I Spent 20€ at a Flea Market and made Something AMAZING! (Internet Radio)

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  • @alexvdvelde
    @alexvdvelde Рік тому +253

    If I was you... I forget the touch screen and program 5 stations under the old buttons of the radio itself. You can also ad more stations and use a rotary encoder connected to the old station selector

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +24

      Also possible :-)

    • @michaelosmon
      @michaelosmon Рік тому +2

      @@greatscottlab thanks for the inspiration 🙏

    • @nayanbarman2236
      @nayanbarman2236 Рік тому +7

      thats great idea. i would have used the vaccum tube amp for that distinct sound quality

    • @badeadrian
      @badeadrian Рік тому +6

      I could hide Alexa inside 😂...

    • @suspeh
      @suspeh Рік тому +3

      I thought the same, five buttons, five radio stations

  • @codebeat4192
    @codebeat4192 Рік тому +195

    When using only five stations you don't need a touchscreen. A really nice idea is to use the scale as selector for the stations so you must tune in to a station to keep the analog feel alive. When nothing is selected use some static noise. This can be done with an IR LED (attachted to the back of the pointer) and a few (IR) photoresistors/transistors. When the pointer is above a photoresistor/transistor and the LED shines on it, a station is selected. I think this is a really awesome idea and pretty easy to implement.

    • @explorerpragun431
      @explorerpragun431 Рік тому +3

      Good idea

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest Рік тому +13

      Or just measure the tuning cap. It's much easier.

    • @codebeat4192
      @codebeat4192 Рік тому +2

      @@bzuidgeest Okay, try it and come back with your results. Succes!

    • @FaizanKhan-iq3yd
      @FaizanKhan-iq3yd Рік тому +2

      @@bzuidgeest need an rc circuit with mcu timer

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest Рік тому

      @@codebeat4192 don't have to, use Google, several options that others have done out there. But you can use your convoluted way if you want to.

  • @leopoldomolina1664
    @leopoldomolina1664 Рік тому +90

    Nice project but I had preferred the old radio electronics to come back to live! Old analog radios is an amazing world, with today’s electronics advance they could be improve a lot in quality and features.

    • @tiborbogi7457
      @tiborbogi7457 Рік тому +11

      I agree, I feel sad about destroying old radio. Old radios had phono input, so he can use tube amplifier of the radio along with the speaker to amplify internet radio signal. I hope, it is still possible to restore such old radio.

    • @charlesschneiter5159
      @charlesschneiter5159 Рік тому +3

      I 100% agree on that! What a pity to destroy a superb audio amplifier already present in there. All it usually takes to restore these is to replace some of the old electrolytic capacitors and de-oxide the various switches and contacts. Tubes usually last forever.

    • @LKonstantina915
      @LKonstantina915 Рік тому

      well the tubes could be dead

    • @fanman8677
      @fanman8677 Рік тому +2

      @@LKonstantina915 very unlikely i restore radios and this set is one i do want and tubes of that era are very reliable.

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos Рік тому +94

    Those old Grundig's are great when they are restored. I can understand you wanting to completely rebuild the internals with modern components, but they do sound amazing using a bluetooth or other adaptor and just restoring the existing electronics. 90% of the time the Valves/Tubes are good.

    • @cjay2
      @cjay2 Рік тому +19

      Exactly. Not gonna be subscribing to this channel.

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 Рік тому +20

      @@cjay2 Ok bye.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +25

      My tubes were busted though.

    • @KofolaDealer
      @KofolaDealer Рік тому +31

      @@greatscottlab I like your videos but this is a disaster, even a qualified service would repair it for cheaper and bluetooth modules are cheap on the internet. With the added bonus of saving an old radio

    • @davidglobex189
      @davidglobex189 Рік тому +3

      You guys are being to harsh on him. The man can do as he pleases and he is showing us a neat alternative to vintage restoration.

  • @rubabmubarrat
    @rubabmubarrat Рік тому +117

    when I was 12, I opened up a radio like this one which my grandfather bought from UK back in 1980s. It was made out of plastic powered by a 6V lead acid battery. Components were quite different back then. There were expensive Germanium transistors along with chunky electrolytic capacitors and 1W brown coloured resistors. Only same component I found there which we still use commercially is the knob potentiometer. It all were connected by wires, no modern pcb whatsoever. However back then, I didn’t know a lot about electronics so I just scrapped the parts and collected them in a jar which I still have. This video makes me feel nostalgic.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +17

      Thanks for the feedback :-) Nice story

    • @EasyElectronics2412
      @EasyElectronics2412 Рік тому +5

      Same story! Regret opening vintage radio back then instead i would have opened now😢

    • @Katanium
      @Katanium Рік тому +1

      Same here

    • @bwselectronic
      @bwselectronic Рік тому +6

      Record player for me that my mom had from the 50s. This is the type of thing if it's beyond repair, you modify to use. If it still is usable you restore

    • @airmann90
      @airmann90 Рік тому

      Check out youtube.com/@MrCarlsonsLab he's got awesome vintage radio restorations. Makes me nostalgic from seeing the old stuff around as a kid and tearing it apart lol.

