i mean, it is 8 years old. Never ever ever was i able to use a gpu for so long. Back in early 2000s a gpu would become irrelevant in just 2-3 years. Even if it still had some performance juice in it - a new version of directX would release and become a nail in the coffin
@@Nyarurin the only game I have issues loading is fortnite and pretty sure that's either down to my drive or cpu but once I get a pc with a better cpu I'll be going from a 1060 to a 5700xt
@@RandomGaminginHD No wonder why both Nvidia and AMD have basically given up on making very low-end display adapters as there's no point with doing so when APUs have come a long way.
Considering that on 2025 AMD will make an APU with 4070M like performance 4090 class performance won't be that far, maybe in the next 10 years? Or even less Thin and light or handheld market is really big right now
@@notificationguys5128ya but those ones are large as opposed to the ones in handhelds and mini PC right now. I'd say less than a decade from now before large ones hit 4090 performance and like 2 decades for the small ones
I like this kind of comparisons but people who watch them seem to believe APUs are getting closer to dedicated cards. They're not, they always perform about as well a 7 year old a mid-range card. In 2018, they performed better than the 7 year older GTX 460.
most youtubers seem to think "sponsored" means promotional content where they receive money to make the kind of video the sponsor is asking them to make... but the way youtube wants it, if you received anything of value, you're supposed to mark the video as paid promotion, even if the video is meant to be entirely unbiased.
Of course, laptop chips have better bining for efficiency and are more expensive, and mini PCs have lower volume thus higher prices. AMD should release a desktop APU based on the Ryzen 370 HX ASAP.
I got a Quadro P2000, which is basically a kneecapped 1060 and it'll play eSports titles just fine on our living room PC. My nephews use it for Minecraft whenever they visit.
Yep, we are there: iGPUs are comparable with popular and still in use medium range dGPUs. Next step will be targeting the 3060 range. That would be wild.
iGPUs catching up with dGPUs will always be cool, but the sad reality is that game requirements are increasing at a faster pace. So they will always be stuck at 1080p sub 60 FPS.
The technology to make insanely powerful APUs already exists and we see them in consoles. Thing is, if they do make them (PCs) like that, then no one (majority) would want to build from regular stand alone components.
GTX 10 Series will remain absolutely legendary...such a price to performance win on launch and even now. I don't see us getting back to this sweet spot unfortunately
dude, The GTX 1060 is a 2016 8y.o. hardware, if anything this comparison shows that there was barely ANY progress with games and hardware, and that overpriced CPUs have anemic iGPUs that while being "The Fastest" still sukk hard
It's strange seeing GTX 1060 at the bottom of the barrel now, being compared to iGPU's. I remember a time when it used to max out games at 1080p along the RX 480. Time to upgrade, indeed.
There is plenty of performance left on the table in this PC. The BIOS in these mini PC's has heaps of settings to increase the performance of the iGPU and the CPU especially the power draw of both the CPU and iGPU. ETA prime channel gets way better numbers at similar settings especially when using frame gen.. a lot of the time he doesn't use FSR but does enable frame gen and that alone would have it beating the 1060!! Not by tons but at least 10% and with FSR 3 and frame gen i've seen the 890m wipe the floor with the GTX 1060 and be closer to the 1080ti in most cases! Still this shows iGPUs are getting very strong and making dedicated GPUs less appealing which is a good thing unless you really want to have RTX but that's not a must have it's a nice to have!!
I agree on the power settings side but there are legitimate reasons for people not wanting to use frame gen, and benchmarking should be done purely with the actual capabilities of the gpu because not always will that be available and it gives a grong idea of the performance of the device. I love watching ETA's videos but for some time now it seems like he is just trying to sell a product rather than just testing
@joey_f4ke238 yes I agree with you that people need to know the raw potential on the chip I also agree that not everyone wants to use frame gen but the AMD FSR 3 and frame gen are actually pretty good and depending on how aggressive the FSR is mainly determines the picture quality. But watching ETA prime at 1440p using only frame gen still looks pretty good 🙂 it's very close to original but obviously not perfect but FSR 3 is good but like all scaling really kills the picture.. frame gen in some games where it wasn't coded in real well ya get some jitter but it's pretty rare based on what I have seen across a few different channels.. but my original point is for people like me that are not concerned about ray tracing and a small fidelity drop doesn't bother me so I'm happy to see great performance in a iGPU because i don't really have tons of $$ and if I can play new games without a extra $200 to $500 cost then I'm taking the 890m with AMDs FSR 3 and frame gen technology 🙂
As a previous SFF builder I love these mini PCs and that performance is impressive especially for 50w. Bit of a shame about the plastic case though, I'd like a nice Aluminium case at that price.
