Have I missed an announcement that you guys moved to another channel, or did the MSrefresh show silently cease? I've been visiting this channel a number of times in the last months suspecting my youtube notification on this channel was broken. Hope this wasn't the last video ever, although if it did then you ended with a really good one. Just to say that I've really enjoyed watching your quality videos the humour, personal connection and excellent picks of relevant topics.
One of the primary reason I use dataverse over sharepoint in many projects is the ability to package the tables together with the apps and flows in solutions. Also being able to manage the user access in one place without having to worry about sharepoint permissions as well
@37:20 - If Copilot is embedded in the app for modifications, what will designers do??? OMG - If it is embedded, what can those (I know what I am doing, but do not really no/lo coders) do????
We're reluctantly moving from Lists to Dataverse as DB backend, (swallowing the license cost) for some apps. Primary reasons are security and deployability. We find ourselves often in a security by obscurity situation, where other users records are hidden in the app view but can access all data by accessing the SP list URL directly. Also Dataverse allows for easy management of tables e.g. extra columns when deploying using pipelines between Dev, test and production environments. This is quite a hassle with Lists as the DB exists and outside the solutions context.
RE: Power Pages not having Copilot - why????? 🤷🏽♀ why not??? All the other tools do whether it is of value or not. (I am pulling out my copy of Wall-E and watching it again. I am also going to let Disnry know that it is time for Wall-E 2)
Data verse for teams is the ne that is limited to 1 million rows in your app. Not to say you cannot archive off old data elsewhere and leave your app running only what it needs to. If in fact you can handle the minimal security roles and running you app in Teams only. It’s a good way to get into Dataverse. Performance is better. The full data verse is 4TB for data per environment.
Technically, it's a capacity limit (2 GB) which (some page I can't find right now says) equates to about 1,000,0000 rows. If you've got many tables or many columns per table, you might hit 2 GB faster.
@@cvkealey that's correct it 1 million rows or 2GB whichever comes first. You can then simply upgrade to full Dataverse but then you hit the premium licensing for every user. Having the per user licensing is ultimately where most companies will end up. It is having the critical mass of large enough projects that will push people that way. I must say that having those licenses removed a lot of stress it is up to each organisation to make sure they get ROI on that.
I like the “know art when I see it “ comment but I think it was originally a comment made by a politician regarding porn. Excellent adaptation on your part.🎉
I'm interested to see what is next for SharePoint. If you look at how Loop handles tables, it makes Sharepoint lists look primitive in comparison (and SharePoint, oddly enough, does not support Loop components in any way at the moment). In addition, considering SharePoint's lack of flexibility, surprising lack of new and evolving web parts, and the lingering classic interface elements, it really is time for an update.
Agree. I suspect some of those concerns will be addressed in May. techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-sharepoint-blog/what-s-next-for-sharepoint/ba-p/3776866
I tried to use Dataverse to spin up a relational database and build an app on top of it. It was a painful experience. My opinion - they should merge it with Lists and enable a UX like Airtable. At the moment it's a mess.
What’s up folks . Almost 2 months up . Waiting for your next video ..
Hey guys what’s going on. Haven’t heard from you in a while. Please don’t tell me that you have been replaced by ChatGBT and Microsoft Co-Pilot!!!!!
Have I missed an announcement that you guys moved to another channel, or did the MSrefresh show silently cease? I've been visiting this channel a number of times in the last months suspecting my youtube notification on this channel was broken. Hope this wasn't the last video ever, although if it did then you ended with a really good one. Just to say that I've really enjoyed watching your quality videos the humour, personal connection and excellent picks of relevant topics.
One of the primary reason I use dataverse over sharepoint in many projects is the ability to package the tables together with the apps and flows in solutions. Also being able to manage the user access in one place without having to worry about sharepoint permissions as well
Item 1 seems pretty useful. Item 2 seems like a convenience (not a game changer). Am I misinterpreting?
@37:20 - If Copilot is embedded in the app for modifications, what will designers do??? OMG - If it is embedded, what can those (I know what I am doing, but do not really no/lo coders) do????
We're reluctantly moving from Lists to Dataverse as DB backend, (swallowing the license cost) for some apps. Primary reasons are security and deployability.
We find ourselves often in a security by obscurity situation, where other users records are hidden in the app view but can access all data by accessing the SP list URL directly.
Also Dataverse allows for easy management of tables e.g. extra columns when deploying using pipelines between Dev, test and production environments. This is quite a hassle with Lists as the DB exists and outside the solutions context.
RE: Power Pages not having Copilot - why????? 🤷🏽♀ why not??? All the other tools do whether it is of value or not. (I am pulling out my copy of Wall-E and watching it again. I am also going to let Disnry know that it is time for Wall-E 2)
Ok Matt and Sean, Keep the swag close 'cause I am coming to Vegas. I love laptop stickers!(Hint..hint)
Data verse for teams is the ne that is limited to 1 million rows in your app. Not to say you cannot archive off old data elsewhere and leave your app running only what it needs to. If in fact you can handle the minimal security roles and running you app in Teams only. It’s a good way to get into Dataverse. Performance is better. The full data verse is 4TB for data per environment.
That's good to know, thanks for correcting me on that!
Technically, it's a capacity limit (2 GB) which (some page I can't find right now says) equates to about 1,000,0000 rows. If you've got many tables or many columns per table, you might hit 2 GB faster.
@@cvkealey that's correct it 1 million rows or 2GB whichever comes first.
You can then simply upgrade to full Dataverse but then you hit the premium licensing for every user.
Having the per user licensing is ultimately where most companies will end up. It is having the critical mass of large enough projects that will push people that way.
I must say that having those licenses removed a lot of stress it is up to each organisation to make sure they get ROI on that.
I like the “know art when I see it “ comment but I think it was originally a comment made by a politician regarding porn. Excellent adaptation on your part.🎉
RE: Dataverse - Give MS a break - after all they did spend 10B+ on this tech.
Is it possible to connect my excel sheet with dataverse and use that data in a power apps app?
I'm interested to see what is next for SharePoint. If you look at how Loop handles tables, it makes Sharepoint lists look primitive in comparison (and SharePoint, oddly enough, does not support Loop components in any way at the moment). In addition, considering SharePoint's lack of flexibility, surprising lack of new and evolving web parts, and the lingering classic interface elements, it really is time for an update.
Agree. I suspect some of those concerns will be addressed in May. techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-sharepoint-blog/what-s-next-for-sharepoint/ba-p/3776866
I tried to use Dataverse to spin up a relational database and build an app on top of it. It was a painful experience.
My opinion - they should merge it with Lists and enable a UX like Airtable.
At the moment it's a mess.