  • @andrebartels1690
    @andrebartels1690 Рік тому +38

    I usually like your projects. Still, this one is hard on me. I love the appeal of those tube type radios, and part of it is their distinctive scent when they get warm. You lost this part to the trash can. Another point is, that musicians spend amounts of money for a tube type amplifier which you had at hand. The only thing you needed, is a Bluetooth to FM converter, and you could have simply played whatever your smartphone throws at the old steam horse. No need for such an invasive solution. Sometimes, less is more.

    • @trhosking
      @trhosking Рік тому +3

      That radio would not receive FM.

    • @martinrocket1436
      @martinrocket1436 Рік тому +3

      Are we sure the radio was still working? And I'd find bluetooth-to-FM a bit low tech. Would have been cooler to find a way to directly hook external input to the audio circuit.

    • @trhosking
      @trhosking Рік тому +1

      @@martinrocket1436 It’s an old radio. It doesn’t matter if it’s still working now, it’s easily fixed. That’s the beauty of old technology. I agree that using as much of the existing hardware as possible would be the best way to go.

    • @ZackC
      @ZackC Рік тому +5

      Two things worth noting. First off, old electronics are often extremely carcinogenic, thanks to an abundance of polychlorinated biphenyl and other compounds now long banned. Secondly, musicians don’t pay a lot for tubes, they pay a lot for very specific tubes in excellent condition.
      It’s unlikely that what was lost here was worth keeping.

    • @andrebartels1690
      @andrebartels1690 Рік тому

      @@trhosking the very most of post war tube type radios do indeed receive FM stations. And if it doesn't, a good share of these radios have at least a record player input which can easily be put to line level by adding a pull-down resistor. And if both isn't the case, it's not too hard to identify the audio output pin in the radio reception tube section. You pull that specific tube and feed your audio directly into the acceptor of that tube socket. But be aware, tubes work at high voltages. Before doing that, a bit of self-education is absolutely necessary.

  • @ErickBuildsStuff
    @ErickBuildsStuff Рік тому +2

    6 years ago I did a similar project with my grandpa’s Phillips vaccum tube radio. It has 6 vacuum tubes and takes 2min to completely turn on to heat. Once the vacuum tubes are heated, it outputs the perfect music. Since AM and MW are not there anymore, it has a special button. With a mono input, it works just brilliant with new system. Plugged in the Bluetooth/fm audio board output using banana plugs and Utes perfect. I didn’t remove original circuit. Also your radio doesn’t have the special knobs like mine does. Pulling right knob gives control of bass and pushing to gives treble control. Left know is for turning on and volume control. I restored it and just used 3 times and kept it as a museum piece.

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest Рік тому +1

      Don't know where you live but am is very much still there, just not as busy as in the past. Even long wave still has stations on a good day.

  • @SonoSooS
    @SonoSooS Рік тому +18

    5:58 By the looks of it, it's a PCM51xx breakout board (although mine looks flipped), and if I'm correct, then you forgot to tie the SCK pin to GND! SCK is the System ClocK input, but you can tie it to GND for the internal PLL to activate, and it should support 44100Hz and 48000Hz sample rates in this mode (other modes need SCK generation, it's in the datasheet). Also the output of this chip is line-level (1kOhm), so you need an amplifier to drive anything audible out of it.

  • @brunselltorp
    @brunselltorp Рік тому +102

    nice project. =) i personally would have used the existing buttons on the radio to change station and enable bluetooth to keep the look vintage. the touch screen also works tho.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +8

      Also possible ;-)

    • @LakeCityPulse
      @LakeCityPulse Рік тому +4

      I used the existing buttons on my old juke box to interface with a raspberry pi. I used a simple USB keyboard adapter wired to the old buttons.

    • @TheZimberto
      @TheZimberto Рік тому +2

      Yeah, you could just have placed an old Android phone on top and used the radio as a speaker.

    • @acoucou
      @acoucou Рік тому

      @@greatscottlab Hello,would you like to disassembling a LiFePO4 battery?

  • @Tarodenaro
    @Tarodenaro Рік тому +13

    2:27 you can probably sell that PCL82/PCL86 tube (on the right) if it still works.
    The funny thing is that, most of them uses 12V/16V heater to turn on & 220V DC anode for both (!) tubes, you can just feed it line signal and wire it straight to the Trafo & Speaker since that is technically an integrated amplifier (tube version) on a budget for those era.
    If the circuit looks very simple... because it is; that tube (and something similar) are also being used widely on very old TV's.

    • @MultiWirth
      @MultiWirth Рік тому +5

      P tubes were used in televisions, not in radio receivers ;)
      This set uses an ECL86 for preamplification and to drive the speaker.
      PCL86 aren´t worth much, but ECL86 are.

  • @EzeePosseTV
    @EzeePosseTV Рік тому +25

    Interesting cool little project. Though I'm not sure how I feel about trashing a vintage tube radio. I personally would have restored the old radio part so you could dial in some radio stations the old way (if/when WiFi isn't available). Then integrated the WiFi radio along with a DAB and Bluetooth/BT device into the cabinet along with the touch screen. I'm working on a project of adding bluetooth/BT to the amplifier of my separates HiFi system by upcycling a broken BT headphones set, the physical headset frame and ear cups are broken but the electronics are still in perfect condition.