I really love the idea of having a mini PC that will run games among other things... but they will at least need to run on console-like chips with console-like prices to be considered. Without an iGPU on par to what's in PS5 Pro it is a waste of 1100$+
I feel as though the rising popularity in recent years of PC handhelds and integrated graphics has really helped cards like the GTX 1060 remain relevant all this time later. While you can’t jamb a 1060 into your Steam Deck, the reality of games running well enough on mobile hardware to enjoy AND people opting in larger enough numbers to play that way keep these oldies but goodies from being e-waste. I still have an i7-3770, GTX 1060 6GB for emulation and older/lighter PC gaming at 1080p, and I am often pleasantly surprised at how well it fares in even more modern titles. It’s like my PC version of a Series S or something. (My main rig is a 12700K paired with a RTX 3080 12GB, and boy does it generate HEAT in the summer time … so my “Series S” is a perfect PC for getting my fix when I don’t need the sauna.
It's amazing that integrated graphics have come this far! It's a shame that in order to get to that level you have to spend quite a bit of money compared to a conventional CPU + dGPU solution. However, for those that don't need the best iGPU out there there are quite a few very capable Ryzen powered mini PCs in the $300-400 range that will easily handle everyday tasks and decent gaming.
Upscaleing in Stalker 2 makes sense looking at the minimum requirements that call for a 1060 6GB/RX 580 8GB/Arc A750 for 1080p Low 30FPS useing TSR and comparable technologies.
When the cost comes down on this form factor it will become more desirable. Currently even at the discounted price there are higher/better performing laptops that have the added incentive of a screen. This would have been ideal for our children but I admit having built them both RX 7800xt desktop pcs with 1440p capable monitors for less than the price of the Minisform, they will get far more mileage out of their desktop pcs and have the ability to upgrade easily. Very nice micro pc with the major issue being at the price , you have no room for upgrades.
The VRAM usage according to Rivatuner is very low for some games (principally Red Dead Redemption 2). Did you increase the amount of dedicated iGPU VRAM in the BIOS? Some games are fine with requesting/allocating more for VRAM, but some titles don't play nicely with that and really need you to specify it manually. I don't use this chip specifically (I have the V3 Tablet with the 780M), but I specifically allocated 8GB to mine.
those are some impressive results from both GPUs. On the one side we have an iGPU capable of running modern titles at decent framerates. On the other side the 8 year old 1060 is still going strong after all the time.
The GTX-1060 was basically an RX-580/480 competitor, and the RX-570/470 was a bit slower than the RX-580/480...so, is it fair to say that the 890m is roughly an RX-570 in performance?
I remember when 680M catch up with gtx 1050 desktop, then later 780M say hi to gtx 1050ti. Now 890M is tickling gtx 1060. Haha.. Next, presumably, Strix Halo will show its fists to RTX 4060 ? And also Intel iGPU is getting stronger; next year would be interesting.
Any chance you could do some more tests in future power limiting the 890m to 10, 15 or 28w? Gives good points of comparison for people interested in lower power performance in handhelds.
People say iGPUs advanced a great deal to compare to mid-range cards. I say, dGPU evolution is in great stagnation. Discrete cards shamble forward like a boomer drunkard after a bottle or two, while integrated cards sprint the same way discretes used to in the 2000s.
The 890M is just a bit faster than the 780M, both averaging 15-20% slower than a 1060. Interesting to see it ahead in a couple titles. A 780M system is less than half these HX 370 units though, so it's a tough sell here.
G'day Random, Yeah I also don't get why the Laptop GPUs are now called AI*, especially when the the Desktop version of the same architecture is NOT AI* 8*00G but still uses R* 8*00G I love your "Current APU vs DGPU Performance Comparisons" to see how they are advancing. Seeing how good the 890M performs against the GTX1060 6GB it makes me sad thinking how Awesome R3 2200G/3200G & R5 2400G/3400G were & why can't have a R3 9400G 4c/4t 880M + R5 9400G 4c/8t 890M at about £100-£120 & £150-£170 as an entry to AM5. When you are gaming for fun on a tight budget why pay for Cores & Threads when you do not need all that CPU performance.
