he kept dieing on every simple mechanic. Why was that? Cos his raid frames were dead middle of the screen covering his character and like 60% of his whole view.
He's wrong about the ultrawide... If an ultrawide player sees a soak in his peripheral vision, it means that standard doesn't see it at all. At least to my knowledge wow doesn't squash/crop the 16:9 ratio to 21:9, you just get extra view on the sides. Having the UI spread out to the sides is a choice that can be argued about :)
This is only true if you have UI elements that would be at the edge of your screen just floating where the edge would be in 16:9 with empty space on the outsides - otherwise you're moving those further from your eyes.
I want a ultra wide so i can have 2 chat windows and a big note. Our notes are usually verry big. And i usually hide them and just memorizing them. I am a mage so i only need to track 2 things.
I hate setting up my UI, gives me a legit migraine. Watching this helped me digest the whole concept and practically of it all. I will now go and optimize mine. Thank you
I can proudly say that I got the opportunity to play with Sang in ToT, way back in the Exiled Legion days. Great person back then, and from the looks of it, still is. Amazing Balance Druid mentor, always something to be learned from him on every fight (Mechanics wise, I didn't know about that UI though). Kazenoryuu (or maybe it was Soranoryuu? Memory fails me) says hi, and grats on WF!
Disagree on the ultrawide take for wow. Most FPS's simply do not support it like other games do. Can't really compare wow to an fps either so that argument does not make sense. An ultrawide widens the FOV in wow, it does not in most competitive FPS games. And the ones that do support it are suffering from the performance drawback which in turn cripples the competitiveness.
It just gives you more space to spread non essential information, that's all. He just pointing out that there's no crucial information in WoW you'll get having a wide screen over a regular one, even more in FPS games, there's a reason some of those guys still play at 800x600 (with black bars).
@@Naeinsengimnida i have to reply to you since you clearly misunderstand the whole thing. Wow on ultra wide gives you more information. You can in the corner of your eye see mobs or stuff happening that on a regular screen isn’t even on the screen. You can have a lot of non vital information out in the peripheries so that you have less useless information taking up prime real estate on your screen that you would want to keep clean to watch what is happening. So there is actually absolutely NO drawbacks from it only improvements. When you talk about 800x600 and black bars in an FPS game the reason people do that is because it is more important in CS and other games like that to push as many FPS as possible 300-400 is very good. If you like I can explain why. If you sits on a computer that can’t do that reliable at a higher resolution you will improve gameplay by reducing resolution. In competitive FPS your FOV is usually locked so it wouldn’t even help with a wider screen since that would only stretch the image. Even though reducing resolution to a point like 800x600 sometimes would be a drawback since the pixels wouldn’t show the model coming into screen before it would take up more than 50% of the pixel but that is usually offset by the advantage of high FPS by a huge margin. This is not related to the numbers of frames your monitor manage to show. As it has to to with tracking and information calculations in the background. In an FPS you should always try to get as high FPS as possible. I have not noticed same effects in wow but an increase from 60 to around 100 gives a much smoother feeling when you play.
@@Naeinsengimnida He claims you have to turn your head to see the information. Which is not true. It gives a bigger FOV, the essential information (should be) is still centered like on a smaller screen. If one brings essential info to the outer edges of the screen, then sure. But that's dumb on a smaller monitor as well. It does not give an advantage but there's no disadvantage either. In essence the wider FOV gives more info about the surroundings. In FPS's the screen is just stretched and in games where the bigger FOV is supported the performance is crippled, which does give a disadvantage. People turn GFX and even resolution down to gain more response time. You can't compare an FPS to a game like WOW...
@@sinki19841984 He exaggerated but yes he is right, your vision goes too far which can makes you miss an information that could be more centered to your vision. My comparison with FPS games still stands, the point is getting an information right in front of you will be more efficient than looking on the sides. The only benefit of wide screen is to clean or "hide" all the non crucial informations on the side. For most players is might not be as impact but for those doing M+25 or Mythic raiding one second looking somewhere else can make you wipe, but of course learning when is the right time to look is also something to take into consideration.
