Camelot Getting Started Guide
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Welcome to the Camelot Getting Started Guide. This video is the first step to understanding the interface, language, and basic logic of the application, so that you can take your first steps into the app without frustration. Before you watch the video, though, we want to reveal a secret: there is no single way to use Camelot and the reason is simple: there is no single way to put on a live performance! Camelot presents endless possibilities, but it must be understood in order to model one's real situation. At the same time, understanding Camelot's tools can inspire you to accomplish things you never before thought possible.
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BRAVO!!!! Love this starting guide... Hopefully soon there will be more in-depth videos... been waiting for this, Looking forward to seeing more!!!
Yes we will add new tutorials, let us know the topics that are most important so we can priorities them.
@@AudioModeling I need to better understand how to control hardware and software instruments from MIDI controllers in a live performance context especially when the software instruments only ever receive in OMNI mode like Arturia's do. I'd like to be able to set the keyboard controllers' send channels and hardware instruments' receive channels to fixed values and leave them alone so that, for instance, if I've got a keyboard controller that's set to send on channel 1 and a hardware instrument that's set to receive on channel 14, either at the Scene level or the Layer level (or both) a remap from channel 1 to channel 14 is taking place.
@@hubbsllc it’s very easy: either at Layer level or at Item level, enable the Advanced Channel Routing in the MIDI Transformers panel, then configure it for any routing you may need
Thanks for this video. Eagerly awaiting more. Long time Mainstage user here. Not quite ready to make the leap but I'm intrigued. Really want to see more about programming physical controls (sliders, pots, switches) and what uses they can be linked to. Also: get the Kurzweil Forte smart maps to work correctly...then you'll have me sold!
Thank you for this interesting tutorial!
Thanks for this. I hope further videos will follow!
Would love to see a video explaining the use of set list layers and connecting virtual instruments from set list layer to specific songs.
OMG!!! I'm going to "pull the trigger" tonight. This is the only non DAW app that addresses my needs precisely & exceeds them. Like with their instruments, AM "knocked it out of the park" with this.
Thanks for you words!
I'm hoping to use Camelot to operate a live keyboard rig with multiple MIDI controllers and both virtual instrument plugins within the same laptop and hardware MIDI-controllable synthesizers. Thus far I've found that if I click on enough things I can make a virtual instrument I've loaded into a Layer receive on a given MIDI channel but it's unnecessarily difficult. As a note, the Arturia plugins i'm using always operate in OMNI mode (receives on all sixteen channels at once). What I'd really like to do is have it where I can, for instance, leave one of the MIDI keyboard controllers on channel 1 and EITHER set a plugin within a Layer to channel 6 and have either the Layer or the Scene map incoming channel 1 to channel 6 OR set a plugin to channel 1 only within that Layer so that the keyboard controller is running that plugin in that Scene. The former - with or without the latter also being a possibility - would be better for hardware instruments because that way, it can just stay set to one MIDI receive channel all the time and so can the controller. But the grid of colored buttons that I'm eventually able to find and get to do what I want if I click on enough things just makes no sense to me and I've worked with MIDI since the mid-1980s. Oh - I almost forgot to mention: the MIDI controls for an instrument in a Layer need to be right there on the tile for that instrument. We shouldn't have to click around to get the weird grid of colored channel buttons.
Thanks for your comment and suggestion. Everything in Camelot is designed coherently.
The “colored grid”, i.e. the Advanced Channel Routing, is available at device level, layer level and item level, depending on the user’s needs.
E.g. If you need to filter or remap a channel of a controller for any Setlist, you can apply it at device level (Settings -> MIDI -> Inputs -> contextual … menu).
The “weird colored matrix” is not just a filter, where you cana enable or disable a given channle (probably, you are used to that); it is a a routing matrix. It means you can forward any Input channel to any Output channel, even with multiple assignments. That’s useful for controlling a multi-timbral synth or plugin from a single-zone controller.
Revolutionary!
Does Camelot have the ability to pre-load all plugins in an entire setlist, or only each song?
The software is designed to load plugins for each song, for the purpose of not overloading the device.
So, the Scene switching within a Song is immediate, while loading the resources for a Song takes a while.
Anyway, there are special layers called “Setlist Layers”, where the plugins are loaded at the Setlist loading and they last for the entire Setlist. Then you can “connect” such plugins on the Songs or Scenes you need.
Basically, you can balance the resources even for a long Setlist.
@@AudioModeling thanks for the info!
Hi there,
Is something like sidechain , busses,aux possible in Camelot(or a way to achieve similar outcomes)?
Also,could i controll it with an ipad?
Thanks
Looking forward to your reply.
Yes, Camelot can handle audio routing similarly to how DAWs use sidechains, buses, and auxiliary tracks. Here’s how:
1) Layer Structure: In Camelot, each Layer acts as a complete signal path, and you can route audio between Layers. This is comparable to using buses or auxiliary tracks in traditional DAWs. For example, you can create a Layer as a master effects chain or submix and route other Layers through it using Audio Layer Connectors.