    • @syed_mamoon99
      @syed_mamoon99 Рік тому

      Preferably it would be a good idea to look for a AM/FM/DAB tuner chip and add it to the circuitry.

    • @billn2647
      @billn2647 Рік тому +2

      He probably could've even powered the newer electronics from tapping off of the heater winding on the power transformer and rectifying/filtering it.

  • @emilalmberg1096
    @emilalmberg1096 Рік тому +23

    This hurt me to see, all you need to do is replace all the paper type capacitors and the few electrolytes that are there.
    Then it works for sure.
    You connect your internet radio to the gramophone input.
    There is no reason to throw away old electronics.

  • @eskanderx1027
    @eskanderx1027 Рік тому +34

    Great stuff, Scott!
    But those 5 old buttons on the radio made me wonder if you could use them for choosing each station?
    This will also keep the authentic look, with no touchscreen ,which I'm sure will be useful in some other project).

    • @msmith2961
      @msmith2961 Рік тому +6

      Yes! Why have 5 unused buttons, implement an LCD, then restrict the radio station selection to 5 touch buttons?!

    • @DavidSprings
      @DavidSprings Рік тому +1

      @@msmith2961 When I did mine in an old bakelite radio, I used two buttons for previous/next station, then had 3 left for presets.

    • @leopoldomolina1664
      @leopoldomolina1664 Рік тому +3

      Actually the touchscreen makes it ugly now :P

  • @barrymayson2492
    @barrymayson2492 Рік тому +4

    I did a very similar system but used to send some old time radio recordings to the radio it even sounded like it was back in the 1940s. I still used the valve amplifier for the sound output which gave it a nice warm sound. Thanks for your time and work.

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk Рік тому +19

    I feel Mr. Carlson cringing at the sight of a vintage tube radio being torn apart.

  • @qwertykeyboard5901
    @qwertykeyboard5901 Рік тому +2

    Old radios are AWESOME! Some of the best being from the 70s to 90s.
    Namely: Good sound quality and good performance.

    • @thatredkite8310
      @thatredkite8310 Рік тому +4

      that's why he removed the good quality parts and replaced them with shit

  • @MultiWirth
    @MultiWirth Рік тому +32

    While i like the general idea of making something useful of old stuff rather than throwing it away, i honestly don´t really like it how the internals got ripped apart like this.
    You did an great job anyways but i don´t like the idea of destroying something like this, which on it´s own would be worth a project on doing a restoration of.
    I mean sure it´s just an old radio but it would´ve been much much nicer to see it properly repaired and working again because FM bands are still useable and there´s nothing more pleasant than an tube radio, which outperforms most modern FM radios in receiption quality and sensitivity.
    You could then still add bluetooth or internet radio through the TA port (basically a line in) and have all the modern features, but keep the rest of it alive and working.
    There would´ve been ways to grab one of the internal voltages to power such addons even.

    • @petraspetraitis3355
      @petraspetraitis3355 Рік тому +3

      I get what you are saying . But it´s not "just an old radio" . It's a dream find .

  • @a1nelson
    @a1nelson Рік тому +5

    That radio may be a bit older than you think. I have a 1960 Blaupunkt radio that could be this Grundig’s fraternal twin sister. If so, they’d both be 63 years old. I really like radios of this period and have three in my collection. Great find, Great Scott!

  • @FaizanKhan-iq3yd
    @FaizanKhan-iq3yd Рік тому +60

    Was it possible to integrate the white buttons for ESP's GPIO input for channel selection and not using touchscreen at all? This would make the radio completely in its original form which in my opinion is a much 'cooler' choice

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +5

      Surely possible.

    • @rudie2902
      @rudie2902 Рік тому +9

      Would even be better to use the standard dial and round station selector wheel (on right hand side of the station dial) to select the internet stations. Also it is a pity to not use the original valve amplifier.
      As a radio collector I am not in favour of these modifications. You can instead restore the radio and use the record player input to connect a blue tooth receiver into. In that case the original radio is preserved.

    • @FaizanKhan-iq3yd
      @FaizanKhan-iq3yd Рік тому

      @@rudie2902 But it was a variable capacitor. How would you decode capacitive values to something digital? I am not sure if any aftermarket potentiometer could fit nicely in there

    • @phenyl22
      @phenyl22 Рік тому

      @@FaizanKhan-iq3yd There are capacitance to digital converters, You'd need to check the range they work on vs the range of your variable capacitor in the data sheet tho.

    • @rudie2902
      @rudie2902 Рік тому +2

      @@FaizanKhan-iq3yd Scott is replacing everything so the variable capacitor can be either replaced by or connected to a Rotary Encoder.

  • @DumahBrazorf
    @DumahBrazorf Рік тому +7

    Every time someone rip out the guts of an old radio to fill it with modern silicon chips a Glasslinger dies.

  • @versedbridge4007
    @versedbridge4007 Рік тому +3

    Maybe should’ve tried to get the old chassis going again, and fed the audio into to the existing circuitry.. just my thoughts though. Those radios are usually simple to repair, and replacement tubes for those are cheap.

  • @IgnacyG1998
    @IgnacyG1998 Рік тому +4

    What a shame. This radio was in good condition, probably only needed about 8 capacitors replaced to work reliably again, and had a factory audio input. If you're attaching an external box to it you could've just put everything in the box and kept the radio original, or at the very least left the original electronics inside and just hooked up the speaker to them new parts in the box.