12:07 DPS Looking at Dmg meters, i dont get it why you wanna do that? I usually record myself and memorize hard fights and if i am interested i go back and look how much Dps/Hps i did etc. But looking at them during the fight? What does it give? Is it like Fast and Furious, you look at Damage meter and be like "5.2k dps!?!, HECK NO!" *Downshifts and popping all CD's* "HAHA! NOW WE DOING 9k!!" I see so many dps players (im a healer) standing in all kinds of shit, but they are very vocal about how much dps they are doing, so deleting it all together i think would help many dps'ers perform better :) or "Hide during combat"
A LALAFEL! ♥ that first ui reminded me of a 4 year old when they pick their own clothes and dress themselves for the first time "my UI is custom..." The laptop firemage reminded me of that old pic that said something along the lines of “why play wow when you can play addon?”
It has come to my attention that ultra wide doesn’t work how it did back in the day. You can see more screen while using it. However it was worth it for all of the mad ultra wide users in comments, lets go.
Yeah, FOV is fixed vertically, not horizontally like in original Vanilla and TBC. If you want to minmax this, you can use the Leatrix Plus addon to add some black bars to the bottom and top of your screen (just put UI elements like chat, action bars or whatever in that space) and it actually lowers the vertical resolution even more, giving you even more of an advantage in peripheral vision. You basically get the same center of the screen as that 24" monitor you're talking about, but with even more extra information than an ultrawide screen.
I mean... If you're into that kinda thing. :D
Ultrawide is superior for WoW and crap for FPS
Lol. Well you are also a little biased in that you play WoW super competitively.
Ultrawide makes more sense for folks who play single player/immersive games more regularly and dabble in WoW. Sort of how 4k makes sense if you do most of your media consumption (movies/etc.) on your computer screen too rather than exclusively gaming.
Do you have any more examples for non-raid lead "good" uis? Your comment about moving abilities further up makes a ton of sense - my ui is also dated (it was largely unchanged from back in WoD).
When is the next uncov RL coming Max?
I play in triple monitor. I cant tell you how many times I'm the first person to notice things.
The warlocks UI looks like he woke up one morning, turned on wow and his addons just shifted to the left side of the screen and he was just like fk it and never fixed it
He looks like he died 10 times in a row to crescendo and made sure to not have anything near his character
might be blind on his right eye
Hes a world 60 raider and hes good af
@@dmc2095 no one said he sucks... His UI however is lulz 😂🤣🤣
Old school MMO ui were all on the left that's why i guess.
"you can randomly ban people, just don't do it a lot."
@Ibrahim Lachlan omgg ha ha damn dude try hacking DEEZ NUTS
these videos have been absolutely fuckin great, so glad this channel was started lol
The ending made me cry in laughter. Please keep this series up.
You could make this a series and every single episode would be hilarious. Please do more!
Agree with everything but the ultrawide.
The aya woe's fov/res actually works is you just gain extra on the sides - so the only reason there's a disadvantage is because elements are further away.
Move your UI elements in to the center in a 16x9 layout and boom: it's exactly the same yet there's just that slight chance for extra information on the side. Or more real estate to put more data bars.
Try experimenting with different custom resolutions and you'll see the game FoV is bound by the lower dimension, not the higher dimension.
When you play at 21:9 wow does stretch the image, it's one of the things that is super cool about wow, the bigger your resolution the bigger your field of view is, so It's a plus to have bigger screens and resolutions in wow.
VS for example in lol where I have to play windowed mode at 1920*1080 and only at like 70% of my screen because I have a 1440p 32 inch monitor and lol just stretches the image and makes everything super big if I play full screen at 1440p.
I believe they do it because it would be an unfair advantage since I would be able to see 1/3 of the river when I am in middle lane if they scaled properly for 1440p. You can only imagine in 4k.
And especially for wow you can put a bunch of non combat essential shit on the sides. I have 2 full chat windows on all the time along with details and vertical bars between them and still have a lot of free space.
