TURNING POINT 2 WAS INSANE!! - Mushoku Tensei Episode 21 REACTION + REVIEW!

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  • @TGLReacts
    @TGLReacts  Місяць тому +25

    Alright...this might've been the best episode of the season🔥 We're weeks ahead with Season 2 over on Patreon.com/TGLReacts with our full uncut reactions!

  • @dreamybullx1
    @dreamybullx1 Місяць тому +158

    Apparently the fireball Rudeus used was him imagining the strongest attack he could think of, so he just thought of a nuke

    • @Loooooong0
      @Loooooong0 Місяць тому +59

      Yeah, here’s the light novel passage:
      I ignored the window and focused on launching the fiercest fire attack against him that I could manage. What I pictured in my mind was an enormous flame. A mushroom cloud. A nuclear explosion. I channeled my magic as simply and straightforwardly as possible, as if powering up for a punch. I didn’t even think about the fact that Eris and Ruijerd might be caught up in it. I’d already lost the ability to think.
      (The window is referring to Orsted’s wyrmgate, in case you’re confused)

    • @vorcent_jax
      @vorcent_jax Місяць тому +1

      Why orsted using that kind of mirror at 11:28? Because rudeus use his flame nuke later

    • @Sylvastier
      @Sylvastier Місяць тому +6

      ​@@vorcent_jaxKeeping the other two alive since their fates are important to his distant goals. He could easily tank it himself but Rudy was focused entirely on killing him while rudy thought he was already about to die.

    • @Sideman-lf3ll
      @Sideman-lf3ll Місяць тому +3

      ​@Sylvastier no it was cause orsted was testing using 2 spells at the same time. Remember that he said that it was more difficult than he thought

    • @benjaminsimpson6254
      @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

      ​@@Sideman-lf3ll exactly, he likes testing and watching things he isn't familiar with.

  • @InstanRamen
    @InstanRamen Місяць тому +127

    Seventh Great Power
    1. Technique God
    2. Dragon God (Orsted)
    - Dragon Emperor
    - Dragon King (Perugius) "eps 6"
    3. Fighting God
    4. Demon God (Laplace) "eps 6"
    - Demon Emperor (Kishirika Kishirisu) "eps 12"
    - Demon King
    5. Death God
    6. Sword God (Gal Farion) "eps 8"
    - Sword Emperor
    - Sword King (Ghislaine) "eps 5"
    - Sword Saint
    7. North God (Kalman) "eps 18"
    - North Emperor
    - North King
    - North Saint (Gallus Cleaner) "eps 14"
    ---------------------------------
    Rank System (only work for Swordman and Mage)
    1. Beginner (Basic stuff)
    2. Intermediate (Most people have)
    3. Advanced
    - Paul on his 3 Sword Style
    - Eris on her Sword God Style
    4. Saint
    - Rudeus *_SAINT_* Class Water Mage
    - Gallus Cleaners *_NORTH SAINT_*
    5. King
    - Roxy *_KING_* Class Water Mage
    - Ghislaine *_SWORD KING_*
    6. Emperor
    7. God
    - Water God
    - North God
    - Sword God
    Status on Race
    - Demon God (Laplace)
    - Demon Emperor (Kishirika Kishirisu)
    - Demon King
    - Dragon God (Orsted)
    - Dragon Emperor
    - Dragon King (Perugius)
    --------------------------------------
    Sword Style
    1. *_SWORD_* God Style
    The most Aggressive one they moving alot, doing sneaky attack basically told you to attack first and kill before being killed. So you have to make a move first. Their Favorite attack is Sword of Light basically they will jump straight to the enemy and cut them in half in one strike. Normally they do this when the enemy not ready or when they doing sneaky attack. They relying on their fast, most of them choose to using a thin cloth or less cloth type outfit just like Ghislaine "Even on Winter".
    What they do :
    - Aggressive Attack
    - sneaky Attack
    - immediate Attack
    - Straight jump Attack
    User :
    - Eris (Advanced)
    - Paul (Advanced)
    - Ghislaine Sword King
    2. *_NORTH_* God Style
    They literally use Anything to support their fight, some of them using like Overpower Armor or Sword basically Pay to Win. But it doesn't mean they can't fight, they quite good using unique technique, Unique Sword and adaptive to literally any unique equipment. I've just said that they using anything, beside using unique equipment they using cheap and dirty tricks. Not only that they also have Sword Throwing Technique and Dual Wielding technique.
    What they do :
    - Using Hostages
    - Using Poison
    - Throwing Sword
    - Distraction after they give Distraction they will Attack you
    User :
    - Paul
    - North Saint Gallus Cleaner,
    - North God "Kalman"
    - Orsted
    3. *_WATER_* God Style
    Basically Defensive type Sword Style, they literally only Standing on their Stances wait for an Attack or Standing on their Stances while Deflecting, Blocking all the Attack. They're not allowed to attack or attack first, the only chance for them to attack is Counter Attack. Because of Defensive their Sword Style most of them work as a Guard.
    What they do :
    - Blocking, Deflecting, Anticipating all Attack
    - they also can use heavy armor because they not moving alot like the other Sword Style.
    - Standing on their Stances, wait for an attack basically it's like domain expansion they will wait someone until reach their Attack Area.
    User :
    - Paul
    - Orsted
    - Water God ( still Unknown)
    In this Fight
    - Orsted just Straight Jump Attack Rudy and about to kill him in one strike using Sword God Style
    - Orsted standing on his Stances, Blocking, Deflecting, and when he got chance to Counter Attack Ruijerd. Its Water God Style
    - Eris Straight Attack Orsted, its Sword God Style
    - Orsted Block her Attack and immediately Counter Attack by punching her to the wall. It's Water God Style.
    - He block Rudeus Magic using his Hand, it's Water God Style. He literally using his Hand like it's a Sword.