    • @IgnacyG1998
      @IgnacyG1998 Рік тому

      I hope you're not throwing the parts away though, some people (like me) could definitely make use of those tubes, coils and transformers!

  • @calamity3457
    @calamity3457 Рік тому +11

    I worked with STM Microcontrollers in college, and I have to say, I quite like them personally. Kudos for that. Supposedly some of the more "advanced" STM microcontrollers come with I2S built in, but I don't think they come with WiFi/BT though.
    Again, I could be wrong on both of those.

    • @ShahZahid
      @ShahZahid Рік тому +3

      +1 on this STM is honestly the go to if you are doing any kind of serious projects, or commercial/ industrial stuff, the esp microcontrollers have some issues, timing issues and over all not as diverse and supported as STMs, this is one of the reasons why drone flight controllers are based around STM chips, also yes some STM chips have i2s, pio etc but im not sure about wireless communication

  • @lukeraimondi7117
    @lukeraimondi7117 Рік тому +58

    Not a big fan of the touch screen, but otherwise a fantastic build. I've been thinking about what to do with my grandfathers old CB radio

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +7

      Go for it :-)

    • @Veso266
      @Veso266 Рік тому +5

      Dont you dare trash the CB radio
      Rememember if disaster struck, internet will not work, while you could always call for help on your CB radio

    • @petraspetraitis3355
      @petraspetraitis3355 Рік тому

      @Vesso266 eye see it's one of us eh. But you are right. About that.

  • @user-vn9ld2ce1s
    @user-vn9ld2ce1s Рік тому +4

    The LCD setup seems a bit overengineered, you could literally use 5 buttons and print a nice label for them. You wouldn't need a separate board for driving the display, the esp32 and the i2s DAC would be the whole digital electronics you'd need.

  • @Sohighmon
    @Sohighmon Рік тому +3

    Love this! One alternative to a touchscreen could be using an LED matrix behind the fabric part of the speaker to display text / simple graphics. The tricky part would be doing it in a way that doesn't muffle the sound too much.

  • @helmutheller1538
    @helmutheller1538 Рік тому +3

    Uhh, disappointment 😞
    Using at least that built-in tube audio amplifier instead of your 20W transistor amp would have been so nice! Breaks my heart! You had all the parts you needed already in the radio, sigh.
    Using the 5 switches as station keys would have been nice. And you could have used a Web-interface via WiFi to change the channels that are on those station switches.
    I retro-fitted an even older radio from 1939, made by Körting, with a bluetooth receiver (from broken wireless headphones), feeding the analog audio to the phono input of the radio. All I needed was a small audio transformer to match the impedance and the audio voltage level. Sounds great!

  • @lOow01
    @lOow01 Рік тому +6

    I really liked this channel in the past. But nowdays I feel that doing it for views killed the couriosity and endurance of Great Scott. You never given up on someting what come into your mind and always find a solution on it. It become that typical "I bought 4 different module and soldered them together and than I uploaded a code what I found online". I really want the old Great Scott back, who's videos was exciting and people can learn someting.

  • @sincerelyyours7538
    @sincerelyyours7538 Рік тому +11

    Interesting, but also sad. That was a fine old Grundig radio in quite good condition as restore subjects go. Though I understand the motivation to create something modern and unique out of something old and worn out, in my opinion one should first restore a vintage radio to work as it did when new, then add some new circuits to modernize its capabilities. That way you retain the best of both worlds, the old and the new, without trampling on the history that made the modern circuits possible. You can always remove the added circuits later and return the radio to its original function if you decide the mods were not to your liking, but once you destroy the old circuitry, its gone forever.

  • @derisis13
    @derisis13 Рік тому +13

    Honestly, after scrapping Bluetooth Volumio on an old raspberry pi (1B or 2B) would have been so much more functionality for around the same cost even if you need an external wifi dongle (because the pi could take over the LCD functionality as well). If bluetooth worked, and you don't want playback with DLNA or from network shares then this might be a better call.

    • @c5e3
      @c5e3 Рік тому

      i will never get the point of people using raspberry pis instead of microcontrollers. you don't need a full linux os on an sd card, than can corrupt for such a simple project. and who wants to have a radio, that needs to boot for longer than a blink of an eye?

    • @derisis13
      @derisis13 Рік тому

      @@c5e3 because if you need more than two of networking (with multiple application layer protocols), GUI, file systems, multitasking, USB host, it's much harder to integrate these tasks on a microcontroller (even though all of them are feasible on their own). In linux, ready solutions are installed by a package manager.
      Also hardware accelerators are often exclusive to microprocessors, and especially when dealing with video they make a big difference.
      And in this case, volumio is a readily available product, that has a community and some level of support, with much more functionality that you may or may not use.

  • @ronsonwagner9401
    @ronsonwagner9401 Рік тому +2

    This was a great watch, but I was really hoping you would be able to get the Bluetooth function working (I'm sure you were too), and I was hoping maybe you would put some non-copyright music on a local computer and broadcast it to the radio so we could hear it. This gives me a great idea for an old radio that I have. I will probably try to figure out how to use it with Spotify connect and a small three or four line display with song title on it, as I don't usually listen to traditional or Internet radio stations.