Bigger resolutions are super awesome for wow. Once I upgrade my gpu I will consider upscaling to 4k.
i have no idea why this was recommended to me. I can tell you I dug out a backup 15 inch 1024x768 monitor back during firelands when I was one of the better resto druids on my small pond poor at raiding server, because the smaller screen made it easier for me to see EVERYTHING. I can't imagine ultrawide.
Just a FYI at 12:35 you can get an addon called "Minimapbuttonbutton" That will group your mini map icons and present them nicely.
I love that you just started unexpectedly giving weird rating!
“in serious financial trouble” 😭😭😭😂 had me in tears
luckily this came into my recommended, subbed!
Ultrawide is Masterrace. And FoV is expanded for 90% of modern games. So you have the option to see more and if you center your UI to the middle of the screen you simply have an advantage against anyone not using one.
You can't really argue that the ultrawide just looks better than the shitty normal aspect ratios where people have their ui taking up 35% of the entire screen.
The video zoom on the [Damage Done] moment ... and you see the Proud Mage name
Ultrawide implementation in WoW gives you more to see. The image is not stretched, so you see the same things as someone on normal 16:9 monitor BUT you can see more on the sides.
U dont need to turn your head in an ultrawide...
The advantage of ultrawide is you can store windiws you dont look at during combat maps and metera and stuff on the edges and it leaves more room in usable area.
i love my widescreen 21:9 monitor. the game looks so much better and stuff that is not important like map/questslog/chat is not in my view when i fight. And as someone in the comments wrote you have a wider fov.
First it was a bit weird but you get used to it!
if you have too many mini map buttons, download the addon minimap button bag! One clean button on the minimap which can be extended to see all buttons.
Default UI for life. It’s all you need.
The 10 instances of shooting stars got me
I played on 56 or 65 inch tv for four years. No problem . A bit in bf1 but wow was great.
That is the of the beauty's of WoW I found. unless someone uses NO UI addons at all, everyones UI is just a touch different to each players preference.
Rich Campbell joked about having kick on 7, the dude with taunt on 7 could be paying an homage to him
"You need to go farm some herbs or something"
The Ironbark (9:40 ish) near his player frame is BigDebuffs, not a weak aura
Having it reversed so that class colour shows when they are dead is actually quite useful to know quickly who died.
5:50 to be fair, the dude has an advantage over the regular 16:9 monitor as the 16:9 wont have that soak on their screen
This was amazing. Top tier content
He's judging why the font on bars in details is coloured while here I am, thinking that having a DPS counter during the fight is completely nonsensical and I just have it disabled... What a discrepancy.
how is the untitled spreadsheet dude seeing anything ? :D
To minimized the buttons on Mini map just add the addon 'MinimapButtonBagReborn'. It compact all the other addon in one single button.
i started playing with E and Q as my Builder and dump back in tbc quz I liked the placement better than 1-2-3. And still use it, its great
i bet you wipe back to front
Sang exposing himself for content, the hero we needed
with all these discord messages, i better see a part 2 coming soon
I play WoW on a 65'' TV.
I feel attacked :[ I have to Linda Blair my head all wonky to see anything xD
I'm like that DH on the 3rd screen, I tend to look all around the screen for everything and it's a habit that i'm used to and doesn't really bother me now
But then again, I'm what I call myself a hardcore casual so I play how it suits me :p
Ultra wide for WoW is -uhmazin- just gotta sit back
This is why I use a tartarus v2... best upgrade ever! Thumb stick for motion. No more wsad! And spell buttons for days! Then add in a razor naga and you will never go back to a keyboard ever again! I don’t even know how people use keyboards and play wow?!?!? Moving and trying to cast spells with your ring finger is not optimal! For me anyway.
seroz ui reminds me of one of those old arcade controllers.. with the giant joystick and like ABC XYZ buttons of various sizes xD
i have no idea why this was recommended to me. I have never and probably will never play wow.
max: i hate ultrawides
me: laughing infront of my 34" uwqhd
XD
I play on a 40" tv but i am 80% blind, i need to be able to see and it works well for me personally
I still have default UI for most things and a heap of WeakAuras in the centre. I'm a relative noob (only picked up WoW at the beginning of BfA).