2) Sidechain Inputs: Certain plugins, like compressors, that support sidechaining can be set up in Camelot. These sidechain inputs are recognized within the plugin's settings, and Camelot can route audio from one Layer into another Layer’s sidechain input.
3) Mixing and Outputs: Camelot allows you to assign different outputs to Layers, enabling you to create multiple output mixes (e.g., for monitors, front-of-house, etc.), similar to how you'd use buses in other audio software. This flexibility is useful for both live and studio setups.
For further details on audio routing and mixing in Camelot, you can refer to this tutorial: kb.audiomodeling.com/en/camelot/c/how-to/d/camelot-tutorial-audio-routing-and-mixing/
Regarding the iPad, while Camelot has a fully functional stand-alone version for iPad, it also offers an advanced feature that allows you to connect two Camelot instances (e.g., two iPads, or an iPad and a desktop) via MIDI in primary/secondary mode (also known as master/slave). In this setup, one device acts as a remote control for the other, managing scenes, instrument changes, and MIDI parameters in real-time. This is especially useful in live performance settings.
Hi Audio Modelling - is it possible to change between scenes, layers or even songs using midi PC (Program Change) messages. I’m using a widimaster bluetooth with my Boss SY1000 which would be sending the program change messages. Could you give a brief overview of how this is possible?
Yes, it’s possible! You need to enable the “Camelot Master” controller under SETTINGS -> Remote Control -> MIDI -> From/By, and set the MIID port of your controller.
The mapping is fixed, cannot be changed:
- BankSelect MSB selects the current Setlist
- BankSelect LSB selects the current Song within the selected Setlist
- ProgramChange selects the current Scene within the selected Song
Excellent - great intro. Any chance of pointing out differences (if any) with the iOS version? This is a superb piece of software - from some nice people! Thanks…
Thanks! There are no differences between iOS and desktop versions, except the ones due to the system, e.g. the supported plugin formats
Thinking of purchasing. But I have 2 questions. Will Camelot accept my Yamaha PSR e463 arranger keyboard? To use Camelot live, would I need to have internet access? Thank you.
Hi Donna R! Yamaha PSR e463 can be controlled by Camelot using custom MIDI Items. You are required to have basic knowledge of MIDI and the BankSelect / ProgramChange of the PSR sounds.
Camelot for iPad doesn’t require Internet access; Camelor for desktop as well, but you need to connect to Internet every 50 openings to refresh the authorization
Hi. Why “Go to Time Line has only 15 Events” ? Is it possible to increase the Event counts ?
We have limited the number of got events because it would very difficult to remember them for direct access, to be honest I was thinking they were too much. Would you be able to describe your user case in order to understand your need of more of them?
How many Pluggins I can use in One Set list or in One Song ? Is there any limitations ? Please clear the doubt
There is no limitation: as many as the CPU / RAM of your device can handle
Having to turn Local Off doesn't appeal to me , I won't be able to use my hardware controls in Local Off
You can use your HW in local on as well, if you feel safer. You can use less feature that the MIDI processing of Camelot provides.
Can you point me to a guide or video that shows how to connect midi cables for multiple devices. I have a Kronos, Nord Piano, MacBook, Hammond XM-2, and a Krome that I would like to use Camelot to send all patch/program changes from. I currently have them all midi connected to a iConnectivity MioXM module.
No video needed. Just connect all of them to the MioXM, and connect the MioXM to the MacBook.
In Camelot, you will need to select the proper MioXM port for each device.
More info:
kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/how-to/d/getting-started-a-camelot-tutorial
kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/how-to/d/tutorial-hardware-and-software-instruments
Thanks. Will this also work with Camelot running on my iPad ? I don’t have Camelot for my MacBook
Im going to use Camelot pro with midi guitar2 plugin so my classical guitar audio will be converted into midi then into songs in Camelot. But I also want to be able to have a way to play the classical guitar with effects at same time or on its own too how???
Select the same audio channel you use for feeding MIDI GUITAR 2 on a second Layer, and add Post-Processor/ Effect Plugins as desired
that will make it so you can hear my actual audio from guitar ? @@AudioModeling
@@Bflatest yes
I'm going to build my whole new set around this and midi guitar2 so I can play classical guitar then switch to sax then play both same time and so on
@@AudioModeling
Are the user-loaded backing tracks stored locally?
@@joel6427 yes, they get imported in an internal folder
@@AudioModeling Can I copy and paste into that folder or do I have to go through the process one by one?
@@joel6427 you can drag & drop multiple files at the same time on the desktop version, or you can use the multiple selection on iOS.
It's not possible to add the files manually to the internal folder, since the filename need to be encoded for internal purposes (quick indexing and retrieval)
Hi.
I have created some instruments in a AUv3 plugin and named them in Alphabetical order. when I open then the plug-in out of the Camelot or Independently it shows my Saved Presets according to the Naming Order. But when I open inside the Camelot the order has shuffled. What is the reason ? And how to solve it ?