  • @frogandspanner
    @frogandspanner Рік тому +7

    You cruel beast!
    When I was about your age I took apart an old valve Roberts Radio and transplanted a veroboard circuit with single chip fm receiver. I have recently been restoring it to its original condition.
    You should have sent it to Dave Tipton.

    • @bernhardm9475
      @bernhardm9475 Рік тому +2

      ... And perhaps learn from Dave Tipton. He would have had it running in little time.

  • @alejandro241984
    @alejandro241984 Рік тому +8

    Awesome project! Why didn't you use the original valve amp? Its a very good amplifier and it should solve the problem using another amplifier. Also, as equal as others, the original buttons are perfect to use without a touchscreen. A screen is good to show which station is playing.

  • @MADPNDA
    @MADPNDA Рік тому +2

    Thanks for including the failure and how you chose to move forward from it! Too many projects never get finished because someone gets stuck on one library or microcontroller or something not working as expected.

  • @LinusJohansson-yu7cy
    @LinusJohansson-yu7cy Рік тому +17

    R.I.P. old radio. Survived for 60+ years, slaughtered in minutes and will end up on a landfill in 5 years when the Bluetooth thing breaks or becomes obsolete. 😔
    A real horror show to watch.

  • @KevinDC5
    @KevinDC5 Рік тому +9

    My dad has an old GE radio that’s a lovely half round “toaster” shape and I’ve been thinking of a resto-mod just like this! Amazing work as always-KW in Texas

  • @swp466
    @swp466 Рік тому +5

    Looks like a fun project! But, that's not MDF -- it's tempered hardboard (aka Masonite). They're similar but different.

  • @Manu-nr1yt
    @Manu-nr1yt Рік тому +4

    Would have been nicer if you managed to reuse the tube amplifier.

  • @adrianrevill7686
    @adrianrevill7686 Рік тому +39

    It is heart breaking to see that vintage radio being destroyed.

    • @IgnacyG1998
      @IgnacyG1998 Рік тому +9

      Yeah, Great Scott got me into electronics and now I mostly repair vintage radios and TVs - seeing him ruin this antique and encouraging others in comments to do the same just breaks my heart.

    • @KixPanganiban
      @KixPanganiban Рік тому +6

      I personally love seeing new life breathed into old electronic shells instead of letting them fester in the trash untouched or put up as non-functional antique displays, but that may just be me

    • @fontenbleau
      @fontenbleau Рік тому

      Destroy! 😈

    • @beekeeper8474
      @beekeeper8474 Рік тому

      ​@@KixPanganiban I have old radios they all have Bluetooth but I don't kill the old electronics.

  • @Lew114
    @Lew114 Рік тому

    I have an old vacuum tube radio similar to yours that I inherited from my grandfather. It still works.

  • @astrogerard
    @astrogerard Рік тому +21

    Nice video but I'm sorry to see instead of increasing the value of the old radio times 10 you have decreased the value by 10. Destroying the inside of the old radio was painfull to see.

    • @mandarin1257
      @mandarin1257 7 місяців тому

      I agree with you in principle, the old electronics is very cool. But I understand why he did this, in many places there aren't any AM stations left, or the ones that are are weak or don't broadcast anything interesting.

  • @silverdragonheart
    @silverdragonheart Рік тому +1

    I remember these old radios from when I was a kid back in the 70s, I just looked it up and this model was made between 1960-1964 so a bit older than me...

  • @UltraUltaderdritte
    @UltraUltaderdritte Рік тому +18

    20W is quite a lot compared to the tube amplifier which probably had less than 5W output power. So be careful not to overdrive the old speaker.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel Рік тому +4

      Yea looking at the Tubes used id guess it was around 3w .
      And these old speakers realy dont like to be overdriven

    • @domi7007
      @domi7007 Рік тому +2

      That old tube amp maybe made 1-2 Watts. But since its only for the Kitchen, i doubt that its an actual issue...

  • @CraigHollabaugh
    @CraigHollabaugh Рік тому +4

    Just a suggestion, remove the touchscreen and use the radio's original tuning dial (read the variable capacitor) for channel selection. Thanks from Colorado.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому

      Haha that does sound like fun.

    • @CraigHollabaugh
      @CraigHollabaugh Рік тому

      @@greatscottlab It's in the pico-farad range and is fairly easy to do (and would make a wonderful GreatScott video). Or better yet, find another radio to modify.

    • @KofolaDealer
      @KofolaDealer Рік тому +4

      @@CraigHollabaugh NO please don't let him kill another radio

  • @deathventure
    @deathventure Рік тому +3

    As an aside, there are amplifiers that have built in bluetooth connection built in. I have a plan to do something similar, but I am building the enclosure as well. I have a low cost amplifier from Amazon (of course you can get them from Alibaba or any similar Chinese sourced site). Makes thing a little more simple.

  • @royshaft
    @royshaft Рік тому +2

    Don’t forget the lovely smell these old radios used to make .
    I had one in the 80’s , smelled like warm Bakelite and pleasant oily dust .

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +1

      Really? I think my one didn't have a particular smell.

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest Рік тому +2

      @@greatscottlab He means tubes coated with a layer of nicotine stain and dust. But you ripped that out so that's gone....