Considering GTX1060 is a mid range card from 8 years ago, I would say that I expected the best iGPU in the market to be better. Would love if there was APU with the power of R5 7600 and RTX 3050 6GB. Don't think I am asking much.
I have to admit, i don't really see the appeal of this Mini Pc's. I'd either buy/build a full size or sff PC with the ability to add a GPU easily or i'd buy a laptop with a dedicated GPU for less money than this. These mini pc's seem like they have the disadvantages of both and the advantages of neither.
50w max sounds quite amazing! Can you run an external GPU on this.. Was it on purpose to say the price in hundreds and not thousands. Guess It doesn't as much if you say it as ten hundred.. than the other.. Something I noticed. Good video though!
Still not even close to old budget cards. These IGP CPU/GPU are a waste of money imo unless you get one of these miniforum PC's for $200 or less and just have daily standard use.
me as a 1060 user: no no no no, wait wait wait wait"
😁
😂
Jus let it go bruh it's over
i mean, it is 8 years old. Never ever ever was i able to use a gpu for so long. Back in early 2000s a gpu would become irrelevant in just 2-3 years. Even if it still had some performance juice in it - a new version of directX would release and become a nail in the coffin
@@Nyarurin the only game I have issues loading is fortnite and pretty sure that's either down to my drive or cpu but once I get a pc with a better cpu I'll be going from a 1060 to a 5700xt
The fact that an iGPU is being compared to a still popular dGPU (the 1060 is ranked 12th on the Steam hardware survey) as a viable competitor is wild!
Wow... It's still ranked that high?
It shows how much of a legendary card the 1060 is@@slimal1
Just checked and it is! Top 15:
1st: RTX 3060
2nd: RTX 4060 Laptop GPU
3rd: RTX 4060
4th: GTX 1650
5th: RTX 2060
6th: RTX 4060 Ti
7th: RTX 3060 Ti
8th: RTX 3070
9th: GTX 1660 Super
10th: RTX 4070
11th: RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
12th: GTX 1060
13th: RTX 3050
14th: AMD Radeon Graphics
15th: Intel Iris Xe Graphics
15th: RTX 3080
*15th is a tie at 1.93%*
1060 is a ancient gpu ,and that thing cost more than 20 times more than a 1060
Only reason why rtx 3060 is popular is bc its mostly used for esports gaming, along with i5-12400f
It's crazy that it can run newer games at 60fps without upscaling
Yeah iGPUs have come a long way
@@RandomGaminginHD No wonder why both Nvidia and AMD have basically given up on making very low-end display adapters as there's no point with doing so when APUs have come a long way.
This is a quality Idea....I've wanted to see GTX780-Ti vs RX-780m, but this is basically an updated version of THAT match-up, but without the memes.
Haha I’ll have to try that at some point
1060 is better than 780ti, both in raw power but especially in newer games. Its slightly bettet than 980, while 970 is basically same as 780ti.
I can't wait for the day that iGPU will beat 4090 in terms of performance.
That would be so cool
not sure if I would be more amazed by that igpu or the normal gpus at that time
Considering that on 2025 AMD will make an APU with 4070M like performance
4090 class performance won't be that far, maybe in the next 10 years? Or even less
Thin and light or handheld market is really big right now
@@notificationguys5128ya but those ones are large as opposed to the ones in handhelds and mini PC right now.
I'd say less than a decade from now before large ones hit 4090 performance and like 2 decades for the small ones
Maybe in 2040
I like this kind of comparisons but people who watch them seem to believe APUs are getting closer to dedicated cards.
They're not, they always perform about as well a 7 year old a mid-range card. In 2018, they performed better than the 7 year older GTX 460.
appreciate the honest disclosure that you were sent this for free, it bothers me how often tech youtubers don't properly disclose stuff like that
most youtubers seem to think "sponsored" means promotional content where they receive money to make the kind of video the sponsor is asking them to make... but the way youtube wants it, if you received anything of value, you're supposed to mark the video as paid promotion, even if the video is meant to be entirely unbiased.
Only problem is that this mini pc cost me as much as a pre-built pc with i5-13400 + 4060 :O
Of course, laptop chips have better bining for efficiency and are more expensive, and mini PCs have lower volume thus higher prices.
AMD should release a desktop APU based on the Ryzen 370 HX ASAP.
@@rj7250a If their more recent apus are any indication, it will cost $400 and be equally as bad value as the mini-pc.