It depends how the plugin exposes the presets to the host. Try with another host, if it shows the same order, that’s the reason
@@AudioModeling thank you… I will try..
I’ve bought Camelot Pro but was disappointed that I couldn’t use about half of my software instrument apps. Things like iLectric Piano and Galileo Organ (which I use a lot) are just not available as a software instrument in Camelot. Are there any plans to allow them to be used? I can use them with Audiobus and AUM
Ho John, all those Apps are Inter-App Audio (IAA) apps, not plugins.
Camelot doesn’t support IAA for two main reasons: 1) IAA has been declared deprecated by Apple. Apple strongly recommends not to use IAA anymore. 2) IAA is a single-instace audio/MIDI technology, not a plugin format; it is useless for Camelot, since it allows multiple Scenes and instances.
My suggestion for you is to start searching for replacement of those apps, since they could eventually not be used anymore in hosts in some future iPadOS update
I’m using Camelot now for a several month. I connect the Nord Stage 2 and the Yamaha Montage. Everyting works fine but there’s one thing, the Yamaha switch to the right program, but not to the current setlist Item. Is it possible to fix this? ( So I want to switch direct to the Yamaha’s setlist)
Camelot works on Performances. Camelot cannot work on the Montage Setlist, as there can be the same Perfomance multiple times, so which one Camelot should select?
If you use Camelot as Setlist manager, you should forget the Setlist on the Montage, or vice-versa.
@@AudioModeling Thnx for your Answer
Hi..
How to change the Camelot Patches using midi Keyboard like Novation Launch Key which is having 16pads...
Please REPLY & Please HELP
Hi, I suppose you mean "Camelot Scenes".
You can assign one of the 16 pads to the "Next Scene" event and another one to the "Prev Scene" event.
Any assignment is done in Settings -> Remote Control -> MIDI -> From/By.
Everything is clearly explained here: kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/how-to/d/camelot-tutorial-10-remote-control
@@AudioModelingthanks for the reply... i ll check it..
Hi… i have purchased KORG iM1 from APP STORE.. It is working normally when I use in ipad.. but it is not showing in CAMELOT.. please help me.. how to solve this..
iM1 is not an AUv3 plugin. You cannot load it into Camelot.
You can use it as an external device: leave it open in background and send MIDI data to it from a MIDI Program Item.
can you please expalin - how to use it ?
@@swarafusionband420 watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/O8FT68PImUg/v-deo.html
@@AudioModeling ok thank you so much.. now it is done... but now how can i create SCENES of different instruments inside the same LIVE SET using the same KORG iM1 ?
Because for First scene i set the Korg iM1 midi channel to 2 as follwed by the video you mentioned..but for second scene i dint understood what to do.. because when i change the patch in M1 both previous and the present are changing ....
So how to manage this ?
How to Organise Camelot Templates. Because they are not in Alphabetical order or not in Numerical order also
Hi, at the moment you can only rename or delete templates. We will introduce in the future more tools for data management.
is it possible to open the template’s folder in side the iPAD File Manager ?
@@AudioModelingSir this is one of the most important feature to organise the workflow.. please update it as soon possible…please
@@GururajMG-w2h templates are not saved as files in a folder, they are saved along with Camelot state.
We will take into account your request and provide a better management of templates in future releases
@@AudioModeling thank you sir
This is God send . I would like a tshirt please
background music was much too loud and distracting
What is the song rack and how to use it?
Song Rack is a container for Song Layers. A Song Layer is a Layer thta lasts for the whole Song and doesn’t change at Scene change. More: kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/how-to/d/camelot-tutorial-layers-and-items
@@AudioModeling Thanks a lot! if I want to use about 20 instruments in the improvisation concert (for change them randomly throughout the whole concert) - what are you suggest to use? It seems that in this case whole concert = 1 song, and all instruments must be placed in the setlist rack? (all instruments mus be able to be assigned to any of 2 midi keyboards at any time) And how to see all these instruments on the ipad screen for switching?
@@VadimKupriyanov nope. I suggest to create a Song with each scene corresponding to a patch, and switch patches randomly as needed
I'd love a deep dive on the MIDI functionality within Camelot generally - the video voiceover even says having many MIDI ports "can be confusing to navigate and can lead to configuration errors." On top of it, I have 16 Camelot MIDI inputs and outputs in my app's port list in addition to the hardware I use, which don't even appear in this video, so I'd love to just understand what those are.
Those are 16 Virtual MIDI Ports Camelot creates for connecting to other Apps on the same device (macOS, iOS only).
By default the application starts with just one virtual MIDI port; those 16 ports are disabled, so you probably enabled them inadvertently in SETTINGS -> Options.
@@AudioModeling Great, thanks. that's helpful info.
Sorry but this is not a starting guide. It is an overview of all the functions. It would be nice to get a real starting guide though.
@@Klaas_H check our support center; follow all 12 tutorials: kb.audiomodeling.com/en/c/how-to/d/getting-started-a-camelot-tutorial
@@AudioModeling Yes they are the real guides. Thanks for the links.