Laptop the choice I had… no computer stores around for cheap rigs and I know nothing about them til now that is
just switched from a 34 UW up to the CX 48. I'm not about to go back, as the vertical graphic improvement is nice on boss fights (among other improvements), but the game itself really does look better on an UW. And the comment about being able to see the soak off to the right... a 16:9 player simply wouldn't see that at all :). Think of it this way, chats and other completely irrelevant UI elements can be pushed out of the way with zero downside to your 'standard' game field of vision.
i recommend MBB for those mini map buttons, MinimapButtonBag
This may be a dumb question, but how do you get the note area? I assume through ert or something similar? I'd like to use it for my guild.
That mage's UI looks like some vanilla Naxx shit.
Haha, I game on 4 monitors, my main screen is a 52" TV. 🤷♂️ works great!
people playing ultrawide meanwhile i'm here with my trusty 16-10 screen
i play ultra wide and do 30 keys... so i dont agree its "not pro". i played CS for 20 years. and has been in the top for many years. i played/play on 27+ monitors in CSGO but yes 24 before that.
I think UI is a lot like key binds. Everyone is different in some way. I think if you can be effective at your role and used to your UI, then there is no reason to change. If you are a world first raider then you might have to change it for WA reasons. Other than that I don’t see why you would change.
Or if it's REALLY bad. For example, on my first kill of Normal Sire, I had multiple addons and WA telling me the same things overlapped with each other, and my button sizes were totally disproportionate. It has so much information, all the information it does have is practically unaccessible.
@@marcdragon2936 yeah the information has to make sense to the person and has to be readable. Sometimes though, what works for one doesn’t work for another. That’s kind of what is so nice about UIs. You can alter your UI so you can understand it and make it easily understandable to you. Max is kind of looking at these as the 21st man since that is his role so his type of UI has to work for him as well as the one he screen sharing with. So it is typically something that is not going to happen in normal or heroic clears and most of the time not even in mythic. I mean I haven’t used a altered UI in years besides standard elvui and dbm. I do not do mythic and don’t intend on doing that content so I just don’t believe it is actually necessary. Does it make it easier? Absolutely. Is it required? Absolutely not.
@@al44tec Agreed, for sure! I like having a UI I setup and work on, personally; it's a lot easier to watch videos of kills when I can see what's going on. But I'm also not trying to push the hardest content in the game - I mean, there's a reason I mentioned Normal Sire; I never did Heroic Sire, though a few friends did invite me to a bit of Mythic near the end of the tier. Regardless, I think the UI has to be readable for the person - if the person can't gather the information they need because the information is so bloated, there's no reason to have it.
i bet you're a clicker
Are you happy with the airpods max?
This was so funny, I need a sequel.
Lol bro playing on ultra wide is fine, like how close are you sitting at your screen to feel the need to turn your entire fuckin head. You can see more shit and it doesn't feel as cramped, its dope.
LOL! What I can see of this is that some people just pay the sub to play UI and not wow. 70% UI on screen, 30% actual game.
Dude, I'm a warlock and I bres more than our druids and dks. That's the life of a clutch warlock
This reminds me of the Preach Halloween UI competition.
Is it bad id my ui is worse than all of these since I use default ui and have all my actionbars filled up xD
if he would have seen my interfaces from 2004-2011 he would gotten a heart attack!
look up minimap button bag (believe its also listed as MBB) addon. It will change your life.
MBB-Reborn is the one that works for shadowlands
I like how people are shiting and saying how UI's should be , and there are people playing their game with default UI even and beating mythic end bosses and not giving a fuck :P
I am one of those people 😊
(With a few adjustments with target, focus, etc placement and addons)
What is the song at the end?
Dude, you need to do more of these. I live for this shit!
agreed
for real, Max, please keep making videos likes this... I was so fucking excited after working like 12 hours to see that you had a new video, and when i found out it was a meme video, i lost my shit!!!
this vid made me sub, agreed.
sounds like a sad life
@@MrNickcrush and you really had nothing better to do than reply with that. Looks like I'm not the only only with a sad life then.