    • @JO_1306
      @JO_1306 Місяць тому

      Laplace is the technique god also

    • @MysticLuka
      @MysticLuka Місяць тому +1

      Sword god style isn't sneaky at all, they're in your face aggressive. North god style is sneaky because they're all about using tools and tricks and the environment.

    • @InstanRamen
      @InstanRamen Місяць тому +1

      It's spoiler stuff dude 😂 ​@@JO_1306

    • @InstanRamen
      @InstanRamen Місяць тому

      Nah they're quite sneaky though, they will attack you when you're not even notice their appearance. Of course they not always do that, but everytime they got chance to attack before the enemy notice them they will charge with Sword of Light, Like what Eris did on the OVA.
      But I think the word sneaky it's not right, but it's kinda like that they will attack you when you not ready. 😶👍

    • @JO_1306
      @JO_1306 Місяць тому

      @@InstanRamen sorry I just threw out a random comment from what I remembered from the novel xd

  • @Ryan-nu4sl
    @Ryan-nu4sl Місяць тому +69

    Non-spoiler fight details: Orsted crushed Rudy's lungs with his first attack- standard battle tactic for fighting mages that usually have to speak to cast spells. Also, Rudeus's purple fire spell was supposed to be the equivalent of a small nuke. It likely would've killed everyone had Orsted not absorbed it. He didn't know he was doing it, he was just putting his entire mana reserve into the spell while picturing a nuclear explosion.

  • @panzlithium
    @panzlithium Місяць тому +17

    >Dragon God enters
    >Punched a hole through chest
    >God level heals
    >Refuses to explain
    >Leaves

  • @testaccrun4830
    @testaccrun4830 Місяць тому +63

    18:38 paul blame rudeus for not looking for information about the teleportation incident, now rudeus asked about the teleportation and almost died
    so its all going around back to paul lol
    jokeaside yeah he owes an apology

  • @beige_projection
    @beige_projection Місяць тому +51

    Btw Rudy can't use incantation-less healing because incantation less magic requires a lot of imagination. He doesn't know the medical technicalities of healing so he can't imagine it. In his inner monologue in the light novel, he said that maybe if he was a doctor in his past life, he would be able to use incantation-less healing in this world.