Paying the sff tax no thx
Good old 1060 6gb. Still relevant for budget gaming at 1080p. I just put one in a build of secondhand components for my daughter's first gaming rig.
Yeah people scoff at budget cards but if it's with not too intensive games they're perfect.
I'd say it's a bit dated by now, i'd rather a 1080TI.
I got a Quadro P2000, which is basically a kneecapped 1060 and it'll play eSports titles just fine on our living room PC. My nephews use it for Minecraft whenever they visit.
Rest easy, GTX 1060. You've earned it. A true GOAT.
For sure
one of the best cards i have ever had
and it was on top of the steam hardware statistics for many years
GTX 1060 in 2024
... isn't that to be considered abuse of the elderly?
Performance is out of this world for an iGPU. But then so is the price...
Nah. Not faster than the gtx970 and it came out in 2014.
@@Al_Lergichow much power does that use?
@@danal8246 148w
@@danal8246 148w
It just doesn't seem impressive to me. It can't beat a decade old mid range GPU.
148W
It just doesn't seem impressive to me. It can't beat a decade old mid range GPU.
Yep, we are there: iGPUs are comparable with popular and still in use medium range dGPUs.
Next step will be targeting the 3060 range. That would be wild.
Strix halo incoming baby!
With the AI name that must have doubled the price and the FPS, add AI and RGB in one box and you've got 4 x the normal FPS.
iGPUs catching up with dGPUs will always be cool, but the sad reality is that game requirements are increasing at a faster pace. So they will always be stuck at 1080p sub 60 FPS.
Strix halo is coming, 4k is probably playable
Some of these feel like the CPU is making a difference, since it's a low power CPU.
The technology to make insanely powerful APUs already exists and we see them in consoles. Thing is, if they do make them (PCs) like that, then no one (majority) would want to build from regular stand alone components.
i aint payin a band for a plastic case and integrated graphics.
GTX 10 Series will remain absolutely legendary...such a price to performance win on launch and even now. I don't see us getting back to this sweet spot unfortunately
dude, The GTX 1060 is a 2016 8y.o. hardware, if anything this comparison shows that there was barely ANY progress with games and hardware, and that overpriced CPUs have anemic iGPUs that while being "The Fastest" still sukk hard
Powerful 'budget' APU is not a real thing. Barely any better than 780m despite having 30% more CUs.
WOW man insane little power! :O
There is a lot of mini itx pc but i love very small and powerfull iGpu monsters
It's strange seeing GTX 1060 at the bottom of the barrel now, being compared to iGPU's. I remember a time when it used to max out games at 1080p along the RX 480. Time to upgrade, indeed.
shockingly good performance
There is plenty of performance left on the table in this PC. The BIOS in these mini PC's has heaps of settings to increase the performance of the iGPU and the CPU especially the power draw of both the CPU and iGPU. ETA prime channel gets way better numbers at similar settings especially when using frame gen.. a lot of the time he doesn't use FSR but does enable frame gen and that alone would have it beating the 1060!! Not by tons but at least 10% and with FSR 3 and frame gen i've seen the 890m wipe the floor with the GTX 1060 and be closer to the 1080ti in most cases! Still this shows iGPUs are getting very strong and making dedicated GPUs less appealing which is a good thing unless you really want to have RTX but that's not a must have it's a nice to have!!
I agree on the power settings side but there are legitimate reasons for people not wanting to use frame gen, and benchmarking should be done purely with the actual capabilities of the gpu because not always will that be available and it gives a grong idea of the performance of the device.
I love watching ETA's videos but for some time now it seems like he is just trying to sell a product rather than just testing
@joey_f4ke238 yes I agree with you that people need to know the raw potential on the chip I also agree that not everyone wants to use frame gen but the AMD FSR 3 and frame gen are actually pretty good and depending on how aggressive the FSR is mainly determines the picture quality. But watching ETA prime at 1440p using only frame gen still looks pretty good 🙂 it's very close to original but obviously not perfect but FSR 3 is good but like all scaling really kills the picture.. frame gen in some games where it wasn't coded in real well ya get some jitter but it's pretty rare based on what I have seen across a few different channels.. but my original point is for people like me that are not concerned about ray tracing and a small fidelity drop doesn't bother me so I'm happy to see great performance in a iGPU because i don't really have tons of $$ and if I can play new games without a extra $200 to $500 cost then I'm taking the 890m with AMDs FSR 3 and frame gen technology 🙂
great video! thank you :)
As a previous SFF builder I love these mini PCs and that performance is impressive especially for 50w. Bit of a shame about the plastic case though, I'd like a nice Aluminium case at that price.