The best part of this is Max catching out a random guildie trying to duck out mid pull 🤣
"How did we win world first?"
Because my man Sang learned to keybind!
I am the RL for my current guild and for every farm boss the new note will become. Kill boss, get loot
I love how he trashed most of the viewer ui´s and then ended up with what could only be described as the worst ui ever shown in public and it´s from a world first raider.
Ok I need a raid leaders only UI version of this, I want to submit
same, mostly because i know mine is bad.
The UIs of the top 10 world first raid leaders please. I wanna know if they have any differences.
The way Max says "that guy's trying to leave" in the first UI never fails to kill me
I’m pretty sure the ultra wides show a wider fov, so it’s not just stretching from 16:9. Meaning you’ll see things with the ultra wide that you just wouldn’t see with the standard 16:9.
I took 21:9 from a friend but only 25" and it's not stretched. With only 25" u don't need to tilt your head around to see if you are like 40cm+ away from screen.
Correct. You not only have more screen real-estate but it lets you do stuff like putting chat way off to the side because its much less important during combat or hiding stuff out to the side when streaming in 16:9.
I was hoping someone pointed this out. Yeah you have to turn your eyes/head more to see that soak on the far right, but you literally can't even see it on a normal screen unless your turn your character sooo
Can confirm that this is correct. Usually anyway.
The people who shit on ultrawides are always the people who have never tried it.
The example you gave about the ultrawide user having to move their head to see something at the edge of the screen...they wouldnt see that thing on screen at all if they had a 16x9 monitor. I totally agree that UI elements need to be moved to the center so you can see them without needing to move your eyes off your character - but the wider your aspect ratio the more game is visible at all.
The ultrawide head turning only occurs if you sit like 6 inches from your monitor. I play on a 49 inch suw I sit about 2 to 3 feet back with a keyboard tray and you can see the entire fov of the monitor. Depends on setup. The head turning does not occur. Also the suw shows a wider fov. It shows a lot more of the boss room.
People that have never played wow on an Ultra Wide are under the impression that the game is somehow stretched. The screen isn't stretched, you are actually given several inches of EXTRA vision. The few inches on either side are actually in addition to the normal FoV you get on a regular 16:9 screen. The ultra wide does nothing but improve your overall awareness of the game if you set your UI up to work in your favor. Having your UI elements still mostly centralized with nothing important being off to the sides is essential.
Also wow gives you a bigger field of view as you scale your resolution and it can support 8k. Bigger screens and bigger resolution are an advantage in wow however you see it. I can still focus on the exact part a guy with 24" monitor at 1080 does with my 32" 1440p monitor but I still have a butt load of extra field of view and screen real-estate to drop add-ons and WAs.
In the ui max saw with the 21:9 aspect ration, if for example he could see a cannister on the far right side of his screen a 16:9 1080p player wouldn't be able to see it standing at the same place and with the camera angled the same.
Any pics from ultra wide screens I've seen are definitely stretched. Yes you get more view of the area, but it doesn't scale properly
@@andrevachon1616 Nope that's not how it works sorry. It's additional pixels in the x direction. Therefore when those pixels are populated by the game they are scaled by the game. :) Unless for some reason basic math principles and laws are deliberately ignored by manufacturers in order to make their UW products look terrible and normal widescreen products more appealing. Of course I could also satisfy your conspiracy theory and say that 1920x1080 is the default UW screen resolution.
People who think ultrawide is bad have usually never tried it. Saying that you gotta turn your head to look at stuff is some 2IQ shit. You can just move all your important UI to the middle of the screen and then you have way more space to put your chat and meters and shit that's not important off to the side. Makes the screen way less cramped and more comfortable to look at. Ultrawide masterrace.
These peasants need to get with the times. it's not 2008 anymore, UW for life. counterstrike players...