    • @Jackex
      @Jackex Місяць тому +2

      I thought it required more empathy, which is something he struggles with.

    • @cloudd4062
      @cloudd4062 Місяць тому +1

      @@Jackex There is no definitive answer it's all speculation from both the audience and the characters.

    • @neretilderem7029
      @neretilderem7029 Місяць тому +1

      If it's written in the novel then that's strange, because a certain someone will use incatationless healing and i don't think "they" know a single thing about medical technicalities or anatomy. So this sounds like the weakest theory

    • @maspaijo5987
      @maspaijo5987 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@neretilderem7029 it called talent, some people easy to master it and some people need to work hard

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Місяць тому +3

      @@neretilderem7029 It is written in the novel. and yeah that's Rudeus' theory on why he can't use incantation-less healing.

  • @ryanrrr42
    @ryanrrr42 Місяць тому +16

    but Rudy did have a reason to confront him. In his eyes, he saw how scared Ruijerd and Eris were, but since Orsted's curse doesn't affect him, he wasn't scared. As someone who he thought was more level-headed in that situation, he thought he would ease their fear by being friendly and showing that they were simply curious.

  • @ramuki9427
    @ramuki9427 Місяць тому +19

    This episode adapted that chapter masterfully IMO, really captured that "WTF" moment I experienced when reading the LN. Frontloading the Orsted reveal only to then flash back a few days primes the audience to expect something to go wrong, so it is almost as if we are also affected by Orsted's curse of fear when we first meet him. Also, the decision to have Ruijerd use the same technique against Orsted that he used in his sparring session with Eris earlier on to illustrate how outclassed Dead End is in this situation? *Chef's kiss*
    I think the anime does a bad job at showing why Rudeus acted so trusting with Orsted, mainly due to two aspects: The addition of the bull jumping down the cliff (this did not happen in the LN) and by how the conversation is going in the anime.
    It is hard to emphasize how polite Orsted is being while talking to the party in this chapter in the LN. He's almost talking to Ruijerd as if he is meeting an old friend and shows no signs of aggression towards them. Even after Rudeus asks him questions, he is very cordial with them and only gets suspicious once he realises that Rudeus is Pauls son that in his mind should not exist (whatever this means). So in my opinion, Rudeus is not really acting out of character or being dumb in this situation.
    The Rudeus/Orsted dynamic is really spicy just from this one episode honestly, with Rudeus being probably the only person in this world capable of emphasizing with Orsted, even after the guy punched a hole into his chest...

    • @-Garaf-
      @-Garaf- Місяць тому +1

      The other mayor reason why he began to distrust Rudeous, right before he asked if he knows of Hitogami (Man-god) is how he called the disaster. He said Mana-disaster (which he learned from Hitogami), while normal people only know it as teleportation incident.

  • @DutchDread
    @DutchDread Місяць тому +2

    One of the best introductions of a villain, or antagonist, or whatever Orsted will end up being, that I've ever seen.

    • @Eshury
      @Eshury 6 днів тому

      He will be anything but a villain.
      Infact, cupid suits him better 😂

  • @Tounushi
    @Tounushi Місяць тому +4

    You will learn to fear the words "Turning Point" in an episode title.
    2:45 "I don't think we can fight one yet." One? Have you ever played Morrowind, by any chance? Red Wyrms swarm like Cliffracers.
    4:10 classic Rudeus. These "Goddammit, Rudy!" moments are always good comedy.
    At one point The Fangs of the Black Wolf (Paul's party) had to run for their lives to flee from a Red Wyrm when they got too close to their territory. One of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" sorts of things. A Red Wyrm's materials can fetch a lot of money.
    8:50 Orsted actually went easy on Ruijerd. He just wanted him out of the way. But the scare is effective.
    9:15 "He doesn't know what to protect" is indeed the case. He saw four simultaneous futures: his head getting popped, his throat getting crushed, his heart being pierced, and his lungs ruptured.
    10:20 Technique God, Dragon God, Fighting God, Demon God, Death God, Sword God, North God.
    11:40 that is plasma. Dense, superhot plasma. He intends to nuke the mountainside.
    This is indeed one of the top episodes of the first season, if not the series so far. Orsted just comes out of nowhere, nukes the party, heals Rudeus, then leaves while refusing to elaborate.