  • @VeniceInventors
    @VeniceInventors Рік тому +1

    There are many things lots of us think could have been done differently, and I think that's the point of this video, to inspire the viewers. if the radio had been made perfect, restoring and keeping the original parts while discreetly adding modern features, there wouldn't be any improvement left to ponder and imagine.

  • @orpheustelos
    @orpheustelos Рік тому +15

    I think the remaining dial can be replace with a rotary switch for channel selection

    • @Teknopottu
      @Teknopottu Рік тому +2

      And then you could hide the hideous touchscreen behind the radio or fridge.
      Sorry, had to say it. Hopefully he did not screw it on the beautiful woodframe.

  • @OhHeyTrevorFlowers
    @OhHeyTrevorFlowers Рік тому +18

    While I appreciate that some people prefer to use old hardware and there may have been a way to maintain the old electronics, there are many more old devices than there are people who want to use old devices. It’s great to see someone reusing the parts that they care about.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for saying that :-)

    • @Prophes0r
      @Prophes0r Рік тому +12

      He destroyed a working radio and ruined the beautifully aged case...
      He likes the "old" look, just not enough to keep it, so he blobbed a bunch of cheap paint on it?
      The electronics are mildly interesting, but the radio case part is a horror movie...

    • @OhHeyTrevorFlowers
      @OhHeyTrevorFlowers Рік тому

      That's how culture and invention have always worked. We cherry-pick from the remains of the past and remix them for today. He didn't steal the radio from someone making use of it, he took it from gathering dust and being useless and reused the parts he liked. As a species we'd be stuck in amber if not for this kind of work.

  • @TechsScience
    @TechsScience Рік тому +6

    It would be better if you had restored the old radio

  • @Corummo
    @Corummo Рік тому +3

    Amazing project, except for the added touchscreen. IMHO it collides with the retro philosophy which has driven you away from the modern looks of internet radios.
    I'd suggest to implement a web browser interface instead. Hidden but accessible by any computer and smartphone in the house.
    Anyway, nice job. As usual! :)
    EDIT: and the tuning knob could be replaced by a rotary encoder, so to cycle along a list of stations of your choice. ;)

  • @nilsom200
    @nilsom200 Рік тому

    I recently recreated your idea of a Internet and Bluetooth Radio. Thanks for the good base to build on.
    The bluetooth function is also working great for me.

  • @ron6607
    @ron6607 Рік тому +2

    This will make Mr. Carlson sad. Great video! Thank you!

  • @nalinux
    @nalinux Рік тому

    I modified an old 1970 radio, and working on a 1946 now.
    The only mod is a Bluetooth receiver module, with a switch on the back to choose between original radio and BT.
    So no dramatical modification, and easily reversed if needed.

  • @kwacz
    @kwacz Рік тому +1

    You should have took your project and put it inside the radio and used the radios tube amp to amplify and drive the speaker. There are many sources out there that tell you how to add a line level input to the radio.
    Its a shame to see a vintage radio gutted and replaced with modern electronic crap. You know they dont make there anymore and the amps in these are actually really good.

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 Рік тому

    Dude! 😍
    the most I've done was gut an old console TV and fitted a cheap LCD TV in it, then audio-out to an amp to power its speakers.

  • @MikesAllotment
    @MikesAllotment Рік тому +22

    Nice re-furb & use of the ESP32, but personally I would have used the original white buttons as the channel selectors, and/or replace the original volume control(s) with rotary encoders to control channels and/or switch between Wifi streaming and bluetooth - no need for the separate external touch screen. Nice idea though, and I agree it's much nicer than a new/modern radio 👍

  • @HaikuGuy
    @HaikuGuy Рік тому +3

    Mr. Carlson has left the chat

  • @matthewcole4053
    @matthewcole4053 Рік тому

    If you have an android phone you can enter developer mode and switch between various bluetooth standards, none are necessarily better than the others, some standards just work better with certain devices. I've used this method more than once to fix pairing issues with stuff like wireless headphones and IoT devices.

  • @BerthaTurtleOfficial
    @BerthaTurtleOfficial Рік тому

    I make all kinds of these from flea market and thrift store finds. I then upgrade and sell them at craft fairs, festivals, and flea markets. People love them.

  • @Flying0Dismount
    @Flying0Dismount Рік тому +4

    It would have been nice if you found a way to keep the tube audio amplifier from the original radio instead of just gutting it and just keeping the chassis... The tube amp would probably sound better than a cheap Aliexpress class D lego board...

  • @Adam-cp1dl
    @Adam-cp1dl Рік тому

    Just a tip for future projects if you are going to stain them to get a smooth even stain finish use a pre-stain form like minwax it works wonders on cheap wood and MDF.

  • @murtadhaalkenani3876
    @murtadhaalkenani3876 10 місяців тому

    Genius work! my dream is to be that professional.

  • @CreepebrineMC
    @CreepebrineMC Рік тому +2

    Seems like a great project for me.
    Short backstory: until a few weeks ago I used to listen to MW Radio on my old 1978 GDR (RFT) Radio at nighttime, but the station shut down its MW transmitters. Luckily you can still listen to it via Internet.
    So, it might be possible to still listen to this station using this radio, keeping the aesthetic but unfortunately taking away the excitement of listening to a Station 1000s of kms away..