Please do more of these Max! This was SO much fun to watch! It's funny to see folks get dunked on, but also you get to learn how to make a better ui. My favorite rating was "in serious financial trouble". I hope he has some more gold now.
It's the DH at 15:45 for reference
But at least the chad with the ultrawide was able to see the soak that the plebs 16:9s could not without having to rotate their camera. Obviously in other games where it crops from top&bottom it's bad to have ultrawide monitor because you lose vision instead of gaining it. But in wow it's glorious.
I use the default UI with like details and dbm....that's it....I've cleared a large number of heroics in prog and some mythic prog as well, plenty of M+, been around since just before wrath. UI matters very little. It's all about you hitting the right buttons at the right time.
This guy gets it
If you play WoW on an ultra-wide, your minimap is in another post code. :’)
Sure. It's also not important for the vast majority of time in combat ;)
That's as relevant of an argument as saying you can barely see your bags. Who cares about the minimap lmao
@@DJRustybikechain If you stream, then that is actually a legit strat just keeping all the stuff you want hidden outside of the stream area.
I feel like I can see everything
I play on 21:9 with the GW2 UI. Cleanest UI out there. Never had an issue.
"I learned to keybind in siege of Orgrimmar, man" :D
the DH Hearthing - I'm Dead
Maybe the first Gamer Only has vision in his left eye.
I have also, but still I use most of my screen
I have a disability and the left side of my UI is basically empty due to my visual defect. Trust me, I’m a 3/10 Mythic raider and we’re working on Kael’thas yet you’d hate my UI as a healer hahaha!
i wanna see your ui now lol
My best WoW friend is 4/10M and has been a clicker since he started in MoP.
@@MatthewMershon 4/10 mythic in raidweek 12 when he started in MoP means that he is not good
@@felixemmer8376 my dude is a clicker and still out performing 95% of WoW players lol...
12:52 the dude is still tracking his heart of azeroth level lmao
if you mean the bars bellow his minimap then I am pretty sure that that is reputation and honor level cos ElvUI hides the azerite bar on default
You can change the opacity of the note when it's locked. I have til at like 30 % background opacity so I can see soak circles behind it but it gives good contrast for the note text
16 years of wow, still crushing it with the default UI. I can never get rid of it.
I'm sorry
Sorry to hear
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In BFA I had to kick a healer off the raid cos he kept dieing on every simple mechanic. Why was that? Cos his raid frames were dead middle of the screen covering his character and like 60% of his whole view.
Ranting about 21:9 and I'm playing 32:9 XD. CS player play on small monitors to mess up the graphics and have a bigger visual hitbox
I learned how to bind in SL, lmao I went to my friend's house and he had somethings binded and I asked him how, I went home and binded everything LUL
He's wrong about the ultrawide... If an ultrawide player sees a soak in his peripheral vision, it means that standard doesn't see it at all. At least to my knowledge wow doesn't squash/crop the 16:9 ratio to 21:9, you just get extra view on the sides. Having the UI spread out to the sides is a choice that can be argued about :)
This is only true if you have UI elements that would be at the edge of your screen just floating where the edge would be in 16:9 with empty space on the outsides - otherwise you're moving those further from your eyes.
I want a ultra wide so i can have 2 chat windows and a big note. Our notes are usually verry big. And i usually hide them and just memorizing them. I am a mage so i only need to track 2 things.
@@666lumberjack who dafuq needs his map in a raid anyways? there is literally no UI element u need which is at the side of the monitor.
the default UI is fine i dont see why people cant play unless they make their UI look like a spaceship control center
Agreed default is where its at
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You dont need to have note unlock to have black background. You can just add background in the settings and you can have it semi transparant
Great players dont need great UI's, but bad players need a great UI 😂 roger that
I hate setting up my UI, gives me a legit migraine. Watching this helped me digest the whole concept and practically of it all. I will now go and optimize mine. Thank you
Just checking in on you after the 10.0 UI changes, hope you're dealing with it brother
I can proudly say that I got the opportunity to play with Sang in ToT, way back in the Exiled Legion days. Great person back then, and from the looks of it, still is. Amazing Balance Druid mentor, always something to be learned from him on every fight (Mechanics wise, I didn't know about that UI though). Kazenoryuu (or maybe it was Soranoryuu? Memory fails me) says hi, and grats on WF!