  • @macmac6064
    @macmac6064 Місяць тому +10

    now you understand why rudeus is like that in the ed

  • @Jackex
    @Jackex Місяць тому +4

    I want to point out to the guys a few things that helps.
    First off this is probably the first time Eris has ever felt so helpless. Calling out to anybody she knew in her life that has protected her was heart breaking. Even though she is a great warrior and swordsman, even Rudeus with his eye can beat her. With magic he is so much stronger than her as well, all of this with him being younger than her. Just helping understand her state of mind.

  • @neretilderem7029
    @neretilderem7029 Місяць тому +20

    Funny how they spell out that the girl isn't scared of Orsted and how the curse doesn't work on people from another world, but they don't put the two together :D

    • @Loooooong0
      @Loooooong0 Місяць тому

      It’s probably because of the shock.

  • @dreamybullx1
    @dreamybullx1 Місяць тому +3

    THIS IS WHAT WEVE BEEN WAITING FOR 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @beige_projection
    @beige_projection Місяць тому +12

    Yeah Rudy's weakness is prolly that he can't read the room well enough. That prolly stems from him being a shut-in in his previous life. We saw the effect of that when he first met Paul again. He didn't read the room well in the bar and continued to tell his story in a happy way. But yeah, like the others said, he was trying to obtain information since he and Paul had that misunderstanding due to him not looking for information hard enough. I think this time he activated his gamer brain and tried to acquire as much information as possible with people he meets. Problem is there's no save scumming in this life.

    • @ramuki9427
      @ramuki9427 Місяць тому +11

      I actually disagree with this, Rudeus is always reading the room to not offend anybody to the point that people around him are weirded out by how cautious he behaves around others. I think a few different factors were responsible for why Rudeus acted the way he did while meeting Orsted:
      1) Not being affected by Orsted's curse is a big one. The bull running off the cliff is an addition the anime made, so just Rudeus and Eris tensing up is not much of an indicator for the danger that they are facing in the moment.
      2) Might not have come across as well in the anime, but during the encounter, Orsted was extremely polite while talking to the party, to the point that Rudeus even thought that he might be an old friend of Ruijerd with how familiar he acted with him. Same thing when Rudeus asked him questions, Orsted was generally very cordial until Rudeus let his connection with Hitogami slip.
      And lastly, as you mentioned, Rudeus was sort of on a high after managing to find Lilia and Aisha, so he was really trying hard to gather more information about the Mana Disaster, leading to him revealing too much to a very dangerous person.

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi Місяць тому +7

      He also has established precedent in opening a dialogue with someone everyone fears: Ruijerd.
      But he also felt the same about Orsted as he feels whenever he's with the Man-God, so he thought he must know something.

    • @SergioBonilla1
      @SergioBonilla1 Місяць тому

      Having read the LNs, without spoiling anything: Rudeus is just an idiot. He’s basically gotten through life because he has a high mana pool that Orsted mentions in this episode, and having some knowledge of fantasy stories from his previous life that spurred him to learn magic at a younger than normal age. The rest is just following the Man-God instructions.

    • @nikm3r
      @nikm3r Місяць тому

      @@ramuki9427 So, if people are weirded out by his behaviour ... he's not reading the room well ...

    • @beige_projection
      @beige_projection Місяць тому

      @@ramuki9427 Trying is not the same as being good at it. He tries to read the room, be polite. But he's clearly not good at it.