  • @DrHouse-zs9eb
    @DrHouse-zs9eb Рік тому +1

    Big thumbs up for including the fails.

  • @ravendrow83
    @ravendrow83 Рік тому +5

    Only change i would have made is to keep the tube amp that was originally in the radio

  • @AndersEinarHilden
    @AndersEinarHilden Рік тому +11

    I really like re-using the old style cabinet. A couple of comments though. Did you really need the AC supply? Could you just have used a USB-C PD board and left the AC part to the external power supply? The touch screen module seemed awfully complex and I assume, pricey. Is there a reason you used it and not maybe a cheaper esp32 with a screen? (edit: actually, looking at mouser, the screen was surprisingly cheap, atleast for that size). Could the touchscreen have been mounted and designed like the old frequency chart in the middle of the radio body, between the dials?

    • @a1nelson
      @a1nelson Рік тому +1

      Totally agree! USB-C (>5V 500mA) can be a challenge to do by hand, but with the cheap PD boards, which offer a number of voltages (5, 9, 20, etc.), they’ve become my first choice for all new projects. Plus, if you use a quality power block (Apple ones are way overpriced, but well made) the output can be much cleaner than the average external brick or wart.

  • @tormenmashi_
    @tormenmashi_ Рік тому +1

    This is a cool project and I wonder if there's a possibility of revisiting this in the future and utilizing the tubes for amplification

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ Рік тому +1

    there are many BT modules that run on 5V and output analog audio, all you would need is a switch of which you have many spots available.

  • @sofyankurniawan
    @sofyankurniawan Рік тому +1

    Great project, the old variable capacitor is a rare item, also tube. And it still used by many RF hobiest, at least in here, Indonesia.
    I would like to see, if you want to build a project with these old components.

  • @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 Рік тому +2

    The ESP32-A1S would be perfect for this build and I have one I’m using for a DIY PolySynth if you get the Audio Development Board with ESP 8388 audio codec, it will work flawlessly.

  • @d.a.n.
    @d.a.n. Рік тому +1

    Possibly a video idea that relates to the Bluetooth aspect of this project; Looking at how those small adapters for older cars (which feature radio only without aux or Bluetooth) that plugs into the analogue aux port and power, and allows you to connect to it via Bluetooth and transmits the audio on a small low power radio for the car to receive, essentially a Bluetooth to radio signal converter. Obviously your radio couldn't make use of it as is, but if you wanted to explore Bluetooth functionality a 'DIY or Buy" video would have parts that could integrate with yours.
    Thanks for the video and all the content!

    • @a1nelson
      @a1nelson Рік тому

      Great idea. I did a car stereo conversion where I (mostly) removed the cassette tape player and replaced it with a Bluetooth receiver. It was a bit challenging, but fun and, of course, useful.

  • @ewen832
    @ewen832 Рік тому

    Grundig, a blast from the past. Our first colour TV was a Grundig. It was delivered on a summer Thursday night and we watched “The Invisible Man” TV show with David McCallum. If memory recalls it was the episode he overtook a school bus and was put in the local sheriff’s jail. After that it was Top of the Pops. We thought it was a disco in our living room with all the flashing coloured lights. How young we were.

  • @grindfi
    @grindfi Рік тому

    pro tip! use allpurpose cleaner moist towels to clean old stuff! smells great!

  • @U_Geek
    @U_Geek Рік тому +1

    Cool project it kinda inspires me to film making and programming my headphone's bluetooth circuit after all if it fails I would atleast get something out of it.
    The design has so many new rhings I never used before that it's making me nervous. It uses an NRF52832 soc as the bluetooth module and a 24bit dac IC. It also has 3 battery managment ICs(protection,charge,buck converter) and if this wasn't enough I decided to make the pcb at home since I managed to fit everything on 1 side...

  • @rodneysmith1750
    @rodneysmith1750 Рік тому

    Cool idea and video, I appreciate refurbishing older gadgets, and I always have my eyes open for ideas, thanks for sharing!

  • @rogerclarke7407
    @rogerclarke7407 Рік тому +1

    That looks more like a 60 year old radio. By 1972 almost everything that I remember was solid state and plastic, or the high quality stuff was metal.

  • @tophlaw4274
    @tophlaw4274 Рік тому +4

    Personally I would've kept the retro look & used the physical buttons as @(Evny Zislis) pointed out in their comment or inset the display between the two dials (even if it protruded) to keep the form factor.
    That said, it's still a pretty cool little project. I wish I can find an old radio like that someday & do something like this myself.
    Cheers & looking forward to your next adventure.

  • @05a02b
    @05a02b Рік тому

    Thank you for this video! I been meaning to do something similar for quite some time now, now I definitely have no more excuses to do it :D

    • @bzuidgeest
      @bzuidgeest Рік тому +2

      Do better, repair the radio and just add a Bluetooth module to the line in.

  • @reganaudiochannel
    @reganaudiochannel Рік тому +1

    I hope the next content will be about making a radio using a vacuum tube

  • @ivankirola2707
    @ivankirola2707 Рік тому +3

    Basically you destoyed it :)

  • @dominiksalata4234
    @dominiksalata4234 Рік тому

    I Love the look of this Build.