Man, iGpus have really come a long way 😃
I really love the idea of having a mini PC that will run games among other things... but they will at least need to run on console-like chips with console-like prices to be considered. Without an iGPU on par to what's in PS5 Pro it is a waste of 1100$+
Smol doggo cameos :)
I'd love to get one of these. They're perfect for work and programming
I feel as though the rising popularity in recent years of PC handhelds and integrated graphics has really helped cards like the GTX 1060 remain relevant all this time later. While you can’t jamb a 1060 into your Steam Deck, the reality of games running well enough on mobile hardware to enjoy AND people opting in larger enough numbers to play that way keep these oldies but goodies from being e-waste. I still have an i7-3770, GTX 1060 6GB for emulation and older/lighter PC gaming at 1080p, and I am often pleasantly surprised at how well it fares in even more modern titles. It’s like my PC version of a Series S or something. (My main rig is a 12700K paired with a RTX 3080 12GB, and boy does it generate HEAT in the summer time … so my “Series S” is a perfect PC for getting my fix when I don’t need the sauna.
The 10 series GPUs were god tier cards. I think we will be comparing newer cards and igpus to the 10 series cards for a long time.
It's amazing that integrated graphics have come this far!
It's a shame that in order to get to that level you have to spend quite a bit of money compared to a conventional CPU + dGPU solution.
However, for those that don't need the best iGPU out there there are quite a few very capable Ryzen powered mini PCs in the $300-400 range that will easily handle everyday tasks and decent gaming.
Upscaleing in Stalker 2 makes sense looking at the minimum requirements that call for a 1060 6GB/RX 580 8GB/Arc A750 for 1080p Low 30FPS useing TSR and comparable technologies.
Hyped for battlemage? looking forward to you covering them.
Buy a Cpu and you get a free 1060. Amazing
For the price you aren't getting anything free
Amazing performance for 50 watts
Yeah very efficient
The performance of super tiny PCs got crazy over the last 4 years
the gtx 1060 was a damn good card when it came out
When the cost comes down on this form factor it will become more desirable. Currently even at the discounted price there are higher/better performing laptops that have the added incentive of a screen. This would have been ideal for our children but I admit having built them both RX 7800xt desktop pcs with 1440p capable monitors for less than the price of the Minisform, they will get far more mileage out of their desktop pcs and have the ability to upgrade easily.
Very nice micro pc with the major issue being at the price , you have no room for upgrades.
The VRAM usage according to Rivatuner is very low for some games (principally Red Dead Redemption 2). Did you increase the amount of dedicated iGPU VRAM in the BIOS? Some games are fine with requesting/allocating more for VRAM, but some titles don't play nicely with that and really need you to specify it manually. I don't use this chip specifically (I have the V3 Tablet with the 780M), but I specifically allocated 8GB to mine.
those are some impressive results from both GPUs.
On the one side we have an iGPU capable of running modern titles at decent framerates.
On the other side the 8 year old 1060 is still going strong after all the time.
Yeah good point both capable in their own way
The GTX-1060 was basically an RX-580/480 competitor, and the RX-570/470 was a bit slower than the RX-580/480...so, is it fair to say that the 890m is roughly an RX-570 in performance?
Roughly yes. Slower in older games, dame or a bit better in newer ones
I remember when 680M catch up with gtx 1050 desktop, then later 780M say hi to gtx 1050ti.
Now 890M is tickling gtx 1060. Haha..
Next, presumably, Strix Halo will show its fists to RTX 4060 ?
And also Intel iGPU is getting stronger; next year would be interesting.
The trouble with this model in particular is the "AI Tax"
Because the number of RDNA CUs this iGPU has, is killer for its' form factor!
I'm happy you're getting paid to do this... But I'm getting tired of these mini things
Not paid just sent the unit. I’m going to cut down on mini pc content next year :)
@@RandomGaminginHD oh ok cool. Thanks for responding.
Who cares, he’s testing the igpu
Im seeing a lot of comments underwhelmed with the performance, am I the only one impressed?
Any chance you could do some more tests in future power limiting the 890m to 10, 15 or 28w? Gives good points of comparison for people interested in lower power performance in handhelds.
Yeah I might include that next time :)
iGPUs sure have come a long way, but the 1060 can still be viable for older titles. Sure as heck not paying that much money for a Mini PC, however!