  • @brendansmk
    @brendansmk Місяць тому +3

    One of the Goated Mushoku Episodes❤

  • @samjosuedesire6526
    @samjosuedesire6526 Місяць тому +9

    I saw a banana this episode

  • @kikikim4589
    @kikikim4589 Місяць тому

    Let's goooooo I was waiting for this , this episode changed everything

  • @benjaminsimpson6254
    @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

    We know the eye of foresight sees a future with 5s ahead he saw 3 eris. Now imagine 1s ahdad but orsted is so fast and powerful rudy actually saw so many ways he could have attacked. Rudy had no idea which one was gonna happen

  • @Braiam
    @Braiam Місяць тому +2

    There are schools of martial/magic arts, like North, Water, Sword god styles and Water, Fire, Wind magic. Then there are levels within each of these schools. The top of the school is called God. So, the top of the Sword god style, is the Sword god. That's because the guy that created the style had the title of sword god. Dragon God, Technique god, etc. are titles. If the Technique god creates a martial style, it would be called Technique God school. It seems complex, but it makes sense if you think about schools like business: you can be President of a company, President of a nation, and have the people call you "The President of parties".

  • @baronbrummbar8691
    @baronbrummbar8691 Місяць тому +3

    turning point 4 is the goat
    it will be in S3
    it will make this look tame and like childs play
    .--
    ther are 5 in total

    • @Player01163
      @Player01163 Місяць тому

      You know it’s kinda funny that whenever a turning point episode comes out or a deep emotional moment happens in MT we the LN readers always say “Just you wait till turning point 4”

    • @baronbrummbar8691
      @baronbrummbar8691 Місяць тому

      @@Player01163 well all the turning points are emotional and super story relevant
      ....
      turning point 4 is by far the deepest though
      i literally cried reading it

    • @malignedloon1603
      @malignedloon1603 Місяць тому

      @@baronbrummbar8691 fr tho, turning point 4 hit me different than the other turning points. Reading that damn 'book' made me sick.

  • @sixstring68
    @sixstring68 Місяць тому +2

    One of my favourite episodes. Orsted is so badass.

  • @IceaBeast
    @IceaBeast Місяць тому

    Sooooo the thing he fired at Orsted at the end is basicly the closest thing to a nuke in this world. its so much condensed flame and heat (you can see the ice in the surrounding melting) that basicly no one else except Orsted could have taken the hit like this.

  • @Savldj
    @Savldj Місяць тому +2

    Orsted really is the goat

  • @jeffnaval4894
    @jeffnaval4894 Місяць тому

    Obmh thats rudeus goal. He trained so many years to defeat that god.

  • @benjaminsimpson6254
    @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

    Fum fact about this figbt, while orsted fought rujierd he was always looking over his shoulder and staring at rudy, ye orsted is just a monster

  • @macready84
    @macready84 Місяць тому

    peak has been achieved

  • @Sujal-j5o
    @Sujal-j5o Місяць тому

    the moment i got the notification of this video..
    My mind - Kira laugh fr😂😂

  • @ComradeArthur
    @ComradeArthur Місяць тому +3

    18:43
    Rudeus should have read the room.
    After 20 years, hiding in his bedroom, his social skills are atrophied.
    20:45
    Rudy's magic on a par with LaPlace.
    No. Orsted said his *mana reserves* are on a par with LaPlace. Rudy walks around with a giant gas tank of mana.
    He still learning magic and hasn't learned much recently.

  • @im7254
    @im7254 Місяць тому

    welcome to the addiction

  • @duncanvdluyt6334
    @duncanvdluyt6334 Місяць тому +2

    Will you do OVA reactions to it's cannon I did hear you talk about it

    • @TGLReacts
      @TGLReacts  Місяць тому +1

      We might combine ep 24 and ep 0 into 1 video since they seemed more important than we expected lol

  • @peternash7104
    @peternash7104 Місяць тому

    I see it as the opposite how most react even when I first saw it. Most people say it was a mistake. I see it as a pure benefit. Rudeus didn't lose anything and only gained knowledge and introduced himself. Had this encounter happened later in life it's highly likely Rudeus would've been taken more seriously as a threat and he would've been instant killed instead of left to die slowly, Orsted would've made sure that a magic user of that caliber is dead.