  • @MrRvdbeek
    @MrRvdbeek Рік тому

    Love this old school radio
    And interesting that you can’t get the right Bluetooth module in. There are enough that will work. Maybe next time 😊

  • @Deserthacker
    @Deserthacker Рік тому

    Wow, that one second video of the variable capacitor got me the click moment of how the MEM gyros which measure capacitance work. Seeing it in 3d is easier to understand for me

  • @lawrencerubanka7087
    @lawrencerubanka7087 Рік тому +1

    I always enjoy your videos. I just don't like the touch screen. I would have preferred a rotary encoder running off the original tuning knob and simple indicators in the tuning dial. If you insist on graphics, maybe the light emitting display behind a translucent replacement of the old tuning panel. Good idea, but not the best execution.

  • @smoothchills3072
    @smoothchills3072 Рік тому

    A wooden color theme or an actual wood picture wallpaper for the touchscreen background would pair nicely with the vintage radio aesthetic!

  • @waltermeerschaert
    @waltermeerschaert Рік тому +6

    Could you have used the pushbuttons on the front to change the channels? Skip the screen altogether?

  • @rosettenzerrer
    @rosettenzerrer Рік тому +3

    Congrats on killing a vintage piece of radio equipment. Why not refurbish the electronics with new caps and maybe rectifier and use as an amplifier for the internetradio? Why not use the exisiting switches for dialing the stations?

  • @ianbertenshaw4350
    @ianbertenshaw4350 Рік тому +2

    Cool build!
    You can get amp modules that have built in Bluetooth and SD car reader, you could use the ESP to control this via micro relays as the amps are operated using tactile switches, so the relay just replaces the switch. All you would be doing is replacing these switches with something the ESP can operate and via its i/o pins and the touch screen interface would be the same, but the code would need a little modification. This would give you internet radio, Bluetooth and an MP3 player all in one. You still need the converter that changes the digital output of the ESP32 to analogue audio - this is fed to the amp via the aux input jack on the amp module. You have to be careful with some of the converter modules as they are meant for headphone output only, but some can be easily modified to suit output to amplifier.

  • @crono331
    @crono331 Рік тому +2

    Mr. Carlson will be looking for you...

  • @ladyattis
    @ladyattis Рік тому

    You should see if anyone wants the vacuum tube if it's working. I can understand not wanting to see the old devices since high voltage is very dangerous and most folks don't have the necessary equipment like an isolated power supply to bring up the vacuum tube system up slowly to ensure everything is working. Plus, you got the issue with potential failure points like the power transformer which often can't be replaced so you're forced to do bodge work (again very dangerous when powered up after an attempted fix) and other parts like the IF transformers (not as dangerous but a real pain to get right, see MrCarlson's lab restoration videos for how complicated it can be).

  • @ANANTHASANKAR_UA
    @ANANTHASANKAR_UA Рік тому

    I have watched two times this video,Its great ❤️I'm also Vintage Radio lover ☺️...If RTC is added with this project we can automatically trigger & switch to our favourite radio station shows automatically 👍

  • @outaspaceman
    @outaspaceman Рік тому

    I watch 3 other YT channel’s dedicated to restoring valve radios..
    I can hear their screams of horror…😂👍

  • @st3althyone
    @st3althyone Рік тому +8

    No offense, but you butchered a perfectly good antique radio when you could’ve used a lot more of it instead of gutting it. You could’ve easily added the remaining modules to the existing hardware.

  • @marijndegezelle3819
    @marijndegezelle3819 Рік тому +1

    Nice project but I had preferred the old radio electronics to come back to live! Old analog radios is an amazing world, with today’s electronics advance they could be improve a lot in quality and features.
    You just ca made the radio work like original and and put your input in the TA/TB input de 5 pin din socket so you have young and old working toghter that how i do it whit my collection of radio's then you only need a I2P dac in place of an amp

  • @bogdanmarinescu78
    @bogdanmarinescu78 Рік тому +15

    Nice video as always, but I would have used the original buttons, as someone suggested. Plus, the STM32+ESP32 combo is overkill for this project. The ESP32 would've been able to do this on its own with an external touch display, be it over SPI or even a Nextion if you didn't feel like doing too much work.

  • @Elusive_Cure
    @Elusive_Cure Рік тому

    Nice one, i've built a media server out of a Graetz radio from 1958, an i5 3020 dell, a 13" led with an aliexpress lvds kit, amplifier, the whole nine yards. 🤜🤛 My goal was to use already available hardware destined to be recycled, so it didn't cost me a penny. I've another Siemens radio similar to the one on this video to be used on another project.

  • @TrasteIAm
    @TrasteIAm Рік тому +1

    If you feel you need to touch screen for just a selection between 5 stations, and not use the buttons already on the radio, you could have at least made it wireless so you wouldn't need that cable. :)

  • @Ni1996Ki
    @Ni1996Ki Рік тому

    I built the same thing for starters. I bought an old radio, cleaned it, repainted it, put 5V leds inside and an Alexa.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 Рік тому +2

    Personally, I would have just cleaned it, but not refinished it or anything -- otherwise I'd just have made a replica enclosure. I also would have not had the touch screen, and used all the original interface hardware -- just to make it look and feel like it still is just an old radio