How much VRAM was allocated to the 890M, was it dynamic or did you set it to 6GB to equal the 1060?
Do you keep all this stuff you get for your videos, or sell it on? All this stuff can be expensive.
An einer GTX 960/970 kommt die iGPU eher ran als an der 1060. Warte noch ein paar Jahre bis eine iGPU an einer 2060 ran kommt.
People say iGPUs advanced a great deal to compare to mid-range cards.
I say, dGPU evolution is in great stagnation. Discrete cards shamble forward like a boomer drunkard after a bottle or two, while integrated cards sprint the same way discretes used to in the 2000s.
Really good for 50-60 watts.
More video of the dog imo
The 890M is just a bit faster than the 780M, both averaging 15-20% slower than a 1060. Interesting to see it ahead in a couple titles. A 780M system is less than half these HX 370 units though, so it's a tough sell here.
You can skip the AI for the AMD names
G'day Random,
Yeah I also don't get why the Laptop GPUs are now called AI*, especially when the the Desktop version of the same architecture is NOT AI* 8*00G but still uses R* 8*00G
I love your "Current APU vs DGPU Performance Comparisons" to see how they are advancing. Seeing how good the 890M performs against the GTX1060 6GB it makes me sad thinking how Awesome R3 2200G/3200G & R5 2400G/3400G were & why can't have a R3 9400G 4c/4t 880M + R5 9400G 4c/8t 890M at about £100-£120 & £150-£170 as an entry to AM5.
When you are gaming for fun on a tight budget why pay for Cores & Threads when you do not need all that CPU performance.
The gtx 1060 is literally the minimum requirements for VR, what the freak
Cute dog
Considering GTX1060 is a mid range card from 8 years ago, I would say that I expected the best iGPU in the market to be better. Would love if there was APU with the power of R5 7600 and RTX 3050 6GB. Don't think I am asking much.
I wonder what the difference would be with higher settings in these games.
I'm actually surprised how good the frame timings are. You probably barely had any input lag most of the time.
I have to admit, i don't really see the appeal of this Mini Pc's. I'd either buy/build a full size or sff PC with the ability to add a GPU easily or i'd buy a laptop with a dedicated GPU for less money than this. These mini pc's seem like they have the disadvantages of both and the advantages of neither.
do you get to keep this kinda stuff or do you need return it
You should test out the nab9, its 500 bucks no igpu but i am curious how it performs.
Did you try to hook up 1060 to minisforum as egpu via usb4?
So... I can hang on to the 1060 6Gb I'm using RIGHT NOW to write this comment with for a bit longer then👍
Over $1k for 2015 performance? Not exactly stellar for modern PC gaming. Too expensive for an emulation station. I think I'll hold on to my money.
Good performance from iGPU, but for that money, it's not worth it by any means...
50w max sounds quite amazing! Can you run an external GPU on this..
Was it on purpose to say the price in hundreds and not thousands. Guess It doesn't as much if you say it as ten hundred.. than the other..
Something I noticed. Good video though!
If you talk about only iGPU power, then 50W isn't impressive. It's literally the same as a GTX 1650 Laptop GPU.
what's the max vram you can share on those igpu?
can you test it on Unreal Engine (The Matrix open world) ?
I hope the successor of this will have PCIe5, so we have desireable APU for desktop in 2026.
I kinda expected more from 16 CUs of RDNA3+
That’s scary
Why I dumped my 1070 machine at the beginning of the year. Served me right for 3 years though
1060 is less than 100$
So you could 100% play 1st gen PCVR on a iGPU at this point. And on 50W.
U should use the same cpu for fair comparison
The Ryzen AI 9 is really a bad name, but AMD has never been good at naming their stuff in general. At least their hardware is good still lol
Can the beat the 890M iGPU GTX1060
Very expensive, way too much
Will we see these in handhelds soon?
Pathetic pricing ,better get a 8845hs laptop with a 4050 at that point that far outclasses this
A thousand dollars for no dedicated graphics. Nice
That was a disappointing show by the 890M.
Would you please do an emulation test ? ps3 ? would be VERY interesting to see
its not "The Fastest" its "the least sukking" from all crap iGPUs that exist these days
I hooe amd makes a desktop apu with 8 cores and 16cus that thing will be faster than this mini pc
Still not even close to old budget cards. These IGP CPU/GPU are a waste of money imo unless you get one of these miniforum PC's for $200 or less and just have daily standard use.