  • @梓誠
    @梓誠 Місяць тому

    Imo Orsted is kinda a wiki/google for Rudy that time,he trying to get as much answer as possible

  • @benjaminsimpson6254
    @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

    Look up the temperature of a purple fire, ye thats a nuke

  • @Nutrino259
    @Nutrino259 Місяць тому +1

    Mind goes 🤯🤯till turning point 5!!!!

  • @こじこじぃ
    @こじこじぃ Місяць тому +3

    待ってました!!

  • @Celestial-rn4vm
    @Celestial-rn4vm Місяць тому

    It seems you're missing some semi-important context about the show, which can be confusing-especially because Mushoku Tensei frequently uses the term "God" in different ways.
    First, there are the Seven Great Powers: the Technique God, Dragon God, Fighting God, Demon God, Death God, Sword God, and North God. Despite their titles, these individuals are not actual gods-they’re simply incredibly powerful beings.
    Second, there’s the Sword God Style, which is just a school of swordsmanship. There are three main sword styles: the Sword God Style, the Water God Style, and the North God Style. In both swordsmanship and magic, the highest rank a practitioner can achieve is called God Rank. This means that many individuals can hold the title of "God" without actually being divine or godlike.
    It’s important to note that the "God" in the titles like Technique God or Dragon God is unrelated to the God Rank in swordsmanship or magic. For example, even if someone reaches the God Rank in the Sword God Style, Water God Style, or North God Style, they are still far weaker than one of the Seven Great Powers.
    However, an exceptional God-ranked swordsman might become so skilled that they could rise to the level of the Seven Great Powers. For example, the 7th and 6th ranks of the Seven Great Powers are merely swordsmen of the God Rank, though the 6th rank greatly surpasses a basic God-ranked swordsman.
    Lastly, titles like Demon King or Demon Emperor refer to positions within the demon hierarchy and have no connection to rankings in swordsmanship or magic.

    • @sankro
      @sankro Місяць тому

      There's also the use of "God" in the names of languages like "Beast-God", "Demon-God" and "Fighting-God" which obviously has nothing to do with the power rankings or divine beings. So there's definitely no shortage of the term "God" with wildly different meanings in MT.

  • @benjaminsimpson6254
    @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

    And yes, they are wyverns but it is litterly said in the books humans just call them dragisn because they fky and are dangerous, hukans just are bad at naming things

  • @Crystalhair2024
    @Crystalhair2024 Місяць тому

    Can you guys react to Wistoria ? You'll love it

  • @ravenfall9477
    @ravenfall9477 Місяць тому

    LETSFUCKINGGOO

  • @potrosl
    @potrosl Місяць тому

    Nanahoshi's VA is the same as Momo from Dan Da Dan.

  • @Abell38v
    @Abell38v 29 днів тому

    hell nah ruijerd isnt emperror
    when *someone* king lvl in sword god style killed enemie
    ruijerd didnt notice that the enemie have gotten kut in half already it took him more than a few seconds so he is saint lvl at best

  • @taajik7514
    @taajik7514 Місяць тому

    Why no dandadan

  • @benjaminsimpson6254
    @benjaminsimpson6254 Місяць тому

    Ome tbing you learn event the rank names mean nothing, paul is advanced, he has a ton of expose, he can beat a saint if they onlt trained in a training hall.
    Its just what they can do, not who can win. Ive loved reading all the books

  • @samjosuedesire6526
    @samjosuedesire6526 Місяць тому

    1 min and 3 comment.
    We will be waiting for the others, if they happen.

  • @maxman12372
    @maxman12372 Місяць тому

    🎉

  • @redshadow8248
    @redshadow8248 Місяць тому +1

    👌👍🔥

  • @PredatoryQQmber
    @PredatoryQQmber Місяць тому

    5:10 So far show was going well with show-don't-tell rule but this dialogue is so forced.

  • @testaccrun4830
    @testaccrun4830 Місяць тому +1

    where's the can opening

    • @TGLReacts
      @TGLReacts  Місяць тому

      That's a One Piece/Bleach exclusive lol

  • @sarakuevos
    @sarakuevos Місяць тому

    Naah, Orsted is the strongest