Disagree on the ultrawide take for wow. Most FPS's simply do not support it like other games do. Can't really compare wow to an fps either so that argument does not make sense. An ultrawide widens the FOV in wow, it does not in most competitive FPS games. And the ones that do support it are suffering from the performance drawback which in turn cripples the competitiveness.
It just gives you more space to spread non essential information, that's all. He just pointing out that there's no crucial information in WoW you'll get having a wide screen over a regular one, even more in FPS games, there's a reason some of those guys still play at 800x600 (with black bars).
@@Naeinsengimnida i have to reply to you since you clearly misunderstand the whole thing.
Wow on ultra wide gives you more information. You can in the corner of your eye see mobs or stuff happening that on a regular screen isn’t even on the screen. You can have a lot of non vital information out in the peripheries so that you have less useless information taking up prime real estate on your screen that you would want to keep clean to watch what is happening. So there is actually absolutely NO drawbacks from it only improvements.
When you talk about 800x600 and black bars in an FPS game the reason people do that is because it is more important in CS and other games like that to push as many FPS as possible 300-400 is very good. If you like I can explain why. If you sits on a computer that can’t do that reliable at a higher resolution you will improve gameplay by reducing resolution. In competitive FPS your FOV is usually locked so it wouldn’t even help with a wider screen since that would only stretch the image. Even though reducing resolution to a point like 800x600 sometimes would be a drawback since the pixels wouldn’t show the model coming into screen before it would take up more than 50% of the pixel but that is usually offset by the advantage of high FPS by a huge margin.
This is not related to the numbers of frames your monitor manage to show. As it has to to with tracking and information calculations in the background. In an FPS you should always try to get as high FPS as possible. I have not noticed same effects in wow but an increase from 60 to around 100 gives a much smoother feeling when you play.
@@Naeinsengimnida He claims you have to turn your head to see the information. Which is not true. It gives a bigger FOV, the essential information (should be) is still centered like on a smaller screen. If one brings essential info to the outer edges of the screen, then sure. But that's dumb on a smaller monitor as well. It does not give an advantage but there's no disadvantage either. In essence the wider FOV gives more info about the surroundings.
In FPS's the screen is just stretched and in games where the bigger FOV is supported the performance is crippled, which does give a disadvantage. People turn GFX and even resolution down to gain more response time.
You can't compare an FPS to a game like WOW...
@@sinki19841984 He exaggerated but yes he is right, your vision goes too far which can makes you miss an information that could be more centered to your vision. My comparison with FPS games still stands, the point is getting an information right in front of you will be more efficient than looking on the sides. The only benefit of wide screen is to clean or "hide" all the non crucial informations on the side. For most players is might not be as impact but for those doing M+25 or Mythic raiding one second looking somewhere else can make you wipe, but of course learning when is the right time to look is also something to take into consideration.
Seeing players who don't keybind their interrupts truly hurts my soul.
It's not suprising at all to me lol... Noone ever interrupts in pugs ever.
12:07 DPS Looking at Dmg meters, i dont get it why you wanna do that? I usually record myself and memorize hard fights and if i am interested i go back and look how much Dps/Hps i did etc. But looking at them during the fight? What does it give? Is it like Fast and Furious, you look at Damage meter and be like "5.2k dps!?!, HECK NO!" *Downshifts and popping all CD's* "HAHA! NOW WE DOING 9k!!"
I see so many dps players (im a healer) standing in all kinds of shit, but they are very vocal about how much dps they are doing, so deleting it all together i think would help many dps'ers perform better :) or "Hide during combat"
A LALAFEL! ♥ that first ui reminded me of a 4 year old when they pick their own clothes and dress themselves for the first time "my UI is custom..."
The laptop firemage reminded me of that old pic that said something along the lines of “why play wow when you can play addon?”